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	<title>Comments on: Ride a Maglev Rocket to Space Hotel in 2012</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Mathiesen</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-48190</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Mathiesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MagLev for Freeways could be practical decades before MagLev for Space Travel.  http://www.realdemocracyinamerica.com/blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MagLev for Freeways could be practical decades before MagLev for Space Travel.  <a href="http://www.realdemocracyinamerica.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.realdemocracyinamerica.com/blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sailor Barsoom</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-33828</link>
		<dc:creator>Sailor Barsoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASA and other national space agencies aren&#039;t doing this because they aren&#039;t commercial enterprises.  For instance, NASA is forbidden to do anything like this.

Fireball XL5 used a rocket sled, not maglev.

Yeah, 2012 seems a wee bit ambitious.  I&#039;d love for it to turn out to be true, of course, but I won&#039;t be holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA and other national space agencies aren&#039;t doing this because they aren&#039;t commercial enterprises.  For instance, NASA is forbidden to do anything like this.</p>
<p>Fireball XL5 used a rocket sled, not maglev.</p>
<p>Yeah, 2012 seems a wee bit ambitious.  I&#039;d love for it to turn out to be true, of course, but I won&#039;t be holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: cjameshuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjameshuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some other math...orbital velocity for low earth orbit is in the area of 7 km/s. 1000 km/h is only 278 m/s. A good bit less than the speed of sound, and deep in the atmosphere where much of it will be lost to drag. And ignoring that, the maglev launcher only gives 4% at best of the required velocity to reach orbit. So the vehicle has to be big enough to practically get to orbit on its own, yet small enough for the launcher to handle, and with a razor-thin margin for the extra 278 m/s to be meaningful.

It&#039;s at the right part of the trip...it&#039;s early on, when fuel tanks are full, that the spacecraft takes the most fuel to accelerate. But fuel&#039;s not actually the biggest cost in a launch, it&#039;s the vehicle itself, the launch site, all the engineers and technicians going over the equipment, and all the paperwork. I would be very surprised if a subsonic maglev launch proved worthwhile. And they go from there to hit pretty much every other unproven launch concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other math&#8230;orbital velocity for low earth orbit is in the area of 7 km/s. 1000 km/h is only 278 m/s. A good bit less than the speed of sound, and deep in the atmosphere where much of it will be lost to drag. And ignoring that, the maglev launcher only gives 4% at best of the required velocity to reach orbit. So the vehicle has to be big enough to practically get to orbit on its own, yet small enough for the launcher to handle, and with a razor-thin margin for the extra 278 m/s to be meaningful.</p>
<p>It&#039;s at the right part of the trip&#8230;it&#039;s early on, when fuel tanks are full, that the spacecraft takes the most fuel to accelerate. But fuel&#039;s not actually the biggest cost in a launch, it&#039;s the vehicle itself, the launch site, all the engineers and technicians going over the equipment, and all the paperwork. I would be very surprised if a subsonic maglev launch proved worthwhile. And they go from there to hit pretty much every other unproven launch concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenard Lindstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-30498</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenard Lindstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say it&#039;s a scam.

Let&#039;s look at some numbers. According to the Galactic Suite press release (Barcelona, August 2008) the rocket reaches 1000 km/h in less than 20 seconds. That is at least a modest 1.4 g&#039;s over a distance of a 2.8 km. The press release claims the Maglev track will be 3 miles ( 4.8 km) long. But this may be a typo, or a large margin for error. So far so good.

The problem is the motion starts out horizontal, then goes vertical. It changes direction. The Galactic Suite Spaceport illustration shows a very tight curve. With fighter jets it&#039;s the turns, not the engine thrust, that create those high g forces.

So let&#039;s assume a 0.1 km radius curve taking going from horizontal to vertical. Also assume the rocket has reached 80 percent of liftoff speed, 800 km/h, at the bottom of the curve. Finally, for simplification, let&#039;s assume a constant speed within the turn. That would make for an acceleration in the curve of 50 g&#039;s for 0.7 seconds. I&#039;m no physiologist, but I&#039;m sure this would kill. For a 0.5 km radius it&#039;s 10 g&#039;s for 3.5 seconds. This can cause a blackout. For 1 km it&#039;s 5 g&#039;s for 7 seconds. In comparison, a Soyuz capsule reaches 4.5 g&#039;s in a normal decent, ignoring the momentary impact forces of touchdown (1).

If my understanding of Galactic Suite&#039;s proposed space launch system is wrong or my assumed numbers are off that is because of a lack of hard information. The three page press release only devotes two paragraphs to the launch system. And the Galactic Suite web site crashed my browser. I see only flashy graphics and a basic high school understanding of physics. This is not enough for a space tourism business.

