William Saturno, a Boston University archeologist, excavates a mural in a house in Xultun, massive Mayan ruins in Guatemala. The mural depicts a figure who may have been the town scribe. Excavation and preservation of the site were supported by the National Geographic Society.  Credit: Tyrone Turner © 2012 National Geographic.
William Saturno, a Boston University archeologist, excavates a mural in a house in Xultun, massive Mayan ruins in Guatemala. The mural depicts a figure who may have been the town scribe. Excavation and preservation of the site were supported by the National Geographic Society. Credit: Tyrone Turner © 2012 National Geographic.

2012

End of the World Averted: New Archeological Find Proves Mayan Calendar Doesn’t End

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So much for the world ending on December 21, 2012. We’ve been saying it for years, but a new find by archaeologists confirms the Mayan calendar indeed does not end this year but keeps going, just like turning a page to a new calendar.

“It’s very clear that the 2012 date, while important as Baktun 13, was turning the page,” David Stuart, quoted by Alan Boyle on MSNBC’s Cosmic Log. “Baktun 14 was going to be coming, and Baktun 15 and Baktun 16. … The Maya calendar is going to keep going, and keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future.”

A team of archaeologists found a small room in Mayan ruins where royal scribes wrote on the walls — apparently like a blackboard — to keep track of astronomical records and details of the complex Mayan calendar. The writings date to about 1,200 years ago.

These are the oldest known astronomical tables from the Maya. They were found at the Xultun archaeological site in Guatemala’s Peten region. Scientists already knew the Mayans must have been keeping such records during that time period, but until now the oldest known examples dated from about 600 years later.

The room, about 2 meters (6-feet) square, contains walls decorated with images of a king and some other notable figures, as well as astronomical numbers and writings, the scientists said. The room had a stone roof rather than a thatched one, which may indicate the importance of the room.

Why did they write on walls, as opposed to other Mayan texts that have been found on bark paper?

The time period of the early 9th century was not a stable time for the Mayans, as there was political turmoil between the various city-states of the time, and the researchers said that perhaps the Xultun scribes wished to make a more permanent record of their data related to the calendar.

By some supposed “researchers,” Dec. 21, 2012 has been correlated to the end of the Mayan Long Count calendar, which was based on a cycle of 13 intervals known as baktuns, each lasting 144,000 days.

But the newly found writing on walls of the ancient room shows wide ranges of accumulated time, including a 17-baktun period. “There was a lot more to the Maya calendar than just 13 baktuns,” said Stuart, talking with reporters. Seventeen baktuns would stand for about 6,700 years, which is much longer than the 13-baktun cycle of 5,125 years. However, Stuart cautioned that the time notation shouldn’t be read as specifying a date that’s farther in the future than Dec. 21.

“It may just be that this is a mathematical number that’s kind of interesting,” he said. “We’re not sure what the base of the calendar is.”

William Saturno, an archaeologist at Boston University who led the team of archaeologists said many different scientists have been trying to get the word out that the end of the Maya culture’s 13-baktun Long Count calendar doesn’t signify the end of the world, but merely a turnover to the next cycle in a potentially infinite series — like going from Dec. 31 to Jan. 1 on a modern calendar.

“If someone is a hard-core believer that the world is going to end in 2012, no painting is going to convince them otherwise,” he said. “The only thing that can convince them otherwise is waiting until Dec. 22, 2012 — which fortunately for all of us isn’t that far away.”

Read the team’s abstract.

Read more at Cosmic Log, ABC News, Science, National Geographic.

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Nancy Atkinson is currently Universe Today's Contributing Editor. Previously she served as UT's Senior Editor and lead writer, and has worked with Astronomy Cast and 365 Days of Astronomy. Nancy is also a NASA/JPL Solar System Ambassador.



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cbcnasa
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cbcnasa
May 10, 2012 8:54 PM

This would be a great topic on Dec. 21, 2012 on 365 Days of Astronomy

Bobr
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Bobr
May 11, 2012 2:17 AM

Really?
While I’m impressed with the aspect of an ancient calendar, I think discussion of its relevance to “the end of the world” is unworthy of this *science* site.
Such drivel shouldn’t even be acknowledged here.

Next there will be a posted article relating to horoscopes.

Jeff Boerst
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Jeff Boerst
May 11, 2012 9:18 PM

The article is mainly about new ASTRONOMICAL data found from earlier Mayan history. And this web-site IS devoted to … Astronomy, no? They just used it to further debunk and poke fun at pseudo-science which as I understand it, is a side goal of folks like these who’s MAIN goal is to popularize science. If you still want to label it “Drivel”, … skip it.

