and is it going to make a black hole that is going to swallow us all.. i very much doubt it, what could happen is that physics as we know it can be turned on its head, which too many of us will actually be a happy happening

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080910-collider-success.html

read the article and shut the hell up.

If anything goes wrong then it will…i honestly cant believe that some say this is a waste of money. CERN may discover a new type of fuel which will have no polution, cures my aids/HIV or cancer may be found. ISNT that worth the money and the risk. OK people are starving but how come we donate hell of a lof of money to those countries and they are still in their damn state believe me its not the amount its how their goverment spend s that given money!!!!

if it wasnt for the mass media (TV etc) no one would actually be worried or ould have even heard of the LHC.

well i cant wait for the out come…only the future knows whats coming our way

if the LHC does create a blackhole
theres no God

if it doesnt well lets say that God is on our side

End of story

InsideThe world's largest atom smasher's first experiment went off today without a hitch, paving the way toward the recreation of post-big bang conditions.

e the control room, physicists and engineers cautiously shot the beam down part of the tunnel, stopping it before it went all the way around.

"Oh, we made it through!" one person cried as the beam made it through a further section of the tunnel.

One hour after starting up, on the first attempt to send the beam circling all the way around the tunnel, it completed the trip successfully—bringing raucous applause.

"First of all, I didn't believe it," said Verena Kain, a European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) engineer.

"I had to see it a second time, and I thought, Oh, wow, it actually worked!"

"Things can go wrong at any time, but luckily this morning everything went smoothly," said Lyn Evans of CERN, who oversaw the building of the accelerator.

Birth of the Universe

The collider "was first proposed more than 20 years ago," said Django Manglunki, an accelerator physicist at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), on Tuesday. "We've been preparing that beam for more than ten years."

"It's difficult to realize that the machine, at last, is starting now," he added. (See photos of the collider.)

By creating hundreds of thousands of head-on collisions each second, physicists hope to understand the fiery conditions of the universe a trillionth of a second after the big bang.

Another enigma that could be at least partially explained is dark matter, the invisible material thought to be the most common in the universe.

Very Big Staircase

In several months CERN's physicists plan to use two beams, each with 2,808 bunches of protons, each of which contains a hundred billion protons—positively charged particles found in the nuclei of atoms.

Out of each collision, a spray of energy and other assorted particles will form. Scientists will study which particles show up, how often, and exactly how they fly out of the collisions. (Learn more about atom smashers.)

But on Wednesday, CERN scientists will first try to thread a single bunch of two billion protons through the Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

"We will have a very low-intensity beam, so [in case of a problem] we can lose the beam without damaging the machine," Manglunki said.

Once the team gets the beam circulating all the way around the tunnel—which may happen in a couple of hours—the scientists will send in several bunches at a time.

Getting the first beam circulating, Manglunki said, is "one step in a very big staircase"—the long process of conceiving, designing, building, and finally running the experiment.

(See: "Broken Magnet Highlights Largest Collider's Engineering Challenges" [April 13, 2007].)

Although the physicists have done various tests on the machine already, "ultimately it's the beam that can tell you if everything is working," he added.

Later, they will attempt to get another beam of protons circulating through the tunnel in the opposite direction—a prelude to colliding the two beams.

Dark Matter Particle

In addition to spotting the Higgs boson, another early reward could be evidence of supersymmetry. The supersymmetry theory says that all the particles known today have much more massive—and as yet undetected—partners.

"There are strong reasons to believe that these new particles include the particle that makes up the cosmic dark matter that accounts for 80 percent of the matter in universe," said Michael Peskin, a particle physicist at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center in Menlo Park, California.

(Related: "Dark Matter Proof Found, Scientists Say" [August 22, 2006].)

The collisions could also create a zoo of new particles, experts say.

"If any of these theories are right, the LHC should be turning up the evidence for these particles by next summer," Peskin said.

But there could also be some big surprises.

"It might turn out to be like the 1950s, when we were discovering many new particles and had no clue about how they fit into a coherent picture," Peskin said.

"I hope it will turn out like that," he added. "This is what makes science fun."

No Cause for Alarm

Some people are worried that the experiments could also create unwelcome discoveries, such as particles and other exotic phenomena that could swallow up Earth or destroy the universe as we know it.

For instance, one possibility is that the collisions will pack matter together so tightly that it may collapse to form miniature black holes.

But reviews by both CERN physicists and independent researchers argue that, even if such black holes do form, there's no reason for alarm (watch video).

"Collisions just like those the [atom-smasher] will make have been produced by cosmic rays bombarding the Earth throughout its existence," said a statement from the American Physical Society.

The most energetic cosmic rays are particles that pack much more energy than those in the Large Hadron Collider—so much so that physicists still aren't sure how the most powerful cosmic rays get created. (See: "Black Holes Belch Universe's Most Energetic Particles" [November 8, 2007].)

Steve Giddings, a physicist at the University of California, Santa Barbara, is actually hoping miniature black holes do show up, along with other evidence supporting string theory—an unproven theory that describes subatomic particles as though they are tiny vibrating strings.

"It would be extremely exciting to see string properties directly. And that is possible if there are extra dimensions of space that are configured just the right way," Giddings said.

"[Seeing] all of this would be the ultimate jackpot scenario."

you can stop worrying now the collide was a success dont believe me? go here:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/09/080910-collider-success.html

OH DEAR GOD IT HAS BEGUN
A MICROSCOPIC BLACK HOLE HAS BEEN DETECTED.

IT IS GROWING

A BLACK HOLE HAS BEEN FOUND.

OH DEAR GOD A BLACK HOLE HAS BEEN FOUND AND IT IS GROWING.

IT IS GROWING SLOWLY BUT IT IS NOT GOING AWAY.

GOD HELP US ALL

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My fear is that it'd take weeks, months, YEARS for the black hole to consume us after it's detected.

What would it be like on earth, in the knowledge that we're all doomed in, say, 25 days?
I suspect there'd be absolute chaos
Lawlessness. Killings, rapings, suicides, arson, starvation. Russia would probably launch a nuclear missile at the CERN laboratory for no apparent reason, triggering full-blown global nuclear war.

Bodies would litter the streets. — What's the point of burrying/cremating dead people if we're all going to be sucked into a black hole in 25 days?
Let the black hole do the tidying.

and to those absolute idiots who think it cool to do this stuff and waste 8 bilion dollars on stuff that doesnt meen jack when it could have been used to help milions of people dying in africa i meen come on wat is ur point. so what if your theories are proven if you want to get rid of spare time just go play world of war craft its not life threatening if this work and/or if it doesnt it is still the biggest waste of money known to mani hope somethogn bad happens and those idiots at cern say are ripped into dozens of little peices by these "black holes"

And to some dumb ass who says that all the doomsayers are religious well why dont you go to hell. I could care less who are the doomsayers.

In my opinion i tink what happens happens bu ti doubt the end of the world will be like this if you want to know about the end of the world read the new testament. A good thing to do tonight is to pray to god fall asleep and pray that you wake up tomorrow

your all pua manheads !!!!!!!!!

(sorry i was wrong about the time guys, I heard 10.15am but then 8.30am late last night)