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> <channel><title>Comments on: Opportunity Spies Unusual Rock &#8212; Large Meteorite?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/</link> <description>Space and astronomy news</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:12:04 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: BlueStraggler</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69229</link> <dc:creator>BlueStraggler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:03:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69229</guid> <description>At first glance I thought this might be a Where In The Universe challenge.  A distinctive rock on a serene shoreline with little ocean wavelets cresting in the distance... and footprints... oh wait those aren&#039;t footprints... where is this again? :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first glance I thought this might be a Where In The Universe challenge.  A distinctive rock on a serene shoreline with little ocean wavelets cresting in the distance&#8230; and footprints&#8230; oh wait those aren&#039;t footprints&#8230; where is this again? <img
src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave Finton</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69224</link> <dc:creator>Dave Finton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:57:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69224</guid> <description>It&#039;s nice to see Opportunity continue to live up to its name!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s nice to see Opportunity continue to live up to its name!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69223</link> <dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:10:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69223</guid> <description>THis rock definately looks out of place.  The rocks underneath to sand dune appearing waves of dust or sand appear more sedimentary.The lower parts of Earth&#039;s atmosphere plays a roll in braking rather massive meteoroids  I don&#039;t know the numbers, but this rock might have essentially dropped a part of the way down.  It also could be a fragment of a piece of a larger meteoroid which impacted further away.
LC</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THis rock definately looks out of place.  The rocks underneath to sand dune appearing waves of dust or sand appear more sedimentary.</p><p>The lower parts of Earth&#039;s atmosphere plays a roll in braking rather massive meteoroids  I don&#039;t know the numbers, but this rock might have essentially dropped a part of the way down.  It also could be a fragment of a piece of a larger meteoroid which impacted further away.<br
/> LC</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Manu</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69222</link> <dc:creator>Manu</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:36:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69222</guid> <description>@Sili: I believe that braking happens for the most part in the less dense, highest parts of the atmosphere (70-50km on Earth?), and a meteorite of that size should be sufficiently slowed down before reaching the denser, Earth-only layers, that it would not be affected anymore.
The only difference on Mars would be the altitude at which this happens.
I remember reading something about this, maybe on UT about the difficulties of slowing spacecraft for a Mars landing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sili: I believe that braking happens for the most part in the less dense, highest parts of the atmosphere (70-50km on Earth?), and a meteorite of that size should be sufficiently slowed down before reaching the denser, Earth-only layers, that it would not be affected anymore.<br
/> The only difference on Mars would be the altitude at which this happens.<br
/> I remember reading something about this, maybe on UT about the difficulties of slowing spacecraft for a Mars landing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ToSeek</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69221</link> <dc:creator>ToSeek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69221</guid> <description>Steve Squyres said at the Mars Society convention that this was the fourth meteorite found by the rovers. I think the other two were found by Spirit:http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20060710a.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Squyres said at the Mars Society convention that this was the fourth meteorite found by the rovers. I think the other two were found by Spirit:</p><p><a
href="http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20060710a.html" rel="nofollow">http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20060710a.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Torbjorn Larsson OM</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69220</link> <dc:creator>Torbjorn Larsson OM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:57:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69220</guid> <description>Hmm. On second thought, if Theia succeeded in launching the Moon material... The Heavy Late Bombardment ought to have packed some punches, and chances is that life existed throughout it. There&#039;s various results hinting at that this can&#039;t be excluded.And at that, perhaps life even existed already during the tail of the earlier heavy one at the end of planet formation. Depending on crust formation times, obviously. That abiogenesis was sufficiently fast, on the order of ~ 10 ky, can&#039;t be excluded either.With one &quot;sure&quot; opportunity (perhaps two) for launching Earth material, it must have happened, no? I should probably dig for impact models and simulations to see what amount of ejecta I can hope for.