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	<title>Comments on: Bad Idea: Blowing Up Asteroids with Nuclear Missiles</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-2/#comment-49361</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds crazy, but can Earth be moved at all? Far enough  that gravity would not attract an asteroid if it were to hit?  And building tunnels? I don&#039;t think that would work if an atroid did hit.  Wouldn&#039;t the asteroid cause tsunami if it did hit Earth, wether it hit sea or land and people would dround in tunnels.   Not too sure about any of this because I really don&#039;t know too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds crazy, but can Earth be moved at all? Far enough  that gravity would not attract an asteroid if it were to hit?  And building tunnels? I don&#039;t think that would work if an atroid did hit.  Wouldn&#039;t the asteroid cause tsunami if it did hit Earth, wether it hit sea or land and people would dround in tunnels.   Not too sure about any of this because I really don&#039;t know too much.</p>
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		<title>By: cannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim your wrong, there are hundreds of other ways to move an astroid especially with lots of time.  You can&#039;t just say &quot;newton&#039;s second law&quot;  and hope u make sense.  However i do agree with the use of nukes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim your wrong, there are hundreds of other ways to move an astroid especially with lots of time.  You can&#039;t just say &#034;newton&#039;s second law&#034;  and hope u make sense.  However i do agree with the use of nukes</p>
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		<title>By: R2K</title>
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		<dc:creator>R2K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess no one understands how one uses a nuclear bomb to deflect a threat:

You dont blow it up.  People who think you do blow it up got that information from others who are wrong, or from a film.

It is called mass ejection redirection.  You detonate close to the surface so that you blow off just enough material to move the impactor slightly.  The key here is you have enough warning time.

It would take a huge amount of power to destroy a serious impactor, or deflect it once close.  At that point, you might as well focus on digging tunnels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess no one understands how one uses a nuclear bomb to deflect a threat:</p>
<p>You dont blow it up.  People who think you do blow it up got that information from others who are wrong, or from a film.</p>
<p>It is called mass ejection redirection.  You detonate close to the surface so that you blow off just enough material to move the impactor slightly.  The key here is you have enough warning time.</p>
<p>It would take a huge amount of power to destroy a serious impactor, or deflect it once close.  At that point, you might as well focus on digging tunnels.</p>
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		<title>By: ZenDraken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZenDraken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to be a pretty straightforward engineering issue; just use the tools that are appropriate for the job.  If you have plenty of time, the non-nuclear options seem appropriate.  

If time is short, use nukes.  If the asteroid breaks up into chunks, use more nukes.  Eventually you&#039;ll end up with a really epic meteor shower and a little radioactivity.  Better than a giant smoking hole in the ground.

One question:  If we see a comet coming at us from the great void, as in Lucifer&#039;s Hammer, will we have time to deflect it with nukes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be a pretty straightforward engineering issue; just use the tools that are appropriate for the job.  If you have plenty of time, the non-nuclear options seem appropriate.  </p>
<p>If time is short, use nukes.  If the asteroid breaks up into chunks, use more nukes.  Eventually you&#039;ll end up with a really epic meteor shower and a little radioactivity.  Better than a giant smoking hole in the ground.</p>
<p>One question:  If we see a comet coming at us from the great void, as in Lucifer&#039;s Hammer, will we have time to deflect it with nukes?</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Siegel</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-2/#comment-27508</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ned,

I double checked.  m should indeed be the mass of the asteroid, as I originally contended, not the mass of the bomb (the E term comes from the energy emitted by the bomb).  Sending a nuclear device this powerful on an accurately aimed rocket could reach an asteroid and detonate, changing course, in a matter of months.

Other solutions, like the ion drive + painting one side (assuming stabilization against the rotation which would result) would take decades for a comparable effect.  I&#039;m not saying that your solution isn&#039;t safer or just as effective given sufficient lead time, I&#039;m saying that it&#039;s a long way down the pipeline.

