Comments on: Countdown to the Final Burn: ATV Jules Verne will Undock on September 5th http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:07:54 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: LoozooL http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-34332 LoozooL Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:55:50 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-34332 Seems like such a waste when there is a housing shortage. I could be a nice place to live and what a great view. Seems like such a waste when there is a housing shortage.
I could be a nice place to live and what a great view.

]]> By: Paul http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31373 Paul Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:19:27 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31373 Didn"t they just use it to steer the station away from some serious space junk. It sounds pretty handy to me Didn"t they just use it to steer the station away from some serious space junk.
It sounds pretty handy to me

]]> By: trux http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31354 trux Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:43:49 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31354 Can't they jusgt bring all the junk back to the Earth and sell it on eBay?! It could help financing the next flight. I bet that even the broken toilet would sell on eBay for an astronomic amount. Can't they jusgt bring all the junk back to the Earth and sell it on eBay?! It could help financing the next flight. I bet that even the broken toilet would sell on eBay for an astronomic amount.

]]> By: David http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31353 David Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:41:16 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31353 As someone who lives near the pacific, NZ, I wonder if NASA has consent to drop this POLLUTION into OUR oceans. I agree with Dominion above, lets keep it up there once we get it there. Push the wee dear into a better , safer orbit and leave it there. It could be a life boat a place to go to if things go wrong, a storeroom of old stuff, in the future this may be used in another project or maybe for museums? Mir too should have been left up there. There is far too much pollution of the atmosphere as these things launch, so we dont need any more dliberate pollutionn like this. If NASA dont stop this NZ will take its space needs elswhere.( joke) Does any one know if there has been permission given to NASA and the USA to polute our waters in this way? Maybe its time to show us the real space ships with the reverse engineered ships from area 51? DaViD As someone who lives near the pacific, NZ, I wonder if NASA has consent to drop this POLLUTION into OUR oceans.

I agree with Dominion above, lets keep it up there once we get it there. Push the wee dear into a better , safer orbit and leave it there. It could be a life boat a place to go to if things go wrong, a storeroom of old stuff, in the future this may be used in another project or maybe for museums?

Mir too should have been left up there.

There is far too much pollution of the atmosphere as these things launch, so we dont need any more dliberate pollutionn like this.
If NASA dont stop this NZ will take its space needs elswhere.( joke)

Does any one know if there has been permission given to NASA and the USA to polute our waters in this way?

Maybe its time to show us the real space ships with the reverse engineered ships from area 51?

DaViD

]]> By: Dominion http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31329 Dominion Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:21:15 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31329 "unwanted equipment"? just what are they throwing away? If we are ever going to have an orbital construction facility to create bigger ships then we will need all the equipment and resources we can get. There are plans to build a base on the moon. Why can't this thing be sent there? Going to need and want some equipment on the moon. And water too. Just seems such a waste to burn it all up just cause it can't be used right now. And the ATV is supposed to drop six tons of stuff into the ocean!?! I thought we were going to be thinking green now. Can anyone say pollution? Does the ATV have any remaining fuel in it? Wouldn't that be a toxic hazard? And we are just going to throw it in with the fish? We wonder why there are so many dead zones in the ocean now. Maybe cause we throw garbage and toxic waste in it all the time. I think it is time Nasa and Esa were made to be accountable for their actions. They do use tax dollars to fund their operations after all. "unwanted equipment"? just what are they throwing away? If we are ever going to have an orbital construction facility to create bigger ships then we will need all the equipment and resources we can get. There are plans to build a base on the moon. Why can't this thing be sent there? Going to need and want some equipment on the moon. And water too. Just seems such a waste to burn it all up just cause it can't be used right now. And the ATV is supposed to drop six tons of stuff into the ocean!?! I thought we were going to be thinking green now. Can anyone say pollution? Does the ATV have any remaining fuel in it? Wouldn't that be a toxic hazard? And we are just going to throw it in with the fish? We wonder why there are so many dead zones in the ocean now. Maybe cause we throw garbage and toxic waste in it all the time. I think it is time Nasa and Esa were made to be accountable for their actions. They do use tax dollars to fund their operations after all.

