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	<title>Comments on: The Wall &#8211; NGC 7000 Region by Kent Wood</title>
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		<title>By: levi sehie</title>
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		<dc:creator>levi sehie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was curious as to what filter you would need to see this with a scope. thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was curious as to what filter you would need to see this with a scope. thanks</p>
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		<title>By: T. Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Wright the keyboard player for Pink Floyd just died of cancer.RIP</description>
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		<title>By: marcellus</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcellus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be too hard on Patrick Moore, Jeff. He&#039;s done a lot for astronomy over the years including having the longest running TV show on our hobby in history.

If you check, you&#039;ll find that the Astronomical League includes a Caldwell Club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#039;t be too hard on Patrick Moore, Jeff. He&#039;s done a lot for astronomy over the years including having the longest running TV show on our hobby in history.</p>
<p>If you check, you&#039;ll find that the Astronomical League includes a Caldwell Club.</p>
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		<title>By: von Dawson's Express</title>
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		<dc:creator>von Dawson's Express</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder what this bueaty would look like from the other side...   guess we will never know....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder what this bueaty would look like from the other side&#8230;   guess we will never know&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s always appropriate and appreciated.  it&#039;s also a link as his name in the article, too.  kent is an oustanding astrophotographer and we&#039;re working on some very cool projects for the future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#039;s always appropriate and appreciated.  it&#039;s also a link as his name in the article, too.  kent is an oustanding astrophotographer and we&#039;re working on some very cool projects for the future!</p>
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		<title>By: simcop2387</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/14/the-wall-ngc-7000-region-by-kent-wood/comment-page-1/#comment-32925</link>
		<dc:creator>simcop2387</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.pbase.com/kvwood/

not sure if its appropriate but i figured i&#039;d plug kents site here, he&#039;s got alot of great pictures.</description>
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<p>not sure if its appropriate but i figured i&#039;d plug kents site here, he&#039;s got alot of great pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally - I preferred &#039;Dark Side of the Moon&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally &#8211; I preferred &#039;Dark Side of the Moon&#039;</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/14/the-wall-ngc-7000-region-by-kent-wood/comment-page-1/#comment-32891</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vanamonde?  Cool...  I was a bit afraid no one would quite get my aging references to Pink Floyd.  ;)

Alan?  My oops.  It is polycyclic and the article has been changed to reflect that.  (this is what happens to your brain after you get old and listened to a whole lot of pink floyd and did things you advise others not to do when you were young but still did &#039;em and probably still would if given half a chance.)  Whenever I feature an astrophoto, I like to do more than just look at a pretty picture, so here&#039;s the scoop on what we learned last time:


&quot;What this comes down to is carbon nanoparticles are out there in the interstellar medium. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons - or PAHs - are molecules constructed of benzene rings that look like segments of single layers of graphite. If you were here on Earth? You&#039;d find them everywhereâ€¦ coming out of your car&#039;s exhaust, stuck to the top of your grill, coating the inside of your fireplace. Apparently we&#039;re picking up the signature of PAHs in Unidentified Infra-Red emission bands, Diffuse Interstellar Bands and a UV extinction bump in NGC 7023 - but what the heck is it doing there?

According to research, it&#039;s entirely possible these PAHs may have formed in the dust when the grains collided and fractured - releasing free PAHs. They could have grown between smaller unsaturated hydrocarbon molecules and radicals in the remnants of carbon rich stars. Science just doesn&#039;t really know. But one thing they do knowâ€¦ Once a PAH is there, it is extremely stable and extremely efficient at rapidly re-emitting the absorbed energy at infra-red wavelengths.&quot;

Now!  Jeff?  Heheheheeee....  I can&#039;t go knockin&#039; Sir Patrick Moore.  He created an alternative observing list with the Caldwells and if I could get away with publishing a book of my own observing favorites, I probably would.  I can see it now... &quot;The Plotner Project&quot;...  288 of your favorite deep sky gems... all listed by RA except for...  oops!  Anyhow, no offense.  You&#039;ve made a very valid point and it should be noted to readers that the Caldwell objects are an observing list and not a genuine catalog of studies.

For Autumn and Richard...

