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Astronomy Without A Telescope – Black Hole Evolution

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While only observable by inference, the existence of supermassive black holes (SMBHs) at the centre of most – if not all – galaxies remains a compelling theory supported by a range of indirect observational methods. Within these data sources, there exists a strong correlation between the mass of the galactic bulge of a galaxy and the mass of its central SMBH – meaning that smaller galaxies have smaller SMBHs and bigger galaxies have bigger SMBHs.

Linked to this finding is the notion that SMBHs may play an intrinsic role in galaxy formation and evolution – and might have even been the first step in the formation of the earliest galaxies in the universe, including the proto-Milky Way.

Now, there are a number of significant assumptions built into this line of thinking, since the mass of a galactic bulge is generally inferred from the velocity dispersion of its stars – while the presence of supermassive black holes in the centre of such bulges is inferred from the very fast radial motion of inner stars – at least in closer galaxies where we can observe individual stars.

For galaxies too far away to observe individual stars – the velocity dispersion and the presence of a central supermassive black hole are both inferred – drawing on the what we have learnt from closer galaxies, as well as from direct observations of broad emission lines – which are interpreted as the product of very rapid orbital movement of gas around an SMBH (where the ‘broadening’ of these lines is a result of the Doppler effect).

But despite the assumptions built on assumptions nature of this work, ongoing observations continue to support and hence strengthen the theoretical model. So, with all that said – it seems likely that, rather than depleting its galactic bulge to grow, both an SMBH and the galactic bulge of its host galaxy grow in tandem.

It is speculated that the earliest galaxies, which formed in a smaller, denser universe, may have started with the rapid aggregation of gas and dust, which evolved into massive stars, which evolved into black holes – which then continued to grow rapidly in size due to the amount of surrounding gas and dust they were able to accrete.

Distant quasars may be examples of such objects which have grown to a galactic scale. However, this growth becomes self-limiting as radiation pressure from an SMBH’s accretion disk and its polar jets becomes intense enough to push large amounts of gas and dust out beyond the growing SMBH’s sphere of influence. That dispersed material contains vestiges of angular momentum to keep it in an orbiting halo around the SMBH and it is in these outer regions that star formation is able to take place. Thus a dynamic balance is reached where the more material an SMBH eats, the more excess material it blows out – contributing to the growth of the galaxy that is forming around it.

The almost linear correlation between the SMBH mass (M) and velocity dispersion (sigma) of the galactic bulge (the 'M-sigma relation') suggests that there is some kind of co-evolution going on between an SMBH and its host galaxy. The only way an SMBH can get bigger is if its host galaxy gets bigger - and vice versa. The left chart shows data points derived from different objects in a galaxy - the right chart shows data points derived from different types of galaxies. Credit: Tremaine et al. (2002).

To further investigate the evolution of the relationship between SMBHs and their host galaxies – Nesvadba et al looked at a collection of very red-shifted (and hence very distant) radio galaxies (or HzRGs). They speculate that their selected group of galaxies have reached a critical point – where the feeding frenzy of the SMBH is blowing out about as much material as it is taking in – a point which probably represents the limit of the active growth of the SMBH and its host galaxy.

From that point, such galaxies might grow further by cannibalistic merging – but again this may lead to a co-evolution of the galaxy and the SMBH – as much of the contents of the galaxy being eaten gets used up in star formation within the feasting galaxy’s disk and bulge, before whatever is left gets through to feed the central SMBH.

Other authors (e.g. Schulze and Gebhardt), while not disputing the general concept, suggest that all the measurements are a bit out as a result of not incorporating dark matter into the theoretical model. But, that is another story…

Further reading: Nesvadba et al. The black holes of radio galaxies during the “Quasar Era”: Masses, accretion rates, and evolutionary stage.

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Lawrence B. Crowell
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Lawrence B. Crowell
November 27, 2010 6:48 PM

If these observations of spectral broadening can be extended to the most distant galaxies we might observe how SMBHs form in the first place. This would suggest that SMBH formation might be accompanied by the rapid formation of the earliest galaxies.