]]> By: Chuck Lam http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31325 Chuck Lam Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:56:37 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31325 Why contaminate the atmosphere with ISS crap? Why not simply jetson the trash outbound in a simple container with an obsolete mini-rocket. Thus sparing an already troubled atmoshpere with more of the same. Also, why waste an ATV vehicle? There must be useful serviceable hardware beneficial to the ISS joke. Damn! What are these morons spending our tax dollars thinking? Why contaminate the atmosphere with ISS crap? Why not simply jetson the trash outbound in a simple container with an obsolete mini-rocket. Thus sparing an already troubled atmoshpere with more of the same. Also, why waste an ATV vehicle? There must be useful serviceable hardware beneficial to the ISS joke. Damn! What are these morons spending our tax dollars thinking?

]]> By: Sili http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31317 Sili Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:45:08 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31317 Wait. They're going to jettison 110 l of water? Why?! Wait. They're going to jettison 110 l of water?
Why?!

]]> By: Jon Hanford http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31316 Jon Hanford Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:38:30 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31316 As Keith points out, ESA & NASA are already studying the Jules Verne as a manned ferry for astronauts to & from the ISS. With the impending Shuttle fleet retirement & political problems with the Russians, I would seriously increase funding to make this option materialize ASAP. This ATV's near flawless mission (including an autonomous docking withe the ISS), increased payload capabilities (for supplies, propellant & equipment) and using the ESAs' own heavy lift rocket would make this an ideal transport vehicle to and from the station. As I understand the situation, the ATV is already man-rated, so only a crew capsule must be fabricated & tested, then integrated with the ATV. Might be easier said than done, but examine the alternatives. NASA & ESA would both benefit greatly & I believe this could be accomplished in only a couple of years. They've developed a great ATV so now let's fully utilize its' potential. As Keith points out, ESA & NASA are already studying the Jules Verne as a manned ferry for astronauts to & from the ISS. With the impending Shuttle fleet retirement & political problems with the Russians, I would seriously increase funding to make this option materialize ASAP. This ATV's near flawless mission (including an autonomous docking withe the ISS), increased payload capabilities (for supplies, propellant & equipment) and using the ESAs' own heavy lift rocket would make this an ideal transport vehicle to and from the station. As I understand the situation, the ATV is already man-rated, so only a crew capsule must be fabricated & tested, then integrated with the ATV. Might be easier said than done, but examine the alternatives. NASA & ESA would both benefit greatly & I believe this could be accomplished in only a couple of years. They've developed a great ATV so now let's fully utilize its' potential.

]]> By: Keith http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31307 Keith Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:27:55 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31307 The current Russian supply modules also go exactly the same way. There will be further ATV launches in the future, it's just that it was not designed to be a reusable vehicle. However there are plans to adapt the ATV basic design into a cargo return vessel and even a man rated vehicle. The current Russian supply modules also go exactly the same way. There will be further ATV launches in the future, it's just that it was not designed to be a reusable vehicle.

However there are plans to adapt the ATV basic design into a cargo return vessel and even a man rated vehicle.

]]> By: Tyler Durden http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31298 Tyler Durden Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:47:41 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31298 ^ Agreed. You want to dispose of space trash, send it down with the astronauts, or just give it a shove in the right direction so it burns up in the atmosphere. No use destroying a perfectly good vehicle that could have been reused as such, or added to the space station as extra usable space. ^ Agreed. You want to dispose of space trash, send it down with the astronauts, or just give it a shove in the right direction so it burns up in the atmosphere. No use destroying a perfectly good vehicle that could have been reused as such, or added to the space station as extra usable space.

]]> By: Dominion http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/29/countdown-to-the-final-burn-atv-jules-verne-will-undock-on-september-5th/comment-page-1/#comment-31294 Dominion Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:20:10 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=17488#comment-31294 what a waste. what a waste.

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