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> <channel><title>Comments on: If You Don&#039;t Have an LHC, Here&#039;s How to Create Your Own Black Hole</title> <atom:link href="http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/</link> <description>Space and astronomy news</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:09:12 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70215</link> <dc:creator>Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:16:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70215</guid> <description>@ DrFlimmerNo, more like the anti-nova R CrB star!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DrFlimmer</p><p>No, more like the anti-nova R CrB star!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DrFlimmer</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70200</link> <dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70200</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You might have noticed again that he had disappeared as quickly as his outburst arrived. &lt;/blockquote&gt;So, actually, he is a Gamma Ray Burst?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You might have noticed again that he had disappeared as quickly as his outburst arrived.</p></blockquote><p>So, actually, he is a Gamma Ray Burst?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70188</link> <dc:creator>Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:55:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70188</guid> <description>I said it before, and I&#039;ll say it again.&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;B&gt;Anaconda squeals out loud when he thinks he knows something, then he runs away when his obvious flaws in his argument are completely exposed. Then he&#039;ll have the audacity to pretend it all wasn&#039;t true and continue on with the diatribe and claptrap again, and again and again. So really in the end he know absolutely nothing.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;You might have noticed again that he had disappeared as quickly as his outburst arrived. True to form, when the going gets tough he&#039;s out of here.So true to form, he just again shows the exact same learnt patterns of formulated behaviour. Yet he still wants to be treated as an intellectual &lt;B&gt;equal&lt;/B&gt;.Evidence therefore shows that he should be totally ignored or just promptly put in his place. Why bother to engage with someone who is eager to push an unfounded agenda on some radical personal theory which has little to do with reality?&lt;B&gt;In the end, I find the continuing sick joke is no longer funny!&lt;/B&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said it before, and I&#039;ll say it again.</p><blockquote><p><b>Anaconda squeals out loud when he thinks he knows something, then he runs away when his obvious flaws in his argument are completely exposed. Then he&#039;ll have the audacity to pretend it all wasn&#039;t true and continue on with the diatribe and claptrap again, and again and again. So really in the end he know absolutely nothing.</b></p></blockquote><p>You might have noticed again that he had disappeared as quickly as his outburst arrived. True to form, when the going gets tough he&#039;s out of here.</p><p>So true to form, he just again shows the exact same learnt patterns of formulated behaviour. Yet he still wants to be treated as an intellectual <b>equal</b>.</p><p>Evidence therefore shows that he should be totally ignored or just promptly put in his place. Why bother to engage with someone who is eager to push an unfounded agenda on some radical personal theory which has little to do with reality?</p><p><b>In the end, I find the continuing sick joke is no longer funny!</b></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Zymyne</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70152</link> <dc:creator>Zymyne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:57:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70152</guid> <description>You people get some strange people on your websites like Anaconda here and Mega Christ over here it is so humerous to see you all argue.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people get some strange people on your websites like Anaconda here and Mega Christ over here it is so humerous to see you all argue.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DrFlimmer</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70141</link> <dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:36:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70141</guid> <description>@ Jon Hanford:You are most welcome ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jon Hanford:</p><p>You are most welcome <img
src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ND</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70137</link> <dc:creator>ND</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:13:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70137</guid> <description>I don&#039;t think Anaconda knows what mathematics is to begin with.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think Anaconda knows what mathematics is to begin with.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70122</link> <dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:06:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70122</guid> <description>The closest BH identified is 1Kpc, or 32600 ly, away.  I hold this distant hope that a single &quot;rogue&quot; black hole passes within .1Ly of our solar system in the next century.  Maybe a probe could be sent to make close measurements.The written objection to black holes is that the event horizon is a barrier to observation.  We are not able to observe deeper than the radius r = 2GM/c^2.  All we can do is observe the physical effects of the extreme gravity or tidal forces associated with a black hole.  We might be capable of doing particle physics which produces quantum black holes.  There particle amplitudes or channels will exhibit entanglement physics between exterior and interior states.  Some data from RHIC suggests small amplitudes for black holes, called fire balls,  as seen in the paper &quot;AdS-CFT and the RHIC fireball,&quot; Horatiu Nastase,arXiv:0805.3579v1.So there are indirect ways in which we can detect black holes, certaintly astrophysically and some indication they may play a quantum role in particle physics.It is like evolution in a way.  