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> <channel><title>Comments on: Near-Earth Object Has Two Moons</title> <atom:link href="http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/</link> <description>Space and astronomy news</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:49:44 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69477</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:32:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69477</guid> <description>@ yeltrah: Check out the Wiki page on Near-Earth Objects page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_earth_asteroids . Lots of links and references, as usual.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ yeltrah: Check out the Wiki page on Near-Earth Objects page here: <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_earth_asteroids" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_earth_asteroids</a> . Lots of links and references, as usual.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: yeltrah</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69430</link> <dc:creator>yeltrah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:24:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69430</guid> <description>What is the definition of near earth objects?  Are they in earths &quot;path&quot;?  If so, then by definition Earth is not a planet because it has not cleared it&#039;s &quot;path&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the definition of near earth objects?  Are they in earths &#034;path&#034;?  If so, then by definition Earth is not a planet because it has not cleared it&#039;s &#034;path&#034;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69425</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:09:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69425</guid> <description>Here&#039;s a fact filled JPL page entitled &quot;Asteroid Radar Research&quot; @: http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/  with all sorts of info on current asteroid research using radar :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a fact filled JPL page entitled &#034;Asteroid Radar Research&#034; @: <a
href="http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/</a> with all sorts of info on current asteroid research using radar <img
src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jesper</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69422</link> <dc:creator>Jesper</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69422</guid> <description>Wow, I didn&#039;t know it was possible to use (some kind of) radar on objects that are 2.5 million km away.I agree with Jorge, it would be interesting to read more about how this method of observing works exactly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I didn&#039;t know it was possible to use (some kind of) radar on objects that are 2.5 million km away.</p><p>I agree with Jorge, it would be interesting to read more about how this method of observing works exactly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bernie</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69407</link> <dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69407</guid> <description>Manu,  you&#039;re welcome!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manu,  you&#039;re welcome!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Manu</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69394</link> <dc:creator>Manu</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:46:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69394</guid> <description>Bernie, thanks for the link!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie, thanks for the link!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69391</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:02:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69391</guid> <description>Jorge, you might want to check out the &#039;mandatory&#039; Wiki page on &quot;radar astronomy&quot; and its related links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_astronomy  :)An a different note, does anyone know the rough inclinations of these objects to our line of sight? Or direction of orbit, for that matter?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge, you might want to check out the &#039;mandatory&#039; Wiki page on &#034;radar astronomy&#034; and its related links here: <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_astronomy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_astronomy</a> <img
src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>An a different note, does anyone know the rough inclinations of these objects to our line of sight? Or direction of orbit, for that matter?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jorge</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69389</link> <dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:44:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69389</guid> <description>Hm... I see I had a totally wrong idea about how this works.And the fact that nobody seems to understand it very well (or at least be able to explain it properly) may be an indication that maybe a generic article on the issue might be a good thing to publish by Universe Today.What do you say, staff? ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230; I see I had a totally wrong idea about how this works.</p><p>And the fact that nobody seems to understand it very well (or at least be able to explain it properly) may be an indication that maybe a generic article on the issue might be a good thing to publish by Universe Today.</p><p>What do you say, staff? <img
src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bernie</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69386</link> <dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:57:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69386</guid> <description>Manu:I think the image released by JPL and Goldstone has been processed and can (to first order) be simulate what an observer floating in space would  roughly &quot;see&quot;.See Chris Magri&#039;s (one of the 1994CC observers)
page about radar studies of the main-belt asteroid
216 Kleopatra.:http://academic.umf.maine.edu/~magri/NASC/kleopatra.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manu:</p><p>I think the image released by JPL and Goldstone has been processed and can (to first order) be simulate what an observer floating in space would  roughly &#034;see&#034;.</p><p>See Chris Magri&#039;s (one of the 1994CC observers)<br
/> page about radar studies of the main-belt asteroid<br
/> 216 Kleopatra.:</p><p><a
href="http://academic.umf.maine.edu/~magri/NASC/kleopatra.html" rel="nofollow">http://academic.umf.maine.edu/~magri/NASC/kleopatra.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sili</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69385</link> <dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:29:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69385</guid> <description>Awesome. Did they get enough data to determine the mass?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Did they get enough data to determine the mass?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Manu</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69384</link> <dc:creator>Manu</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:34:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69384</guid> <description>It&#039;s even more complicated, these radar images are NOT a sort of radar flash-photography.As Emily Lakdawalla explains, &quot;Doppler-delay images plot Doppler shift on the horizontal axis and distance from the telescope on the vertical axis.&quot; (from her blog at planetary dot org slash blog; she also displays a noise-reduced version of the anim).
