Comments on: Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun? (Part 2) http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:58:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ARAGAMI http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-49585 ARAGAMI Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:46:43 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-49585 I find it most bozare that this matter is being discussed as fact, surely the low mass of saturn is the glaring truth, that fusion cannpt be sustained. It may be inistialized(doubtfull), however with the serious lack of mass that both saturn and jupiter posses, it cannot possibly continued by natural processes in these particular environments. What we need to endevour towards is to reduce the size of one of these gas giants, effectively increasing its relative mass. We then follow up by increasing the mass by matter introduction. this could be attained with a concerted effort in several thousand years. Then we induce a planetary implossion to induce black hole status for gravity minning purposes. Long after the death of our univers the black hole will remain, our only true hope is Gravity mining. I find it most bozare that this matter is being discussed as fact, surely the low mass of saturn is the glaring truth, that fusion cannpt be sustained. It may be inistialized(doubtfull), however with the serious lack of mass that both saturn and jupiter posses, it cannot possibly continued by natural processes in these particular environments. What we need to endevour towards is to reduce the size of one of these gas giants, effectively increasing its relative mass. We then follow up by increasing the mass by matter introduction. this could be attained with a concerted effort in several thousand years. Then we induce a planetary implossion to induce black hole status for gravity minning purposes. Long after the death of our univers the black hole will remain, our only true hope is Gravity mining.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-45235 Anonymous Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:44:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-45235 Foolish Arrogant ignorant freaks..there is no way to beat Gods greatness by purposely innovating an experiment that would start "a second sun"...HAHAH!!! Foolish Arrogant ignorant freaks..there is no way to beat Gods greatness by purposely innovating an experiment that would start "a second sun"…HAHAH!!!

]]> By: Jack C http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-45164 Jack C Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:53:55 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-45164 If ignition is possible, the goal is not a star, but a black hole. In the paper titled "Scattering and Absoption of Gravitational Plane Waves By Rotating Black Holes" by Sam R. Dolan, the idea that a small rotating black hole would counter the waves of the Gravitational Plane and create a "glory". The hope, I assume, would be to create a smooth entry point of Earth on 12-21-2012. Saturn crosses plane 10-06-2011. Look for ignition 10-03-2011. Would take 3 days to collapse to a black hole... Thoughts? If ignition is possible, the goal is not a star, but a black hole. In the paper titled "Scattering and Absoption of Gravitational Plane Waves By Rotating Black Holes" by Sam R. Dolan, the idea that a small rotating black hole would counter the waves of the Gravitational Plane and create a "glory". The hope, I assume, would be to create a smooth entry point of Earth on 12-21-2012. Saturn crosses plane 10-06-2011. Look for ignition 10-03-2011. Would take 3 days to collapse to a black hole… Thoughts?

