Comments on: New Search for Extraterrestrials Waits for No One, Er…, Everyone http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:14:11 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bridh Hancock http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34338 Bridh Hancock Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:54:11 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34338 Like it or not, watching is waiting and doing; and thinking and wondering is action. Putting our computerized observation machines onto automatic look&see is intelligent. Who knows, but something might be coming. Who knows but while waiting, watching and wondering, something significant might come. Periferal vision is important, is as important as waiting, watching and thinking. I read all this and then wrote this while listening to the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra and fortepianist Geofrey Lancaster played Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony. A poster on my wall says: 'Forests: a major player in climate calming'. Why tell you this? Truth and beauty impinge positively. What is beyond the DarkPull of DarkMatter? We can only watch, wait and wonder. It will be good. Like it or not, watching is waiting and doing; and thinking and wondering is action. Putting our computerized observation machines onto automatic look&see is intelligent. Who knows, but something might be coming. Who knows but while waiting, watching and wondering, something significant might come. Periferal vision is important, is as important as waiting, watching and thinking.

I read all this and then wrote this while listening to the Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra and fortepianist Geofrey Lancaster played Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony. A poster on my wall says: 'Forests: a major player in climate calming'.

Why tell you this? Truth and beauty impinge positively. What is beyond the DarkPull of DarkMatter? We can only watch, wait and wonder. It will be good.

]]> By: IonTruO2 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34329 IonTruO2 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:05:58 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34329 tick tick tick.....ok waiting is alot like human 'doing'. If I return to my Buddhist clarity, I will try human 'be.ing'. Ya that feels novel. Waiting is too much like expectation, I think I'll try just be.ing in witness consciousness. Oh darn I'll have to put that off..ie it'll have to wait. ;) cus I have to go feed the horse s, the dog, the cats, the baby.....ahhh the living world that whirled without end. No wait just the Now. :) tick tick tick…..ok waiting is alot like human 'doing'. If I return to my Buddhist clarity, I will try human 'be.ing'. Ya that feels novel. Waiting is too much like expectation, I think I'll try just be.ing in witness consciousness. Oh darn I'll have to put that off..ie it'll have to wait. ;) cus I have to go feed the horse s, the dog, the cats, the baby…..ahhh the living world that whirled without end. No wait just the Now. :)

]]> By: IonTruO2 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34327 IonTruO2 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:49:48 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34327 Waiting and waiting and waiting...duh I think we have all mastered it by now amidst the official obfuscation of these last many many years. Now is the time of 'disclosure' and that is not about bad science. Corso and Bob Dean and the others of serious repute have been laying out for years. Why is there still this grade 5 level posture of knowledge still being peddled?! Who is trying to prolong the denial, that we have been in contact for a long time? As Bob Dean and other have said, "they have always been here". Ok Ok I'll go and wait some more. Sad days these are and will be recorded as for all history. Waiting and waiting and waiting…duh I think we have all mastered it by now amidst the official obfuscation of these last many many years. Now is the time of 'disclosure' and that is not about bad science. Corso and Bob Dean and the others of serious repute have been laying out for years. Why is there still this grade 5 level posture of knowledge still being peddled?! Who is trying to prolong the denial, that we have been in contact for a long time? As Bob Dean and other have said, "they have always been here".
Ok Ok I'll go and wait some more. Sad days these are and will be recorded as for all history.

]]> By: Amir Mohammad http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34275 Amir Mohammad Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:01:12 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34275 it is 3 billion years which we are waiting! if any ufo could find our earth in these billions of years, had an effect on it. but there is nothing improvable! it is 3 billion years which we are waiting! if any ufo could find our earth in these billions of years, had an effect on it. but there is nothing improvable!

]]> By: Kevin M. http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34268 Kevin M. Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:53:43 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34268 The serious suggestion behind this funny article being, isn't the vast scope of SETI an impossible goal? Isn't it becoming prohibitively expensive to build experiments such as the LHC? Haven't cosmology and particle physics hit a road block of practicality if we can't afford to go to Mars or find the HIggs-Boson without spending the GDP of small countries? Maybe mankind is fooling itself, and it is time to look within for answers. After all, Newton and Einstein made giant leaps, not by conquering other worlds, but simply by thinking deeper into the same old world that was observable in front of their noses. The discovery of interstellar travel or time travel will happen via a pencil on paper or marker on white-board. The most fundamental discoveries happen during the downtime between explorations, in other words, more discoveries happen in the mind than in the world. The serious suggestion behind this funny article being, isn't the vast scope of SETI an impossible goal? Isn't it becoming prohibitively expensive to build experiments such as the LHC? Haven't cosmology and particle physics hit a road block of practicality if we can't afford to go to Mars or find the HIggs-Boson without spending the GDP of small countries? Maybe mankind is fooling itself, and it is time to look within for answers. After all, Newton and Einstein made giant leaps, not by conquering other worlds, but simply by thinking deeper into the same old world that was observable in front of their noses. The discovery of interstellar travel or time travel will happen via a pencil on paper or marker on white-board. The most fundamental discoveries happen during the downtime between explorations, in other words, more discoveries happen in the mind than in the world.

