Comments on: Made in Korea: Lunar Lander Unveiled http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/ Space and astronomy news Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:17:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44755 dollhopf Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:55:49 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44755 http://www.videojug.com/film/the-british-space-program-2 http://www.videojug.com/film/the-british-space-program-2

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44748 dollhopf Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:40:27 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44748 In reference to "Beagle 2 ... was a triumph of a guy in a garage over thick-headed ministers. A rather pathetic really" Maybe Sir Richard Branson might have an interest in this job of the UK science minister? In reference to "Beagle 2 … was a triumph of a guy in a garage over thick-headed ministers. A rather pathetic really"

Maybe Sir Richard Branson might have an interest in this job of the UK science minister?

]]> By: Paul Eaton-Jones http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44442 Paul Eaton-Jones Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:55:16 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44442 I think a lot of the recent NASA bashing [over the last 15 years or so] is down to the fact that tremendous sums of money has been directed wrongly. The unmanned craft, with a few exceptions, have produced fantastic results while the manned programme has done very little. The fiasco of the space station - an orbiting greenhouse/mini zoo - has swallowed more money than I can visualise when it ought to have been used as a staging post to the moon; the compromise of the shuttle fleet when the funds could have been better [?] used to develop a heavy lift rocket as a successor to the wonderful Saturn V. While the two examples above have been amazing engineering triumphs [well I think so!!] they haven't really done much and in times of shrinking budgets they arean expensive luxury. We SHOULD have a manned programme but it needs better direction. Also the soome of the shennanigans that occasionally surface about NASA do nothing to endear it to the wider public. From the first triumphant days when anything and everything seemed possible at NASA we now hold our breath when a rocket or shuttle is launched. Still, from Britain, those of us who support the spaxce programmes we're dead jealous. I think a lot of the recent NASA bashing [over the last 15 years or so] is down to the fact that tremendous sums of money has been directed wrongly. The unmanned craft, with a few exceptions, have produced fantastic results while the manned programme has done very little. The fiasco of the space station – an orbiting greenhouse/mini zoo – has swallowed more money than I can visualise when it ought to have been used as a staging post to the moon; the compromise of the shuttle fleet when the funds could have been better [?] used to develop a heavy lift rocket as a successor to the wonderful Saturn V. While the two examples above have been amazing engineering triumphs [well I think so!!] they haven't really done much and in times of shrinking budgets they arean expensive luxury. We SHOULD have a manned programme but it needs better direction. Also the soome of the shennanigans that occasionally surface about NASA do nothing to endear it to the wider public. From the first triumphant days when anything and everything seemed possible at NASA we now hold our breath when a rocket or shuttle is launched. Still, from Britain, those of us who support the spaxce programmes we're dead jealous.

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44295 dollhopf Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:11:59 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44295 "So one could say look I am better than nasa I built this cheap POS for a fraction. There as many America bashers inside america as outside." Yes, sure. And there is nevertheless always a possibility for America-admiration inside and outside. But also, here and now is nevertheless a commitment: expand the boundaries! Bring us forward! The United States are the/our leader of the Western societies and of all others which agree. The Republik of Korea is well known to the world as an emerging country. We all do appreciate the efforts of the Korean people. WE LIKE THEM! And we wish them success in their efforts to bring their country to the top! (Sure we can if we are born in the USA.) By the way, I guess that this Korean lunar lander is nothing more then a test device. What I see is a breadboard construction. There is nothing silly on that. Therefore, as soon as the device needs to be adapted to the end this lander will look really in step with actual practice. "So one could say look I am better than nasa I built this cheap POS for a fraction. There as many America bashers inside america as outside." Yes, sure.

And there is nevertheless always a possibility for America-admiration inside and outside. But also, here and now is nevertheless a commitment: expand the boundaries! Bring us forward!

The United States are the/our leader of the Western societies and of all others which agree. The Republik of Korea is well known to the world as an emerging country. We all do appreciate the efforts of the Korean people. WE LIKE THEM! And we wish them success in their efforts to bring their country to the top! (Sure we can if we are born in the USA.)

By the way, I guess that this Korean lunar lander is nothing more then a test device. What I see is a breadboard construction. There is nothing silly on that. Therefore, as soon as the device needs to be adapted to the end this lander will look really in step with actual practice.

]]> By: byron http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44244 byron Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:04:32 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44244 wow, can we stop with the nasa hate in every post? wow, can we stop with the nasa hate in every post?

