Image from the STS-80 shuttle mission. Taken from: AboveTopSecret

The Truth About NASA’s UFO Videos

1 Jun , 2009 by

Perusing You Tube, there are lots of UFO videos, which are usually grainy, shaky videos showing nothing that can be proved definitively. But there are a couple of videos that are different — and have generated a lot of interest — because they were filmed by NASA astronauts during space missions.

I’d like to recommend everyone read an article published today by Popular Mechanics where the astronauts who were behind the camera for two of these videos speak out about what is actually in the videos, and NASA’s supposed “cover-up.” The two astronauts, Tom Jones and Mario Runco “reveal” what the videos are really showing.

“There’s no way to keep people from using public domain footage for silly purposes,” former astronaut Tom Jones says in the article. “If a shuttle beams back 10 hours of Earth views each day, there are bound to be images and scenes that are misunderstood or taken out of context.”

And “out of context” is what many UFO theories and proponents rely on, says writer Erik Sofge. And NASA tends to never make official statements debunking any of the UFO claims, which helps fuel the flames. One clip, taken by Runco is of the PAM-STU satellite that Runco and his crew deployed during the STS-77 mission in 1996, outfitted with reflective materials. During the entire clip, however, Runco or mission control never says exactly what they are filming, but keep referring to it as “the target,” typical for pilots and NASA astronauts. There are other oddities about the clip, with lights moving in the background, but Runco says the lights are likely to be stars.

Another clip, taken by Jones is simply “ice crystals or flakes of thruster residue in the near field are floating by, get hit by a thruster exhaust plume and zip out of the scene,” Jones said.

It’s one thing to believe that alien life is a statistical likelihood, and quite another to interpret lights in the sky as intergalactic contact. Check out the great article, and kudos to Jones and Runco for speaking out.

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HelloBozos
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June 1, 2009 11:35 AM

opps, i have some ufo videos on youtube too..heh..http://www.youtube.com/user/YoudSayOmg

Silver Thread
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Silver Thread
June 1, 2009 12:41 PM

You know…in a perverse way I suppose U.F.O. fanatics are actually useful in keeping space exploration in the public view, on some level at least. It helps to keep people thinking about what lies beyond out borders and in a way it may help stimulate interest in space exploration.

Granted I am compelled personally to think it’s a bit unrealistic that we’re being visited by extraterrestrials, but if such shenanigans inspire those who are on the fence who knows what potential good may come of it. I can’t imagine a lot of people are duped into actually believing the footage to be real anyhow.

aspaceyguy
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aspaceyguy
June 1, 2009 4:38 PM
I’ll say Nancy makes some good points and certainly there seems to always be the fringe that leaps to conclusions while nonetheless showing an enthusiasm for the subject in general. That said, there certainly IS some anomalous activity that has been observed and I find the tendency of some to just out right avoid those examples and/or simply skip over them while poopooing the “ufo fanatics” for their poor connecting of the dots, to be just a tad inappropriate. ok so there must be a decent way to reign in the gang who are a little over the top in the UFO club, but ‘please’, I have seen some authentic footage of the Tether Experiment and I am… Read more »
eewindsor
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June 1, 2009 8:22 PM

Alright, we’re not all stupid. I was a Xerox digital repro tech and trainer. I have scrutinized nearly a thousand NASA photos and videos for skew, resolution, contrast, hue and scale. They are all altered photos, ostensibly to CONCEAL DETAILS. NASA text differs from the photos that they publish; and that is a FACT.

Surak
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Surak
June 1, 2009 9:12 PM

I never thought I’d see the day.

Someone recommended reading Popular Mechanics.

@ eewindsor

Just like you, I’ve done a whole bunch of stuff that I won’t substantiate with any proof too! and I say you’re wrong … and that is a FACT.

davidjames
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davidjames
June 2, 2009 1:45 AM

One of the worst de bunking articles I’ve ever read. What a load of garbage, why did you bother? Your score – 1/10

damian
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June 2, 2009 5:36 AM

Until the UFO’s identify themselves by landing in a populated city, grabbing a bite and chewing the fat with us humans about space weather these days. Its all just blurry garbage.

Wanting it to be real is does not mean it actually is real. Sadly.

Does make for some good fiction however, keeping it believable adds credibility to our films and books.

Keep up the good work. smile

Damian K

benfmv
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benfmv
June 2, 2009 6:52 AM

In the 16th century sailors would cover their heads when they saw St Elmo’s fire. This image always comes to my mind when I hear conspiracy theorists.

A thousand evidence could be brought right in front of their noses they’d always smell something fishy.