]]> By: Alexei Turchin http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-42964 Alexei Turchin Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:53:37 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-42964 You forgot about deiterium, so your article is at least incomplete. See this scientific article: “Necessary conditions for the initiation and propagation of nuclear detonation waves in plane atmospheras”. Tomas Weaver and A. Wood, Physical review 20 – 1 Jule 1979, http://www.lhcdefense.org/pdf/LHC%20-%20Sancho%20v.%20Doe%20-%20Atmosphere%20Ignition%20-%202%20-%20Wood_AtmIgnition-1.pdf This article rejected the possibility of extending the thermonuclear detonation in the Earth's atmosphere and in Earth's oceans because of balance of the loss of radiation (one that does not exclude the possibility of reactions, which take little space: say, small deposit of heavy ice on the ocean floor, comparing with the amount of earthly matter - but it's enough to disastrous consequences and human extinction.) There it is said: “We, therefore, conclude that thermonuclear-detonation waves cannot propagate in the ter¬restrial ocean by any mechanism by an astronom¬ically large margin. It is worth noting, in conclusion, that the susceptability to thermonuclear detonation of a large body of hydrogenous material is an ex¬ceedingly sensitive function of its isotopic com¬position, and, specifically, to the deuterium atom fraction, as is implicit in the discussion just preceding. If, for instance, the terrestrial oceans contained deuterium at any atom fraction greater than 1:300 (instead of the actual value of 1: 6000), the ocean could propagate an equilibrium thermonuclear-detonation wave at a temperature £2 keV (although a fantastic 1030 ergs—2 x 107 MT, or the total amount of solar energy incident on the Earth for a two-week period—would be required to initiate such a detonation at a deuter¬ium concentration of 1: 300). Now a non-neg-ligible fraction of the matter in our own galaxy exists at temperatures much less than 300 °K, i.e., the gas-giant planets of our stellar system, nebulas, etc. Furthermore, it is well known that thermodynamically-governed isotopic fractionation ever more strongly favors higher relative concentration of deuterium as the temperature decreases, e.g., the D:H concentration ratio in the ~102 ? Great Nebula in Orion is about 1:200.45 Finally, orbital velocities of matter about the galactic center of mass are of the order of 3 x 107 cm /sec at our distance from the galactic core. It is thus quite conceivable that hydrogenous matter (e.go, CH4, NH3, H2O, or just H2) rela¬tively rich in deuterium (1 at. %) could accumu¬late at its normal, zero-pressure density in substantial thicknesses or planetary surfaces, and such layering might even be a fairly common feature of the colder, gas-giant planets. If thereby highly enriched in deuterium (£10 at. %), thermo¬nuclear detonation of such layers could be initiated artificially with attainable nuclear ex¬plosives. Even with deuterium atom fractions approaching 0.3 at. % (less than that observed over multiparsec scales in Orion), however, such layers might be initiated into propagating thermo¬nuclear detonation by the impact of large (diam 102 m), ultra-high velocity (^?? 107 cm/sec) meteors or comets originating from nearer the galactic center. Such events, though exceedingly rare, would be spectacularly visible on distance scales of many parsecs.” See more in Giant planets ignition http://www.scribd.com/doc/8299748/Giant-planets-ignition You forgot about deiterium, so your article is at least incomplete.

See this scientific article:

“Necessary conditions for the initiation and propagation of nuclear detonation waves in plane atmospheras”.
Tomas Weaver and A. Wood, Physical review 20 – 1 Jule 1979,
http://www.lhcdefense.org/pdf/LHC%20-%20Sancho%20v.%20Doe%20-%20Atmosphere%20Ignition%20-%202%20-%20Wood_AtmIgnition-1.pdf

This article rejected the possibility of extending the thermonuclear detonation in the Earth's atmosphere and in Earth's oceans because of balance of the loss of radiation (one that does not exclude the possibility of reactions, which take little space: say, small deposit of heavy ice on the ocean floor, comparing with the amount of earthly matter – but it's enough to disastrous consequences and human extinction.)

There it is said: “We, therefore, conclude that thermonuclear-detonation waves cannot propagate in the ter¬restrial ocean by any mechanism by an astronom¬ically large margin.

It is worth noting, in conclusion, that the susceptability to thermonuclear detonation of a large body of hydrogenous material is an ex¬ceedingly sensitive function of its isotopic com¬position, and, specifically, to the deuterium atom fraction, as is implicit in the discussion just preceding. If, for instance, the terrestrial oceans contained deuterium at any atom fraction greater than 1:300 (instead of the actual value of 1: 6000), the ocean could propagate an equilibrium thermonuclear-detonation wave at a temperature £2 keV (although a fantastic 1030 ergs—2 x 107 MT, or the total amount of solar energy incident on the Earth for a two-week period—would be required to initiate such a detonation at a deuter¬ium concentration of 1: 300). Now a non-neg-ligible fraction of the matter in our own galaxy exists at temperatures much less than 300 °K, i.e., the gas-giant planets of our stellar system, nebulas, etc. Furthermore, it is well known that thermodynamically-governed isotopic fractionation ever more strongly favors higher relative concentration of deuterium as the temperature decreases, e.g., the D:H concentration ratio in the ~102 ? Great Nebula in Orion is about 1:200.45 Finally, orbital velocities of matter about the galactic center of mass are of the order of 3 x 107 cm /sec at our distance from the galactic core.

It is thus quite conceivable that hydrogenous matter (e.go, CH4, NH3, H2O, or just H2) rela¬tively rich in deuterium (1 at. %) could accumu¬late at its normal, zero-pressure density in substantial thicknesses or planetary surfaces, and such layering might even be a fairly common feature of the colder, gas-giant planets. If thereby highly enriched in deuterium (£10 at. %), thermo¬nuclear detonation of such layers could be initiated artificially with attainable nuclear ex¬plosives. Even with deuterium atom fractions approaching 0.3 at. % (less than that observed over multiparsec scales in Orion), however, such layers might be initiated into propagating thermo¬nuclear detonation by the impact of large (diam 102 m), ultra-high velocity (^?? 107 cm/sec) meteors or comets originating from nearer the galactic center. Such events, though exceedingly rare, would be spectacularly visible on distance scales of many parsecs.”