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. On second thought, if Theia succeeded in launching the Moon material&#8230; The Heavy Late Bombardment ought to have packed some punches, and chances is that life existed throughout it. There&#039;s various results hinting at that this can&#039;t be excluded.</p><p>And at that, perhaps life even existed already during the tail of the earlier heavy one at the end of planet formation. Depending on crust formation times, obviously. That abiogenesis was sufficiently fast, on the order of ~ 10 ky, can&#039;t be excluded either.</p><p>With one &#034;sure&#034; opportunity (perhaps two) for launching Earth material, it must have happened, no? I should probably dig for impact models and simulations to see what amount of ejecta I can hope for.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Torbjorn Larsson OM</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69219</link> <dc:creator>Torbjorn Larsson OM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:34:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69219</guid> <description>That&#039;s so cool!And thanks Joe Hanford for the link, seems Meridiani Planum is an &quot;erosion conveyor belt&quot; for meteorites analogous to the Antarctic ones. (Though only concentrating vertically.) I still hold out hopes for seeing early Earth samples, before 3.5 Ga.[For observing early life and its conditions. I dunno how large impacts would be required to launch samples though. Perhaps it&#039;s a pipe dream or at least very unlikely.]Hell, any independent samples would probably be terrific, I&#039;m not a geologist. But perhaps geologically active Mars is the easier meteorite find location than the dead Moon.&lt;blockquote&gt;
what is the scientific interest of going out of their way to study meteors on mars
&lt;/blockquote&gt;At a guess meteorites are sufficiently rare to be worthy of study all by themselves. But I guess you would also get some idea of how these materials sort out through the solar system, their frequency, and how different environments affect them.&lt;blockquote&gt;
one feels compelled to ask, where is the &quot;impact crater&quot;?…
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Quoting Hanford&#039;s link on Heat Shield rock:&lt;blockquote&gt;
Meridiani Planum, the part of Mars where this meteorite was found, is suspected to have once been covered by a layer of material with a thickness of as much as 1 km which has been subsequently eroded. This means that on impact this meteorite might have created a crater, but evidence of that crater may have been subsequently erased by millions, or even billions, of years of erosion. In any case, the meteorite does not show much sign of rust. In the absence of detailed knowledge of the Mars environment, it is difficult to conclude whether it fell recently or was buried until recently. It also shows little sign of weathering.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s so cool!</p><p>And thanks Joe Hanford for the link, seems Meridiani Planum is an &#034;erosion conveyor belt&#034; for meteorites analogous to the Antarctic ones. (Though only concentrating vertically.) I still hold out hopes for seeing early Earth samples, before 3.5 Ga.</p><p>[For observing early life and its conditions. I dunno how large impacts would be required to launch samples though. Perhaps it's a pipe dream or at least very unlikely.]</p><p>Hell, any independent samples would probably be terrific, I&#039;m not a geologist. But perhaps geologically active Mars is the easier meteorite find location than the dead Moon.</p><blockquote><p> what is the scientific interest of going out of their way to study meteors on mars</p></blockquote><p>At a guess meteorites are sufficiently rare to be worthy of study all by themselves. But I guess you would also get some idea of how these materials sort out through the solar system, their frequency, and how different environments affect them.</p><blockquote><p> one feels compelled to ask, where is the &#034;impact crater&#034;?…</p></blockquote><p>Quoting Hanford&#039;s link on Heat Shield rock:</p><blockquote><p> Meridiani Planum, the part of Mars where this meteorite was found, is suspected to have once been covered by a layer of material with a thickness of as much as 1 km which has been subsequently eroded. This means that on impact this meteorite might have created a crater, but evidence of that crater may have been subsequently erased by millions, or even billions, of years of erosion. In any case, the meteorite does not show much sign of rust. In the absence of detailed knowledge of the Mars environment, it is difficult to conclude whether it fell recently or was buried until recently. It also shows little sign of weathering.</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69216</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:47:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69216</guid> <description>Of course, the link in the article to Stu Atkinson&#039;s blog has many great images ( some in 3-D to boot!) and a good commentary on these unusual martian meteorites. Both the wiki page and Stu note that more have been found since the 2005 discovery( some of which are shown on Stu&#039;s blog). Per wiki: &quot;Following the identification of Heat Shield rock as a meteorite, two additional nickel-iron meteorites were identified by the Spirit rover (unofficially named &quot;Allan Hills&quot; and &quot;Zhong Shan&quot;), and several candidate stony meteorites have been identified on Mars.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the link in the article to Stu Atkinson&#039;s blog has many great images ( some in 3-D to boot!) and a good commentary on these unusual martian meteorites. Both the wiki page and Stu note that more have been found since the 2005 discovery( some of which are shown on Stu&#039;s blog). Per wiki: &#034;Following the identification of Heat Shield rock as a meteorite, two additional nickel-iron meteorites were identified by the Spirit rover (unofficially named &#034;Allan Hills&#034; and &#034;Zhong Shan&#034;), and several candidate stony meteorites have been identified on Mars.&#034;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: azwizo1</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69215</link> <dc:creator>azwizo1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:21:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69215</guid> <description>Wowt hat is truly amazing dude!RT