Remember when it comes to seeing the North American Nebula, it&#039;s BIG.  If you&#039;re observing from a dark sky site dark enough to pick out the Andromeda Galaxy easily, chances are you can see NGC 7000, too.  The whole complex is about the size of a vanilla wafer held at arm&#039;s length and bigger than most binocular fields!  The problem is, once you apply optics to it, the optics dim the already low surface brightness and magnfication means you&#039;re looking a just a few trees and not the whole forest.  Here&#039;s a map to give you an idea of what you&#039;re up against.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/cygnus_map.jpg&quot;&gt;

Now, the second thing to remember is that it is dim.  Kick back in a lawn chair and just start looking in the area but not directly at it.  (yep.  averted vision.)  You&#039;ll pick out that hazy cloud, but the problem is your eye wants to go directly to it to try and identify the shape.  Look for a silver-ness...  A patch that definitely glows and stands out from the general starfields.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/namerica.jpg&quot;&gt;

Image courtesy of the Hawaiian Astronomical Society

Then what happens?  Ooops.  There it goes.  You&#039;ve lost it because you looked directly at it.  This is why we can only see the NGC 7000 &quot;North American&quot; shape when it&#039;s photographed.  The whole thing is too dim to be focused directly on by the human eye and not all wavelengths of light can be caught by the human eye.  Special filters in telescopes go a long way to seeing details in small areas, though!

Bunnyman?  Giggle...  I&#039;m honored!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanamonde?  Cool&#8230;  I was a bit afraid no one would quite get my aging references to Pink Floyd.  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Alan?  My oops.  It is polycyclic and the article has been changed to reflect that.  (this is what happens to your brain after you get old and listened to a whole lot of pink floyd and did things you advise others not to do when you were young but still did &#039;em and probably still would if given half a chance.)  Whenever I feature an astrophoto, I like to do more than just look at a pretty picture, so here&#039;s the scoop on what we learned last time:</p>
<p>&#034;What this comes down to is carbon nanoparticles are out there in the interstellar medium. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons &#8211; or PAHs &#8211; are molecules constructed of benzene rings that look like segments of single layers of graphite. If you were here on Earth? You&#039;d find them everywhereâ€¦ coming out of your car&#039;s exhaust, stuck to the top of your grill, coating the inside of your fireplace. Apparently we&#039;re picking up the signature of PAHs in Unidentified Infra-Red emission bands, Diffuse Interstellar Bands and a UV extinction bump in NGC 7023 &#8211; but what the heck is it doing there?</p>
<p>According to research, it&#039;s entirely possible these PAHs may have formed in the dust when the grains collided and fractured &#8211; releasing free PAHs. They could have grown between smaller unsaturated hydrocarbon molecules and radicals in the remnants of carbon rich stars. Science just doesn&#039;t really know. But one thing they do knowâ€¦ Once a PAH is there, it is extremely stable and extremely efficient at rapidly re-emitting the absorbed energy at infra-red wavelengths.&#034;</p>
<p>Now!  Jeff?  Heheheheeee&#8230;.  I can&#039;t go knockin&#039; Sir Patrick Moore.  He created an alternative observing list with the Caldwells and if I could get away with publishing a book of my own observing favorites, I probably would.  I can see it now&#8230; &#034;The Plotner Project&#034;&#8230;  288 of your favorite deep sky gems&#8230; all listed by RA except for&#8230;  oops!  Anyhow, no offense.  You&#039;ve made a very valid point and it should be noted to readers that the Caldwell objects are an observing list and not a genuine catalog of studies.</p>
<p>For Autumn and Richard&#8230;</p>
<p>Remember when it comes to seeing the North American Nebula, it&#039;s BIG.  If you&#039;re observing from a dark sky site dark enough to pick out the Andromeda Galaxy easily, chances are you can see NGC 7000, too.  The whole complex is about the size of a vanilla wafer held at arm&#039;s length and bigger than most binocular fields!  The problem is, once you apply optics to it, the optics dim the already low surface brightness and magnfication means you&#039;re looking a just a few trees and not the whole forest.  Here&#039;s a map to give you an idea of what you&#039;re up against.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/cygnus_map.jpg"/></p>
<p>Now, the second thing to remember is that it is dim.  Kick back in a lawn chair and just start looking in the area but not directly at it.  (yep.  averted vision.)  You&#039;ll pick out that hazy cloud, but the problem is your eye wants to go directly to it to try and identify the shape.  Look for a silver-ness&#8230;  A patch that definitely glows and stands out from the general starfields.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/namerica.jpg"/></p>
<p>Image courtesy of the Hawaiian Astronomical Society</p>
<p>Then what happens?  Ooops.  There it goes.  You&#039;ve lost it because you looked directly at it.  This is why we can only see the NGC 7000 &#034;North American&#034; shape when it&#039;s photographed.  The whole thing is too dim to be focused directly on by the human eye and not all wavelengths of light can be caught by the human eye.  Special filters in telescopes go a long way to seeing details in small areas, though!</p>
<p>Bunnyman?  Giggle&#8230;  I&#039;m honored!  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bunnyman</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/14/the-wall-ngc-7000-region-by-kent-wood/comment-page-1/#comment-32884</link>
		<dc:creator>Bunnyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who combines astronomy and Pink Floyd gets my eternal devotion.  Will you marry me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who combines astronomy and Pink Floyd gets my eternal devotion.  Will you marry me?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, Canada too. But at least it has the 48 states and Mexico!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, Canada too. But at least it has the 48 states and Mexico!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Diaz</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/09/14/the-wall-ngc-7000-region-by-kent-wood/comment-page-1/#comment-32871</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shape of the North America Nebula is remarkably identical. Biggest difference is Alaska isn&#039;t there. Check it out! I saved the image.

