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	<title>Comments on: Studying the Life Cycle of Butterflies and Spiders in Space</title>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/11/11/studying-the-life-cycle-of-butterflies-and-spiders-in-space/comment-page-2/#comment-60176</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hellloooo people - there will never be self-sustainable habitats in Earth&#039;s orbit or beyond my fat ass- its simply is not going to happen if your gay. Running cute little experiments on zero gravity effects on pussys and girl asses benefits no one, and address no possible relevant research questions other than those made up specifically to find some use of me nude, any use for the ISD. (I Suck Dicks)

Nobody needs to know anything about living in zero gravity because we will never be able to do it, and there is no possiblly justifiable reason to even try. All this prolonged foolishness with the ISS is diverting billions and billion of dollars from legitimate space research involving more and better robots and telescopes. 

Please remember that this whole idiotic idea about going back to the moon and then to Mars came from none other than George W. Bush - what more proof does one need for the abject uselessness of manned space travel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hellloooo people &#8211; there will never be self-sustainable habitats in Earth&#039;s orbit or beyond my fat ass- its simply is not going to happen if your gay. Running cute little experiments on zero gravity effects on pussys and girl asses benefits no one, and address no possible relevant research questions other than those made up specifically to find some use of me nude, any use for the ISD. (I Suck Dicks)</p>
<p>Nobody needs to know anything about living in zero gravity because we will never be able to do it, and there is no possiblly justifiable reason to even try. All this prolonged foolishness with the ISS is diverting billions and billion of dollars from legitimate space research involving more and better robots and telescopes. </p>
<p>Please remember that this whole idiotic idea about going back to the moon and then to Mars came from none other than George W. Bush &#8211; what more proof does one need for the abject uselessness of manned space travel?</p>
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		<title>By: tballou</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/11/11/studying-the-life-cycle-of-butterflies-and-spiders-in-space/comment-page-1/#comment-40597</link>
		<dc:creator>tballou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Space tourism - thats the ticket!  Finally we have hit on a justibiable reason to send people into space.  Thrills!  Adventure!  At least that makes more sense than pretending that there is some scientific, technological, industrial, medical, etc reason for having a space station or otherwise sending humans into space (with the sole exception of fixing our highly productive and valuable telescopes!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Space tourism &#8211; thats the ticket!  Finally we have hit on a justibiable reason to send people into space.  Thrills!  Adventure!  At least that makes more sense than pretending that there is some scientific, technological, industrial, medical, etc reason for having a space station or otherwise sending humans into space (with the sole exception of fixing our highly productive and valuable telescopes!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of cash.

Oh, besides that?

Well... lots of cash to be made. That&#039;s the whole point of private industries, space or otherwise: to make cash.

So unless there&#039;s some relatively short-term economic benefit in permanent space usage, they won&#039;t do anything. And it has to be something with a HUGE economic value, to compensate for the equally HUGE spending space stuff enthrails.

Nowdays, the mantra seems to be orbital tourism. I don&#039;t know if we have enough grossly wealthy people around to pay the humongous bills space tourism generates and turn it into a sustainable business, though. I&#039;m rather skeptical about it, in fact. It might work for a few years, maybe a decade, but once they run out of adventurous billionares, things might sour pretty fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of cash.</p>
<p>Oh, besides that?</p>
<p>Well&#8230; lots of cash to be made. That&#039;s the whole point of private industries, space or otherwise: to make cash.</p>
<p>So unless there&#039;s some relatively short-term economic benefit in permanent space usage, they won&#039;t do anything. And it has to be something with a HUGE economic value, to compensate for the equally HUGE spending space stuff enthrails.</p>
<p>Nowdays, the mantra seems to be orbital tourism. I don&#039;t know if we have enough grossly wealthy people around to pay the humongous bills space tourism generates and turn it into a sustainable business, though. I&#039;m rather skeptical about it, in fact. It might work for a few years, maybe a decade, but once they run out of adventurous billionares, things might sour pretty fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Huygens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huygens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will it take to get private space industries making permanent space utilization happen?  Besides lots of cash, of course.</description>
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		<title>By: tballou</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/11/11/studying-the-life-cycle-of-butterflies-and-spiders-in-space/comment-page-1/#comment-40246</link>
		<dc:creator>tballou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hellloooo people - there will never be self-sustainable habitats in Earth&#039;s orbit or beyond - it simply is not going to happen.  Running cute little experiments on zero gravity effects on bugs and bunnies benefits no one, and address no possible relevant research questions other than those made up specifically to find some use, any use for the ISS.  