Ethan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned,</p>
<p>I double checked.  m should indeed be the mass of the asteroid, as I originally contended, not the mass of the bomb (the E term comes from the energy emitted by the bomb).  Sending a nuclear device this powerful on an accurately aimed rocket could reach an asteroid and detonate, changing course, in a matter of months.</p>
<p>Other solutions, like the ion drive + painting one side (assuming stabilization against the rotation which would result) would take decades for a comparable effect.  I&#039;m not saying that your solution isn&#039;t safer or just as effective given sufficient lead time, I&#039;m saying that it&#039;s a long way down the pipeline.</p>
<p>Ethan</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Durden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Durden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Far left wing political ideaology may not be substituted for sound science and sound engineering.&quot;

And explosions! Don&#039;t forget the explosions.

I like explosions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Far left wing political ideaology may not be substituted for sound science and sound engineering.&#034;</p>
<p>And explosions! Don&#039;t forget the explosions.</p>
<p>I like explosions.</p>
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		<title>By: Don D.</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-2/#comment-27493</link>
		<dc:creator>Don D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to survival no options should be left off the table.  You have to know what is coming at you though..

Low density carbon style asteroid? 70% or so of the asteroids out there...   What would a nuclear blast do to it?  Fuse it into a solid lump or somehow impart enough energy to overcome the gravity that formed it?  Gravity tractor sounds more feasable to me

Medium density silica/iron style asteroid? 10% or so population wise.  50/50shot  grav tractor vs hydrogen device nuclear weapon?

2 mile wide chunk of nearly pure iron/nickel? 5ish % population,  would probably be the best candidate for deflection goal nuclear detonation 

Ice/Comet   who knows what effect a nuke would have...

Ethan mentioned a no-fallout fusion device but the problem there is getting one of those monsters out of earth orbit.  Any other would be a plutonium - deturium / tritium weapon.

As far as space detonations go, both US and Soviets did experiments as far out as 300 or so miles, most of the american tests resulted in pretty lights in the sky and knocking out the power grid of Hawaii</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to survival no options should be left off the table.  You have to know what is coming at you though..</p>
<p>Low density carbon style asteroid? 70% or so of the asteroids out there&#8230;   What would a nuclear blast do to it?  Fuse it into a solid lump or somehow impart enough energy to overcome the gravity that formed it?  Gravity tractor sounds more feasable to me</p>
<p>Medium density silica/iron style asteroid? 10% or so population wise.  50/50shot  grav tractor vs hydrogen device nuclear weapon?</p>
<p>2 mile wide chunk of nearly pure iron/nickel? 5ish % population,  would probably be the best candidate for deflection goal nuclear detonation </p>
<p>Ice/Comet   who knows what effect a nuke would have&#8230;</p>
<p>Ethan mentioned a no-fallout fusion device but the problem there is getting one of those monsters out of earth orbit.  Any other would be a plutonium &#8211; deturium / tritium weapon.</p>
<p>As far as space detonations go, both US and Soviets did experiments as far out as 300 or so miles, most of the american tests resulted in pretty lights in the sky and knocking out the power grid of Hawaii</p>
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		<title>By: Science Teacher Secondary School USA</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-2/#comment-27488</link>
		<dc:creator>Science Teacher Secondary School USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asteroids can be moved by mind control if everyone on Earth concentrates on it.
We could also move the Earth out of its way !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asteroids can be moved by mind control if everyone on Earth concentrates on it.<br />
We could also move the Earth out of its way !</p>
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		<title>By: tmayes1999</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmayes1999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>asreoids are too massive to be moved by anything except nuclear explosions.
it is simply a matter of newtons second law.
tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asreoids are too massive to be moved by anything except nuclear explosions.<br />
it is simply a matter of newtons second law.<br />
tim</p>
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		<title>By: tmayes1999</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-2/#comment-27466</link>
		<dc:creator>tmayes1999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any non nuclear method of asteroid deflection is either impractical from the engineering point of view, or simply impossible. This is because of newton&#039;s first, and second laws. Far left wing political ideaology may not be substituted for sound
science and sound engineering.
tim mayes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any non nuclear method of asteroid deflection is either impractical from the engineering point of view, or simply impossible. This is because of newton&#039;s first, and second laws. Far left wing political ideaology may not be substituted for sound<br />
science and sound engineering.<br />
tim mayes</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Durden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Durden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - gravity tractors don&#039;t rely on landing on anything. A space probe simply circles the asteroid continuously, the motion slowly nudging it into a new course over many years.