www.anon-web-tools.us.tc</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wowt hat is truly amazing dude!</p><p>RT<br
/> <a
href="http://www.anon-web-tools.us.tc" rel="nofollow">http://www.anon-web-tools.us.tc</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon Hanford</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69214</link> <dc:creator>Jon Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:19:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69214</guid> <description>@davesmith_au:  Check out the &#039;Heat Shield Rock&#039; wiki page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Shield_Rock  for pics &amp; links. This new object sure looks like the 2005 meteorite.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@davesmith_au:  Check out the &#039;Heat Shield Rock&#039; wiki page here: <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Shield_Rock" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Shield_Rock</a> for pics &amp; links. This new object sure looks like the 2005 meteorite.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: davesmith_au</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69213</link> <dc:creator>davesmith_au</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:04:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69213</guid> <description>@Aqua:
&lt;blockquote&gt;This will be the second meteor found by the rovers.. if confirmed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m interested to know, where was the first one, and are there images of same?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aqua:</p><blockquote><p>This will be the second meteor found by the rovers.. if confirmed.</p></blockquote><p>I&#039;m interested to know, where was the first one, and are there images of same?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: davesmith_au</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69212</link> <dc:creator>davesmith_au</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:00:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69212</guid> <description>Um, if this does turn out to be a meteorite, one feels compelled to ask, where is the &quot;impact crater&quot;?...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, if this does turn out to be a meteorite, one feels compelled to ask, where is the &#034;impact crater&#034;?&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ethanol</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69210</link> <dc:creator>ethanol</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:44:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69210</guid> <description>Cool, but what is the scientific interest of going out of their way to study meteors on mars?  Can&#039;t we study the same sorts of meteors in much more detail here on earth?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, but what is the scientific interest of going out of their way to study meteors on mars?  Can&#039;t we study the same sorts of meteors in much more detail here on earth?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Vedic</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69207</link> <dc:creator>Vedic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69207</guid> <description>@SiliUnless of coarse when the metorites struck Mars had a thicker atmosphere. It depends maybe when it struck but it poses some interesting questions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sili</p><p>Unless of coarse when the metorites struck Mars had a thicker atmosphere. It depends maybe when it struck but it poses some interesting questions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aqua</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69205</link> <dc:creator>Aqua</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:05:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69205</guid> <description>This will be the second meteor found by the rovers.. if confirmed.There are several factors to consider Sili... Yes the atmosphere on Mars is much thinner but the meteor&#039;s approach angle and speed would also play a role in shaping the meteorite. It is also possible that there was more then one encounter with Mars atmosphere.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be the second meteor found by the rovers.. if confirmed.</p><p>There are several factors to consider Sili&#8230; Yes the atmosphere on Mars is much thinner but the meteor&#039;s approach angle and speed would also play a role in shaping the meteorite. It is also possible that there was more then one encounter with Mars atmosphere.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sili</title><link>http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/01/opportunity-spies-unusual-rock-large-meteorite/comment-page-1/#comment-69204</link> <dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:30:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.universetoday.com/?p=36498#comment-69204</guid> <description>Shouldn&#039;t meteorites on Mars &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; look like those on Earth?If the Martian atmosphere is thinner, the rocks won&#039;t get braked and baked as much when hurtling through it, right?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#039;t meteorites on Mars <em>not</em> look like those on Earth?</p><p>If the Martian atmosphere is thinner, the rocks won&#039;t get braked and baked as much when hurtling through it, right?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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