We can&#039;t observe the huge evolutionary history Earth.  There are no time machines, and we can only observe in our short time frames small incremental evolutionary processes.  Creationsists object that scientists can&#039;t produce direct evidence, and they will persist in that.  Objections to black holes have a similar quality to them.LC</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The closest BH identified is 1Kpc, or 32600 ly, away.  I hold this distant hope that a single &#034;rogue&#034; black hole passes within .1Ly of our solar system in the next century.  Maybe a probe could be sent to make close measurements.</p><p>The written objection to black holes is that the event horizon is a barrier to observation.  We are not able to observe deeper than the radius r = 2GM/c^2.  All we can do is observe the physical effects of the extreme gravity or tidal forces associated with a black hole.  We might be capable of doing particle physics which produces quantum black holes.  There particle amplitudes or channels will exhibit entanglement physics between exterior and interior states.  Some data from RHIC suggests small amplitudes for black holes, called fire balls,  as seen in the paper &#034;AdS-CFT and the RHIC fireball,&#034; Horatiu Nastase,</p><p>arXiv:0805.3579v1.</p><p>So there are indirect ways in which we can detect black holes, certaintly astrophysically and some indication they may play a quantum role in particle physics.</p><p>It is like evolution in a way.  We can&#039;t observe the huge evolutionary history Earth.  There are no time machines, and we can only observe in our short time frames small incremental evolutionary processes.  Creationsists object that scientists can&#039;t produce direct evidence, and they will persist in that.  Objections to black holes have a similar quality to them.</p><p>LC</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70121</link> <dc:creator>Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:34:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70121</guid> <description>@ AnacondaAnother suggested reference for you to read which will instantly discard your notions and your somewhat inaccurate statement;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Well, since so-called &#039;black holes&quot; have never been observed &amp; measured,...&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Foellmi, Cedric &quot;&lt;I&gt;What is the closest black hole to the Sun?&lt;/I&gt; &quot; 16 Apr 2009http://arxiv.org/pdf/0812.4232This might just give you the true perspective about the troubles faced in their determinations! (Note several examples here have nothing to do with GM at all!) Doedn&#039;t sound like someone with a bias view as you claim.So where is this wrong?? Direct us to some a alternatives that might support your accusations?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anaconda</p><p>Another suggested reference for you to read which will instantly discard your notions and your somewhat inaccurate statement;</p><blockquote><p>Well, since so-called &#039;black holes&#034; have never been observed &amp; measured,&#8230;</p></blockquote><p>Foellmi, Cedric &#034;<i>What is the closest black hole to the Sun?</i> &#034; 16 Apr 2009</p><p><a
href="http://arxiv.org/pdf/0812.4232" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/pdf/0812.4232</a></p><p>This might just give you the true perspective about the troubles faced in their determinations! (Note several examples here have nothing to do with GM at all!) Doedn&#039;t sound like someone with a bias view as you claim.</p><p>So where is this wrong?? Direct us to some a alternatives that might support your accusations?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70103</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:27:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70103</guid> <description>@ Salacious B Crumb, I&#039;m grateful to you for that link to the binary BH  XTE J1650-5001 . This article shows up some serious flaws in Anaconda&#039;s &#039;logic&#039; and &#039;reasoning&#039; concerning these celestial rarities. Again, thanks for bringing these glaring errors to light and backing up these claims with current  solid, peer-reviewed. published, papers. Similar PRPP seem to be lacking or not forthcoming from the EU/EC/PU/PC community !</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Salacious B Crumb, I&#039;m grateful to you for that link to the binary BH  XTE J1650-5001 . This article shows up some serious flaws in Anaconda&#039;s &#039;logic&#039; and &#039;reasoning&#039; concerning these celestial rarities. Again, thanks for bringing these glaring errors to light and backing up these claims with current  solid, peer-reviewed. published, papers. Similar PRPP seem to be lacking or not forthcoming from the EU/EC/PU/PC community !</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70096</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70096</guid> <description>Thanks, Dr. Flimmer, for that addendum to my previous post. Perhaps this will elucidate the importance of the neutrino wrt to modern particle astrophysics. Always glad to get input from a theoretical astrophysicist (especially one with a deep interest of mine: blazars, BL Lacs, OVVs and the like :) ).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dr. Flimmer, for that addendum to my previous post. Perhaps this will elucidate the importance of the neutrino wrt to modern particle astrophysics. Always glad to get input from a theoretical astrophysicist (especially one with a deep interest of mine: blazars, BL Lacs, OVVs and the like <img
src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DrFlimmer</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70094</link> <dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70094</guid> <description>To continue Jon Hanford&#039;s post a little bit:It is also interesting why the neutrino is such an important particle:
During a beta-decay a neutron changes into a proton and releases an electron. Since the energies of the particles are clear, one should expect a relatively narrow peak of the electron-energies. But physicists observed a broad continious distribution of the electron-energy. That was a clear contradiction to the law of conservation of energy.