As for this:

&quot;BUT, since I don&#039;t know that we actually have any alternatives ready, I&#039;d keep a bunch of nukes ready just in case. Like war or anything else, the nukes are the last chance card. You play it when there is not other choice.&quot;

Umm, alternatives? We don&#039;t have asteroid-killing nukes ready yet either. It&#039;s ALL theoretical at this point, because we&#039;ve never moved an asteroid. So the nuclear option is just as experimental as the gravity nudge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; gravity tractors don&#039;t rely on landing on anything. A space probe simply circles the asteroid continuously, the motion slowly nudging it into a new course over many years.</p>
<p>As for this:</p>
<p>&#034;BUT, since I don&#039;t know that we actually have any alternatives ready, I&#039;d keep a bunch of nukes ready just in case. Like war or anything else, the nukes are the last chance card. You play it when there is not other choice.&#034;</p>
<p>Umm, alternatives? We don&#039;t have asteroid-killing nukes ready yet either. It&#039;s ALL theoretical at this point, because we&#039;ve never moved an asteroid. So the nuclear option is just as experimental as the gravity nudge.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just imagine the average asteroid rolling and spinning in space before trying to land the hope of our species on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just imagine the average asteroid rolling and spinning in space before trying to land the hope of our species on it.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t the American Indians have a big laser that could deflect asteroids? Oh.  Wait.  That was a Star Trek episode...never mind.

Oh and...

Geokstr:  Good one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#039;t the American Indians have a big laser that could deflect asteroids? Oh.  Wait.  That was a Star Trek episode&#8230;never mind.</p>
<p>Oh and&#8230;</p>
<p>Geokstr:  Good one!</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, worry about nukes in space being part of a weaponization in space is silly.  If a nation the size of China or Russia or the US wanted to launch a quick strike, they&#039;d be better off pulling some submarines to their enemies coast and blasting them.  That would be much easier than trying to launch from a space platform which would have a predictable orbit, easily observed and a good target.  Since the US has a good fleet of such subs still around, why bother with the expense?  It seems to me that many of the opponents of using nukes don&#039;t ever want to admit that they could ever have any use.

In terms of effectiveness, if you could use a rocket motor and some other technology to move an asteroid to a new orbit or divert it more efficiently, then I&#039;d be for that.  BUT, since I don&#039;t know that we actually have any alternatives ready, I&#039;d keep a bunch of nukes ready just in case.  Like war or anything else, the nukes are the last chance card.  You play it when there is not other choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, worry about nukes in space being part of a weaponization in space is silly.  If a nation the size of China or Russia or the US wanted to launch a quick strike, they&#039;d be better off pulling some submarines to their enemies coast and blasting them.  That would be much easier than trying to launch from a space platform which would have a predictable orbit, easily observed and a good target.  Since the US has a good fleet of such subs still around, why bother with the expense?  It seems to me that many of the opponents of using nukes don&#039;t ever want to admit that they could ever have any use.</p>
<p>In terms of effectiveness, if you could use a rocket motor and some other technology to move an asteroid to a new orbit or divert it more efficiently, then I&#039;d be for that.  BUT, since I don&#039;t know that we actually have any alternatives ready, I&#039;d keep a bunch of nukes ready just in case.  Like war or anything else, the nukes are the last chance card.  You play it when there is not other choice.</p>
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		<title>By: cjameshuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjameshuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fragments are not necessarily as dangerous. If the fragments are large enough to survive reentry and enough of them hit the Earth, the total damage could be increased. However, if the fragments are small enough that they burn up before hitting ground, lose most of their energy in the upper atmosphere, or if they are dispersed enough to miss the Earth entirely, damage could be greatly reduced. Fragmenting the asteroid could only make things worse, but it could also turn a catastrophic impact into a light show and a few cool summers. In addition, there are things that could be done to minimize the probability of fragmenting the asteroid.

