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	<title>Comments on: Celestron Sky Maps and Star Finder &#8211; Start Out Right</title>
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		<title>By: David Lagesse</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/25/celestron-sky-maps-and-star-finder-start-out-right/comment-page-1/#comment-60541</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lagesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of  old &quot;Luminous Star Finder&quot; that I bought in 1988, but it was the 1986 version, so it was already two years out of date on the &#039;Planet Positions - Geocentric&#039;  list or chart on the back at the bottom.

When the original &#039;LSF&#039; expired at the end of 1989, I found a newer &#039;LSF&#039; and made a Xerox copy of the &#039;PP-G&#039; and taped it on, but it too was well into the time period listings.

So I bought two, and did not get the full value of four years use, for even one!

What I am ranting about is the Company that makes these things could sell updated charts that could be attached to the back, or they could post the latest chart on the Internet, and the users could print it out themselves on label paper.

Or are we supposed to buy a half outdated star chart, every two years, (because that is what you received, or what was in the store) and throw away the old one?

I teach Scouts astronomy and plenty of other skills, and can&#039;t afford to replace otherwise perfectly good teaching aids all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of  old &#034;Luminous Star Finder&#034; that I bought in 1988, but it was the 1986 version, so it was already two years out of date on the &#039;Planet Positions &#8211; Geocentric&#039;  list or chart on the back at the bottom.</p>
<p>When the original &#039;LSF&#039; expired at the end of 1989, I found a newer &#039;LSF&#039; and made a Xerox copy of the &#039;PP-G&#039; and taped it on, but it too was well into the time period listings.</p>
<p>So I bought two, and did not get the full value of four years use, for even one!</p>
<p>What I am ranting about is the Company that makes these things could sell updated charts that could be attached to the back, or they could post the latest chart on the Internet, and the users could print it out themselves on label paper.</p>
<p>Or are we supposed to buy a half outdated star chart, every two years, (because that is what you received, or what was in the store) and throw away the old one?</p>
<p>I teach Scouts astronomy and plenty of other skills, and can&#039;t afford to replace otherwise perfectly good teaching aids all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/25/celestron-sky-maps-and-star-finder-start-out-right/comment-page-1/#comment-30927</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:D

unfortunately, murphy&#039;s law dictates that all new telescopes must be accompanied by rain and clouds.

mark?  i thank you for the kind comments.  i got a lot of scathing remarks because many people felt the C65 was substandard.  personally, i enjoyed the heck out of the little guy and i thought it performed above and beyond the call for what an average toy costs... so i deeply appreciate knowing that others have also found satisfaction.  

(and yes, more small and inexpensive telescope reviews are on the way - but first i have to figure out how to be nice about one that made me incredibly frustrated.)