Some physicists went so far to almost accept that the beta-decay should break this important law.
The neutrino finally &quot;saved&quot; the law of conservation of energy - and physics was saved, too!So, yes, detection of particles or phenomena (like GW) can be a very tough task. And most (if not all) detectors of GW are below the threshold to detect anything at all, today. We&#039;ll be ready in some years, but I don&#039;t want to speculate how much time it will need!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To continue Jon Hanford&#039;s post a little bit:</p><p>It is also interesting why the neutrino is such an important particle:<br
/> During a beta-decay a neutron changes into a proton and releases an electron. Since the energies of the particles are clear, one should expect a relatively narrow peak of the electron-energies. But physicists observed a broad continious distribution of the electron-energy. That was a clear contradiction to the law of conservation of energy.<br
/> Some physicists went so far to almost accept that the beta-decay should break this important law.<br
/> The neutrino finally &#034;saved&#034; the law of conservation of energy &#8211; and physics was saved, too!</p><p>So, yes, detection of particles or phenomena (like GW) can be a very tough task. And most (if not all) detectors of GW are below the threshold to detect anything at all, today. We&#039;ll be ready in some years, but I don&#039;t want to speculate how much time it will need!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70093</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:54:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70093</guid> <description>Reminds me of Wolfgang Pauli&#039;s 1930 postulate of a mysterious particle he dubbed the &#039;neutrino&#039; and the 26 year search for this particle was finally achieved by Cowan et. al. for which they won the 1955 Nobel Prize in physics. For 25 years, this theory was in limbo. My point being that it is way too early to dismiss these ideas out of hand due to the short amount of time that these phenomenon have been searched for and the various experiments that have been devised to look for them. Absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of Wolfgang Pauli&#039;s 1930 postulate of a mysterious particle he dubbed the &#039;neutrino&#039; and the 26 year search for this particle was finally achieved by Cowan et. al. for which they won the 1955 Nobel Prize in physics. For 25 years, this theory was in limbo. My point being that it is way too early to dismiss these ideas out of hand due to the short amount of time that these phenomenon have been searched for and the various experiments that have been devised to look for them. Absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70071</link> <dc:creator>Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:22:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70071</guid> <description>@AnacondaSuggest you very carefully read; &quot;&lt;I&gt;Orbital Parameters for the Black Hole Binary XTE J1650-5001&lt;/I&gt; &quot;; J.A. Orosz,  et.al.http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0404343v2No GR needed here, just standard eclipsing binary theory/ observations.* So where is it wrong?? Alternatives?* Others, collaborations for methods, are; GRS 1124-683 and V616 Mon (A0620-00)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anaconda</p><p>Suggest you very carefully read; &#034;<i>Orbital Parameters for the Black Hole Binary XTE J1650-5001</i> &#034;; J.A. Orosz,  et.al.</p><p><a
href="http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0404343v2" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0404343v2</a></p><p>No GR needed here, just standard eclipsing binary theory/ observations.* So where is it wrong?? Alternatives?</p><p>* Others, collaborations for methods, are; GRS 1124-683 and V616 Mon (A0620-00)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70069</link> <dc:creator>Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70069</guid> <description>If mathematics were the language science,
then really Anaconda has the intellectual capability of a protozoa.It is his own deluded mind that holds fanciful figments of imagination, NOT the science itself. Pragmatism - an approach that assesses the truth of meaning of theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application - is clearly not his strong suit. Really to make such wrong and wild attention-grabbing sweeping statements against mathematics and science (minus any real proof) shows the reality of his sad diagnosable psychotic personality flaws.