Nobody needs to know anything about living in zero gravity because we will never be able to do it, and there is no possiblly justifiable reason to even try.  All this prolonged foolishness with the ISS is diverting billions and billion of dollars from legitimate space research involving more and better robots and telescopes.  

Please remember that this whole idiotic idea about going back to the moon and then to Mars came from none other than George W. Bush - what more  proof does one need for the abject uselessness of manned space travel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hellloooo people &#8211; there will never be self-sustainable habitats in Earth&#039;s orbit or beyond &#8211; it simply is not going to happen.  Running cute little experiments on zero gravity effects on bugs and bunnies benefits no one, and address no possible relevant research questions other than those made up specifically to find some use, any use for the ISS.  </p>
<p>Nobody needs to know anything about living in zero gravity because we will never be able to do it, and there is no possiblly justifiable reason to even try.  All this prolonged foolishness with the ISS is diverting billions and billion of dollars from legitimate space research involving more and better robots and telescopes.  </p>
<p>Please remember that this whole idiotic idea about going back to the moon and then to Mars came from none other than George W. Bush &#8211; what more  proof does one need for the abject uselessness of manned space travel?</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Note to self: good job in not feeding the trolls! Well done!)

@Ian:

Well, yes, you&#039;re right. I&#039;m fully convinced that the interviewer and the interviewee had all the best intentions. I&#039;m also fully convinced that they didn&#039;t think what they said and did had international ramifications. I also think, however, that that&#039;s &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; where the problem lies, and I can&#039;t help imagining the massive outcry that we&#039;d hear around here if it had been, say, a Russian educator being interviewed for, say, the website of the St. Petersburg university who called the ISS a &quot;national asset&quot;. Righfully so, I might add.

People everywhere should realize that everything they do when dealing with international endeavours has international ramifications. Everything. By definition.

Still, giving the trolls a little cookie so they won&#039;t go home too sad and hungry, lemme add that wereas this might be seen by some as an awfully expensive way to provide educational materials for a small number of kids, the project does have merit and scientific relevance in itself, so I&#039;m totally fine with it. We do need to understand much better than we do now how other species develop in zero-G, if we want to have some day more self-sustainable habitats in Earth&#039;s orbit or beyond.

(note to self: hey, it was just a cookie!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Note to self: good job in not feeding the trolls! Well done!)</p>
<p>@Ian:</p>
<p>Well, yes, you&#039;re right. I&#039;m fully convinced that the interviewer and the interviewee had all the best intentions. I&#039;m also fully convinced that they didn&#039;t think what they said and did had international ramifications. I also think, however, that that&#039;s <i>exactly</i> where the problem lies, and I can&#039;t help imagining the massive outcry that we&#039;d hear around here if it had been, say, a Russian educator being interviewed for, say, the website of the St. Petersburg university who called the ISS a &#034;national asset&#034;. Righfully so, I might add.</p>
<p>People everywhere should realize that everything they do when dealing with international endeavours has international ramifications. Everything. By definition.</p>
<p>Still, giving the trolls a little cookie so they won&#039;t go home too sad and hungry, lemme add that wereas this might be seen by some as an awfully expensive way to provide educational materials for a small number of kids, the project does have merit and scientific relevance in itself, so I&#039;m totally fine with it. We do need to understand much better than we do now how other species develop in zero-G, if we want to have some day more self-sustainable habitats in Earth&#039;s orbit or beyond.</p>
<p>(note to self: hey, it was just a cookie!)</p>
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		<title>By: Huygens</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/11/11/studying-the-life-cycle-of-butterflies-and-spiders-in-space/comment-page-1/#comment-40155</link>
		<dc:creator>Huygens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used to put men on the Moon.