Sigh.

mar
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mar
June 2, 2009 8:11 AM
Sadly humanity can not see up under their noses. Sadly most humans can not seem to do a lick of study for themselves nor see things that are a fact when they are right under their noses. Also sadly this world is full of ignorant people, just a Sigmund Freud had said.I have listened to many who have went through the Rosell incident. OMG UFO CONSPIRACY!!! Guess what peeps. They do exist. Anyone that honestly thinks we are the only beings in this galaxy alone is a moron.let alone the whole dam universe. OH thats right CONSPIRACY!! Every dam rebuttle i have heard is that everyone is conspiring against the governments or non believers supposed truths. Well guess… Read more »
lomitus
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lomitus
June 2, 2009 8:14 AM
I don’t think the question is “is NASA covering something up”…they’re a government agency, it’s a safe bet they are covering -something- up somewhere for whatever reasons. As far as government agencies go, I would like to believe that NASA is more forth coming than most though. That said, I think the issue that most conspiracy theorists and UFO fanatics tend to over-look is the simple common sense of all of this…after all, common sense isn’t always all that common. “The universe is a BIG place…really big” (read some Douglas Adams for the rest of that quote if you’re not already familiar with it). Now assuming that faster-than-light travel is possible…which hasn’t been proven…the first obvious question should… Read more »
Jim Krug
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Jim Krug
June 2, 2009 9:06 AM
2 quick things: 1. I believe I know what images the astronauts are referring to when they talk about “ice crystals zipping by”. However, I read some research where an author actually looked into that further, and found that the Shuttle’s cameras were simply trained on “infinity” at those times, as they apparently usually are when they aren’t photographing something specific. And if the cameras are trained on infinity, it would be impossible for them to focus on ice crystals close to the ship. 2. Even if you visit NASA’s own Moon map website, you can find pieces of terrain that appear utterly cropped in, not resembling any terrain around them. On the surface, it appears to be… Read more »
Jim Krug
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Jim Krug
June 2, 2009 9:09 AM

“UFO proponents tend to dismiss official responses from members of NASA, the Pentagon or any other government agency, but Runco says that even if there was an active coverup, no amount of coercion could prevent an astronaut—himself included—from laying claim to a confirmed sighting of an alien spaceship.”

This is just incredibly shoddy journalism on the Popular Mechanics’ authors part. He apparently discounts of the testimony of NASA astronauts that admitted to seeing flying saucers themselves, with John Glenn the most noteworthy among them.

Any time I see something that poorly researched- basically turning a blind eye to all of the facts in order to make a piece sound more compelling- it loses a lot of credibility with me.

JIm

ND
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ND
June 2, 2009 11:21 AM

Jim Krug,

Flying saucer or UFO? not the same. When did he say this?

ND
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ND
June 2, 2009 11:25 AM

Jim Krug,

“2. Even if you visit NASA’s own Moon map website, you can find pieces of terrain that appear utterly cropped in, not resembling any terrain around them. On the surface, it appears to be a rather sloppy coverup of structures on the Moon.”

That sounds like stitching of smaller images from satellites to make a larger image of the moon. Images may not always match up at their edges. This does not even in the slightest imply a coverup of something on the moon! I’ll have to checkout the moon map site for myself.

aspaceyguy
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aspaceyguy
June 2, 2009 11:47 AM
While I agree, this article gets a 1 out of 10 as a debunk, I do appreciate the comments it draws out. Good stuff. lomitus: makes some good really points, but I must say in general that I find the phrase so often used “yet to be proven” a lame dismissal. Yet to be proven by who? Yet to be proven in what way? Heck most of the so called general public is not ‘smarter than a fifth grader’. So who requires what to be proven? It is becoming almost absurdly laughable that there are still ardent deniers at this stage. What internet are some of you looking at? The evidence in various forms is literally piling up… Read more »
ND
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ND
June 2, 2009 12:10 PM

aspaceyguy,

What exactly did your father see of the UFO? was it on his radar? did he make visual contact?

yuefo
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yuefo
June 2, 2009 1:13 PM

Well, I read the “great article.” Your standards are as low as Popular Mechanics. The PM article is classic straw man. I’d love to see a debunking of the Tether incident. “Ice crystals” don’t generally pulse rythmically, nor do they make complete direction changes in the vacuum of space.

Andy F
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June 2, 2009 1:46 PM

The problem with UFO claims is that the evidence is always poor. Where are the hi-res photos and video of UFOs taken by members of the public? Where are pieces of non-terrestrial alloys and spacecraft or the alien bodies?

A couple of pieces of good evidence of UFOs, such as an alien artifact, decent photos or alien bodies in would put an end to decades of speculation. The lack of any such evidence means that we should all be sceptical about such claims.

Dark Gnat
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Dark Gnat
June 2, 2009 2:17 PM
The NASA videos are a clear example of people’s imagination getting the better of them. “OMG that spaceship barely dodged a weapon hit!” Strangely, even though I can step outside every night and see satillites for a couple of hours after sunset, I’ve never see any space battles. No one else has either. More than likely, the objects “flying” around are simply micrometeors and debris. I’m betting that the sudden increase in velocity is due to the camera moving relative to the objects. In videos such as this, it is nearly impossible to judge distance, and therefore size, so the “UFOs” could just as easily be specs of dust. People see what they want to see. They will… Read more »
aspaceyguy
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aspaceyguy
June 2, 2009 4:29 PM
ND: Thanks for your reply. This is probably not the best venue to tell his story, but to counter the assanine remarks that seem to continuously ignore the reputations and credentials of the more public disclosers , I’ll give a little. They were on routine cold war patrol and if I recall they picked up the ‘ufo’ briefly via their onboard radar. They were not at a distance to acquire visual. Ground radar got nothing and couldn’t find it..at all. My Father was flying a CF-100 all weather interceptor/fighter with a Navigator. The Navigator could not acquire the ‘ufo’ via automatic radar. He could only keep the ‘ufo’ locked manually. They had the means to actually manually direct… Read more »
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