LC

Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
November 27, 2010 11:35 PM
There is more. I believe LC laid out in a comment on the “Jets” thread how BHs explains overcoming and regulating angular momentum in whole. Also, I seem to remember a paper looking at star birth rate in galaxies, which distribution has to be disentangled from aging and what not. Doing it properly seemed to predict that formation rate was tightly regulated by feed back. Now, as I can’t find the paper I don’t know if it connects. But conversely, the SMBH results should suggest a birth rate regulation, if I understand it correctly. Speculating then, star birth would pull (into stars) and push (radiation) matter away from the SMBH star production engine, constituting a negative feedback regulating… Read more »
Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
November 27, 2010 11:37 PM

“… LC laid out in a comment …”, and others, I remember now.

Manu
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Manu
November 28, 2010 2:54 AM

“the mass of a galactic bulge is generally inferred from the velocity dispersion of its stars ”
I don’t really understand this. Does “its stars” relate to the bulge, or the whole galaxy? And why should it be the dispersion, rather than the average velocity?

Other questions: SMBHs vary in mass from millions to billions of solar masses. Do bulges vary in the same proportion? What is the current understanding about the reasons for this important variation?

damian
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November 28, 2010 5:01 AM
Its most plausible to think of ‘whatever’ we are indirectly observing in galaxy center’s as formative to a their existence and structure. What is not being asked is what purpose it serves. I personally like thinking of galaxies as a star factory’s. Turning base interstellar hydrogen into stars that further turn it into heavier metals. The jets emanating from the centers of our proposed SMBH could be the engine of a galaxy that achieve this task. Why the universe has or needs such factories is yet another question. I feel it has to be tied to entropy, which creates ever more complex and energy efficient systems. Yes they are ultimately a lower energy state but also far more… Read more »
Lawrence B. Crowell
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Lawrence B. Crowell
November 28, 2010 5:16 AM
SMBH production most likely had to begin with the end of the radiation dominated period. The entropy of the universe was low at the start, which means there were not likely black holes that emerged in the quantum tunneling or instanton that defined the preinflationary universe. Inflation precluded any possible BH formation after that. Then with the reheating phase where the inflaton potential became a quadratic potential the universe entered the radiation period. BH formation was again unlikely then as well. Yet it does appear that within 5e^8 years galaxies and probably large BHs were alive and kicking. With these giant telescope planned it should be possible to peer into the hearts of these earliest galaxies to determine… Read more »
Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
November 28, 2010 8:39 AM
it has to be tied to entropy, which creates ever more complex and energy efficient systems. Ah, um, well. First, the overall reason there is dust to create stars can be found in environmental principles, which maximize life where there is dust. It isn’t tied to entropy as such, though without a sufficiently expanding universe you would have neither dust nor possible entropy increase from its expansion. Second, gravitation is counterintuitive when we discuss entropy, it is the negative specific heat capacity of a gravitational cloud that let it shrink, but it looses entropy (and its energy, of course) all the same. It is the universe at infinity that gets the entropy increase with the heat radiation. BHs… Read more »
SteveZodiac
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SteveZodiac
November 28, 2010 8:43 AM

So the Eddington limit results in a very stable situation, or does the condensation of the rotating dust disk into stars create stable orbits and starve the SMBH? Does this mean that active galaxies always turn into normal galaxies when that equilibrium is reached? More interesting though is LC’s comment about where the SMBH came from in the first place.

Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
November 28, 2010 8:48 AM
Not surprisingly, since evolution is a local hill climber, not an optimizing algorithm – it would take an infinite population infinite time to resolve a local maxima precisely. More precisely perhaps, in the face of the competing mechanism of near neutral drift, it would take that population to avoid drifting away entirely as it increases “signal” (sees smaller fitness) and suppresses “noise” (avoids stochastic drift fixation of alleles). I dunno if anyone have made a comparison of the two, to say what would happen. Probably not, because the result is that in practice evolution “makes do”, it is enough to be sufficiently fecund compared with (extinction and) competition. Oy vey, now I’m expanding on a parenthesis! I’ll take… Read more »
ProfMOZ
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ProfMOZ
November 28, 2010 9:21 AM

…to me it seems only logical that any (spiral) galaxy MUST have a black hole in its center… giving it the descriptive spiral design, derived from the “motor” in its midst.
It also seems logical to assume that an ‘unorganized’ galaxy or heap of stars does not have a black hole in its center. So-called old galaxies may have had a black hole in its center which became inactive…
I am not a scientist, but have been interested in astronomy and cosmology from a philosophical point of view. So forgive me for not being too scientific.