Avoiding use of nukes in space is foolishness. We have nukes now, hitting a habitat with one would be no enormous challenge. In addition, a spacecraft with a rocket motor and moderate sized fuel tank is at least as dangerous a weapon as a nuke. Nukes have many peaceful uses in space, and refusing to use them in those ways simply means that they&#039;ll only be used for violent means...except that the availability of rocket engines makes kinetic weapons far more likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fragments are not necessarily as dangerous. If the fragments are large enough to survive reentry and enough of them hit the Earth, the total damage could be increased. However, if the fragments are small enough that they burn up before hitting ground, lose most of their energy in the upper atmosphere, or if they are dispersed enough to miss the Earth entirely, damage could be greatly reduced. Fragmenting the asteroid could only make things worse, but it could also turn a catastrophic impact into a light show and a few cool summers. In addition, there are things that could be done to minimize the probability of fragmenting the asteroid.</p>
<p>Avoiding use of nukes in space is foolishness. We have nukes now, hitting a habitat with one would be no enormous challenge. In addition, a spacecraft with a rocket motor and moderate sized fuel tank is at least as dangerous a weapon as a nuke. Nukes have many peaceful uses in space, and refusing to use them in those ways simply means that they&#039;ll only be used for violent means&#8230;except that the availability of rocket engines makes kinetic weapons far more likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethan:  your calculation assumes a 100 Megaton bomb which is the correct order of magnitude since the Russians tested a 57 MT bomb.  But  you can&#039;t put half the energy into kinetic energy of moving the asteroid by exploding it next to the surface.  You need to provide momentum p = mv, and you have energy E = 0.5mv^2.
So p = sqrt(2mE).  Your article assumes m is the mass of the asteroid, but it really will only be the mass of half the bomb, and the deflection will be a million times smaller.

We need to use the energy to lift a large mass off the surface of the asteroid at a low velocity to get the most momentum for a given energy.  The key is to use part of the asteroid as the reaction mass.  The only way to achieve Ethan Siegel&#039;s limit is to use the bomb to split the asteroid into two halves.   This would require landing and drilling as in the worst sci-fi movie ever, Armageddon.

With lots of lead time, one could just drop lime on the asteroid to paint it white, which would change the Yarkovsky force and deflect it.

A 20 tonne spacecraft with an ion drive could be used as a gravity tractor with enough lead time.

With less lead time one could land a solar powered &quot;gravel pit&quot; on the asteroid and use a conveyer belt as a low speed mass driver to send gravel off the asteroid in the direction opposite to the desired deflection.

With minimal lead time one could try standoff nuclear explosions designed to lift a layer of rock about a meter thick off the surface of one side of the asteroid with a speed of 100 m/sec or so.   Fragmenting the asteroid has to be avoided, so this would be a pretty dangerous operation.  But one could try a large standoff distance first and then gradually increase the energy density delivered to the surface by moving the explosion points inward.  So many bombs would have to be delivered toward the incoming asteroid with enough time in between to judge the effects of the previous shots.  An exciting time for all concerned.