]]> By: Nancy Atkinson http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34227 Nancy Atkinson Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:44:41 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34227 I'm with Tim. Lighten up folks. I've had the chance to meet lots of astronomers and folks in the space sector, and they all have a great sense of humor, which I find endearing and just plain fun. Plus it was fun to write something tongue in cheek for a change. I'm with Tim. Lighten up folks. I've had the chance to meet lots of astronomers and folks in the space sector, and they all have a great sense of humor, which I find endearing and just plain fun. Plus it was fun to write something tongue in cheek for a change.

]]> By: Tim http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34209 Tim Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:48:04 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34209 Hmm, this started as a witty, funny refreshing change from the norm. Posts seems to have taken it to ..... err Not suprising though. Hmm, this started as a witty, funny refreshing change from the norm.
Posts seems to have taken it to ….. err
Not suprising though.

]]> By: Tyler Durden http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-34150 Tyler Durden Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:46:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34150 "Don't put on ideological blinders then contemptuously declare that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. All you're showing is your elitist non-compromising attitude that betters no one." What's wrong is wrong. There is no compromising with injustice, ineptitude, and murder. This group is a bunch of thieves, liars, and murderers and if there were any justice in our so-called democracy those who caused the death of 100,000 Iraqis in the name of freedom, the torturing of prisoners of war, and the conversion fo the US from a free state to totalitarian rule, would be facing a firing squad. "Don't put on ideological blinders then contemptuously declare that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. All you're showing is your elitist non-compromising attitude that betters no one."

What's wrong is wrong.

There is no compromising with injustice, ineptitude, and murder.

This group is a bunch of thieves, liars, and murderers and if there were any justice in our so-called democracy those who caused the death of 100,000 Iraqis in the name of freedom, the torturing of prisoners of war, and the conversion fo the US from a free state to totalitarian rule, would be facing a firing squad.

]]> By: Shawn http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34117 Shawn Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:35:17 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34117 My sense of irony was handling this whole thing okay until I got to this bit... "Tyler Durden says *lots of things which I mostly agree with* Witnessing the collapse of western civilization is so depressing. I think I'll go play some vidjagames." I think your namesake would want you to make some popcorn and relax in the La-Z-Boy to witness that! That's my plan at this point, anyway. My sense of irony was handling this whole thing okay until I got to this bit…

"Tyler Durden says

*lots of things which I mostly agree with*

Witnessing the collapse of western civilization is so depressing. I think I'll go play some vidjagames."

I think your namesake would want you to make some popcorn and relax in the La-Z-Boy to witness that!

That's my plan at this point, anyway.

]]> By: Joe Shobe http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34113 Joe Shobe Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:46:50 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34113 Sorry, I can't wait any longer. Let's go find some extraterrestrial unintelligent life nearby and teach it something. Sorry, I can't wait any longer. Let's go find some extraterrestrial unintelligent life nearby and teach it something.

]]> By: mathieu van leeuwen http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34112 mathieu van leeuwen Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:42:28 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34112 Bob's right! All the life here on Earth that is wiped out... WETI is dumb late romanticism. Bob's right!
All the life here on Earth that is wiped out…
WETI is dumb late romanticism.

]]> By: Terragen http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34109 Terragen Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:37:28 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34109 When I read this I thought it HAD to be April Fools day again. What kind of joke is this? This is where humanity has come. I think the world is ending BEFORE 2012 people... When I read this I thought it HAD to be April Fools day again. What kind of joke is this? This is where humanity has come. I think the world is ending BEFORE 2012 people…

]]> By: mike http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34108 mike Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:35:01 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34108 So they have finally devised a way of getting payed to do nothing... Count me in! I can wait! Im an expert on waiting! Even more so if i were to get payed for it. Infact, i'd be sooo perfect for the job, it might be hard to find others as qualified. So they have finally devised a way of getting payed to do nothing… Count me in! I can wait! Im an expert on waiting! Even more so if i were to get payed for it. Infact, i'd be sooo perfect for the job, it might be hard to find others as qualified.