See more in
Giant planets ignition
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8299748/Giant-planets-ignition

]]> By: Sly http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-42952 Sly Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:09:41 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-42952 You have to admit, the idea of turning one of our gas giants into a star is an interesting idea, especially after 2010 came out. When you think about it (as pointed out here and in part 1), it's not logically possible, but the idea is attractive to those who like to find conspiracies in things. and seeing two stars in the sky, the obvious harmful effects aside, would be pretty awesome... You have to admit, the idea of turning one of our gas giants into a star is an interesting idea, especially after 2010 came out. When you think about it (as pointed out here and in part 1), it's not logically possible, but the idea is attractive to those who like to find conspiracies in things.

and seeing two stars in the sky, the obvious harmful effects aside, would be pretty awesome…

]]> By: J http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-41795 J Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:30:23 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-41795 In the main article i read it says that the whole point of this is to terraform one of saturns moons "titan" into a sustainable habitable planet much like earth by 2033.....its one of the stupidest things iv ever seen... i really dont get where these conspiracy theorists come up with this In the main article i read it says that the whole point of this is to terraform one of saturns moons "titan" into a sustainable habitable planet much like earth by 2033…..its one of the stupidest things iv ever seen… i really dont get where these conspiracy theorists come up with this

]]> By: Tobias Holbrook, Starcaptain http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-37887 Tobias Holbrook, Starcaptain Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:01:10 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-37887 If we could somehow kick start the collapse of Jupiter, would its gravity be enough to sustain a Fusion reaction? If we could somehow kick start the collapse of Jupiter, would its gravity be enough to sustain a Fusion reaction?

]]> By: Anti DieDie http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-3/#comment-37850 Anti DieDie Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:06:17 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-37850 Heehee. Smart people are funny. Now look away from these planets you call Jupiter and Saturn, foolish humans, and cover your eyes! Heehee. Smart people are funny. Now look away from these planets you call Jupiter and Saturn, foolish humans, and cover your eyes!

]]> By: CAS http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-31734 CAS Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:48:14 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-31734 Dr.Nothing seems to suggest that hydrogen is hard to ignite. His is the voice of ignorence and danger. I suggest that he should stay far away from any charging wet cell batterys least he learn how easy it is to ignite. Painted canvas ? (giggle) Perhaps the next generation of shuttle will use canvas instead of hydrogen as fuel! (chorttle!) Dr.Nothing seems to suggest that hydrogen is hard to ignite. His is the voice of ignorence
and danger. I suggest that he should stay far
away from any charging wet cell batterys least
he learn how easy it is to ignite. Painted
canvas ? (giggle) Perhaps the next generation of shuttle will use canvas instead
of hydrogen as fuel! (chorttle!)

]]> By: Commander Tobias Holbrook, Cerenean Terraforming Core http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-31447 Commander Tobias Holbrook, Cerenean Terraforming Core Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:05:08 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-31447 Maybe if there were planets that were 10 Jupiter Mass, highly enriched with Dueterium and Helium-3, out at the edge of the solar system, with Earth mass moons... Maybe if there were planets that were 10 Jupiter Mass, highly enriched with Dueterium and Helium-3, out at the edge of the solar system, with Earth mass moons…

]]> By: ASJIV http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-29026 ASJIV Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:46:30 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-29026 Hello Again Ian, Your analysis about Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune's gases being too small seems very accurate. However, there are astronomers who have confirmed that the mythical Planet X (Nibirus) is the same as the "factual" reddish-brown dwarf star Sirius C which is part of a three-star system called Sirius. Check out a book called "The Sirius Mystery." Apparently, this star system may be orbiting our galaxy soon and could very well be the final piece to ignite the plutonium gases from Jupiter & Saturn, and maybe Neptune into a 2nd SUN. If this proves wrong, great! But if true, at least this study won't leave us blindsided! PEACE!!! Hello Again Ian,

Your analysis about Jupiter, Saturn, and Neptune's gases being too small seems very accurate. However, there are astronomers who have confirmed that the mythical Planet X (Nibirus) is the same as the "factual" reddish-brown dwarf star Sirius C which is part of a three-star system called Sirius. Check out a book called "The Sirius Mystery." Apparently, this star system may be orbiting our galaxy soon and could very well be the final piece to ignite the plutonium gases from Jupiter & Saturn, and maybe Neptune into a 2nd SUN. If this proves wrong, great! But if true, at least this study won't leave us blindsided! PEACE!!!