]]> By: Dan http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44239 Dan Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:41:52 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44239 I love what the guy said " koreans sent meth lab to moon" hahaha.... big deal. It is easy to land something on the moon, low gravity and no messy atmosphere for re entry. So one could say look I am better than nasa I built this cheap POS for a fraction. There as many America bashers inside america as outside. I love what the guy said " koreans sent meth lab to moon" hahaha…. big deal. It is easy to land something on the moon, low gravity and no messy atmosphere for re entry. So one could say look I am better than nasa I built this cheap POS for a fraction. There as many America bashers inside america as outside.

]]> By: Paul Eaton-Jones http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44219 Paul Eaton-Jones Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:45:23 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44219 That should have read, ALL rather pathetic really. That should have read, ALL rather pathetic really.

]]> By: Paul Eaton-Jones http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44218 Paul Eaton-Jones Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:44:17 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44218 I agree absolutely with dollhopf about our space effort in Britain. We had the beginnings of a really adventurous programme but, and you really won't believe this, but as a rocket at the start of the programme was being fired the government cancelled it!!! 1971 I think it was. The tiny satellite it launched is still out there and can be heard beep-beep-beeping. It was a shameful act by our government. All we could muster was Beagle 2 and that was a triumph of a guy in a garage over thick-headed ministers. A rather pathetic really. I agree absolutely with dollhopf about our space effort in Britain. We had the beginnings of a really adventurous programme but, and you really won't believe this, but as a rocket at the start of the programme was being fired the government cancelled it!!! 1971 I think it was. The tiny satellite it launched is still out there and can be heard beep-beep-beeping. It was a shameful act by our government. All we could muster was Beagle 2 and that was a triumph of a guy in a garage over thick-headed ministers. A rather pathetic really.

]]> By: Ross http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44193 Ross Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:55:10 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44193 Is't it amazing what one can build when you find you don't need to buy a $200.00 dollar left handed claw hammer? Yes, cut a few of those out of your budget, and you'll be flabber-gasted at what you can achieve. N.A.S.A. is only interested in lineing their pockets, it's the back yard rocket hobbiest that is interested in obtaining achievements and results. Just think about exo-planet hunters, their back yard peep'ers were the first to find them, then the big glasses started looking for them. back in the early 19th century, 2 boys with bike parts and a couple of lawn mower engines built the first planes. Then afterwards, the big companies began to join in on the airplane scean. Heck, once there was a ding-a-ling that put a lawn mower motor on 4 wheels and he called it a horseless carrage. now look, we got cars all over the place. hee hee hee. Once, a guy tied a jumbo rag to his little boat and found america. Another flew a kite in a storm, got zapped and ushered in a new era of electricity. Who knows? This guy my be the next one to usher in a new kind of lunar lander engines we can use next. Is't it amazing what one can build when you find you don't need to buy a $200.00 dollar left handed claw hammer? Yes, cut a few of those out of your budget, and you'll be flabber-gasted at what you can achieve. N.A.S.A. is only interested in lineing their pockets, it's the back yard rocket hobbiest that is interested in obtaining achievements and results. Just think about exo-planet hunters, their back yard peep'ers were the first to find them, then the big glasses started looking for them. back in the early 19th century, 2 boys with bike parts and a couple of lawn mower engines built the first planes. Then afterwards, the big companies began to join in on the airplane scean. Heck, once there was a ding-a-ling that put a lawn mower motor on 4 wheels and he called it a horseless carrage. now look, we got cars all over the place. hee hee hee. Once, a guy tied a jumbo rag to his little boat and found america. Another flew a kite in a storm, got zapped and ushered in a new era of electricity. Who knows? This guy my be the next one to usher in a new kind of lunar lander engines we can use next.

]]> By: John -- www.moonposter.ie http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44188 John -- www.moonposter.ie Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:27:58 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44188 Yes, fair dues to Korea for this attempt. I would think they 'd be better off joining with NASA and others rather than go it alone -- re: their 2020 manned mission (very optimistic) to the Moon. China, India and others are also putting forward this optimistic year, too, but from what we know of Korea's technologic developments in the lunar research area, I'm thinking this is an area that has to be disclosed more to te public if we are to believe in what they are saying. John -- http://www.moonposter.ie (A detailed poster on important aspects about the Moon + Free poster offer now) Yes, fair dues to Korea for this attempt.

I would think they 'd be better off joining with NASA and others rather than go it alone — re: their 2020 manned mission (very optimistic) to the Moon.

China, India and others are also putting forward this optimistic year, too, but from what we know of Korea's technologic developments in the lunar research area, I'm thinking this is an area that has to be disclosed more to te public if we are to believe in what they are saying.

