Comments on: Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun? (Part 1)

By: Concern Citizen

Concern Citizen — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:47:00 +0000

What's not make sense to you, make sense to illuminati.

By: The Unknown One

The Unknown One — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:26:39 +0000

The project is flawed, the Sun is not powered by Nuclear Fission. The Sun is electric. The Gas Giants will only "ignite" if there is transference of energy from the Sun (reported as occurring from NASA's Chandra, as it reflex the Suns X-rays). This could be possible if our Solar System travels through enough stellar plasma.

Yes, people will tend to disbelieve. Thats entirely you own prerogative and you are entitled to your own opinions.

By: John Q

John Q — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:38:56 +0000

Pavel Smutny…

You claim to know a lot about physics yet you have extremely horrible grammar and spelling errors throughout all your posts. Anyone who has that kind of knowledge should have some grasp on basic grammar and spelling. No professor I know would ever pass someone with grammar and spelling like yours being found on their thesis papers. Where did you learn this physics you claim to know? I am sure many would like to know.

Great article : )

By: Yael Dragwyla

Yael Dragwyla — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:26:05 +0000

Nota bene: Perhaps the greatest difference between conspiracy theorists and scientists is that scientists's primary tools for determining the nature of reality are logic, reason, and data gained using repeated observations, while those of conspiracy theorists are fear and wish-fulfillment coupled with pure imagination. Scientists are looking for the shape of reality, while conspiracy theorists are looking for its meaning, especially as it applies to them. The two groups are almost complementary, in the same way that religion and science are, save that conspiracy theorists generally do not have the sort of educational background that would enable them to sort their beliefs out and see which ones work best and which ones don't work.

By: Yael Dragwyla

Yael Dragwyla — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:19:23 +0000

There are strong differences between scientists and conspiracy theorists. One of those differences is education — a scientist has had thorough training in his or her field, and before that got a solid grounding in essential skills and knowledge such as history, mathematics, etc. This is rarely true of conspiracy theorists, most of whom seem to lack much of an education, including the most fundamental skills, such as literacy, logic, grammar, etc. Conspiracy theorists do frequently display rich imaginations, and might have made great artists if their artistic bent had been well-trained, but that doesn't seem to happen. They have been short-changed educationally and, perhaps, developmentally — I think a lot of them *can't* absorb even the most basic concepts necessary for them to comprehend what science is and does, and that may not be the schools' fault. A shadowy participant in all this controversy and what has gone into it is (are?) the media. People with inadequate educations often turn to the TV and movies and so on as their window on a universe they can barely understand, often having difficulty separating what they see there from objective reality. Call the media a wild card which just adds fuel to the fire. Then there's the blogosphere, which enables anyone with an opinion to post that opinion all over the place, and everyone else to see it. This is both good and bad — good, because it allows people to see what other people are doing, bad, because in the blogosphere, rumors often gain the same status that proven theories do. People with a scientific education know how to sort out rumor from useful data, but often others don't. All of which makes for fascinating sociological analyses of subcultures like those of conspiracy theorists.

By: Kristen

Kristen — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:20:52 +0000

I don't undersand why, when our world is in parell, we look at the seemingly easy way out and try to play God so we can not learn from our mistakes here and create doom in another part of our solor system. Stay on topic and face our humanly complex shadows here. It is perposterous to think that we are giving up on this planet when we haven't even been enlightened enough to see it for it's true beauty.

By: Gecko

Gecko — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:23:16 +0000

Interesting article? But not substantial. Though the masons always strive toward wisdom, and the golden ratio? It will not make sence to destroy any of the grand architect know work, Is that why the doomsayers always try to place suspitions on the masons? Try asking the vatican these are more likely to conjure up such extremeties and Robert Mugabe too.

By: paul meyer

paul meyer — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:18:52 +0000

Set Saturn ablaze so it makes helium out of hydrogen? Huh? Thought they need tritium for that (2 neutrons/atom) and most hydrogen atoms don't have any neutrons and are therefore lighter. The heavier stuff would preferentially sink deep within Saturn, even under where deuterium (1 neutron)accumulates. Would think it'd be real(ly) hot that deep in Saturn, so the Cassini components would have long since vaporized before they get to the fusable stuff. Conclusion: Don't worry about mad scientists (or anyone else) turning Saturn into a star. It's not gonna happen.

By: My friends call me Tiny

My friends call me Tiny — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:24:57 +0000

Well the only problem I could see is before you could reach a prompt critical reaction. The increasing temperatures would begin to melt and probably boil the plutonium. I would imagine that it would not remain essentially a compact environment. Also I would suspect the violent pressures involved would cause the material to become distorted and spread out making a PC event unlikely. The reason the bombs work is precise implosion in literally 1/10000 of a second. The descent towards a gas giants center takes considerably longer.