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fitzgeraldalberto
May 11, 2012 2:18 AM

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Zoutsteen
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Zoutsteen
May 10, 2012 9:54 PM

“just hang up a new calendar”.

Well, now we got scientific proof that it worked in the past ;-D

magnus.nyborg
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magnus.nyborg
May 11, 2012 10:34 AM

…and the next Mayan calendar will be with bikini models.

Ozgur Zeren
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May 11, 2012 12:25 AM

Mayan calendar is based on solar and cosmic cycles. Naturally after a certain date, those cycles would not ‘just’ stop. The reason why the main calender mayans were using ends in 2012, was not that the world thought to be going to end at that date, but, they thought people would not need calendars after that date. For some reason, they thought it would be a different world. Such was believed in their culture.

Ozgur Zeren
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May 11, 2012 12:25 AM

Mayan calendar is based on solar and cosmic cycles. Naturally after a certain date, those cycles would not ‘just’ stop. The reason why the main calender mayans were using ends in 2012, was not that the world thought to be going to end at that date, but, they thought people would not need calendars after that date. For some reason, they thought it would be a different world. Such was believed in their culture.

magnus.nyborg
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magnus.nyborg
May 11, 2012 5:25 AM

So the world will not end on Dec 21 2012? Who would have thunk…

SJStar
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SJStar
May 11, 2012 5:27 AM

…still planning to have a party!!

wilmer Linares
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wilmer Linares
May 11, 2012 3:18 AM

Mayas never said that world will ends up on Dec 21 2012, it is a misinterpreted data. The fact is that a stage or a cycle ends and another begins, no destruction will happen just a jump to another frequency and conciousness level. I

squidgeny
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squidgeny
May 11, 2012 12:33 PM

Yes. Except that won’t happen either

magnus.nyborg
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magnus.nyborg
May 11, 2012 3:37 PM

I really hope some people will reach another consciousness level, because then they might actually stop making shit up.

Shawn Schuiteboer
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Shawn Schuiteboer
May 11, 2012 3:22 AM

Go SpaceX!

marlon david
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May 11, 2012 7:29 AM

All of a sudden, universe today believes in mayan writings…hahaha

William928
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William928
May 11, 2012 10:07 PM

Errr…..Not so much

Lonecoolman
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Lonecoolman
May 11, 2012 12:11 PM

Mayan cycle is based on the LUNAR cycle, and it is a point of hitting bottom of the Iron age we are living in today. A non spiritual world. Check out the Pyramid code on you tube. Not only the Mayans, but Egyptians, Hopi Indians, and other ancient civilizations have said that there would be a grand event coming in this time period. Not the end of the world, but the end of the world as WE know it today.

Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
May 11, 2012 7:53 PM

You know that prediction is terrible beyond 5 days due to weather, right? And you need supercomputers to get that far with nature.

More to the point, what is your evidence?

Lonecoolman
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Lonecoolman
May 12, 2012 3:36 AM

What prediction? and what does my post have to do with the weather? And supercomputers? You seem confused. Good luck with that. Take care.

magnus.nyborg
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magnus.nyborg
May 12, 2012 8:34 AM

Maybe soon more people around the world will realise that living in fantasies and make beliefs is an unproductive way of living. Especially when the fantasies are build upon other peoples fantasies, who built them on other peoples fantasies, who made up the fantasies because they didnt understand the scary world around them.

Now that would be the end of the world as we know it today, and I would welcome it.

JunoVidor
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JunoVidor
May 12, 2012 11:14 AM
Good on you mate. I couldn’t have said it any better. So much non-stopping BS because an ancient calendar. What’s a calendar after all? Nothing but an abstract tool invented to keep track of events in the past and in the present. The ones related to the future were taken care of by the self-proclamed “science” of astrology by means of an horoscope. We wouldn’t even need any calendars whatsoever if the fourth dimemsion spacetime were understood a few millennia ago rather than the separated concepts of space and time that still apply in most of our daily routines. And that fact would have saved us all a lot of today’s idiotic crap that we have to put… Read more »
Lonecoolman
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Lonecoolman
May 12, 2012 12:56 PM

I have seen a documentary on ancient Egypt which was fascinating and it discussed how the ancients were in tune with and knew about the left/right side of the brain, how the glands in our body’s ruled our bodily functions and so much more. We as a race, humans, had knowledge that has been lost through the ages. And now with the discovery of the pyramids in Bosnia, the book on our race’s lost knowledge is being greatly added too. There is something a foot, you all must agree? For if you don’t admit what your own eyes tell you you see, you are asleep.

magnus.nyborg
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magnus.nyborg
May 12, 2012 5:36 PM

There are plenty of amasing things of ancient yet to discover.