John — http://www.moonposter.ie
(A detailed poster on important aspects about the Moon + Free poster offer now)

]]> By: Neil http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-2/#comment-44186 Neil Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:09:58 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44186 This surely is My Little Pony's lunar lander? This surely is My Little Pony's lunar lander?

]]> By: njacres http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44184 njacres Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:46:36 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44184 When I arrived at my surprise birthday party, eveyone jumped up and said "Supplies" When I arrived at my surprise birthday party, eveyone jumped up and said "Supplies"

]]> By: njacres http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44183 njacres Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:44:28 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44183 "Scientists say it carry an additional 20 kilograms in payloads to the surface." A quote from one of the Koreans? Change carry to "carries" or "can carry" "The rocket's propulsion includes a state-of-the-art propulsion and "...........huh? OK, the wife's RLS didn't allow me much sleep and I'm feeling extra critical this AM. Sorry. "Scientists say it carry an additional 20 kilograms in payloads to the surface." A quote from one of the Koreans? Change carry to "carries" or "can carry"

"The rocket's propulsion includes a state-of-the-art propulsion and "………..huh? OK, the wife's RLS didn't allow me much sleep and I'm feeling extra critical this AM. Sorry.

]]> By: Chris Coles http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44169 Chris Coles Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:40:46 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44169 If you look at the history of the colonisation of the United States, you will find that the government built the first Forts in the wilderness but the real pioneers were those that camped outside and bypassed the formalities. This is a classic example of the same process. The small, totally insignificant professor is showing how to do the same thing NASA does, but at a totally insignificant cost. But the cost is not insignificant, indeed it is the forerunner of many that will follow and open up space to the rest of us. On the Cheap, yes, but no less successfully for all that. I for one salute them. If you look at the history of the colonisation of the United States, you will find that the government built the first Forts in the wilderness but the real pioneers were those that camped outside and bypassed the formalities. This is a classic example of the same process. The small, totally insignificant professor is showing how to do the same thing NASA does, but at a totally insignificant cost. But the cost is not insignificant, indeed it is the forerunner of many that will follow and open up space to the rest of us. On the Cheap, yes, but no less successfully for all that.

I for one salute them.

]]> By: link http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44168 link Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:40:41 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44168 uh huh uh huh

]]> By: Taqyon http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44151 Taqyon Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:20:19 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44151 Stunning achievement, this is probably one of the most important recent breakthroughs. Cost is what holds us back at the moment. Every $ saved brings us closer to our goal. And they offer to share the tech with NASA! Looks are irrelevant. Stunning achievement, this is probably one of the most important recent breakthroughs. Cost is what holds us back at the moment. Every $ saved brings us closer to our goal. And they offer to share the tech with NASA!

Looks are irrelevant.

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44149 dollhopf Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:11:37 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44149 not so far from this one http://armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home not so far from this one

http://armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44148 dollhopf Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:01:22 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44148 And I guess, it is also far more than Great Britain can offer. And I guess, it is also far more than Great Britain can offer.

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44147 dollhopf Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:58:31 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44147 buster, even if that lander "looks like a joke" in your opinion, it is by far more than the German aerospace research can offer for to go to the moon by now. buster, even if that lander "looks like a joke" in your opinion, it is by far more than the German aerospace research can offer for to go to the moon by now.

]]> By: Paul Eaton-Jones http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44146 Paul Eaton-Jones Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:49:23 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44146 Do they have an equivalent of April Fool's Day in Korea? Do they have an equivalent of April Fool's Day in Korea?

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44145 dollhopf Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:48:20 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44145 "The NARO space center, started as part of a national space development program, is now beginning to take shape on Oenaro island at the southwestern part of the Korean Peninsula." "The NARO space center, started as part of a national space development program, is now beginning to take shape on Oenaro island at the southwestern part of the Korean Peninsula."

]]> By: buster http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44131 buster Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:56:01 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44131 is this for real? that lander looks like a joke is this for real? that lander looks like a joke

]]> By: Silver Thread http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44123 Silver Thread Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:02:49 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44123 The title should read, "Koreans Plan to send Meth Lab to Moon". The title should read, "Koreans Plan to send Meth Lab to Moon".

]]> By: Ron http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44110 Ron Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:44:34 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44110 I've actually been inside the prototype that inflates, the one at NASA LaRC. It's small, as in kitchen pantry small. I've actually been inside the prototype that inflates, the one at NASA LaRC. It's small, as in kitchen pantry small.

]]> By: Dave http://www.universetoday.com/2008/12/01/made-in-korea-lunar-lander-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-44082 Dave Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:29:19 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=21732#comment-44082 It is not SpaceDev, although It looks similar with that arc. It is not SpaceDev, although It looks similar with that arc.

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