In the end, this Anaconda chap is the true representative of &lt;i&gt;prima donna&lt;/I&gt; -  a very temperamental person with an inflated view of their own talent or importance. Sadly he has neither!
Such is the true nature of the jackass!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If mathematics were the language science,<br
/> then really Anaconda has the intellectual capability of a protozoa.</p><p>It is his own deluded mind that holds fanciful figments of imagination, NOT the science itself. Pragmatism &#8211; an approach that assesses the truth of meaning of theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application &#8211; is clearly not his strong suit. Really to make such wrong and wild attention-grabbing sweeping statements against mathematics and science (minus any real proof) shows the reality of his sad diagnosable psychotic personality flaws.<br
/> In the end, this Anaconda chap is the true representative of <i>prima donna</i> &#8211;  a very temperamental person with an inflated view of their own talent or importance. Sadly he has neither!<br
/> Such is the true nature of the jackass!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DrFlimmer</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70066</link> <dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:55:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70066</guid> <description>MUAHAHAHAHAHA.....Why did I expect esactly that? I should start a career as an astrologer with my gift of foresight!Anaconda, you have admitted that you have no grasps of mathematics and yet YOU want to judge what Einstein did and did not is correct or not? O RLY?Ever wondered why the &quot;Schwarzschild solution&quot; is called a solution? Because it solves! (To say what it solves would lead to nowhere, Anaconda wouldn&#039;t know what I say - and other already said it...)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MUAHAHAHAHAHA&#8230;..</p><p>Why did I expect esactly that? I should start a career as an astrologer with my gift of foresight!</p><p>Anaconda, you have admitted that you have no grasps of mathematics and yet YOU want to judge what Einstein did and did not is correct or not? O RLY?</p><p>Ever wondered why the &#034;Schwarzschild solution&#034; is called a solution? Because it solves! (To say what it solves would lead to nowhere, Anaconda wouldn&#039;t know what I say &#8211; and other already said it&#8230;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70064</link> <dc:creator>Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:37:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70064</guid> <description>Well, since so-called &#039;black holes&quot; have been observed &amp; measured, and by their definition can be, I&#039;m not worried about any &quot;black holes&quot; being created in the laboratory.
Of course, the success to produce &quot;black holes&quot; in the laboratory will be hailed a great failure, just like the success experiments to detect so-called &quot;gravitational waves&quot; has been called a great failure.
When in reality it is just success, plain and simple.
