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> <channel><title>Comments on: Suborbital Could Be &#039;Next Big Thing&#039; for Space Science</title> <atom:link href="http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/</link> <description>Space and astronomy news</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:02:58 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73280</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:10:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73280</guid> <description>LC,  that sounds like an excellent idea for a low cost, suborbital mission(and pretty cool, to boot). Advances in electronics now make microsatellites and miniaturized detectors to become a reality. Nothing against commercial entrepreneurs, but hardware to explore this region of the exosphere already exists.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LC,  that sounds like an excellent idea for a low cost, suborbital mission(and pretty cool, to boot). Advances in electronics now make microsatellites and miniaturized detectors to become a reality. Nothing against commercial entrepreneurs, but hardware to explore this region of the exosphere already exists.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73173</link> <dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:50:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73173</guid> <description>I have this idea for a WMAP type of probe that selects a number of very small solid angles of view into the CMB.  The intention is to get a sample of some of the fine grained anisotropy from some regions.  So pop a probe into suborbital space with a Black-Brant.  With decent gyroscopes it maintains a precise orientation for 5-10 minutes, gets the data and relays the data back to Earth.  You can get a payload up a lot higher and clearer of atmopheric effects.LC</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this idea for a WMAP type of probe that selects a number of very small solid angles of view into the CMB.  The intention is to get a sample of some of the fine grained anisotropy from some regions.  So pop a probe into suborbital space with a Black-Brant.  With decent gyroscopes it maintains a precise orientation for 5-10 minutes, gets the data and relays the data back to Earth.  You can get a payload up a lot higher and clearer of atmopheric effects.</p><p>LC</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73163</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:18:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73163</guid> <description>I share Crowell&#039;s concern about the wisdom of this approach. Small probes can be easily launched into the &#039;ignorosphere&#039;. Check out, for example, the Black Brant rocket: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Brant_rocket .</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share Crowell&#039;s concern about the wisdom of this approach. Small probes can be easily launched into the &#039;ignorosphere&#039;. Check out, for example, the Black Brant rocket: <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Brant_rocket" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Brant_rocket</a> .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73155</link> <dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:19:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73155</guid> <description>This amounts to a piloted sounding rocket.  I am not sure this is the most effective way to conduct short probe experiments.The business of space tourism is silly, and frankly almost destined to fail.  The Spaceship-1 or X-1 craft might fly a number of time, and then CRASH and space tourism is in the same status as the post-Challenger or post-Columbian shuttle program.LC</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This amounts to a piloted sounding rocket.  I am not sure this is the most effective way to conduct short probe experiments.</p><p>The business of space tourism is silly, and frankly almost destined to fail.  The Spaceship-1 or X-1 craft might fly a number of time, and then CRASH and space tourism is in the same status as the post-Challenger or post-Columbian shuttle program.</p><p>LC</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sili</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73152</link> <dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:39:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73152</guid> <description>Errr - yacht have, you know, &lt;em&gt;sails&lt;/em&gt;.And the point is to conserve &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; reducing the standard of living. How must traction would Gore have if he demanded we all live in earth pits and straw houses like a certain brand of hippie would?Gore is a very talented politician and as anyone should know &quot;politics is the art of the possible&quot;.Finally, it doesn&#039;t really matter what Gore does - except of course that if I thought you were actually right, it&#039;d set a bad example - conservation and decreased carbon emission is still the right thing to do.But, yeah, my initial thought was &quot;what&#039;ll the emissions be&quot;, too. I&#039;d certainly like to see some numbers. And it&#039;d be nice to see the corresponding numbers for the US/World carpool.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr &#8211; yacht have, you know, <em>sails</em>.</p><p>And the point is to conserve <em>without</em> reducing the standard of living. How must traction would Gore have if he demanded we all live in earth pits and straw houses like a certain brand of hippie would?</p><p>Gore is a very talented politician and as anyone should know &#034;politics is the art of the possible&#034;.</p><p>Finally, it doesn&#039;t really matter what Gore does &#8211; except of course that if I thought you were actually right, it&#039;d set a bad example &#8211; conservation and decreased carbon emission is still the right thing to do.</p><p>But, yeah, my initial thought was &#034;what&#039;ll the emissions be&#034;, too. I&#039;d certainly like to see some numbers. And it&#039;d be nice to see the corresponding numbers for the US/World carpool.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Maxwell</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73150</link> <dc:creator>Maxwell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73150</guid> <description>&quot;We all need to conserve except the rich&quot;That&#039;s what Al Gore implied from when he made Global warming into his political campaign tool.
