A new type of lunar robots is being designed which could help prepare locations on the Moon for human outposts and landing pads. With supervised autonomy, small robots the size of riding mowers and weighing 300 kg or less could prepare a site in about 6 months, says a new study by Astrobotic Technology Inc. in cooperation with Carnegie Mellon University’s Robotics Institute.
Anyone else having visions of Wall-E on the Moon?
Using small robots would offer an alternative to bringing large loaders to the Moon, as Caterpillar, Inc. has proposed, and is working on details with NASA of using a big skid steer loader on the Moon (see previous UT article, “Heavy Construction on the Moon.”)
“NASA faces a challenge in planning the layout for its outpost, which is expected to begin operations in 2020,” said William “Red” Whittaker, chairman and chief technical officer of Astrobotic and a Carnegie Mellon professor of robotics. “For efficient cargo transfer, the landing site needs to be close to the outpost’s crew quarters and laboratories. Each rocket landing and takeoff, however, will accelerate lunar grit outwards from the pad. With no atmosphere to slow it down, the dry soil would sandblast the outpost.”
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The research examined two potential solutions: 1) construction of a berm around the landing site, and 2) creation of a hard-surface landing pad using indigenous materials.
In the first solution, researchers found that two rovers weighing 330 pounds each would take less than six months to build a berm around a landing site to block the sandblasting effect. A berm 8.5 feet tall in a 160-foot semi-circle would require moving 2.6 million pounds of lunar dirt. Robots this size can be sent to NASA’s planned polar outpost site in advance of human expeditions. Astrobotic Technology Inc. has proposed that landing site preparation be provided by commercial ventures.
In the second solution, researchers showed how small robots could comb the lunar soil for rocks, gathering them to pave a durable grit-free landing pad, said John Kohut, Astrobotic’s chief executive officer. “This might reduce the need to build protective berms. To discern the best approach, early robotic scouting missions need to gather on-site information about the soil’s cohesion levels and whether rocks and gravel of the right size can be found at the site.”
Whittaker is directing the development of Astrobotic’s first lunar robot, which is vying to win the $20 million Google Lunar X-PRIZE by visiting the Apollo 11 landing site and transmitting high-definition video to Earth. They are looking to launch in December 2010. The robot has been undergoing field trials for several months.
Details of the study are available at www.astrobotictech.com.
40 Replies to “Robots Could Prepare Moon Outpost Site”
Until the robots decide they are much more efficient at colonizing space than any organic bag of water and destroy all astronaut-laden ships approacing from Earth.
Why not clear away most of the lunar dirt and soil, then use the lunar equivalent of a leaf blower to clear away the rest? You will need to clear away an area around the lunar settlement anyway, to mitigate the problems with lunar dust getting into everything and dangerously jamming up the works. Once the dust has been blown away, it won’t ever blow back, so you’d be shot of it for good.
How close is that robot going to get to the Apollo 11 landing site and what are the guarantees that it won’t disturb anything there?
Without a doubt, Apollo 11 is THE most historic site on the Moon and should be treated as such.
This ain’t the Titanic, folks. Look how often that supposedly memorial site has been plundered.
Actually the dust could come back, since they get statically charged because of the direct sunlight they tend to float and drop back when the sun gets down. I don’t know if they would move acros the field.
huygens, the new ladings are at the pole, that is pretty far away from the Apollo 11 lander.
I think using robots to do the prep work could really accelerate our return to the moon since we can start building a lunar base… well, right now!
Knock together a few machines and lets clear some room in the launch schedule.
If I had a vote, it would be for the berm making machines.
We know there’s enough dust, and we might end up using that dust to bury some of our other infrastructure for radiation protection.
Ramming a big pile of dirt into position also sounds considerably easier than trying to mull through it looking for paving stones.
I second stay away from the apollo 11 site. Maybe use apollo 12 site or something. But wait – why build a birm when you just land inside a shallow crater and build a ramp to get to the edge?
There is a serious issue, meteors, size of a BB or apple seeds that hits the Earths’ atmosphere often and seen as a nice meteor.
There is no atmosphere on the Moon and such ‘small’ meteors will eventully hit all areas of the Moons’ surface-I’m not talking about a meteor about the size of a chicken egg that will light up the Earths’ night sky as a ‘run of the mill’ Bolide’!!! Should H2O be found or created from chemistry process on the Moon, and human try to colonize it, i’d advise a ‘hardened’ roof!!!. I hope these ‘robots” don’t get conked out by a ‘apple seed sized’ meteor!!. On Mars, there is some type of ‘breaking’ atmosphere, so the little ones there are having a great time!!