]]> By: Malcolm http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34107 Malcolm Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:33:44 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34107 I'd like to donate some of my waiting time to this research project, namely - Waiting for my income tax returm Waiting in line at Tim Horton's Waiting for a public toilet There's more, do I get some kind of recognition? A badge to sew on my jacket would be nice, but no rush, I can wait I'd like to donate some of my waiting time to this research project, namely -
Waiting for my income tax returm
Waiting in line at Tim Horton's
Waiting for a public toilet
There's more, do I get some kind of recognition? A badge to sew on my jacket would be nice, but no rush, I can wait

]]> By: Chris http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34103 Chris Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:37:55 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34103 Tyler and Astrofiend, you're misguided. Your jaded and depressing worldview is blatant. The collapse of Western Civilization? Calling Bush a moron? It's easy to scapegoat and predict doom. Blame does nothing. However, America is still a world superpower. At our worst times, we're still more robust than nearly any other country out there. Even during the Great Depression, we managed to bounce back healthier than ever. Don't put on ideological blinders then contemptuously declare that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. All you're showing is your elitist non-compromising attitude that betters no one. Tyler and Astrofiend, you're misguided. Your jaded and depressing worldview is blatant. The collapse of Western Civilization? Calling Bush a moron? It's easy to scapegoat and predict doom. Blame does nothing. However, America is still a world superpower. At our worst times, we're still more robust than nearly any other country out there. Even during the Great Depression, we managed to bounce back healthier than ever. Don't put on ideological blinders then contemptuously declare that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong. All you're showing is your elitist non-compromising attitude that betters no one.

]]> By: Todd Sieling http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34102 Todd Sieling Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:34:19 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34102 I love it. It's like the Slow movement meets astronomy. I love it. It's like the Slow movement meets astronomy.

]]> By: ZardozBigHead http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34101 ZardozBigHead Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:16:42 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34101 And now we wait to see if our economy collapses thanks to others who clearly did not have our best interests at heart. Maybe when ETI do show up, they will only find crumbling remains and the surviving members of our species living among the ruins like animals. I wonder - are other intelligent species in the Universe as short-sighted and self-destructive as us? Or are we unique in our stupidity and greed? And now we wait to see if our economy collapses thanks to others who clearly did not have our best interests at heart.

Maybe when ETI do show up, they will only find crumbling remains and the surviving members of our species living among the ruins like animals.

I wonder – are other intelligent species in the Universe as short-sighted and self-destructive as us? Or are we unique in our stupidity and greed?

]]> By: ad koppen http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34093 ad koppen Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:12:54 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34093 WETI fits perfect in our future society, instead of doing something or take the initiative , NO, we wait and wait, we wait until your Boss is come to get you, we wait for groceries at home to maybe arrive, also we wait with sex, yes let us all wait, because of the co2 levels. begin tomorrow with WAIT. WETI fits perfect in our future society, instead of doing something or take the initiative , NO, we wait and wait, we wait until your Boss is come to get you, we wait for groceries at home to maybe arrive, also we wait with sex, yes let us all wait, because of the co2 levels. begin tomorrow with WAIT.

]]> By: John in Missouri http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34088 John in Missouri Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:28:45 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34088 I'm waiting for a response from my brain on this one... I'm waiting for a response from my brain on this one…

]]> By: ANNUNAKAI http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34087 ANNUNAKAI Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:23:26 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34087 WAITING IS USELESS RESISTENCE IS FUTILE WE ARE ALREADY HERE WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR EONS WAITING IS USELESS

RESISTENCE IS FUTILE

WE ARE ALREADY HERE

WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR EONS

]]> By: ANNUNAKAI http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34085 ANNUNAKAI Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:19:21 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34085 WAITING IS USELESS RESISTENCE IS FUTILE WE ARE ALREADY HERE WAITING IS USELESS

RESISTENCE IS FUTILE

WE ARE ALREADY HERE

]]> By: RL http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34080 RL Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:47:33 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34080 I can't wait to get a t-shirt and a coffee mugs. Everyone will be jealous. I can't wait to get a t-shirt and a coffee mugs. Everyone will be jealous.

]]> By: xyz http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34079 xyz Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:27:06 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34079 im waitin.... im waitin….

]]> By: joe http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34074 joe Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:56:35 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34074 Isn't this what happens when you wait in the rain too long Isn't this what happens when you wait in the rain too long

]]> By: Dominion http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/25/new-search-for-extraterrestrials-waits-for-no-one-er-everyone/comment-page-2/#comment-34070 Dominion Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:45:03 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=18608#comment-34070 I'm already part of a waiting organization. WAMES is the Wait for the Ability of Magic and Extraordinary Senses. I'm considering joining WIMPS as well. That's the Wait for the Idea of a Mostly Peaceful Society. This one's still fighting for recognition though. I'm already part of a waiting organization. WAMES is the Wait for the Ability of Magic and Extraordinary Senses. I'm considering joining WIMPS as well. That's the Wait for the Idea of a Mostly Peaceful Society. This one's still fighting for recognition though.

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