Lawrence B. Crowell
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Lawrence B. Crowell
November 28, 2010 9:31 AM
The effective heat capacity of spacetime is negative. This has several strange consequences. The temperature of a black hole T = hbar c^3/(8pi GMk), (hbar = unit of action, k = Boltzmann constant, G = gravitation constant, c = speed of light) decreases with the mass of the black hole, and the entropy S = A/4L_p^2, for A = 4pi R^2 and R = Schwarzschild radius = 2GM/c^3 increases with mass. This is the meaning of the negative heat capacity of spacetime. This is opposite of most standard thermodynamic systems that have zero entropy as t – -> 0. Quantum mechanically this mean if a black hole quantum radiates a unit of mass-energy in a boson &m then… Read more »
Jon Hanford
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Jon Hanford
November 28, 2010 11:30 AM
“…to me it seems only logical that any (spiral) galaxy MUST have a black hole in its center… giving it the descriptive spiral design, derived from the “motor” in its midst.” But we do know of many spiral galaxies that do not posses a central SMBH, even ones in a quiescent state. M 33, NGC 300 and NGC 5907 come to mind. But these three examples are also less massive and have a smaller or non-existent bulge component compared to the Milky Way or Andromeda galaxies (also, SMBHs are not thought to drive the formation of spiral arms). As you mentioned, irregular galaxies are not thought, in general, to contain SMBHs. Likewise with dwarf spheroidal, dwarf elliptical and… Read more »
Lawrence B. Crowell
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Lawrence B. Crowell
November 28, 2010 12:31 PM
As Jon points out, the SMHB is not a main driver of a galaxy structure and dynamics. The SMBH in the Milky ways is only 10e^6 times solar mass, and the galaxy has 3e^11 stars. So in our case the SMBH is not a main determinant of galactic dynamics. From what I understand there are some SMBHs that are in the 10-100 billion solar mass range, and there you might have serious galactic structure result from these. However, in any case around 70% of matter is still dark matter. I am not that familiar with the physics, but galactic arms are thought to arise from density waves. These are not at all determined by the SMBH, at least… Read more »
wjwbudro
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wjwbudro
November 28, 2010 1:50 PM

I’m surprised that the bar hasn’t had a mention in this discussion. Any speculation as to it’s relation to the SMBH dynamics?

Hannes
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Hannes
November 28, 2010 2:43 PM
Why is there a rule of conservation of momentum in this universe in the first place? [Not a stupid question, I hope ]. It think it all must have something to do with the original state of the universe, imho. One should make a study of the apparent increase of momentum in galaxy’s -regarding time, because : – Our early universe does not show a preferred type of distribution of stars. – Our lately universe does have a preferred type of distribution. SPIRAL galaxy’s are the preferred type. Not ellipticals. This should have to do with the mechanism involved. [Hello Big Bang, are you involved somehow !? ] What does a “SMBH” accomplish exactly, apart from showing a… Read more »
Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
November 29, 2010 12:00 AM
You can find stable celestial geometries (e.g. globular clusters) that don’t need a central massive object. An SMBH does not have enough gravity to significantly influence the large scale structure of a galaxy. Yes, but it seems to affect star production (when it is there), doesn’t it? Stevezodiac: where the SMBH came from in the first place. It *is* puzzling. To assume a “pre-inflationary universe” as LC does is an unnecessary and unsupported model assumption. We can strictly assume, for the time being, that there are no BHs around when inflation stops in standard inflationary cosmology, as LC notes. But neither were galaxies. I harken to the idea that galaxy formation and SMBH formation is somehow connected, even… Read more »
Torbjorn Larsson OM
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Torbjorn Larsson OM
November 29, 2010 12:01 AM

“despite appears” := stupid dictionary routine supervised by stupid user.

damian
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November 29, 2010 12:44 AM
@ Torbjorn Larsson OM Regarding my Entropy conjecture. I keep getting my disciplines mixed up. In information Technology, entropy is often confused in its terminology. Kolmogorov complexity or or algorithmic entropy can be applied to Theories centered around Complex Adaptive Systems. Which a galaxy can be defined as. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_adaptive_system That said, if the rules apply in information technology, then why not in cosmology. Anyway, I wish someone comes up with a theory for why simple hydrogen in interstellar space turns into complex systems like galaxies, suns, planets and ultimately biological sentience. Schroedinger proposed Negentropy, but i think it was a work of fiction. This is where I get my energy efficiency. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negentropy Just to keep on topic, this… Read more »
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