Ice loss in Barrow Alaska from 2006 to 2007. Credit: US Geological Survey

Declassified Ice Loss Images

27 Jul , 2009 by

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Last week the US government released more than a thousand intelligence images of Arctic ice that have been used to help scientists study the impact of climate change. The images were taken by spy satellites, as part of the Medea program, which lets scientists request spy pictures from environmentally sensitive locations around the world. After they were taken, the Bush Administration released the photographs to the scientists but deemed them “unsuitable for public release.” Earlier this month, the National Academy of Sciences recommended the Obama Administration declassify the photos, which they did within a few hours of the recommendation.

Various blogs are saying these dramatic images are faked, but since they are available through the US Geological Survey , that hardly seems likely. Over 700 images show changes of sea ice in various recent years from six sites around the Arctic Ocean, with an additional 500 images of 22 sites in the United States.

Ice loss in the Beaufort Sea. Credit: USGS

Ice loss in the Beaufort Sea. Credit: USGS

Scientists request ice pictures to be taken by intelligence satellites because the resolution is much greater, in some cases, than other available satellite images. According to Reuters, the newly declassified Arctic images have a resolution of about 1 yard (1 meter), a vast improvement on previously available pictures of sea ice which have a resolution between 15 and 30 meters.

Ice loss at the Bering Glacier. Credit: USGS

Ice loss at the Bering Glacier. Credit: USGS

Sources: Reuters, USGS, TrueSlant



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Danny
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Danny
July 27, 2009 8:55 PM
Not enough to be believable.. Those photos could of been shot in different seasons. One in the summer and one in winter. This planet, which has been here way before humans and probably way after humans is just doing what is does. It does not need humans to save it. Earth doesn’t need humans to exist. So this whole idea that Global Warming is used as an effort to save the planet is just another deception to hide the real truth, global enslavement through taxation along with eugenics in order to cut the population by 80-90%. Think I’m a conspiracy theorist? Don’t want to believe it? President Obama’s new Czar of Science, John P. Holdren, wrote a book… Read more »
Danny
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Danny
July 27, 2009 9:02 PM

Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for Global Warming fraud / John Coleman

Danny
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Danny
July 27, 2009 9:07 PM

Anything data thats the shape of hockey stick is BAD SCIENCE!

gwhitton
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gwhitton
July 27, 2009 9:28 PM
Danny, Bad science is when you express opinions with no data, and no sources to back you up. Kind of like your three posts. I’ve always asked the question why is it the world bashes scientists when it comes to global warming, when we seem to take as fact 90% of the rest of the things they do…from discovering gravity, to nuclear weapons and cures for polio. The big difference here, isn’t some grand conspiracy of enslavement, its because for the first time the science is telling a public drunk on cheap oil that they have to get off their butts and change their lifestyles…and people are lazy, they don’t want to have to do anything…and the’ll waste… Read more »
Pvt.Pantzov
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July 27, 2009 9:37 PM

Danny,

don’t you think that population control is a good thing? i’m not talking about genocide or murder, but more along the lines of birth control. if we don’t take care of the problem of future overpopulation ourselves, nature will do it for us; probably in typically brutal fashion.

Astrofiend
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Astrofiend
July 27, 2009 9:43 PM
“Those photos could of been shot in different seasons. One in the summer and one in winter. ” At first I thought you were joking, but then I realised that you weren’t. For somebody astute enough to recognise the inherent problems with climate change science, one would have thought you’d at least look at the pictures you were making rash assertions about >>>Notice the dates are included above each photo for our viewing convenience. “Various blogs are saying these dramatic images are faked, but since they are available through the US Geological Survey , that hardly seems likely. ” Yep – that’s because the USGS are in on it!! The same shady government forces that covered up Roswell,… Read more »
Crewvy
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Crewvy
July 27, 2009 9:45 PM

Is it normal to have that amount of ice around Barrow Alaska in mid summer?
Don`t we need more than two photographs to compare any change in weather patterns?
You can`t really make any assumptions on these photos even if the dates are correct.

Pvt.Pantzov
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July 27, 2009 9:51 PM

astrofiend, that was one of your most hilarious posts.