(1) From Dr. Charles Simonyi&#039;s blog entry on centrifuge training at Star City, at his website charlesinspace.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say it&#039;s a scam.</p>
<p>Let&#039;s look at some numbers. According to the Galactic Suite press release (Barcelona, August 2008) the rocket reaches 1000 km/h in less than 20 seconds. That is at least a modest 1.4 g&#039;s over a distance of a 2.8 km. The press release claims the Maglev track will be 3 miles ( 4.8 km) long. But this may be a typo, or a large margin for error. So far so good.</p>
<p>The problem is the motion starts out horizontal, then goes vertical. It changes direction. The Galactic Suite Spaceport illustration shows a very tight curve. With fighter jets it&#039;s the turns, not the engine thrust, that create those high g forces.</p>
<p>So let&#039;s assume a 0.1 km radius curve taking going from horizontal to vertical. Also assume the rocket has reached 80 percent of liftoff speed, 800 km/h, at the bottom of the curve. Finally, for simplification, let&#039;s assume a constant speed within the turn. That would make for an acceleration in the curve of 50 g&#039;s for 0.7 seconds. I&#039;m no physiologist, but I&#039;m sure this would kill. For a 0.5 km radius it&#039;s 10 g&#039;s for 3.5 seconds. This can cause a blackout. For 1 km it&#039;s 5 g&#039;s for 7 seconds. In comparison, a Soyuz capsule reaches 4.5 g&#039;s in a normal decent, ignoring the momentary impact forces of touchdown (1).</p>
<p>If my understanding of Galactic Suite&#039;s proposed space launch system is wrong or my assumed numbers are off that is because of a lack of hard information. The three page press release only devotes two paragraphs to the launch system. And the Galactic Suite web site crashed my browser. I see only flashy graphics and a basic high school understanding of physics. This is not enough for a space tourism business.</p>
<p>(1) From Dr. Charles Simonyi&#039;s blog entry on centrifuge training at Star City, at his website charlesinspace.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-30485</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll side with sps ^......</description>
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		<title>By: Ayti</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-30378</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and &quot;inherently safe&quot; that was clever too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and &#034;inherently safe&#034; that was clever too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayti</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-30377</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maglev rocket launch vehicle?
Orbiting Hotel?
2012?

Somebody&#039;s holding back a lot of information.

If they do it, I&#039;ll be impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maglev rocket launch vehicle?<br />
Orbiting Hotel?<br />
2012?</p>
<p>Somebody&#039;s holding back a lot of information.</p>
<p>If they do it, I&#039;ll be impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read some sci fi like this, total bollocks was the tale of levitation, but told as true folk beleived it till another scientist eventually made one. Maybe this is like that?

Space ship one has the idea, launch from up high thus no need for a stage one, as it is a reusuable airplane.

Maybe the new spaceport is to be seen on Google Earth?

I dont like the look of the jump at the end, it seems very sharp, surly should be some sort of curve ski jump sort of thing?

Personally I would rather go on Space Ship 2.(Virgin)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read some sci fi like this, total bollocks was the tale of levitation, but told as true folk beleived it till another scientist eventually made one. Maybe this is like that?</p>
<p>Space ship one has the idea, launch from up high thus no need for a stage one, as it is a reusuable airplane.</p>
<p>Maybe the new spaceport is to be seen on Google Earth?</p>
<p>I dont like the look of the jump at the end, it seems very sharp, surly should be some sort of curve ski jump sort of thing?</p>
<p>Personally I would rather go on Space Ship 2.(Virgin)</p>
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		<title>By: dollhopf</title>
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		<dc:creator>dollhopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-) David R., of course people can spend the same money only once. Either on a hundred trips one your cruise liners or once in one of the Galactic Suite hotels. Space sickness and sea sickness are supposed to be 	equipollent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  David R., of course people can spend the same money only once. Either on a hundred trips one your cruise liners or once in one of the Galactic Suite hotels. Space sickness and sea sickness are supposed to be 	equipollent.</p>
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		<title>By: David R.</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-30347</link>
		<dc:creator>David R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stay at the hotel will &quot;offer a mixed programme of reflection and exercise to seize the unique physical conditions encountered in space,&quot; said Claramunt.