So we need a long lead time!  Find all the dangerous objects.  Then we only have to worry about comets which can&#039;t be predicted so far in advance even if found early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethan:  your calculation assumes a 100 Megaton bomb which is the correct order of magnitude since the Russians tested a 57 MT bomb.  But  you can&#039;t put half the energy into kinetic energy of moving the asteroid by exploding it next to the surface.  You need to provide momentum p = mv, and you have energy E = 0.5mv^2.<br />
So p = sqrt(2mE).  Your article assumes m is the mass of the asteroid, but it really will only be the mass of half the bomb, and the deflection will be a million times smaller.</p>
<p>We need to use the energy to lift a large mass off the surface of the asteroid at a low velocity to get the most momentum for a given energy.  The key is to use part of the asteroid as the reaction mass.  The only way to achieve Ethan Siegel&#039;s limit is to use the bomb to split the asteroid into two halves.   This would require landing and drilling as in the worst sci-fi movie ever, Armageddon.</p>
<p>With lots of lead time, one could just drop lime on the asteroid to paint it white, which would change the Yarkovsky force and deflect it.</p>
<p>A 20 tonne spacecraft with an ion drive could be used as a gravity tractor with enough lead time.</p>
<p>With less lead time one could land a solar powered &#034;gravel pit&#034; on the asteroid and use a conveyer belt as a low speed mass driver to send gravel off the asteroid in the direction opposite to the desired deflection.</p>
<p>With minimal lead time one could try standoff nuclear explosions designed to lift a layer of rock about a meter thick off the surface of one side of the asteroid with a speed of 100 m/sec or so.   Fragmenting the asteroid has to be avoided, so this would be a pretty dangerous operation.  But one could try a large standoff distance first and then gradually increase the energy density delivered to the surface by moving the explosion points inward.  So many bombs would have to be delivered toward the incoming asteroid with enough time in between to judge the effects of the previous shots.  An exciting time for all concerned.</p>
<p>So we need a long lead time!  Find all the dangerous objects.  Then we only have to worry about comets which can&#039;t be predicted so far in advance even if found early.</p>
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		<title>By: neoguru</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-1/#comment-27364</link>
		<dc:creator>neoguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if the nuke broke the threat into smaller pieces, it will at least improve the situation. What&#039;s better, being hit by a bullet or shotgun pellets? Niether is pleasant, but you have a much better chance of surviving the shotgun blast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the nuke broke the threat into smaller pieces, it will at least improve the situation. What&#039;s better, being hit by a bullet or shotgun pellets? Niether is pleasant, but you have a much better chance of surviving the shotgun blast.</p>
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		<title>By: John in Missouri</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in Missouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have absolutely no reservations about using nukes in space to deflect an asteroid, but I have to admit that since the first big budget movie came out of Hollywood suggesting we blow an asteroid to smithereens with nukes, a little imp in the back of my mind has whispered softly, &quot;but what about all the  detritus left from the explosion.  Isn&#039;t it just as dangerous?&quot;  I suppose it would depend upon the asteroid.  

In his famous book &quot;High Frontier&quot; Gerard O&#039;Neill has suggested a method for maneuvering moderately sized asteroids (the size that nukes would have a prayer of moving) and it may be worth considering for something like this.  He was a great fan of the mass driver and suggests that mass drivers could be installed on a hunk of rock and it could be turned into a controlled object; the rock itself providing the reaction mass and energy from the sun powering the driver. If it works for changing a random space nugget into a spaceship, why not change an asteroid with its eye on earth into something similar.  I presume that we would have to find it in time to get to it and apply the small but continuous thrust that would be needed to change its trajectory enough to matter, but other than that one admittedly large difficulty, everything else is known technology and simple physics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolutely no reservations about using nukes in space to deflect an asteroid, but I have to admit that since the first big budget movie came out of Hollywood suggesting we blow an asteroid to smithereens with nukes, a little imp in the back of my mind has whispered softly, &#034;but what about all the  detritus left from the explosion.  Isn&#039;t it just as dangerous?&#034;  I suppose it would depend upon the asteroid.  </p>
<p>In his famous book &#034;High Frontier&#034; Gerard O&#039;Neill has suggested a method for maneuvering moderately sized asteroids (the size that nukes would have a prayer of moving) and it may be worth considering for something like this.  He was a great fan of the mass driver and suggests that mass drivers could be installed on a hunk of rock and it could be turned into a controlled object; the rock itself providing the reaction mass and energy from the sun powering the driver. If it works for changing a random space nugget into a spaceship, why not change an asteroid with its eye on earth into something similar.  I presume that we would have to find it in time to get to it and apply the small but continuous thrust that would be needed to change its trajectory enough to matter, but other than that one admittedly large difficulty, everything else is known technology and simple physics.</p>
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		<title>By: geokstr</title>
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		<dc:creator>geokstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A man cannot defeat a bear with his own strength.&quot;