]]> By: Ian O'Neill http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-28951 Ian O'Neill Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:22:29 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-28951 Hi ASJIV. In short: no. For a start, Planet X doesn't exist (certainly not in an astronomical sense anyway). Secondly, the gas giants are too small, fusion really cannot happen. In Arthur C.Clarke's 2010, I believe he gets around this problem by increasing the mass of Jupiter with those alien monoliths, even excellent science fiction novelists were highly aware that Jupiter simply does not have enough mass. Hope that helps a little. Ian Hi ASJIV. In short: no. For a start, Planet X doesn't exist (certainly not in an astronomical sense anyway). Secondly, the gas giants are too small, fusion really cannot happen.

In Arthur C.Clarke's 2010, I believe he gets around this problem by increasing the mass of Jupiter with those alien monoliths, even excellent science fiction novelists were highly aware that Jupiter simply does not have enough mass.

Hope that helps a little.

Ian

]]> By: ASJIV http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-28785 ASJIV Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:01:52 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-28785 Hello Ian, Great information. And I like your response to YOGIH about a brown dwarf star causing fusion. Now I'm curious. Planet X (a.k.a. Nibiru, Sirius C) is supposedly ta reddish brown star that will orbit our galaxy in late 2012. Does this star have enough energy to ignite gases from Jupiter, Saturn, and even Neptune into a 2nd SUN? Hello Ian,

Great information. And I like your response to YOGIH about a brown dwarf star causing fusion. Now I'm curious. Planet X (a.k.a. Nibiru, Sirius C) is supposedly ta reddish brown star that will orbit our galaxy in late 2012. Does this star have enough energy to ignite gases from Jupiter, Saturn, and even Neptune into a 2nd SUN?

]]> By: El Sofista - El Proyecto Lucifer (final) http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-28581 El Sofista - El Proyecto Lucifer (final) Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:56:49 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-28581 La historia: Es posible que el Proyecto Lucifer sea la mayor teoría conspirativa en la que la NASA pueda estar envuelta. Primero, en 2003, la agencia espacial —en colaboración con organizaciones secretas y poderosas— envió a la sonda Galileo, con una cantidad importante de plutonio, a lo profundo de la atmósfera de Júpiter. [...] Fuente: Ian O'Neill para Universe Today. La historia: Es posible que el Proyecto Lucifer sea la mayor teoría conspirativa en la que la NASA pueda estar envuelta. Primero, en 2003, la agencia espacial —en colaboración con organizaciones secretas y poderosas— envió a la sonda Galileo, con una cantidad importante de plutonio, a lo profundo de la atmósfera de Júpiter. [...] Fuente: Ian O'Neill para Universe Today.

]]> By: btw http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-28208 btw Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:05:10 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-28208 Willphoenix1, the plutonium is the power source for the probe. Willphoenix1, the plutonium is the power source for the probe.

]]> By: Adam http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-28153 Adam Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:05:14 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-28153 All this sounds like Velikovsky in reverse - he believed Earth once orbitted Saturn, but was blown out of orbit by a "nova explosion" that also caused the Great Flood... idiotic ideas and almost as incorrigible as the current Cassini nonsense. All this sounds like Velikovsky in reverse – he believed Earth once orbitted Saturn, but was blown out of orbit by a "nova explosion" that also caused the Great Flood… idiotic ideas and almost as incorrigible as the current Cassini nonsense.

]]> By: young http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27905 young Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:10:56 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27905 what if gallieo tested juiper for the bomb that would've come if it weren't for the buget cuts what if gallieo tested juiper for the bomb that would've come if it weren't for the buget cuts

]]> By: young http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27902 young Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:56:15 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27902 if boms can't what will? if boms can't what will?