You really thought they would give up mega yachts and exotic vacations to stop some starving kid in Brazil from drowning?
Its just so they can make even more money by selling new light bulbs and windmills to the masses (or maybe you thought GE sells those goods at a premium price out of the charity of its heart?).At least with suborbital and space development the rich are inadvertently paying for things that will benefit the rest of us.  Its more like a super rich man paying to find a cure for cancer just so he doesn&#039;t die from it.
To interrupt the constructive part of that process would be to the detriment of humanity.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;We all need to conserve except the rich&#034;</p><p>That&#039;s what Al Gore implied from when he made Global warming into his political campaign tool.<br
/> You really thought they would give up mega yachts and exotic vacations to stop some starving kid in Brazil from drowning?<br
/> Its just so they can make even more money by selling new light bulbs and windmills to the masses (or maybe you thought GE sells those goods at a premium price out of the charity of its heart?).</p><p>At least with suborbital and space development the rich are inadvertently paying for things that will benefit the rest of us.  Its more like a super rich man paying to find a cure for cancer just so he doesn&#039;t die from it.<br
/> To interrupt the constructive part of that process would be to the detriment of humanity.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Torbjorn Larsson OM</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73144</link> <dc:creator>Torbjorn Larsson OM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73144</guid> <description>This is a new market and a new industry, so conservation doesn&#039;t apply. That is what you can and will do with mature markets and techniques.I&#039;m not sure I understand the &quot;economy faltering&quot; part, as new markets helps the economy. And the rich-poor perspective is independent of the market, so that question is meaningless in a specific context.&lt;blockquote&gt;
How much carbon will ... add to the atmosphere?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Depends on the technique. Virgin will IIRC burn a rubber type material, but tries to go &quot;green&quot; - ideally you can make that from recyclable greens if you want. There are carbon free fuels as well.The real problem is that aerosols and ozone scavenging chemicals will be added. But not enough to make a climate impact, at a guess.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a new market and a new industry, so conservation doesn&#039;t apply. That is what you can and will do with mature markets and techniques.</p><p>I&#039;m not sure I understand the &#034;economy faltering&#034; part, as new markets helps the economy. And the rich-poor perspective is independent of the market, so that question is meaningless in a specific context.</p><blockquote><p> How much carbon will &#8230; add to the atmosphere?</p></blockquote><p>Depends on the technique. Virgin will IIRC burn a rubber type material, but tries to go &#034;green&#034; &#8211; ideally you can make that from recyclable greens if you want. There are carbon free fuels as well.</p><p>The real problem is that aerosols and ozone scavenging chemicals will be added. But not enough to make a climate impact, at a guess.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: FASTSIGNS_Geneva</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/12/suborbital-could-be-next-big-thing-for-space-science/comment-page-1/#comment-73135</link> <dc:creator>FASTSIGNS_Geneva</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:50:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=44798#comment-73135</guid> <description>How much carbon will the tourist joy ride part of this add to the atmosphere?With the world economy faultering and the taxes on working people going up will there be enough elite left to take these trips?With coventions in Las Vegas being portayed as wasteful and almost criminal how will these expensive short little trips to the edge of space be viewed by the poor?  It might be hard sell to those who can&#039;t afford bus fare to get to a minimum wage job.We all need to conserve except the rich.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much carbon will the tourist joy ride part of this add to the atmosphere?</p><p>With the world economy faultering and the taxes on working people going up will there be enough elite left to take these trips?</p><p>With coventions in Las Vegas being portayed as wasteful and almost criminal how will these expensive short little trips to the edge of space be viewed by the poor?  It might be hard sell to those who can&#039;t afford bus fare to get to a minimum wage job.</p><p>We all need to conserve except the rich.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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