i&#039;m thinking if perhaps i review a rain gauge...  or how to study atmospheric phenomena...  do you think that will help?  look at it this way - you&#039;re getting a class A view of the M zero!</description>
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<p>unfortunately, murphy&#039;s law dictates that all new telescopes must be accompanied by rain and clouds.</p>
<p>mark?  i thank you for the kind comments.  i got a lot of scathing remarks because many people felt the C65 was substandard.  personally, i enjoyed the heck out of the little guy and i thought it performed above and beyond the call for what an average toy costs&#8230; so i deeply appreciate knowing that others have also found satisfaction.  </p>
<p>(and yes, more small and inexpensive telescope reviews are on the way &#8211; but first i have to figure out how to be nice about one that made me incredibly frustrated.)</p>
<p>i&#039;m thinking if perhaps i review a rain gauge&#8230;  or how to study atmospheric phenomena&#8230;  do you think that will help?  look at it this way &#8211; you&#039;re getting a class A view of the M zero!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/25/celestron-sky-maps-and-star-finder-start-out-right/comment-page-1/#comment-30823</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not totally related to this review, but the C65 review is way down the page and I&#039;m not sure you&#039;d be checking it anymore, so I figured I&#039;d post in here. Anyway, my C65 showed up today, and I&#039;m pretty impressed so far. I&#039;ve only been able to point it around the neighbourhood a bit (I&#039;m sure my neighbours are all sufficiently creeped out by now), and overall it seems to be a pretty nice item. I&#039;m really excited to actually get to use it, so I figured I should post a note thanking you for turning me on to it. Now if you could just review some sort of product that would make these obnoxious rain clouds go away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not totally related to this review, but the C65 review is way down the page and I&#039;m not sure you&#039;d be checking it anymore, so I figured I&#039;d post in here. Anyway, my C65 showed up today, and I&#039;m pretty impressed so far. I&#039;ve only been able to point it around the neighbourhood a bit (I&#039;m sure my neighbours are all sufficiently creeped out by now), and overall it seems to be a pretty nice item. I&#039;m really excited to actually get to use it, so I figured I should post a note thanking you for turning me on to it. Now if you could just review some sort of product that would make these obnoxious rain clouds go away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/25/celestron-sky-maps-and-star-finder-start-out-right/comment-page-1/#comment-30760</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your running Linux, you can load the education package and it has Kstars. You can set it up for your time, date and location to see your sky. Its pretty good and its free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your running Linux, you can load the education package and it has Kstars. You can set it up for your time, date and location to see your sky. Its pretty good and its free!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/25/celestron-sky-maps-and-star-finder-start-out-right/comment-page-1/#comment-30752</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with David! Thanks for that review - it&#039;s just what I was looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with David! Thanks for that review &#8211; it&#039;s just what I was looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/25/celestron-sky-maps-and-star-finder-start-out-right/comment-page-1/#comment-30730</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning, David.  When Fraser first asked me to do product reviews several years ago, I was a little leery.  I refused because I don&#039;t like the idea of pitting one product against another - which reviews so often so.  When he asked again, I decided I go ahead and give it a try this time, but in my own style.  (and many thanks to fraser for permitting me that style.)  I take my cues from what UT readers seem to want - from very, very inexpensive telescopes and a way of learning the night sky on their own - to equipment few of us can easily afford, but deserves its place in the sun, too.  (and may heaven help me when i get ahold of products from a certain company that consistently have design flaws lest i be accused of being preferential!)

This particular book might not be the best for every single person out there - just like the C65 isn&#039;t the world&#039;s best small spotter scope...  But if a few dollars here and there teaches you how to begin and inspires you to want more then it&#039;s time and money well spent.  

The reward for Universe Today is knowing we&#039;ve been able to give our readers information they can use and make their own judgements from!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning, David.  When Fraser first asked me to do product reviews several years ago, I was a little leery.  I refused because I don&#039;t like the idea of pitting one product against another &#8211; which reviews so often so.  When he asked again, I decided I go ahead and give it a try this time, but in my own style.  (and many thanks to fraser for permitting me that style.)  I take my cues from what UT readers seem to want &#8211; from very, very inexpensive telescopes and a way of learning the night sky on their own &#8211; to equipment few of us can easily afford, but deserves its place in the sun, too.  (and may heaven help me when i get ahold of products from a certain company that consistently have design flaws lest i be accused of being preferential!)</p>
<p>This particular book might not be the best for every single person out there &#8211; just like the C65 isn&#039;t the world&#039;s best small spotter scope&#8230;  But if a few dollars here and there teaches you how to begin and inspires you to want more then it&#039;s time and money well spent.  </p>
<p>The reward for Universe Today is knowing we&#039;ve been able to give our readers information they can use and make their own judgements from!</p>
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		<title>By: David R.</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/25/celestron-sky-maps-and-star-finder-start-out-right/comment-page-1/#comment-30694</link>
		<dc:creator>David R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa!  Tammy, you outdid yourself again.  I asked a tiny question re: c65 mini and got an amazing answer.  I feel as though I should be paying for this information.  Awesome and many many thanks.  I was looking for something portable enough to slug around outside.  Very, very cool and thanks again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!  Tammy, you outdid yourself again.  I asked a tiny question re: c65 mini and got an amazing answer.  I feel as though I should be paying for this information.  Awesome and many many thanks.  I was looking for something portable enough to slug around outside.  Very, very cool and thanks again&#8230;</p>
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