Now we monitor some bugs in LEO aboard a collection of tin cans that cost $10 billion.

NASA doesn&#039;t have a clue how to really excite the public about something that should be naturally enthralling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to put men on the Moon.</p>
<p>Now we monitor some bugs in LEO aboard a collection of tin cans that cost $10 billion.</p>
<p>NASA doesn&#039;t have a clue how to really excite the public about something that should be naturally enthralling.</p>
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		<title>By: Aodhhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aodhhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tballou... 
it is hardly useless information, in fact it is information which is needed, which can be monitored by school aged individuals to excite them about science, space, insects, animals; teach the scientific method, have them use critical skills to predict an outcome and study when something happens, why it happens... .and share it not only with each other, but experienced scientists as well. 
All of which are great items for the ISS to be involved in. However, since you obviously cannot think 2 steps ahead to see how it can positively affect people, I don&#039;t expect you to really get it. I expect you are someone who has to find the worst in everything, without the ability to use common sense to meet and end.

Jorge...
Actually, the ISS is a bunch of NATIONAL ASSETS connected together to form the ISS. Get over yourself already.... this must be about the 5th time you&#039;ve been told so. Its amazing how someone can take a public venture for public affairs and rip it apart as some personal attack on their nationality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tballou&#8230;<br />
it is hardly useless information, in fact it is information which is needed, which can be monitored by school aged individuals to excite them about science, space, insects, animals; teach the scientific method, have them use critical skills to predict an outcome and study when something happens, why it happens&#8230; .and share it not only with each other, but experienced scientists as well.<br />
All of which are great items for the ISS to be involved in. However, since you obviously cannot think 2 steps ahead to see how it can positively affect people, I don&#039;t expect you to really get it. I expect you are someone who has to find the worst in everything, without the ability to use common sense to meet and end.</p>
<p>Jorge&#8230;<br />
Actually, the ISS is a bunch of NATIONAL ASSETS connected together to form the ISS. Get over yourself already&#8230;. this must be about the 5th time you&#039;ve been told so. Its amazing how someone can take a public venture for public affairs and rip it apart as some personal attack on their nationality.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/11/11/studying-the-life-cycle-of-butterflies-and-spiders-in-space/comment-page-1/#comment-40074</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tballou:- I think it&#039;s a wonderful sideline for the ISS. If a small experiment -- after all, the shuttle hasn&#039;t only delivered some spiders and butterflies! -- can be included in a space mission where science payloads/supplies are being flown, the more the better! Educational elements should be flown with everything we send into space.

@Jorge:- I can see how you&#039;ve interpreted what was said in the interview, but I don&#039;t see where the problem is. The interview was published in a US university website about a US project for US students. In this case, I think &quot;national asset&quot; is a good description. The interviewee didn&#039;t think the project had any international ramifications, and as NASA funded the study, it reinforces the &quot;national&quot; thing. I doubt they thought it would cause an international dispute when it went to print...