]]> By: BHC http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27894 BHC Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:02:45 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27894 "What would they get out of it?" more working hours in a day, of course, if there's no more night. or wait, it's the farmers, conspiring to get more sunlight to create more crops. or it's an anti-vampire conspiracy... what better way to kill vampires than to rid ourselves of darkness. i'm suddenly reminded of Asimov's Nightfall. "What would they get out of it?"

more working hours in a day, of course, if there's no more night.

or wait, it's the farmers, conspiring to get more sunlight to create more crops.

or it's an anti-vampire conspiracy… what better way to kill vampires than to rid ourselves of darkness.

i'm suddenly reminded of Asimov's Nightfall.

]]> By: Ronald http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27888 Ronald Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:28:32 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27888 My only question to this is, for what conceivable purpose would NASA even want to turn either of these planetary bodies into another sun? What would they get out of it? No one does anything without some kind of reason. Even if it is a very poor reason there is a reason. My only question to this is, for what conceivable purpose would NASA even want to turn either of these planetary bodies into another sun? What would they get out of it? No one does anything without some kind of reason. Even if it is a very poor reason there is a reason.

]]> By: Drlove http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27882 Drlove Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:58:02 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27882 The cause of the hindenberg explosion was only due in part to H2. The skin of the ship was coated with an aluminum paint (simular to rocket fuel). Also why would we need another sun in our small solar system? The cause of the hindenberg explosion was only due in part to H2. The skin of the ship was coated with an aluminum paint (simular to rocket fuel). Also why would we need another sun in our small solar system?

]]> By: Paul Eaton-Jones http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27859 Paul Eaton-Jones Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:30:58 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27859 Why not drag these conspiracy idiots onto prime time television in front of a group of astronomers etc and force them to explain in scientific detail exactly how the tiny amounts of non-weapons grade plutonium will 'go nuclear'. If they can't then send them to Guantanamo Bay to replace the poor sods who are there. Anyway, why are we still seriously discussing crackpot ideas here? Poke fun at them but let's not get bogged down. [as I so obviously have been!!]. Paul. Why not drag these conspiracy idiots onto prime time television in front of a group of astronomers etc and force them to explain in scientific detail exactly how the tiny amounts of non-weapons grade plutonium will 'go nuclear'. If they can't then send them to Guantanamo Bay to replace the poor sods who are there. Anyway, why are we still seriously discussing crackpot ideas here? Poke fun at them but let's not get bogged down. [as I so obviously have been!!].
Paul.

]]> By: DrNothing http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27824 DrNothing Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:49:25 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27824 Kudos, Sili on the Hindenburg remark. It has been shown that it was the aluminum powder and the other bits in the coating they used to try and avert electrical charges per Saint Elmo. Ironically, the concoction was damned close to modern rocket fuel, so the Static fires actually ignited the Blimp's skin which burned until it got hot enough to ignite the Hydrogen onside. H2 is actually pretty safe, per it has a fairly high ignition temperature. If it weren't for this coating flubber, lighter than air travel could very well have continued to take off (pun intended) and we'd have had a world similar to that envisioned in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow... Kudos, Sili on the Hindenburg remark. It has been shown that it was the aluminum powder and the other bits in the coating they used to try and avert electrical charges per Saint Elmo. Ironically, the concoction was damned close to modern rocket fuel, so the Static fires actually ignited the Blimp's skin which burned until it got hot enough to ignite the Hydrogen onside. H2 is actually pretty safe, per it has a fairly high ignition temperature. If it weren't for this coating flubber, lighter than air travel could very well have continued to take off (pun intended) and we'd have had a world similar to that envisioned in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow…

]]> By: David R. http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27801 David R. Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:38:16 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27801 pantzov, sure, millions believe it...but the elite few on UT get it right all the time. whatever. i don't think that's what Ian's article implied, but if you read this into it, maybe you're hovering closer to the millions... pantzov,

sure, millions believe it…but the elite few on UT get it right all the time. whatever. i don't think that's what Ian's article implied, but if you read this into it, maybe you're hovering closer to the millions…

]]> By: pantzov http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/comment-page-2/#comment-27793 pantzov Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:31:03 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=16153#comment-27793 heh, this theory is just so stupid that you *know* millions will believe it. i sure hope that minimal UT readers are amoung them. heh, this theory is just so stupid that you *know* millions will believe it. i sure hope that minimal UT readers are amoung them.

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