Greetings and thank you for purchasing your room through Galactic Suite.  Your itinerary begins with the Galactic Isolation Tank in zero gravity, where you will enjoy an extended period of reflection over the five trillion dollars you just spent on your hotel room.   We will include some self-help recordings by Dr. Phil to encourage you toward thinking clearly about the fact that you&#039;re in debt up to your eyeballs.   After the reality of your situation has sunk in (that is to say, after you are sufficiently convinced that you, your children and your grandchildren will be our indentured servants), we will treat you to a five-minute stationary bike ride in zero gravity.  The bike is an artifact that was found in a NASA  closet that read,&quot;spare Skylab equipment.&quot;  You will then be escorted to your room.  And we must remind you that your potential heightened sense of melancholy, fear and loathing that you may achieve after paying our hotel bill is not grounds for rude, disorderly or controversial behavior.  If you are found to be in violation of these rules, you will be promptly jettisoned into the vacuum of space without advance notice.  Thank you for choosing Galactic Suite.  A complimentarly anit-depressant capsule has been placed on your pillow for your cruising pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stay at the hotel will &#034;offer a mixed programme of reflection and exercise to seize the unique physical conditions encountered in space,&#034; said Claramunt.</p>
<p>Greetings and thank you for purchasing your room through Galactic Suite.  Your itinerary begins with the Galactic Isolation Tank in zero gravity, where you will enjoy an extended period of reflection over the five trillion dollars you just spent on your hotel room.   We will include some self-help recordings by Dr. Phil to encourage you toward thinking clearly about the fact that you&#039;re in debt up to your eyeballs.   After the reality of your situation has sunk in (that is to say, after you are sufficiently convinced that you, your children and your grandchildren will be our indentured servants), we will treat you to a five-minute stationary bike ride in zero gravity.  The bike is an artifact that was found in a NASA  closet that read,&#034;spare Skylab equipment.&#034;  You will then be escorted to your room.  And we must remind you that your potential heightened sense of melancholy, fear and loathing that you may achieve after paying our hotel bill is not grounds for rude, disorderly or controversial behavior.  If you are found to be in violation of these rules, you will be promptly jettisoned into the vacuum of space without advance notice.  Thank you for choosing Galactic Suite.  A complimentarly anit-depressant capsule has been placed on your pillow for your cruising pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: dollhopf</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-2/#comment-30346</link>
		<dc:creator>dollhopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The company hopes to make space tourism available to the general public&quot;

Well, the general public can tremendously benefit from this company. A lot of new jobs will emerge from this enterprise. And you know that the more people are employed in the spaceflight related market segment, the less can politics neglect it. 

The point is not that I don&#039;t have the money to spend my niece a $3E6-trip, but that she can make a living in an exciting expanding industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;The company hopes to make space tourism available to the general public&#034;</p>
<p>Well, the general public can tremendously benefit from this company. A lot of new jobs will emerge from this enterprise. And you know that the more people are employed in the spaceflight related market segment, the less can politics neglect it. </p>
<p>The point is not that I don&#039;t have the money to spend my niece a $3E6-trip, but that she can make a living in an exciting expanding industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Aodhhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aodhhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is being done by the Bigfoot finders in Georgia.</description>
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		<title>By: Sili</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-30334</link>
		<dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2012? - HAH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2012? &#8211; HAH!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-30327</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they plan on launching in 2012 with passengers, then I assume they will need at least 3 or more dummy payload shots which will have to occur at least a year earlier to get any approvals they need. All this boils down to the fact that some where right now there is an actual craft ready to go to carry up at least the cargo portion of what they will need.

Yeah right. 

Who was on the technical team for this design? Air breathing engines, scram jets and a high energy kick stage for orbital insertion along with the approach and docking technology. Only a few nations have even developed this level of technology and some of it is still very preliminary.

If this is true, it will rock the world and all of the nations space bodies wil look like  cash wasting morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they plan on launching in 2012 with passengers, then I assume they will need at least 3 or more dummy payload shots which will have to occur at least a year earlier to get any approvals they need. All this boils down to the fact that some where right now there is an actual craft ready to go to carry up at least the cargo portion of what they will need.</p>
<p>Yeah right. </p>
<p>Who was on the technical team for this design? Air breathing engines, scram jets and a high energy kick stage for orbital insertion along with the approach and docking technology. Only a few nations have even developed this level of technology and some of it is still very preliminary.</p>
<p>If this is true, it will rock the world and all of the nations space bodies wil look like  cash wasting morons.</p>
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		<title>By: NoAstronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoAstronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like an excellent way to separate gullible investors from the their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like an excellent way to separate gullible investors from the their money.</p>
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		<title>By: Feenixx</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-30324</link>
		<dc:creator>Feenixx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just like Fireball XL5&quot;

gosh, Chris, WELL spotted.
let us remain skeptical....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Just like Fireball XL5&#034;</p>
<p>gosh, Chris, WELL spotted.<br />
let us remain skeptical&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Lam</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-30323</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only one question.  What are these Galactic Suite people and their clientele smoking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only one question.  What are these Galactic Suite people and their clientele smoking?</p>
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		<title>By: zeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they make it a time-share!</description>
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		<title>By: Finn</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/08/21/ride-a-maglev-rocket-to-space-hotel-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-30313</link>
		<dc:creator>Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only it were measly Dollars, it is unfortunally 3mio EURO.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Fireball XL5!! Cool!</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The company hopes to make space tourism available to the general public&quot;