http://calgary.rasc.ca/images/MoonAndNGC7000.gif</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shape of the North America Nebula is remarkably identical. Biggest difference is Alaska isn&#039;t there. Check it out! I saved the image.</p>
<p><a href="http://calgary.rasc.ca/images/MoonAndNGC7000.gif" rel="nofollow">http://calgary.rasc.ca/images/MoonAndNGC7000.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: autumn</title>
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		<dc:creator>autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, exactly, or even remotely, is &quot;shaped like the Gulf of Mexico&quot;?
I&#039;m used to fanciful names given to various objects, but am at a loss to understand the cited description.
A minor quibble to an excellent article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, exactly, or even remotely, is &#034;shaped like the Gulf of Mexico&#034;?<br />
I&#039;m used to fanciful names given to various objects, but am at a loss to understand the cited description.<br />
A minor quibble to an excellent article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone REALLY know it as Caldwell 20? IMO the Caldwel catalog was a publicity stunt by Patrick Moore (who should have known better). And a farce at that. After all, can anyone reading this blog claim to have seen the Cave Nebula? It&#039;s a Caldwell object. I have tried under dark skies and it is just &#039;suspected&#039; in my 45cm truss tube Newtonian. It woud be nice if we did not propagate this hoax known as the Caldwell Catalog on unsuspecting beginners. Its junk. Stick to Astronomical League observing programs like the Messiers, Herschels, globulars, and planetaries. Do not give credence to this farce by Moore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone REALLY know it as Caldwell 20? IMO the Caldwel catalog was a publicity stunt by Patrick Moore (who should have known better). And a farce at that. After all, can anyone reading this blog claim to have seen the Cave Nebula? It&#039;s a Caldwell object. I have tried under dark skies and it is just &#039;suspected&#039; in my 45cm truss tube Newtonian. It woud be nice if we did not propagate this hoax known as the Caldwell Catalog on unsuspecting beginners. Its junk. Stick to Astronomical League observing programs like the Messiers, Herschels, globulars, and planetaries. Do not give credence to this farce by Moore.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We learned about those Polyacrylic Aromatic Hydrocarbons, not long ago and just what they mean.&quot; 

I must have missed that, what do they mean?
Oh and should that be Polycyclic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;We learned about those Polyacrylic Aromatic Hydrocarbons, not long ago and just what they mean.&#034; </p>
<p>I must have missed that, what do they mean?<br />
Oh and should that be Polycyclic?</p>
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		<title>By: Vanamonde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanamonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger Waters would be proud!</description>
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