So-called &quot;Anaconda insights&quot; are fanciful figments of imagination in a &quot;vacuum&quot; that plenty of ideas which do correctly explain reality.&lt;B&gt;Such is the nature of a delusional mind.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt;Really in the end Anaconda knows absolutely nothing.&lt;/B&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since so-called &#039;black holes&#034; have been observed &amp; measured, and by their definition can be, I&#039;m not worried about any &#034;black holes&#034; being created in the laboratory.<br
/> Of course, the success to produce &#034;black holes&#034; in the laboratory will be hailed a great failure, just like the success experiments to detect so-called &#034;gravitational waves&#034; has been called a great failure.<br
/> When in reality it is just success, plain and simple.<br
/> So-called &#034;Anaconda insights&#034; are fanciful figments of imagination in a &#034;vacuum&#034; that plenty of ideas which do correctly explain reality.</p><p><b>Such is the nature of a delusional mind.</b></p><p><b>Really in the end Anaconda knows absolutely nothing.</b></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70063</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:34:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70063</guid> <description>www facepalm org</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>www facepalm org</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nereid</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-2/#comment-70062</link> <dc:creator>Nereid</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:34:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70062</guid> <description>I keep coming back to the question of why he (A) does this.I mean, he is appallingly ignorant wrt the topic - either specific (black holes) or general (physics) - has admitted that he is, and yet continues to rant!Is it all a part of the EU cult&#039;s propaganda campaign perhaps?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep coming back to the question of why he (A) does this.</p><p>I mean, he is appallingly ignorant wrt the topic &#8211; either specific (black holes) or general (physics) &#8211; has admitted that he is, and yet continues to rant!</p><p>Is it all a part of the EU cult&#039;s propaganda campaign perhaps?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-70061</link> <dc:creator>Hon. Salacious B. Crumb</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:29:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70061</guid> <description>@ Anaconda
How really stupid do you think everyone is here?
Just again the usual mumbo-jumbo anti-science claptrap – and you know it.
Real liars and fraudsters are so easy to pick up. They squeal out loud when the think they the know something, then run away when their obvious stupidity and flaws are completely exposed. Then they have the audacity to pretend it wasn&#039;t true and continue on with the diatribe and claptrap again, and again and again.&lt;B&gt;Really in the end you know absolutely nothing.&lt;/B&gt;Game&#039;s up jackass!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anaconda<br
/> How really stupid do you think everyone is here?<br
/> Just again the usual mumbo-jumbo anti-science claptrap – and you know it.<br
/> Real liars and fraudsters are so easy to pick up. They squeal out loud when the think they the know something, then run away when their obvious stupidity and flaws are completely exposed. Then they have the audacity to pretend it wasn&#039;t true and continue on with the diatribe and claptrap again, and again and again.</p><p><b>Really in the end you know absolutely nothing.</b></p><p>Game&#039;s up jackass!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ND</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-70045</link> <dc:creator>ND</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:31:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70045</guid> <description>This is just too comical. He&#039;s still upset about black holes!Upset!
About black holes!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just too comical. He&#039;s still upset about black holes!</p><p>Upset!<br
/> About black holes!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-70044</link> <dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:48:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70044</guid> <description>I second Finton&#039;s remarks.  Black holes are a Petrov type D solution, with two eigenvectors of the Weyl curvature tensor.It is clear Anaconda does not know what a pseudotensor is.LC</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Finton&#039;s remarks.  Black holes are a Petrov type D solution, with two eigenvectors of the Weyl curvature tensor.</p><p>It is clear Anaconda does not know what a pseudotensor is.</p><p>LC</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave Finton</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-70040</link> <dc:creator>Dave Finton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:58:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70040</guid> <description>@Anaconda: Actually, you would be incorrect. Einstein never personally subscribed to the idea of black holes, but his equations for general relativity have been proven to be very accurate in every experiment that has tested the theory.  And black holes are a predicted outcome of GR with a mass sufficiently dense enough.  Two things are known: if GR is correct, then black holes can certainly exist given the right conditions. And also, observational evidence points to there being a lot of places in the Universe where the conditions are ripe for black hole formation.One more minor nitpick: mathematics certainly cannot be used to &quot;prove everything&quot;. If the math does not add up for a given proposed scenario, then it is impossible for that scenario to happen anywhere in reality. This is why GR has held up for so long as a valid scientific theory when alternatives have been discarded; for any other possible explanation given so far about how the large-scale Universe works, the math doesn&#039;t add up.  