But the egyptians also believed that the Sun was carried in a carriot across the sky each day, if you believe that you are not only asleep, you are nuts.

At the time, their misunderstanding was clearly made by a lack of proper understanding of the universe, where the jump to fantasies was the only generally accepted explanation. This problem is still present today, where fantasy takes presedence over reality simply because some people simply dont understand better. Makebelieve simply doesnt work as a platform for building complex structures.

Bryon Astell
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May 11, 2012 2:12 PM

Mayans didn’t account for leap year did they. Isn’t it like 2017 or 2018 by their calendar…..

Bryon Astell
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May 11, 2012 2:12 PM

Mayans didn’t account for leap year did they. Isn’t it like 2017 or 2018 by their calendar…..

John Nichols
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May 11, 2012 2:17 PM

so, the greeks, indians, chinese, hopi, peruvians, mayans and europeans were all wrong…just pranksters. stonehenge was built as a joke. the pyramids were built as a joke. golden rectangle cities (cities of gold) were built as a joke. the dead sea scrolls were written in jest, as a joke. yeah, right scientists…you bet.

John Nichols
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May 11, 2012 2:17 PM

so, the greeks, indians, chinese, hopi, peruvians, mayans and europeans were all wrong…just pranksters. stonehenge was built as a joke. the pyramids were built as a joke. golden rectangle cities (cities of gold) were built as a joke. the dead sea scrolls were written in jest, as a joke. yeah, right scientists…you bet.

jjb
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jjb
May 11, 2012 3:28 PM

Pretty much! wink

Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
May 11, 2012 7:48 PM

You are making shit up. It is well understood and plenty published that these monuments were built as cities (mayan cities, say) or ritual monuments (graves around pyramids, stonehenge et cetera).

When you get to religious texts, you loose me. They are neither jokes nor factual, they are serious attempts to con people.

Jeff Boerst
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Jeff Boerst
May 11, 2012 9:21 PM

“so, the greeks, indians, chinese, hopi, peruvians, mayans and europeans were all wrong…just pranksters. stonehenge was built as a joke. the pyramids were built as a joke. golden rectangle cities (cities of gold) were built as a joke. the dead sea scrolls were written in jest, as a joke. yeah, right scientists…you bet.” Noooo-o-o–o—o… Your interpre-TA-tion of what their structures were built for is WRONG. Learn. To. Think.

dwdeclare
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May 11, 2012 2:24 PM

well that’s nfg! i was really counting on the world ending so i wouldn’t have to go to work anymore.

we’ll never get off this island…never!

Laserburn
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Laserburn
May 11, 2012 10:43 AM

Excellent work!

jjb
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jjb
May 11, 2012 2:45 PM
I do not blame UT, totally. But I do blame them some. -> I blame Obama for cutting NASA’s budget and such. Because now there is nothing to talk about and UT has to go to empty well and pull up JUNK like this. Before those who say, ‘Obama had nothing to do with it!” Yes he did. He leads by EXAMPLE. JFK, gave out the challenge of putting man on the moon and we made it happen. What NASA goals did Obama have? Make it more Muslim Friendly. (???) Why don’t he make it more Christian Friendly? Mormon Friendly? Catholic Friendly? Buddhist friendly? (See???) I never under stood that??? But seriously UT – it would be better… Read more »
squidgeny
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squidgeny
May 11, 2012 2:57 PM

What NASA goals did Obama have? Make it more Muslim Friendly.

lol

Is that seriously A Thing You Believe or am I missing some sort of satire here

jjb
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jjb
May 11, 2012 3:27 PM

Hint – I’ll let you ponder it a little longer. wink But don’t ponder too long, it’s not “rocket science” ….

William928
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William928
May 11, 2012 10:04 PM

Obama may lead by example, but it is nearly impossible for him to direct any legislation that doesn’t square with the anti science, anti abortion dogma of the Christian right obstructionists in Congress.

jjb
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jjb
May 11, 2012 10:30 PM

WS … Sorry, but I don’t know any “Christian Right Obstructionists In Congress that are anti-science … let alone anti-space exploration. Please feel free to sight a group that is “anti-Space Exploration. In fact I know of some LEFT groups that are totally against Space Exploration. They call it a total waste of money.