By: Ramdoubler

Ramdoubler — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:52:03 +0000

….So when is Part 2 getting published ?

By: alandee

alandee — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:02:58 +0000

Ahhh to dream and have vision. What a stunning story, and to think my life was all the poorer for not having heard / read it till today ! Wonderful fiction is the result of wonderful minds, call them conspiracy theorists, or artists, daydreamers or whack jobs, they provide us with an alternative view that can only enrich and inspire.

Thank you Ian, and I can't wait for part two !!

Cheers,
al.

By: Pavel Smutny

Pavel Smutny — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:00:34 +0000

Bob you are totaly …. without any backround,….

By: gudenboink

gudenboink — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:21:58 +0000

Think about all the Conspiracy crap over the years…… They just can't accept truth or science at any level.

These people have WAAAY too much free time and should learn to do something constructive with it. Like get a job so they can buy rope for their own neck tie when they leap from the Brooklyn bridge.
Now that would be a great humanitarian art form – Conspiracy Theorists hanging from a bridge. I'd pay to see it.. Over and over and over again….

My favorite theory is that NASA faked the moon landing, meaning they've managed to keep the 400,000 employees and people involved quiet for forty years.

Man, that has to be EXPENSIVE!!! No wonder they can't afford all the missions they would like to.

By: bob

bob — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:19:47 +0000

To edit my above post…Michaelson and Morely were NOT forced into their situation and I might not have made that clear.

By: bob

bob — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:17:57 +0000

Pavel, you have no background in plasma science or any science of any kind. You might have browsed a source but show no grasping of the material. You are assuming that the laws of physics operate differently in other parts of the universe and that is not the case. Spectroscopy has delivered that answer.

People were not forced to look at anything just as Michaelson and Morley were forced to experiment with the dangerous mercury bath they used in their experiments. Nor was Rutherford forced to suffer what he wound up suffering in his dangerous experiments.

People were forced against their wills in Nazi Germany by Mendele and some black prisoners in the U.S. were experimented on prior and during WWII. People were punished for that.

Pavel, it appears that Aristotlean thought is governing you.

By: Chuck R.

Chuck R. — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:44:46 +0000

AHAHAHAHA!! "The Story" had me intrigued until Titan. LMAO!

By: Al Hall

Al Hall — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:12:20 +0000

btw-
Interesting.. Didn't know that… But if we think about it, how much of the total mass of our system (minus the sun) is Jupiter?… Discounting dark matter, of course.. Sorry, I couldn't resist.. .. Jupiter is the logical choice for a 'believable' story… I guess they (he) just got lucky…

By: btw

btw — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:57:25 +0000

As I recall, for the movie 2001, Jupiter was chosen not because of its greater mass, but because a convincing Saturn, a composite of a sphere with detailed rings, was beyond the special effects technology (and perhaps the budget) of that era. It was difficult enough just to create a believable matte of Jupiter.

Kubrick wanted Saturn, but it was not to be.

By: Al Hall

Al Hall — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:08:19 +0000

I'm patiently waiting for part two..

By: Tyler Durden

Tyler Durden — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:03:00 +0000

^ Political conspiracies are rather boring. I mean, it's a no-brainer. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Can there really be a doubt that every government that has ever existed has craved more power and gone to whatever shady lengths they needed to in order to expand theirs?

By: marcellus

marcellus — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:01:03 +0000

This story is proof positive that people should not mix LSD, pot and alcohol.

Anyone who believes this (stuff) should get a free ticket to the Yucatan penisula for the Mayan Doomsday prediction.

One condition: After it fails to materialize, they'd have to walk home.

By: James

James — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:18:37 +0000

Tim, not all conspiracy theories are false. Google up the terms ESCHELON, COINTELPRO, Operation Northwoods, MKULTRA, some time for some fun reading. It is actually quite healthy to maintain a good level of skepticism about everything, especially everything originating from large corporations or the government.

By: astrocrazy

astrocrazy — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:17:09 +0000

One thing that the conspiracy theorists should be given credit to is that they make our world a more fun place to live in…..
thanks to them….we all can have some good fun!!!

By: Tim N.

Tim N. — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:21:34 +0000

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By: Tim N.

Tim N. — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:18:41 +0000

WoW, These conspiracy theory nut jobs need a hobby. Should we tell them about the Plutonian Ice People? I wonder if they realize that the very first conspiracy was planted in humans by a race of beings from far far away! Does anyone know the actual number of C. theories that have been PROVEN to be REAL? My guess is leaning toward ZERO!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA