If We Live in a Multiverse, How Many Are There?

by Nancy Atkinson on October 15, 2009

Artist concept of the cyclic universe.

Artist concept of the cyclic universe.


Theoretical physics has brought us the notion that our single universe is not necessarily the only game in town. Satellite data from WMAP, along with string theory and its 11- dimensional hyperspace idea has produced the concept of the multiverse, where the Big Bang could have produced many different universes instead of a single uniform universe. The idea has gained popularity recently, so it was only a matter of time until someone asked the question of how many multiverses could possibly exist. The number, according to two physicists, could be “humongous.”

Andrei Linde and Vitaly Vanchurin at Stanford University in California, did a few back-of- the- envelope calculations, starting with the idea that the Big Bang was essentially a quantum process which generated quantum fluctuations in the state of the early universe. The universe then underwent a period of rapid growth called inflation during which these perturbations were “frozen,” creating different initial classical conditions in different parts of the cosmos. Since each of these regions would have a different set of laws of low energy physics, they can be thought of as different universes.

Linde and Vanchurin then estimated how many different universes could have appeared as a result of this effect. Their answer is that this number must be proportional to the effect that caused the perturbations in the first place, a process called slow roll inflation, — the solution Linde came up with previously to answer the problem of the bubbles of universes colliding in the early inflation period. In this model, inflation occurred from a scalar field rolling down a potential energy hill. When the field rolls very slowly compared to the expansion of the universe, inflation occurs and collisions end up being rare.

Using all of this (and more – see their paper here) Linde and Vanchurin calculate that the number of universes in the multiverse and could be at least 10^10^10^7, a number which is definitely “humungous,” as they described it.

The next question, then, is how many universes could we actually see? Linde and Vanchurin say they had to invoke the Bekenstein limit, where the properties of the observer become an important factor because of a limit to the amount of information that can be contained within any given volume of space, and by the limits of the human brain.

The total amount of information that can be absorbed by one individual during a lifetime is about 10^16 bits. So a typical human brain can have 10^10^16 configurations and so could never distinguish more than that number of different universes.

The number of multiverses the human brain could distinguish. Credit: Linde and Vanchurin

The number of multiverses the human brain could distinguish. Credit: Linde and Vanchurin

“So, the total number of possibilities accessible to any given observer is limited not only by the entropy of perturbations of metric produced by inflation and by the size of the cosmological horizon, but also by the number of degrees of freedom of an observer,” the physicists write.

“We have found that the strongest limit on the number of different locally distinguishable geometries is determined mostly by our abilities to distinguish between different universes and to remember our results,” wrote Linde and Vanchurin. “Potentially it may become very important that when we analyze the probability of existencse of a universe of a given type, we should be talking about a consistent pair: the universe and an observer who makes the rest of the universe “alive” and the wave function of the rest of the universe time-dependant.”

So their conclusion is that the limit does not depend on the properties of the multiverse itself, but on the properties of the observer.

They hope to further study this concept to see if this probability if proportional to the observable entropy of inflation.

Sources: ArXiv, Technology Review Blog


  • DrFlimmer

    These are all metaphysical and almost philosophical questions, and don’t relate to anything that can be tested physically in the future. At least, this is my opinion.
    IIRC there was a cold spot in the WMAP data which some people interpreted as a sign of a parallel universe. There was a story here on UT recently that showed that it was a statistical artifact due to the analyses process. Changing that process and the cold spot disappeared, and so was the parallel universe.

    It is just a matter of human imagination: What is easier to understand? A universe stretching from and to infinity in time or a universe that had a day with no yesterday and will face the Judgement Day (or all the possibilities in between)?

    @ LBC

    Beautiful put, indeed.
    What is easier here:
    = int_{-infty}^{infty} Psi* H Psi dr
    or
    dH/dq = -dp/dt

    (I just wanted to quote some formulae ;) )

  • gendou

    I fail to see the relevance of counting the number of configurations of the human brain.
    Whether typical human brains exist or not, the Universe is still there, with as many parallel histories as it happens to have.

    And besides, M-theory multiverse should NOT be confused with quantum multiverse (Many-worlds interpretation)!
    Don’t be confused by the word in common. They are as different as lemonade and lemon cars.
    M-theory speculations include surfaces containing separate spacetimes called branes which can interact.
    The Many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics describes objective reality as a wave function which doesn’t collapse.

  • Torbjorn Larsson OM

    I skimmed is paper the other day when it appeared on an arxiv aggregator, and I must say I have difficulties with it. (Well, aside from the technical ones, obviously! :-D )

    The authors go through a lot of possible ways of calculating the number of universes in eternal inflation, but all along from the perspective of an observer having access to worldlines that are boundedly related by an initial condition. [I should say "chaotic inflation" since it's Linde's paper but I prefer the more general term.]

    Now, IIRC it is Linde himself who has pointed out that one can push infimum of worldlines unboundedly back, making the process physically “eternal” in both directions. Or, while it is highly improbable, it is possible the process started off close to its fixed point. In either case you wouldn’t pose the restrictions Linde et al does.

    It is but in the end of the paper that the authors insert an argument based on the wavefunction of the universe to cut off the putatively massive set of backwards eternal multiverses (if you imagine an ensemble of them) and confine their observers to the asymmetric case.

    And there they partly lost me, because I don’t think this additional assumption is useful for full falsifiability. That is, if they derive the wished for proportionality for testing and the test fails, they haven’t eliminated the possibility of the symmetric case.

    But at least it’s a test, so I applaud their efforts.

    [Personally (IANA Cosmologist) I think the symmetric case is the more likely one, because one can then understand cosmological time as the over all broken symmetry of volume expansion/contraction.

    Hmm, I haven't studied Noether's work, but I have a feeling that a global (broken) symmetry doesn't imply a charge. (Heh! A "time charge"?! The energy of the universe is zero - or at least that is what Linde et al claim when they use the wavefunction of the universe.)

    So it would work, I think. But I dunno how you would understand the origin of the asymmetry of the other case in a similar manner.]

    One nitpick on the timely and excellent article though.

    The illustration is probably of Smolin’s “fecund universe” (it’s not really legible), which is a rather different idea. And a failed one at that I believe, I don’t think black holes are considered “white hole” originators today, nor do I think “white holes” as such are considered likely.

    I realize that it is hard to find nice illustrations, but maybe it is time to whip up one of eternal inflation instead of the joke (AFAIU) Smolin’s ideas?

  • Torbjorn Larsson OM

    As a side note, I find it hilarious that so many people in general and here protest and/or claim that these ensembles of solutions for cosmologies of inflationary universes are untestable. It is likely because they are about universes instead of, say, ensembles of solutions for potentials of charged bodies.

    Especially when the authors present potential tests.

    This sort of “news” is tiresome. It is NOT science,

    Well, the paper beg to differ if you had made the effort to read it, as they present a pathway to a test. It may or may not be possible. And you would also have seen that if you had actually read the post above, as it sums up the proposed test.

    But it would be science anyway, as Jorge so eloquently describes. It is only if you can derive and test the possibility that no test is derivable from any of the inflationary cosmologies that you can say that it will never be science. And to date no one has been able to do that.

  • Torbjorn Larsson OM

    @ Lawrence B. Cromwell:

    But when it comes to the “why MWI?” I don’t get it. There are people who go googoo over Bohm’s interpretation as well — again I don’t get it. You can’t test these ideas! They are not effective.

    I would say the same as for multiverse cosmologies, you have yet to derive and test that prediction (of untestability) from the theory. A tall order, I’m sure.

    As for “why MWI” I would say that one reason is that it is the most parsimonious theory (two less assumptions), another is that it takes contrafactual definiteness seriously and makes it explicit AFAIU (as opposed to, say, the classical Copenhagen interpretation), and yet another is that it relies on decoherence.