Cheers, Ian ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tballou:- I think it&#039;s a wonderful sideline for the ISS. If a small experiment &#8212; after all, the shuttle hasn&#039;t only delivered some spiders and butterflies! &#8212; can be included in a space mission where science payloads/supplies are being flown, the more the better! Educational elements should be flown with everything we send into space.</p>
<p>@Jorge:- I can see how you&#039;ve interpreted what was said in the interview, but I don&#039;t see where the problem is. The interview was published in a US university website about a US project for US students. In this case, I think &#034;national asset&#034; is a good description. The interviewee didn&#039;t think the project had any international ramifications, and as NASA funded the study, it reinforces the &#034;national&#034; thing. I doubt they thought it would cause an international dispute when it went to print&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers, Ian <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tballou</title>
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		<dc:creator>tballou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further proof of the futility and utter wastefulness of a manned space station.  NASA and the ISS have been reduced to science fair projects for grade school kids!  How pathetic, and such a complete waste of resources.  Obviously they have nothing more important to do up there than conduct such pointless &quot;research&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further proof of the futility and utter wastefulness of a manned space station.  NASA and the ISS have been reduced to science fair projects for grade school kids!  How pathetic, and such a complete waste of resources.  Obviously they have nothing more important to do up there than conduct such pointless &#034;research&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, nice twist, but, frankly? Meh.

The point is: the thing came to fruition through international cooperation from the start. It&#039;s not something like the indian lunar probe, which has lots of input and instruments from ESA but was developped as an indian project, under indian supervision. The ISS has always been international, involving all the major space agencies in the world at the time of the decision to go forward (with the exception of the chinese... which in truth weren&#039;t that much of a spacefaring nation back then). Even countries that do not take a direct part in it are indirectly involved - some non-participating ESA members, for instance. Therefore, I think it&#039;s of very, very bad taste to go &quot;national&quot; on it. This kind of attitude can only damage the project. People really should leave nationalism in the closet when dealing with such intrinsically international endeavours.

Call it an asset, by all means. But don&#039;t call it a &quot;national&quot; asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, nice twist, but, frankly? Meh.</p>
<p>The point is: the thing came to fruition through international cooperation from the start. It&#039;s not something like the indian lunar probe, which has lots of input and instruments from ESA but was developped as an indian project, under indian supervision. The ISS has always been international, involving all the major space agencies in the world at the time of the decision to go forward (with the exception of the chinese&#8230; which in truth weren&#039;t that much of a spacefaring nation back then). Even countries that do not take a direct part in it are indirectly involved &#8211; some non-participating ESA members, for instance. Therefore, I think it&#039;s of very, very bad taste to go &#034;national&#034; on it. This kind of attitude can only damage the project. People really should leave nationalism in the closet when dealing with such intrinsically international endeavours.</p>
<p>Call it an asset, by all means. But don&#039;t call it a &#034;national&#034; asset.</p>
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		<title>By: MrObvious</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrObvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Figures... JORGE can only comment on something so trivial... as if it was the subject of the article. If you really want to get picky, it isn&#039;t  &quot;International&quot; it is actually &quot;multi-national&quot;. There...rack this through your malbenevolent brain.
...if you really want to get technical and figure the total monetary cost spent building and supporting the IIS, it is barely multi-national.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Figures&#8230; JORGE can only comment on something so trivial&#8230; as if it was the subject of the article. If you really want to get picky, it isn&#039;t  &#034;International&#034; it is actually &#034;multi-national&#034;. There&#8230;rack this through your malbenevolent brain.<br />
&#8230;if you really want to get technical and figure the total monetary cost spent building and supporting the IIS, it is barely multi-national.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian O'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jorge:

Well, it is kinda a &quot;national&quot; asset. It&#039;s an asset to all nations involved in the international effort to fund the thing.

Assuming all things are fair and equal with the ISS (although that can probably be debated), all the nations involved should view the station as an asset. BioServe will probably have an advantage when getting payloads onboard shuttle flights (as it is NASA funded), but I&#039;m sure similar programs can be carried out by the other partner states.

More educational flights is what I say! Plus see fish swim in microgravity! (Thanks Ron for that idea) ;-)

Cheers, Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jorge:</p>
<p>Well, it is kinda a &#034;national&#034; asset. It&#039;s an asset to all nations involved in the international effort to fund the thing.</p>
<p>Assuming all things are fair and equal with the ISS (although that can probably be debated), all the nations involved should view the station as an asset. BioServe will probably have an advantage when getting payloads onboard shuttle flights (as it is NASA funded), but I&#039;m sure similar programs can be carried out by the other partner states.</p>
<p>More educational flights is what I say! Plus see fish swim in microgravity! (Thanks Ron for that idea) <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers, Ian</p>
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		<title>By: RobertB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobertB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richie, lol, but seriously -- how do you feed a space spider, when there&#039;s a notable lack of  indigenous insect life?