I am up for the job, and EVE is on her way as well!
dear tacitus said:
“then use the lunar equivalent of a leaf blower to clear away”
Same here! I do wonder wheather we are able to split up any abundant deposits on the moon to easily generate or extract any gasiform substance, thus to blow away moondust despite the lunar vaccum! If there would be a way to more or less easily generate any gas from the the rocks and materials in situ, then there would be the possibility to sweep away annoying lunar dust with a sort of leaf blower.
Launching habitat modules to the lunar surface that can be assembled by remote control and shielded with lunar soil from cosmic radiation and micrometeorites by remote control is exactly the way a lunar base should be set up.
It would dramatically reduce cost if astronauts could remain at a lunar facility for several months and possibly even a few years instead of sending them back and forth for only a few weeks of exploration.
I imagine that the levitating dust would move across the field as well. If static repulsion is responsible for the floating, then any charged particles floating on the edge of the area that we clear out will feel a repulsive effect in towards the empty area. The only reason that you don’t really see dust moving across the field now is because it’s surrounded on all sides by more dust.
I guess it might be possible to clear out the dust and THEN build a berm to keep it out, but I don’t even know that what would be beneath the dust would be any better, and it is possible that machines/people walking around on the underlying rock would just break the rock down and generate more dust.
Bill L.-When you said the machines/people walking around after clearing the dust would break down the underlying rock is correct, the
entire surface of the Moon is hit by bb sized meteors, there’s way too much dust to be explained by other process, micrometerites may be a misnomer, but this interpretation can mean different things to different people.
That underlying rock for the next few inches or much more can be quite fragile due to the mini-meteor strikes all over many times. After so much time wasted trying to clear ever present dust on the ‘vacuumed’ portions so many times and, the ever present dangers of static-electricity with the dust means every electical/mechanical device/contraption will have to be ‘hardened’ against static electricity and may mean the final solution will be to lay down a large ‘cover’ of which I am not capable/knowledgeable of describing.
They could build some “Lunar Soil Magnetic Collectors”
Alternatively blow it away with the opposite charge
What about fusing the surface with hydrogen bombs or a reflector that will use sunlight to melt the surface into a sheet of glass?
Now, I like science and reading about it ( coming to this site almost everyday ) but reading the article made me think of a few things. I would be a great achievement to be able to land on the moon and in a way kinda terraform it. But what would come after we colonize the moon? I know for sure I’d never be able to offord a nice trip to that white rock and neither would alot of people, or our grandkids even ( maybe if they win Lotto 649 but I doubt it ). Only a select few would have that authority or money…..*cough*…government…*cough*.. to be able to access it, and they’d be able to use it for whatever they want, not like I’m saying if this world somehow, got so messed up to the point where a few important people used to the moon as a check point to leave every one behind for lets say mars. And on top of that if it did get to the point where the whole moon was colonized to the point that the Earth is today, what do you think you would see when you or your future generations look up in to the sky, forget light polution, you’d have a giant eye sore lookin moon city most likely poluted and it would forever stay that way, never looking the same agian as it has for millions of years. And even worse you’d be forced to look at it every night . It’s like a double edged sword, science is great and wonderful but we also must keep in mind the ramifications, some things may seem great now but could also cause great future problems down the road.
Sorry for Rambling
Leaf blower. ok. Has anyone ever heard of a broom? or a rake? We could just sweep the dust away and use a fresna lens in the sun light to melt the rock like lava into brick and plate rock to build a lading pad with and a dust wall around it with. I’m sure that if a fresna lens can melt a copper penny in seconds, then it could surly melt a rock or dust into liquid in moments too. A fresna lens would not need to be that big and it does not weigh that much eather to transport it to the lunar surface. It would be easy to manipulate and only needs sun light to use it.
Yea, Jefferson, you got a point on your last post. Whats the point of all this if only the wealthiest will be able to go to it, and the fact that mankind does have a habit of screwing up everything he touches with his knowlege of science. Odds are, 99.9% chance, you and I will not see it. There’s a 98% chance our children will not see it. There’s a 95% chance our grand kids will not see it eather. That is the bad news side of all this. But, However, there is a brighter side to it all. IF, and that is a big if, we can produce a better, more efficiant, less costly, more powerfull lift/delivery vehicle, then those odds can and will come down a bit for us. Then it wont cost us 95K to 200K for a seat on Virgin Galactic or the other privet space planes coming into service soon.
Well put I must say, lets just hope the human race will come up with affordable none damaging solution to a great achievement to add to the human race’s track record, and not a costly set back that will linger forever.