Astrofiend
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Astrofiend
July 27, 2009 10:04 PM
I am constantly impressed by people’s capacity to scale the lofty heights of dumb. Even if climate change isn’t a result of human activity, even in the slightest, why wouldn’t we want to clean up this planet? The s**t we breathe in everyday must be mind bogglingly bad for us. Living in a large city has been described as being equivalent to smoking a half-pack of cigarettes each day in some respects. I know a guy that used to be a bike courier in Sydney – a small city in the scheme of things. He quit because he was starting to cough up black goo on a regular basis. He didn’t smoke, but may as well have. Of… Read more »
Astrofiend
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Astrofiend
July 27, 2009 10:06 PM

“Pvt.Pantzov Says:
July 27th, 2009 at 9:51 pm ”

I try! (usually I fail though)…

Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
July 28, 2009 2:21 AM
Not to feed the troll (which is, as usual, cold on science) but the evidence provided here is that the conspiracy is in the other direction. _The US government at the time classified photos illustrating climate changes_, because they were threatening to their policy of science denial. [Since it was known actions, there were no secret conspiracy of conspirationists of course – just a wrongful one.] if we don’t take care of the problem of future overpopulation ourselves, nature will do it for us; probably in typically brutal fashion. I’m not sure any natural populations follows Malthus’ models. FWIW, we _are_ taking care of the problem by way of successful exploitation and increasing efficiency regarding natural resources –… Read more »
Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
July 28, 2009 2:27 AM

This went missing: That increase in efficiency [of farming] is claimed to increase the current (positive) food supply even more, as it will overcome the population increase.

DrFlimmer
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DrFlimmer
July 28, 2009 2:50 AM

As usual, I just ask:

Shall we risk it?

@ Astrofriend:

Really great posts wink

s0l
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s0l
July 28, 2009 3:09 AM
“the science is telling a public drunk on cheap oil that they have to get off their butts and change their lifestyles ” mmm they may be saying that to make people feel guilty but in practice business is still running as usual. Kinda like the finance system… Who got the public drunk on cheap oil and credit in the first place? The very same buffoons who are now patronizing the population about their lack of monetary and ecological responsability. Torbjorn, did you know that GM soja crops have recently started “hybridizing” with a wild plant , amaranth, meaning that now farmers need to use twice as much pesticides which are killing bacterial life in the soil preventing… Read more »
haakon
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haakon
July 28, 2009 3:27 AM

of course these images has not been faked. most scientist agree that a global warming is taking place and it seems very probable that it to some extent is due to our modern way of living. that said, i think the problem is the way that these two pictures (barrow alaska) were presented in the media as some kind of proof of global warming. I mean, why not also include pictures from 2008 and 2009? where are these pictures, if there are any? has anyone got a link? that would be highly appreciated.

Trippy
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Trippy
July 28, 2009 3:37 AM

One of many things that I find highly amusing is the simple fact that IIRC originaly the scientests wanted to include a suicide gene, so that any hybrids would be infertile to prevent crossbreeding, and the sorts of problems that have been aluded to, however the activists cried “No! You can’t do that! You’re forcing the poor third world farmers to be dependent on you and by new seed every year”.

So the scientests did what the activist wanted, and what the scientests warned would happen has happened, and who’s fault is it?

You guessed it.

The scientests.

Kevin F.
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Kevin F.
July 28, 2009 4:55 AM

It doesn’t matter what’s causing it, the ice pack is receding.

Vedic
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Vedic
July 28, 2009 5:20 AM

Humm…

Earlier this year I had over a foot of snow outside my house. The year before it was hot and sunny.

Does this mean that in my area of England we are in fact experiencing Global Cooling?

I’m afraid this does not represent science to me.

David
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David
July 28, 2009 5:41 AM
Vedic, we are talking about large sheets of ice that have been there for a long time, not localized weather. We had hail stones fall yesterday while it was about 77 degrees F. That’s niether hear, nor there. Danny, get a grip! Astrofiend, funny post! I want to comment on one thing though: “The same shady government forces that covered up Roswell” If you look at the FACTS, something happened at Roswell that was indeed covered up. On Tuesday, July 8, the Roswell Army Air Field issued the following OFFICIAL press release: “The many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell… Read more »
Dark Gnat
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Dark Gnat
July 28, 2009 6:04 AM

I think deforestation and over-development is just as, if not more important than human-related CO2 output, as there is less plant material to absorb CO2.

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