Greg
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Greg
May 12, 2012 3:31 AM
From my experience the left in the U.S. is generally science friendly and likes to spend more government funds on science projects. Before she was voted out, my congresswoman was about as far left as you can imagine and voted consistently for maximizing the NASA budget and for science research initiatives (hopefully my letters to her voicing support for such programs helped.) Individuals on the right who are pro-religion tend to be anti-science for funding whereas those on the right who are pro-military tend to favor science since they realize this is only way for our military to stay ahead of rivals such as Russia and China. So members of Congress can be pro or anti science on… Read more »
Greg
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Greg
May 12, 2012 3:31 AM
From my experience the left in the U.S. is generally science friendly and likes to spend more government funds on science projects. Before she was voted out, my congresswoman was about as far left as you can imagine and voted consistently for maximizing the NASA budget and for science research initiatives (hopefully my letters to her voicing support for such programs helped.) Individuals on the right who are pro-religion tend to be anti-science for funding whereas those on the right who are pro-military tend to favor science since they realize this is only way for our military to stay ahead of rivals such as Russia and China. So members of Congress can be pro or anti science on… Read more »
jjb
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jjb
May 12, 2012 3:55 AM

I agree Greg … I know “Left” and “Right” that support NASA and I know Christian’s and Non-Christians that do .. and I know “left” & “Right” – Christian and Non that do NOT support. It’s not just one side or the other… There are “bad apples” in all groups. I do not judge any one group based on a few ‘bad apples’… But Obama did indeed cut the budget and had the final say – He could have easily stepped up and spoke out against NASA Budget Cuts – but did NOT.

Greg
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Greg
May 14, 2012 10:13 PM

It is unusual and unfortunate that a President on the left took an axe to the funding of a science program. My own take on this is that he wanted to take a stand opposing as many administrative policies of Bush II as possible. I had thought it unsually good fortune that a neo-con like Bush was pro-science via NASA, but as I discussed above he is ardently pro-military.

intelligencewoego
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intelligencewoego
May 11, 2012 2:58 PM

i guess i am going to need life insurance.

Mark
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Mark
May 11, 2012 10:58 AM
It is just the end of a cycle. The calender is very cyclic, and each cycle pertains to a different rule over Earth and level of collective consciousness. What people seem to underestimate are the skills of the Mayans. They never went through precision on a level we know little of, and built all these giant monoliths and pyramids, vaults, and bury one of their Chief leaders (unsure of time), and buried him with a pure Jade mask and a coffin with the Chief in a spacecraft on the front of it. Google Pakal and check it out. There’s no denying that people are waking up more and more. Once you’ve awoken, you see hour the decades before… Read more »
squidgeny
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squidgeny
May 11, 2012 12:39 PM

I’ll wager that the impending “different rule over Earth and level of collective consciousness, a shift in balance” has no measurable or observable effects whatsoever, yet the cranks will keep saying it happened.

dwdeclare
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May 11, 2012 2:34 PM

how much you wanna wager…20 quatloos?

jjb
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jjb
May 11, 2012 4:49 PM

I agree – talk about “Subjective”. I would love to see how they measure this on 12-22-2012. This so called “awakening” or “enlightenment” …. Oh well.

Mark
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Mark
May 11, 2012 11:01 AM

Double post.

jjb
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jjb
May 11, 2012 3:45 PM

Yup, I wake up every day for the past 57 years… and I’ll wake up again tomorrow, hopefully. But the sad thing is – Greed, Lust, Selfishness, Pride, Egos still continue. So the Earth might be changing … but it’s a very very slow pace.

Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
May 11, 2012 7:54 PM

What is your testable difference between “waking” and “not waking”?

Zoutsteen
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Zoutsteen
May 12, 2012 5:19 PM

[quote] They even buried one of their Chief leaders (unsure of the time), and buried him with a pure Jade mask and a sarcophagus lid with the Chief himself in a spacecraft on the lid, with planets we know today making a border around it [/quote]

I see a (jaguar clad) throne with a cockatoo like bird perched on the top protrusion?
I did love Erich von Däniken in my young days, but not without critique.

Cheers though, I agree we should move onward in our consciousness. !

Charlie Kirkpatrick
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May 13, 2012 5:48 AM

When are we humans ever going to grow up and realize that we are not now, nor have humans ever been capable of predicting when the earth will cease to exist. As it relates to Universal Time, our species has only been around a very few minutes. In those few moments, we have learned quite a bit but we have a whole lot more to learnsuch as, how to live together on earth at peace.
Please See: http://www.worldpeacecode.com

Guy Jorion
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May 22, 2012 12:06 AM

pakal is however you want to interpret it! as they interpreted their way dosnt neccesarily mean they were right !

Hal Rogers
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Hal Rogers
May 11, 2012 7:02 PM

we’re saved.

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