Meaning: radar gives you 2 kinds of information. The time-delay gives object distance; frequency shift (&#039;Doppler shift&#039;) gives radial velocity respective to Earth.Plotting these two as coordinates on a graph produces something that looks like an image, but is not!
I fail at understanding how this &#039;image&#039; actually relates to the object as we would see it, where is the observer&#039;s direction (if any), etc.Anyone knows of a webpage where this is clearly explained, with graphics?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s even more complicated, these radar images are NOT a sort of radar flash-photography.</p><p>As Emily Lakdawalla explains, &#034;Doppler-delay images plot Doppler shift on the horizontal axis and distance from the telescope on the vertical axis.&#034; (from her blog at planetary dot org slash blog; she also displays a noise-reduced version of the anim).<br
/> Meaning: radar gives you 2 kinds of information. The time-delay gives object distance; frequency shift (&#039;Doppler shift&#039;) gives radial velocity respective to Earth.</p><p>Plotting these two as coordinates on a graph produces something that looks like an image, but is not!<br
/> I fail at understanding how this &#039;image&#039; actually relates to the object as we would see it, where is the observer&#039;s direction (if any), etc.</p><p>Anyone knows of a webpage where this is clearly explained, with graphics?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin F.</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69383</link> <dc:creator>Kevin F.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:05:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69383</guid> <description>That&#039;s a neat little surprise!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s a neat little surprise!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bernie</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69382</link> <dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:53:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69382</guid> <description>Jorge,When imaging near-earth asteroids, Arecibo is used in its active radar mode. So, it does emit a pulse towards the asteroid.Go to the Arecibo research page at:http://www.naic.edu/public/research.htmand look that the entry under &quot;Radar Astronomy&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge,</p><p>When imaging near-earth asteroids, Arecibo is used in its active radar mode. So, it does emit a pulse towards the asteroid.</p><p>Go to the Arecibo research page at:</p><p> <a
href="http://www.naic.edu/public/research.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.naic.edu/public/research.htm</a></p><p>and look that the entry under &#034;Radar Astronomy&#034;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jorge</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/07/near-earth-object-has-two-moons/comment-page-1/#comment-69380</link> <dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:56:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36980#comment-69380</guid> <description>I have a doubt on these radar images.The common understanding of radar systems implies a radio transmitter which emits radio waves and a receiver which is used to receive those radio waves that get reflected by the objects in front of the transmitter.But in this case, there is no transmitter, is there? Arecibo works simply as a receiver, detecting the fraction of radio waves originally emitted by the Sun that get reflected by those asteroids. Which is why we see them as crescent. Isn&#039;t it so?If it is so, then why are these images called &quot;radar&quot; images, and not &quot;radio&quot; images, like visible, infrared, ultraviolet images, and so on?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a doubt on these radar images.</p><p>The common understanding of radar systems implies a radio transmitter which emits radio waves and a receiver which is used to receive those radio waves that get reflected by the objects in front of the transmitter.</p><p>But in this case, there is no transmitter, is there? Arecibo works simply as a receiver, detecting the fraction of radio waves originally emitted by the Sun that get reflected by those asteroids. Which is why we see them as crescent. Isn&#039;t it so?</p><p>If it is so, then why are these images called &#034;radar&#034; images, and not &#034;radio&#034; images, like visible, infrared, ultraviolet images, and so on?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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