NASA should start investing into project where it can make some profit in order to sustain the expenses. I mean this will cost tons of money to maintain. Is there any material that can be brought back to Earth and generate profit from it. What is the point of having the base? Science? Well science cost money. Get some type of production going and do all the science you want.
I’d start Astroid mining, isn’t there tons of nickel on them? get the production going with one project and provide more funding for other projects.
Why bring stuff back?
A lunar brick on earth is worth bumpkiss compared to all the cheap bricks we have lying around.
But a lunar brick on the moon replaces one flown from earth at extrodanary cost. Making lunar brick making a viable industry when you get someone out there to buy the things.
Government Astronauts will likely be the first customers for private operations in space.
Just with this article as an example, a private landscaper using remote controlled bulldozers could’ve scored themselves a contract doing basic prep work for a lunar base.
That kind of job would be worth many millions, and its not nearly that complicated compared to space mining.
to colonize the moon would be heavy labor.
And I guess that “the rich” have better ways to enjoy their lives on this earthly paradise than to spend them under adverse circumstances. Also, living in a society with a broad offer of welfare benefits, I estimate that also most of “the poor” might not really exchange their backed lifestyles with the restrictions, threats, and strains of colonists. The rich or the poor: do those categories really have any interest to be on the moon? But of course, there are romantic idealists in every social class.
What sort of people would colonize the moon? It would be men and women with the highest qualifications. Because who would pay for 80 kilogram of dumbass? Not the no-good – rich or poor – would go there! Instead, the moon would be conquered for mankind by most qualified and most skilled people. Well trained. Perfectly prepared.
Also, Evolution (the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection) never sleeps!
Simon Poet-That article about the abrasive Moon dust is interesting-in June1980 after the great blast and collapse of Mt St.Helens, I was living in the Portland Metro area, and St Helens erupted and the wind blew southward toward our area and it was raining, I was out for a few minutes that early morning then said I better get ready for work, I lite up the light on my watch to see the time, and when I did ‘scratched the glass’ from the abrasive ash-I did not realize how abrasive is that ash!!! When I said the area of the Moon that was vaccumed and walked over by humans or that ‘robot’ ,a few microns depth of the surface ‘cleaned’ will break off and cause more dust -that ‘robot’ looks quite heavy and will creat quite a lot of dust. The tiny bb sized meteors I’ve described are too small to creat any crater and will just go through the surface and be covered by dust it stirred up but enough hits will cause the surface to not be that ‘solid and hard’ to be dust production proof when trampled over by humans or the ‘robots’ (Ive never said on all the posts I’ve made the surface will be like walking over a ‘swiss cheese’ surface and humans may fall into a ‘swiss cheese’ weakened surface 3 meters or so-that is something for class B movies, like 2 thugs in black leather jackets jumping off their spaceships without any ‘protective suits’ looking for someone to beat up and one of the goons falls into a collapsed surface! LMAO) The Moons’ surface is far stronger than that!!!! lol-I’m just saying there will be a constant dust issue that will have to eventually be addressed!!
Have you noticed how the wealthy are throwing millions into a ride to the I.S.S. already? Onboard a soviet space craft even? like The millionares don’t care about the adverse conditions. They want the fun and prestege of it all. They wont care about the adverse conditions on the moon eather. At lest I don’t think they will anyways. The wealthy are already lined up and have pre-paid or placed a down payment on a ride on Virgin Galactic already, even before the company has begun to start flight service yet.
A lunar colony may be started with people like scientists, backed by government funding through N.A.S.A and other space programs, But there will also be other people that are not, that will want to go to the moon for just the same reasons as the ones that went to the I.S.S. One fact we must all understand and bare in mind also here, Is just what a colony is. So we don’t comfuse a colony with a short term vacation resort. A colony would be people that move to the moon to live and stay there without any intentions of returning to Earth. A vacation resort is just a place people go, to visit and then return back from. As far as being a place of employment, The Moon would be too expencive of a place to go to on a daliy bases so any employment would be only through government and corporation funding for short junts of time, like a 6 month job where you would remain there for 6 months to do a job and then return to Earth. But that would only be for the ones you pointed out, the most educated and experienced, well trained people to do. I doubt that the Moon will actually be colonized, not for at lest a long, long time from now.
Dear U.S. Citizen,
I can make a distinction between Anousheh Ansari or Richard Garriott and a Colombian drug lord, but never mind!