    As decoherence has been successfully tested for, it has passed one test. Of course, so has the other similar theories. But the field has narrowed and in the spirit of testability we are obliged to take the remaining theories more seriously.

    If MWI would turn out to be the wrong theory I wouldn’t loose any sleep over it, any more than other theories. But I think it is a serious mistake to dismiss it as a mere “interpretation”, especially after decoherence was observed. We don’t speak of “interpretation” elsewhere, it is a parochial and non-scientific description.

    On another note, I think the description of MWI as that it “splits off” copies is parochial as well, especially considering your personal definition of “universe”. AFAIU what happens is that parts of the same universe decompose into parts which may or may not be interfering with each other. (But often into mutually entangled states, which won’t interfere.) These “worlds” are analogous to bubble universes embedded in an eternal inflation multiverse structure.

  • sail4evr

    why should there be a limit on the number of universes any more than there is no limit on prime numbers or no end to pi.

  • Lawrence B. Crowell

    The paper “How many universes are in the multiverse?” by Andrei Linde, Vitaly Vanchurin:

    http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0910/0910.1589v1.pdf

    involves pocket universe logic. The paper discusses the number of local FRW regions which are determined by the value of the scalar field of inflation in local regions. The estimate given here involves counting of modes for N e-folds. An e-fold is the number of volume increases due to de Sitter exponential expansion. So the estimate is somewhat reasonable.

    The pocket universe model is a bit odd, for it proposes there are regions of high scalar field density on a space which topologically (causally) disconnects regions by S-matrix domains of support. I might as well consider a toy model to make a point about the pocket universe. The universe may well have emerged from some sort of quantum fluctuation. An easy model for this is a virtual wormhole. Inside the regions which connect up there exists a three-ball of space, and the wormhole junction results in a topological suturing of these two 3-balls into a three sphere. Now assume that inflation takes place by puncturing a hole in the three ball. This point or the boundary is removed “to infinity” from the perspective of the antipodal point and the space is converted to R^3 plus pt. If we consider the “reciprocal” of this space with r –> 1/r the point that is removed is a singularity or in complex variables (complexified coordinates) a pole. An integration around this point of field propagators might then result in a branch point which connects this R^3 to other R^3 surfaces — similar to Riemann sheets. For various reasons I find this to be a more aesthetic picture of what might be called the multi-verse.

    So this would I think clean up some of the issues with pocket universes. This preserves the basic idea of e-fold statistics on how inflaton fields “hop,” but might prevent what I see as offensive boundary issues. The statistics have some bearing on the cosmological constant and the entropy of the universe. In fact if you are at all savy on matters of cosmology, there are relationships between the cosmological constant and the vacuum energy of the universe and its entropy. So there may be some observational support which could be given to this type of cosmology.

    LC

  • Torbjorn Larsson OM

    Oh, and a final correction. I know that you probably didn’t mean it, but Bohm’s theory is both falsifiable and falsified. It is a non-local theory, so it fails at relativity (i.e. Lorentz invariance).

    Or it should, if it hadn’t been non-relativistic in the first place…

  • Lawrence B. Crowell

    Bohm’s quantum interpretation or “theory” works in relativity, or at least you can work up a Bohmian Klein-Gordon theory or even Dirac theory. If works in a free field case. Where it has trouble is with the coupling of particles in a relativistic setting and the production of particles, and even worse if there is a mass-gap. It does not have a ladder structure where the a and a-dagger operators generate discrete states of photons or other particles.

    MWI can be dispensed with, as frankly can all so called quantum interpretations. I would say that the best approach to these matters is Zurek’s decoherence and einselection work, which has a minimum of the sorts of metaphysics that other interpretations invoke.

    LC

  • mmfiore

    I agree with Mason Kelsey this article while very interesting, is pure speculation. While I think that it is important to keep an open mind we should take articles such as this with a grain of salt. The entire concept of Multiverses at this point relies Quantum Theory which relies on probability for the basis of its arguments. I think people are beginning to tire of hearing about the possibility of this and the possibility of that. After awhile according to QM everything that anyone can concieve of is possible. This is NOT the way the Universe works in the observable macroscopic world. That is why I suggest an alternative to Quantum Mechanics. Someone has got to to do it else we will be stuck in this fundametally flawed paradigm indefinitely.