It does for GR.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anaconda: Actually, you would be incorrect. Einstein never personally subscribed to the idea of black holes, but his equations for general relativity have been proven to be very accurate in every experiment that has tested the theory.  And black holes are a predicted outcome of GR with a mass sufficiently dense enough.  Two things are known: if GR is correct, then black holes can certainly exist given the right conditions. And also, observational evidence points to there being a lot of places in the Universe where the conditions are ripe for black hole formation.</p><p>One more minor nitpick: mathematics certainly cannot be used to &#034;prove everything&#034;. If the math does not add up for a given proposed scenario, then it is impossible for that scenario to happen anywhere in reality. This is why GR has held up for so long as a valid scientific theory when alternatives have been discarded; for any other possible explanation given so far about how the large-scale Universe works, the math doesn&#039;t add up.  It does for GR.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anaconda</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-70038</link> <dc:creator>Anaconda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:05:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70038</guid> <description>&quot;The black hole is a solution of the Einstein field equation.&quot;No, actually it does not.  That is why Einstein never subscribed to &quot;black holes&quot;The actual Schwardchid solution ruled out &quot;black holes&quot;.A bastardized solution that was fraudulent did solve the field equations.But you know what?In mathematics, you can make any solution work.And Einstein&#039;s field equations are one big &#039;thought experiment&#039; that uses make believe terms like pseudo-tensor.It does not relate to ANY physical process, but was simply made up out of whole cloth.Any hypothesis that relies on make believe concepts like &quot;pseudo-tensor&quot; that are simply fudge factors abitrarily assigned a value has no place in serious science......but you know what?  That is exactly what Einstein did.So-called &quot;black holes&quot; are nothing but a fairy tale told to keep the money coming in.There is no money left for fairy tales.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;The black hole is a solution of the Einstein field equation.&#034;</p><p>No, actually it does not.  That is why Einstein never subscribed to &#034;black holes&#034;</p><p>The actual Schwardchid solution ruled out &#034;black holes&#034;.</p><p>A bastardized solution that was fraudulent did solve the field equations.</p><p>But you know what?</p><p>In mathematics, you can make any solution work.</p><p>And Einstein&#039;s field equations are one big &#039;thought experiment&#039; that uses make believe terms like pseudo-tensor.</p><p>It does not relate to ANY physical process, but was simply made up out of whole cloth.</p><p>Any hypothesis that relies on make believe concepts like &#034;pseudo-tensor&#034; that are simply fudge factors abitrarily assigned a value has no place in serious science&#8230;</p><p>&#8230;but you know what?  That is exactly what Einstein did.</p><p>So-called &#034;black holes&#034; are nothing but a fairy tale told to keep the money coming in.</p><p>There is no money left for fairy tales.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-70032</link> <dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:44:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70032</guid> <description>The black hole is a solution of the Einstein field equation.  It is something which satsfies the differential equations of gravity.  In electromagnetism much the same happens.  EM physics are solutions to the Maxwell equations.LC</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The black hole is a solution of the Einstein field equation.  It is something which satsfies the differential equations of gravity.  In electromagnetism much the same happens.  EM physics are solutions to the Maxwell equations.</p><p>LC</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anaconda</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/21/if-you-dont-have-an-lhc-heres-how-to-create-your-own-black-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-70028</link> <dc:creator>Anaconda</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:04:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=37984#comment-70028</guid> <description>Well, since so-called &#039;black holes&quot; have never been observed &amp; measured, and by their definition can&#039;t be, I&#039;m not worried about any &quot;black holes&quot; being created in the laboratory.Of course, the failure to produce &quot;black holes&quot; in the laboratory will be hailed a great success, just like the failure to detect so-called &quot;gravitational waves&quot; has been called a great success.When in reality it is just failure, plain and simple.So-called &quot;black holes&quot; are fanciful figments of imagination in a &quot;community&quot; that has run out of ideas which correctly explain reality.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since so-called &#039;black holes&#034; have never been observed &amp; measured, and by their definition can&#039;t be, I&#039;m not worried about any &#034;black holes&#034; being created in the laboratory.</p><p>Of course, the failure to produce &#034;black holes&#034; in the laboratory will be hailed a great success, just like the failure to detect so-called &#034;gravitational waves&#034; has been called a great success.</p><p>When in reality it is just failure, plain and simple.</p><p>So-called &#034;black holes&#034; are fanciful figments of imagination in a &#034;community&#034; that has run out of ideas which correctly explain reality.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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