UP here near the Arctic Circle, we found it much more efficient to defeat all the Bears at once by using a Favre instead.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;A man cannot defeat a bear with his own strength.&#034;</p>
<p>UP here near the Arctic Circle, we found it much more efficient to defeat all the Bears at once by using a Favre instead.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Lunan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-1/#comment-27351</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Lunan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are non-nuclear options.   Rusty Schweickart himself apparently favours the gravitational tractor option, though that needs a lot of time.   Prof. Colin McInnes of Strathclyde Uni has considered the kinetic option, a scaled-up version of NASA&#039;s Deep Impact, and ESA is planning a similar mission.   In the 1980s Gordon Ross of Glasgow School of Art came up with the idea of using a parabolic mirror to create a jet  (first publication 1992, Analog October 1994).   More recently he&#039;s designed a multi-mirror system called Archimedes.   That&#039;s been evaluated by Glasgow Uni Aerospace Dept. in a study financed by ESA, and a detailed paper by Dr. Max Vasile endorsing it was published this month - not on web yet, but watch out for &#039;mirrorbees&#039;.   His group considered other options but considered it was the best - superior to mass drivers, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are non-nuclear options.   Rusty Schweickart himself apparently favours the gravitational tractor option, though that needs a lot of time.   Prof. Colin McInnes of Strathclyde Uni has considered the kinetic option, a scaled-up version of NASA&#039;s Deep Impact, and ESA is planning a similar mission.   In the 1980s Gordon Ross of Glasgow School of Art came up with the idea of using a parabolic mirror to create a jet  (first publication 1992, Analog October 1994).   More recently he&#039;s designed a multi-mirror system called Archimedes.   That&#039;s been evaluated by Glasgow Uni Aerospace Dept. in a study financed by ESA, and a detailed paper by Dr. Max Vasile endorsing it was published this month &#8211; not on web yet, but watch out for &#039;mirrorbees&#039;.   His group considered other options but considered it was the best &#8211; superior to mass drivers, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-1/#comment-27342</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man cannot defeat a bear with his own strength. So use a gun to shoot it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man cannot defeat a bear with his own strength. So use a gun to shoot it!</p>
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		<title>By: Prathapan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-1/#comment-27338</link>
		<dc:creator>Prathapan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man cannot defeat a Bear with his own 
strength.So use the Bears strength to defeat
it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man cannot defeat a Bear with his own<br />
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		<title>By: Vagueofgodalming</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/27/bad-idea-blowing-up-asteroids-with-nuclear-missiles/comment-page-1/#comment-27333</link>
		<dc:creator>Vagueofgodalming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble with Ethan&#039;s argument is that he talks about conservation of energy and momentum, and then just assumes that half the energy of the bomb will go into moving the asteroid.

I think the calculation needs to be a lot more careful.  What is the &lt;i&gt;momentum&lt;/i&gt; of half the photons and debris from the bomb?  That tells you how much the asteroid will move.  From that you can work out the kinetic energy imparted to the asteroid.  The difference between that and the (half-)energy of the bomb presumably goes into heating the asteroid up.

I think, ultimately, this is about the second law of thermodynamics: just because you&#039;ve got a lot of energy stored somewhere, doesn&#039;t mean you can automatically use it for anything you want.  Efficiency, as Ian said, comes into it.