Let me paraphrase: &quot;The company hopes to make space tourism available to the rich, who have 3 million dollar to spend on vacation.&quot;

I agree that the time scale sounds somewhat unrealistic. Anyway, getting normal people up to space is a good idea and with time it will become cheaper and more affordable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;The company hopes to make space tourism available to the general public&#034;</p>
<p>Let me paraphrase: &#034;The company hopes to make space tourism available to the rich, who have 3 million dollar to spend on vacation.&#034;</p>
<p>I agree that the time scale sounds somewhat unrealistic. Anyway, getting normal people up to space is a good idea and with time it will become cheaper and more affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: Feenixx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feenixx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grinspoon: perhaps not ALL BS, but definitely a generous layer of it, and a lot of secrecy.

Their budgeting, imo, is way off. It&#039;s been done many times before: Find investors, take their money, then tell them you need twice or three times as much... and they&#039;ll pay, or else, they&#039;ll have to say &quot;goodbye&quot; to the multi-millions they have already invested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grinspoon: perhaps not ALL BS, but definitely a generous layer of it, and a lot of secrecy.</p>
<p>Their budgeting, imo, is way off. It&#039;s been done many times before: Find investors, take their money, then tell them you need twice or three times as much&#8230; and they&#039;ll pay, or else, they&#039;ll have to say &#034;goodbye&#034; to the multi-millions they have already invested.</p>
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		<title>By: Grinspoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grinspoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember when these guys first appeared, i looked at their website and everything i could find online. Something just didn&#039;t ad up. I came to the conclusion it was some sort of fakery or a scam. Now i have no real basis for that, but it all just seemed to be full of BS. As in, everything they were claiming was crap, and there was a lot of important info i couldn&#039;t find. I can&#039;t really remember the specifics, but it was the thought i had after reading up about it.
I have no read into the details of this current announcement, I&#039;m curious as to whether my thoughts will be changed or remain the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when these guys first appeared, i looked at their website and everything i could find online. Something just didn&#039;t ad up. I came to the conclusion it was some sort of fakery or a scam. Now i have no real basis for that, but it all just seemed to be full of BS. As in, everything they were claiming was crap, and there was a lot of important info i couldn&#039;t find. I can&#039;t really remember the specifics, but it was the thought i had after reading up about it.<br />
I have no read into the details of this current announcement, I&#039;m curious as to whether my thoughts will be changed or remain the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Feenixx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feenixx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Less than 20 seconds&quot;, the press release actually says, I don&#039;t see where the 10 seconds figure came from.

Maxwell: The Maglev rail, according to the brochure, does NOT accelerate the craft to supersonic speed. That&#039;ll be the first rocket stage.

The &quot;hotel&quot; is a basic, simplified modular space station.

It looks very feasible to me - the time scale may be too ambitious. We&#039;ll see. If they manage to do it, to g et even just the launch vehicle, Maglev rail and rockets ready, they might have a customer straight away: NASA.....

That they won&#039;t reveal the name and location of the island bothers me a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Less than 20 seconds&#034;, the press release actually says, I don&#039;t see where the 10 seconds figure came from.</p>
<p>Maxwell: The Maglev rail, according to the brochure, does NOT accelerate the craft to supersonic speed. That&#039;ll be the first rocket stage.</p>
<p>The &#034;hotel&#034; is a basic, simplified modular space station.</p>
<p>It looks very feasible to me &#8211; the time scale may be too ambitious. We&#039;ll see. If they manage to do it, to g et even just the launch vehicle, Maglev rail and rockets ready, they might have a customer straight away: NASA&#8230;..</p>
<p>That they won&#039;t reveal the name and location of the island bothers me a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: alandee</title>
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		<dc:creator>alandee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is any doubting that the time line is ambitious, but the vision is superb, and there is nothing like bucket loads of money to make something happen. ( which may be why JAXA, NASA, ESA, et al aren&#039;t doing it ? )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think there is any doubting that the time line is ambitious, but the vision is superb, and there is nothing like bucket loads of money to make something happen. ( which may be why JAXA, NASA, ESA, et al aren&#039;t doing it ? )</p>
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