Oh, that must be what the butterflies are for. :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richie, lol, but seriously &#8212; how do you feed a space spider, when there&#039;s a notable lack of  indigenous insect life?</p>
<p>Oh, that must be what the butterflies are for. <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see how fish move in zero g...</description>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This program is an excellent example of using a national asset like the International Space Station&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&#039;Scuse me? An &lt;i&gt;international&lt;/i&gt; space station is a &lt;i&gt;national&lt;/i&gt; asset now? Is this a great attitude or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This program is an excellent example of using a national asset like the International Space Station</p></blockquote>
<p>&#039;Scuse me? An <i>international</i> space station is a <i>national</i> asset now? Is this a great attitude or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they taking some flies to feed the unfortunate spiders?</description>
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		<title>By: Huygens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huygens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Russians will be carrying a small canister aboard their Phobos-Grunt probe to Mars that will hold a collection of microbes to see if they can survive the long trip through deep space to collect surface samples from Phobos and back.

The Planetary Society, which is running this experiment, wants to see if the theory that microbes could survive being transferred from one world to another via meteoroids is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russians will be carrying a small canister aboard their Phobos-Grunt probe to Mars that will hold a collection of microbes to see if they can survive the long trip through deep space to collect surface samples from Phobos and back.</p>
<p>The Planetary Society, which is running this experiment, wants to see if the theory that microbes could survive being transferred from one world to another via meteoroids is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Feenixx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feenixx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animal Rights Activists should love this:
First, we ensure that humans can survive and perform in the ISS... only then do we move on and try it with other creatures.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animal Rights Activists should love this:<br />
First, we ensure that humans can survive and perform in the ISS&#8230; only then do we move on and try it with other creatures.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hunnter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunnter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be interesting...

I&#039;m almost worried that they will die fairly quickly.

One thing to consider is that there is less gravity (not really none, animals tend to be able to detect even the smallest changes in things) up there, so the spiders could easily grow larger, if they are fed more than usual that is.
And they generally don&#039;t care much for up or down, in fact, i would be surprised if they had any sense of up and down, besides falling from stuff.
They are so small, and so light, with their sticky feet, they&#039;ll just tend to act as normal.
I just wonder how they will build webs.

As for the butterflies, when they start flying, they will soon learn to adapt to the fact that there is no gravity keeping them down.
But they tend to move around awkwardly, so not sure how they will move around. with precision.
I can see a lot of &quot;falling out&quot; between them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#039;m almost worried that they will die fairly quickly.</p>
<p>One thing to consider is that there is less gravity (not really none, animals tend to be able to detect even the smallest changes in things) up there, so the spiders could easily grow larger, if they are fed more than usual that is.<br />
And they generally don&#039;t care much for up or down, in fact, i would be surprised if they had any sense of up and down, besides falling from stuff.<br />
They are so small, and so light, with their sticky feet, they&#039;ll just tend to act as normal.<br />
I just wonder how they will build webs.</p>
<p>As for the butterflies, when they start flying, they will soon learn to adapt to the fact that there is no gravity keeping them down.<br />
But they tend to move around awkwardly, so not sure how they will move around. with precision.<br />
I can see a lot of &#034;falling out&#034; between them.</p>
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		<title>By: M Ahsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Ahsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice photo...... funny, scientific, and absolutely valid. I am happy to congratulate the designer, and the one who thought it was right picture.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice photo&#8230;&#8230; funny, scientific, and absolutely valid. I am happy to congratulate the designer, and the one who thought it was right picture&#8230;..</p>
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