Orbiting Carbon Observatory Launch Failure

Oh and it didn’t “land in the Ocean,” yes, it crashed… unless of course they though a parachute might come in handy, just in case there might be a s-l-i-g-h-t possibility based on experience.

Why not use a recent shuttle launch to unlock fairings as a repair feature.

Crumb said, “bla bla bla bla.”

Please note that I did not dispute or even mention any of your claims. I’m just tired of your anti-Americanism, and I hope many others who monitor these posts are too. Statements like “more junk place (sic) in orbit,” and many others contradict your claim that you don’t hold a “position of someone with a anti-U.S. stance.”

Error; “Simply. if you don’t like it the don’t read it!
Again thanks for your riveting views that continue directed to the topic at hand.”
Should read.
“Simply. if you don’t like it then don’t read it!
Again thanks for your riveting views that continue to be directed to the topic at hand.”
Apologies.

RetardedFishFrog Said:
February 26th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
“The problem with your anti-Americanism is that you present a one-sided view and never – as far as I can remember – point out anything positive about the U.S.”

I’m thinking, I’m thinking…
Nope, sorry, can’t think of anything very positive at the moment… I’ll get back to you.

As to negativism, well it isn’t a crime.

My own opinion is that the U.S. is grossly insensitive in the way it wallows in its presumed superiority and unwilling to see other points of view.
Climate change here is a classic example, as I highlighted through my comments. The United States point-blank is unwilling to join the rest of the world in combating climate change. The obnoxious attitude for those willing to even considering – is that we do it our way or no way.
Meanwhile, beyond your obstinate little country, the rest of the world is seeing the environment change. I.e. Rapid melting polar caps, aridity of once large tracts of productive lands, flooding increasing in countries like Bangladesh or of the Pacific islands soon to be wiped out by rising sea levels, rising sea temperatures, increased beach erosion, etc, etc.
Worst is how the stuffed U.S. economy has literally imploded, basically created from the greed and avarice manifested and created from U.S. based companies and reckless lending habits of the banks, feeding the unending and unsustainable consumption demands of its own population. This has plunged the rest of the world into financial chaos, affecting livelihoods and many individual’s own futures. (Yet all we hear is it is not our problem and it is not the United States fault.)
In my view the only way to wake up dunderheads like you, whose own narrow insular view of the world is the problem – with the common attitude we can do what we like when we like – and damn the consequences.
As to your assumptive opinion; “And the positives far outweigh the negatives”, have you ever considered that the media more often than not only reports negative views. You have only to watch the nightly news to see it relies on negativity and portrayed violence and suffering just so the audience will watch it. IMO, at least from my point of view, “The positives and negatives are almost in balance.”
Perhaps there is “a one-sided and unrealistic perception of the U.S.”, but I think you could seriously consider that the ones who are generating the angst are actually yourselves. In the end, the truth why those outside the U.S.A. somewhat despises your government and people is the way you do things and your lack of mutual respect towards “the rest of us.”

All this may have little to do with some failed satellite thrown in to a distant ocean, but the general attitude behind its final demise is the endemic problems the United States faces. The fact of the matter is, yes, some are happy with the satellites failure – most by people who place profits above the environment.
I think that this both answers your questions and gives you some perspective on my views – however misguided you think they are.

RetardedFishFrog want something positive.

We one of the positive things the U.S. is holding a Symposium in a few weeks (3rd March 2009) the “U.S. Climate Action : A global economic perspective” at the Senate Hart Building, Washington D.C.

It purpose and aim being;
“A Global Economic Perspective will be held to explore the options for tackling the causes and consequences of climate change, and to examine the costs and benefits of domestic and international action. It will also high light the progress major emitters, particularly China, are making to tackle climate change and discuss how US and international action can together work towards an effective, efficient and equitable global deal on climate change at Copenhagen”
(See http://www.usclimatesymposium.com/ )

It is interesting that on-line news service “The Nation” on 25th February, under the title “A Global Green Deal” by Mark Hertsgaard, admitted;
“The United States and China together account for 40 percent of global emissions, making them climate superpowers: if they do not cut emissions, it won’t matter how much other nations reduce”

Partularly, the same article reported;
“Under the circumstances, there is no substitute for fresh thinking and intense public pressure, both of which will be brought to bear in the run-up to Copenhagen. “I can’t understand why there aren’t rings of young people blocking bulldozers and preventing them from constructing coal-fired power plants,” Al Gore said in 2007. On March 2, Gore will get his wish. James Hansen of NASA, America’s foremost climate scientist, will join hundreds of activists, many of them college students with the Power Shift climate movement, in an act of civil disobedience outside the coal plant that powers the US Capitol. Hansen has argued that preventing catastrophic climate change requires an end to new coal plants; now he will get arrested to make that point. “If there are young people sticking their necks out, how can old geezers who caused their problem hang back?”

He concludes in this article;
“It requires fundamental changes in where government money goes, including taking billions of dollars away from some of the most powerful lobbies and corporations in the country, above all the oil and coal industries. Obama promised to change how politics is done in Washington, but does he have the stomach for this? We’ll see.”

At least here is the glimmer if hope that the U.S. finally seems willing to try and catch-up. The rest of us hope it becomes reality.

(Interestingly, data from the OCO was to be announced at this meeting, but obviously won’t be happening. I wonder if there was any political pressure involved with the launch date that might have contributed to the system failure.)

RetardedFishFrog Says:
“You need some eye opening.”
No thanks, I’ve seen enough already to realise that the path to the world’s future lies along a different path. Really, the best thing about the rest of the world at the moment, is we now know what to avoid.

Crumb said “No thanks, bla bla bla…”

That’s exactly what I expected – a typical response from an angry, closed minded person.

And by the way, brevity is the soul of wit, not pompous bombasity.

“someone” said;
“Get over it, how many rockets have gone in the drink since we began “littering” space?”

Agreed, but please do it in your own backyard and hemisphere. Most in my end of the world would appreciate that you stop using just as a dumping ground for your mistakes and unwanted rubbish.