    Einstein was right about the shortcomings of Quantum Mechanics and so therefore String Theory is also the incorrect approach. As an alternative to Quantum Theory there is a new theory that describes and explains the mysteries of physical reality. While not disrespecting the value of Quantum Mechanics as a tool to explain the role
    of quanta in our universe. This theory states that there is also a classical explanation for the paradoxes such as EPR and the Wave-Particle Duality. The Theory is called the Theory of Super Relativity.
    This theory is a philosophical attempt to reconnect the physical universe to realism and deterministic concepts. It explains the mysterious.

  • DrFlimmer

    @ mmfiore:

    No physicist in the whole world will abandon quantum mechanics due to philosophical reasons. It’s predictions have come true with an unheard-of precision. It is the newest of the “big” physical theories but it is the one theory that is checked and tested best. Even better than GR, which is also tested rather well.
    Quantum mechanics describe the reality – no doubt about that.

  • Lawrence B. Crowell

    There are many people who are convinced of this as well. So far quantum mechanics has resisted these efforts, from Bell’s inequalities and Kochen-Specker theorem, to the Aspect experiments. Quantum nonlocality and the existence of entanglements simply appear to exist on their own with no “realism” substratum.

    It might be worth my pointing out that 20 years ago I worked out and wrote on how general relativity when worked as a Schild’s ladder and the spin entanglement system of quantum mechanics has the same Galois algebraic representation GF(4), which is also the root space for the SO(8) group. So quantum mechanics and general relativity at least within this “partial functor” are equivalent, and might ultimately prove to be two aspects of an identical system. The system for GF(4) is the hexacode error correction code C_6, and it is possible that extended quantum error correction codes might embed both gravitation and quantum mechanics as different aspects of a single structure.

    Cheers LC

  • Lawrence B. Crowell

    I second Dr Flimmer’s post here. My post above we directed at mmfiore. Quantum physics is a highly robust theory of particles and fields, and attempts to reduce it to “rational mechanics” so that nonlocality is some derived result of locality have failed. Bell’s theorem and other related results give a negative verdict on any possibility of doing so.

    LC

  • Manu

    Yes.

    mmfiore, get your facts right.
    EPR is not a paradox (although originally conceived as one), it’s a reproducible experimental fact.
    Wave-Particle Duality has been abandoned as a concept for 50 years. Think quantum fields.

  • ND

    “This theory is a philosophical attempt …”

    say what?! How does that work?

  • microverses

    @ Jorge – Who’s an idiot? ME! I have to apologize to you – I am so used to seeing small remarks and then being led down that path of ‘let’s discredit this method of thinking things through in this manner’, it’s tiresome.

    My bad 100%. You have taught me a lesson, not to allow myself to assume, which is something I try to avoid and have obviously failed here.

    I’m really sorry man. Please forgive me.

  • Anaconda

    @ Dr Flimmer:

    Dr Flimmer wrote: What is easier to understand? A universe stretching from and to infinity in time or a universe that had a day with no yesterday and will face the Judgement Day (or all the possibilities in between)?”

    How about simply saying Man is not privileged to know how the Universe started or how it will end, or how far it stretches.

    There are some things Man will never know — pretending otherwise is a disservice to Science and potentially dangerous if elements of Science get locked into a serious defense of this kind of gobbledygook.

  • Lawrence B. Crowell

    Anaconda offers up a council of despair.

    LC

  • Anaconda

    No, just a sober realization of Man’s limitation.

    Crowel, are locked into a serious defense of this gobbledygook?

    Judging from the length of your responses, I would say you are.

    Professional back scratching…

  • ND

    “No, just a sober realization of Man’s limitation.”

    Great opening to make fun of Anaconda. Just sayin’ :)

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