On the other hand, breaking one large lump into a lot of smaller ones might still be a good thing.  The small pieces will have a greater surface area in aggregate, and so may be more effectively stopped or slowed by the atmosphere.  You&#039;d still end up with the same amount of energy delivered to the earth, but a series of huge airbursts may still be better than one really ginormous groundburst (or splash in the sea).

Either way the answer involves actual intellectual hard work and study, i.e. the opposite of what internet discussions are about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with Ethan&#039;s argument is that he talks about conservation of energy and momentum, and then just assumes that half the energy of the bomb will go into moving the asteroid.</p>
<p>I think the calculation needs to be a lot more careful.  What is the <i>momentum</i> of half the photons and debris from the bomb?  That tells you how much the asteroid will move.  From that you can work out the kinetic energy imparted to the asteroid.  The difference between that and the (half-)energy of the bomb presumably goes into heating the asteroid up.</p>
<p>I think, ultimately, this is about the second law of thermodynamics: just because you&#039;ve got a lot of energy stored somewhere, doesn&#039;t mean you can automatically use it for anything you want.  Efficiency, as Ian said, comes into it.</p>
<p>On the other hand, breaking one large lump into a lot of smaller ones might still be a good thing.  The small pieces will have a greater surface area in aggregate, and so may be more effectively stopped or slowed by the atmosphere.  You&#039;d still end up with the same amount of energy delivered to the earth, but a series of huge airbursts may still be better than one really ginormous groundburst (or splash in the sea).</p>
<p>Either way the answer involves actual intellectual hard work and study, i.e. the opposite of what internet discussions are about.</p>
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		<title>By: Larloch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really interested in the efficiency of the nuclear missiles in the space. There is no air --  nothing to burn (no fireball will blow up), no shock wave, and it won&#039;t create vacuum. So what&#039;s left? Radiation? In space? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m really interested in the efficiency of the nuclear missiles in the space. There is no air &#8212;  nothing to burn (no fireball will blow up), no shock wave, and it won&#039;t create vacuum. So what&#039;s left? Radiation? In space? <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wizardd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizardd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, radioactivity in space? Come on, space is filled with radiation. Nuclear explosion wouldn&#039;t make any difference. 

You guys are watching too much movies if you believe that we could attach a engine to asteroid and it would skip hitting Earth. 

1.) You should find the asteroid early enough to haul the massive engine and the massive load of fuel.

2.) You have to assemble that complex at the asteroid.

3.) You could try smaller option, but then you would have to find the asteroid even earlier.

Same applies on other SCIFI options. And yes, the composition of the asteroid plays huge role when you are planning to plant something on a asteroid.

Massive laser is much better option and imho mankind should develope massive lasers capable of heating and by that breaking or just changing the characterists of the asteroid. Three of those in the Earth orbit could cover up all directions towards Earth and they could be used together too.

But before that, we don&#039;t have any other option than nuclear warhead. We don&#039;t have even missiled to do that right now. And I don&#039;t believe that we have big enough nukes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, radioactivity in space? Come on, space is filled with radiation. Nuclear explosion wouldn&#039;t make any difference. </p>
<p>You guys are watching too much movies if you believe that we could attach a engine to asteroid and it would skip hitting Earth. </p>
<p>1.) You should find the asteroid early enough to haul the massive engine and the massive load of fuel.</p>
<p>2.) You have to assemble that complex at the asteroid.</p>
<p>3.) You could try smaller option, but then you would have to find the asteroid even earlier.</p>
<p>Same applies on other SCIFI options. And yes, the composition of the asteroid plays huge role when you are planning to plant something on a asteroid.</p>
<p>Massive laser is much better option and imho mankind should develope massive lasers capable of heating and by that breaking or just changing the characterists of the asteroid. Three of those in the Earth orbit could cover up all directions towards Earth and they could be used together too.</p>
<p>But before that, we don&#039;t have any other option than nuclear warhead. We don&#039;t have even missiled to do that right now. And I don&#039;t believe that we have big enough nukes.</p>
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