Comments for 2012: No Geomagnetic Reversal

by Fraser Cain on October 3, 2008

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Nasif Nahle April 10, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Dear Richard… You say:

True the Voyager craft have detected a fluctuation in interstellar radiation but the changes have in no way been proved to be responsible for climate change/global warming on ANY of the planets. Changes in the atmospheres of Saturn and Jupiter are local phenomena due to the very turbulent and complex mix of gases there.
Once again we see ‘cherry-picked’ data used to suit a particular idea.
For example – the changes in the atmosphere of Pluto is due to the changes in it’s orbit and the increasing distance from the sun.
It’s an absolute travesty that data is deliberately misrepresented. either that or the person doesn’t understand.

It’s not what I say, but what other scientists say on articles published in Science Magazine, NAS, NASA, Harvard, etc. If you wish to find inconsistencies on a work, read the references first and then… talk. What Voyagers found was not a normal density, but an anomaly at the bow shock.


Nasif Nahle

P. S. Your explanations on changes on other planets have been falsified. All referred changes occurred on the same period the Earth had its global warming.

becky April 12, 2009 at 7:10 AM

Happy Easter, everyone!!!!! have a blessed day—please be well…

Amit April 12, 2009 at 9:24 PM


Agree with you. Its the “unknown” quaity of the Crossing/Alignment in 2012 that is causing so much speculation. no one knows what will happen. There are so many possibilites, and when it comes to occurence, there may be none!
Still, i personally belive that there is a lot of siognificance in the structures built by the Egyptians and Mayans, based on heavenly bodies. Such alignments cannot be credited to mere coincidence!

Leah April 13, 2009 at 7:34 AM

Hi Amit,

No, they were deffinately not built by coincidence, but I keep in mind e.g. that we are no longer in the same location in space as they were, and therefore conditions external to the solar system are not the same either, so our experience will be a variation of their experience.
We can hope that what we have experienced in the recent past, and are experiencing now, re climate and geological events, is the
most we will have to endure.

Be well,

Leah April 13, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Hi Paul,

Hope you are well and had a good Easter holiday.
Yup I’m aware. The ancients are deffinately alluding to there being something important re the precession and or periodic location in space, that warrents paying attention to….back then, and now.
However, as we know…..different location = different conditions….in truth, there is no starting point and no finnishing point to the precession……one could nominate any one point anywhere in the cycle….and call it the beginning/end. To know the significance of why the point of completion of the precession was chosen in the first place, would be useful.

Are there any thoughts on this in the cosmological field ?
Be well,

Leah April 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM


Who, if you know, are the fore runners in tracking the strength of the Solar magnetic field at the moment, and who has the historical data ?
Be well,

paul Eaton-Jones April 13, 2009 at 9:56 AM

I don’t think there’s any real debate regarding the validity of the alignment of the Giza pyramids with the stars of Orion’s Belt. This has been known for a number of years and isn’t mere coincidence. There are innumerable instances of ancient cultures from all over the globe dedicating and aligning temples, megalithic structures etc to either reflect the stars or ‘appease’ the gods. Again this is not a problem for academia. Whether it was the dominant reason for it is something that can be argued especially as many of these cultures didn’t leave a written history so it’s a matter of personal interpretation.
Your point, Leah, about not being in the same place in space is a very good one. You may know, or not, that some ancient monuments in the Near East are lined up with Thuban which was the Pole Star thousands of years ago. The next bright star to take its place as Pole star will be Vega in Lyra. It’s the bright blue star visible almost overhead in the summer. The precession of the pole will then bring Polaris back as Pole Star.

paul Eaton-Jones April 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM

I’d look first at the JPL site. Then look for a link to the Voyagers/Pioneers. You could also google something like, ‘solar mag field and follow any link to a recognised science site. The Pacific Astro Soc. is a mine of information covering all kinds of data.

I don’t think there’s any significance in why such and such a point in the precession was picked historically. If you trace out the circle along which our pole passes there are vast areas with no bright star/stars. It is just down to chance or luck if there happened to be a bright star marking the pole when a particular civilisation chose to align a building with the Pole. In the current epoch the pole star has moved somewhat so our pole of rotation isn’t lined up properly. So it goes, so it goes.
The ancients will have known about precession but by knowing how it occurred may not have ascribed particular significance to it.

Leah April 14, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Thanks Paul….I’ll check it out.
Its as I see it re the precession….any bright star would cut it as the beginning / completion of the precession. Useful as a long count calendar….where one is in the cycle denotes when one is in the cycle.
Be well,

Amit April 15, 2009 at 1:00 AM


Societies do not usually lose their freedom at a blow. They give it up bit by bit, letting themselves be tied down with an infinity of little knots. As rules and regulations increase, their range of actions is gradually compressed. Their options slowly lessen.

Without noticing the change, they become wards of state. They imagine themselves still free, but in a thousand and one ways, their choices are limited and guided by the authorities.

And always, there are what seem to be sensible reasons for letting their autonomy be peeled away – “safety”, “health”, “social justice”, “equal opportunity.”

It is easy to become accustomed to docility. That is why eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. Not because liberty is easy to shatter. Because it can be softened and dismantled with the acquiescence of the very men and women from whom it is being stolen.

Jeff Jacoby, columnist, Boston Post.

Art Full April 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Global domination by who? I think we should be told. Or perhaps its just a conspiracy. Perhaps JJ is JAT or OILS or one of the other bozos here.

yourmomsnutz April 21, 2009 at 2:13 AM

just awesome!!! thanks

more real than most think!!!!!!


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