A touristic visit of the landing site of the Eagle on the Moon would cost a lot. It is not unfair that rich people can have the experience of space while many can not. It just would be iniquitous if they would not have to pay a fair market value for this experience. Socialistic egalitarianism and enviousness are not helpfull to develop space tourism. The wealthy can help to pave the way to the stars much more than popular front revolutionaries. Therefore, don’t hinder them on their pursuit of happiness! I would rather advise you to encourage the rich to spend money on space tourism. Makes more sense! 😉
“I can make a distinction between Anousheh Ansari or Richard Garriott and a Colombian drug lord, but never mind!”
I read this. Still LMAO.
What would be a strange turn of events is if all the isolation from being on the moon months to years at a time would drive people crazy. have some astronaught related accidents, maybe not fom them killing each other ( would make a cool movie….oh wait, event hozrizon….) but maybe due to prolonged exposure to a lower to nil state of gravity, I have no idea what that could do to the human brain.I’ve heard that if your in space too long you slowly loose bone mass,but would that be the only thing to happen? What if a person was on the moon for 40 or 50 years and add some closterphobia from being stuck in dome, not being able to just be “ouside” so to say, In a sence it would kinda be like being in a cage I guess, or not, maybe someone would get use to it, maybe if they had been born on the moon orignally. And if that happend It would be interesting to see how they they would adapt to being on Earth for the first time.
“Horizon” my bad
Robotics seem to be the obvious ‘no brainer’ when it comes to exploring and developing the moon. I think swarms of cheap solar powered mini-rovers are the answer for the exploration phase. Lets take a look at what’s there before we even begin to think of anything as expensive as manned bases! If and when we do, I like the idea of using volcanic tubes for possible habitat locations. Underground facilities would provide raditaion and micro meteor impact protection. How about focusing solar energy to create air tight fused walls in volcanic tunnels?
As the astrobotictech report on lunar robots is entirely in metric (as it should be!), why has Nancy Atkinson dumbed down her account by translating into old fashioned imperial units?
I find this insulting and wholely inappropriate for the 21 st century.
95% of the people of this planet are metric and America has already decided to be entirely metric on future moon missions. So come on – get up to date!
it is contradicting to explore places with no sunlight and difficult to access – like volcanic tubes are – with solar powered mini-rovers. You will agree that neither can pitch-dark places be explored with solar powered probes, nor can vertical tubes be explored on wheels.
At least, probes for exploring volcanic tubes – if there are those features on the moon – should have the ability to advance in a controled motion in vertical direction. In other words, they need the ability to fly!
Therefore, engineers should consider whether any material at the lunar environment could easily be used to extract any gas. Gas would be a perfect fuel for vehicles to fly in the void of air environment of the moon. Simply by repulsion! Even small probes could descent into volcanic tubes with such a drive. So this might be one of many solution for powering vehicles on the moon. Thanks for being without prejudice!
Ahem… of course there would’nt be sunlight in a volcanic tube on the moon. That’s not what I am suggesting. Volcanic tubes can be found using ground penetrating radar from lunar orbit. The rovers would be used to explore mineral compostitions and possible entrances to a volcanic tube. Once a suitable location is identified, other robots would used to assemble an array of mirrors used to focus solar energy into a beam which then is directed into the cavern to ‘vitrify’ the walls into a glassy airtight enclosed space. As for exploring deeply into said caves and processing that space into a useful chamber, another source of power would indeed be required. Perhaps the vitrification mirrors would then be used to provide that power?
Location, location, location! The key to my suggestion is that molten lunar magma will have formed caves similar to what is found on the Hawaiian Islands. These long tunnels are where lava flowed downhill underground folowing the terrain’s sloping elevations. And yes, volcanic tubes have been found on the Moon. Whether or not they might be suitable for excavation and vitrification is another matter.
Aqua, forgive me! Any doubts are now clearly swept off. lol
when I saw the NASA design for lunar habitats for the first time I was reminded on TOI TOI & DIXI toilets.
@ Aqua (my favourite colour, incidentally)
Give that man a big gold star!
Lateral thinking like that might even get you a job a NASA as an advisor (Seriously)
Do hope someone is reading in at NASA (or even in China)!
lol A zero G space out-house? Now there’s were the big bucks are!
Tay, if you liked that one, try this one on for size. In my previous comment I mentioned that solar energy could be collected and used to fuse volcanic tube walls.. The same type of set up could be used to fuse the surface around landing sites.. eliminating dust hazards by sealing the surface with a vitrified layer.
Lunar dust is a nasty actor fur shore! I like the idea of incorporating a conductive mesh in lunar spacesuits which, when charged would electrostatically repell unwanted dust particles. Get it?
Of course, the conductive mesh I mentioned might also cause you to get fried by a passing CME or other charge if you weren’t properly grounded? Protection against?
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