Comments on: Phoenix in the Land of Mars' Midnight Sun http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/23/phoenix-in-the-land-of-mars-midnight-sun/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:56:59 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ralph Rewes http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/23/phoenix-in-the-land-of-mars-midnight-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-27024 Ralph Rewes Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:53:05 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=15909#comment-27024 Nice. Somebody read my criticism and then they published a clear photo. And NASA also published an even better photo. It pays to points things out. However the new NASA picture has its left side cut off. I even received an email from a NASA fan I want to share with you: Ralph, > You made a less than enlightened comment on Universe Today.  The folks at NASA are well aware of polarized light 3D technology.   I was sure of that they at NASA are well aware of the advances otherwise they will not be ruling the roost. That is precisely the crux of the matter. Having all the most advanced technology of the world. What I fail to understand is that they are not being able to come up with a simple public relation policy, thus creating all kinds of weird speculation, conspiracy theories, etc. A simple system of double pictures, as in a toy like View Master, can give fantastic 3-D panoramic and close up views. If the View Master system can be upgraded to digital, the benefits are endless.  You don't even need polarizing glasses or silver screens! You can sell the View Master discs with which you have the best views. You can check the latest at Apple stereoscopic devices. Even with an old, old stereoscope to peek and naked  you can obtain better results without complicated cameras. There is not problem there. You only need to connect the dots. And NASA does not. http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/hiperwall/ > The problem is that it takes a matched set of projectors, polarizing filters, polarizing glasses, and a silver screen to deliver an image.  You may have not realized, but people view web content on computer monitors not in 3D movie theaters.   How stupid of me! You don't say! A view master toy costs less than $5. The way you put it is an excuse for never to have pictures of Mars seen in high resolution shown in an IMAX movie. > This fact made NASA’s choices few.  Regarding the quality of the images, when you are able to send an unmanned rover to another planet, receive 3D images from said rover, and the images are of better quality than the images that NASA has produced, feel free to email me. Your sarcastic answer reflects the arrogant NASA attitude. I know NASA has the means no individual has, except to prove that you are doing some questionable selection of what to give to the public and what not to publish. Most of the photos given to the public taken by the Phoenix mission stink. I am sure you have more than those photos in stock. Why? That I don't know. However, it does not change the fact that  NASA having super high resolution pictures of Mars as those of Io, for instance, they choose the crummiest pieces to show to the public. This latest one was unbelievably crude. See a minor enhancement, how it changes everything. I have been checking this path for a long time and you are not going to the deny the cut and paste job done on the picture of the so called COUCH take. Why? Are NASA paster sloppy? Or they did it on purpose? I cannot think of any other option. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kj_2bTy_k Zak Nice. Somebody read my criticism and then they published a clear photo. And NASA also published an even better photo. It pays to points things out. However the new NASA picture has its left side cut off.

I even received an email from a NASA fan I want to share with you:

Ralph,
> You made a less than enlightened comment on Universe Today.  The folks at NASA are well aware of polarized light 3D technology.  

I was sure of that they at NASA are well aware of the advances otherwise they will not be ruling the roost. That is precisely the crux of the matter. Having all the most advanced technology of the world. What I fail to understand is that they are not being able to come up with a simple public relation policy, thus creating all kinds of weird speculation, conspiracy theories, etc.

A simple system of double pictures, as in a toy like View Master, can give fantastic 3-D panoramic and close up views. If the View Master system can be upgraded to digital, the benefits are endless. 

You don't even need polarizing glasses or silver screens! You can sell the View Master discs with which you have the best views.

You can check the latest at Apple stereoscopic devices. Even with an old, old stereoscope to peek and naked  you can obtain better results without complicated cameras. There is not problem there. You only need to connect the dots. And NASA does not.

http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/hiperwall/

> The problem is that it takes a matched set of projectors, polarizing filters, polarizing glasses, and a silver screen to deliver an image.  You may have not realized, but people view web content on computer monitors not in 3D movie theaters.  

How stupid of me! You don't say! A view master toy costs less than $5. The way you put it is an excuse for never to have pictures of Mars seen in high resolution shown in an IMAX movie.

> This fact made NASA’s choices few.  Regarding the quality of the images, when you are able to send an unmanned rover to another planet, receive 3D images from said rover, and the images are of better quality than the images that NASA has produced, feel free to email me.

Your sarcastic answer reflects the arrogant NASA attitude. I know NASA has the means no individual has, except to prove that you are doing some questionable selection of what to give to the public and what not to publish. Most of the photos given to the public taken by the Phoenix mission stink. I am sure you have more than those photos in stock. Why? That I don't know.

However, it does not change the fact that  NASA having super high resolution pictures of Mars as those of Io, for instance, they choose the crummiest pieces to show to the public. This latest one was unbelievably crude. See a minor enhancement, how it changes everything.

I have been checking this path for a long time and you are not going to the deny the cut and paste job done on the picture of the so called COUCH take. Why? Are NASA paster sloppy? Or they did it on purpose? I cannot think of any other option.

See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kj_2bTy_k

Zak

]]> By: Pavel Smutny http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/23/phoenix-in-the-land-of-mars-midnight-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-27001 Pavel Smutny Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:25:46 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=15909#comment-27001 There were many atomic bomb tests,...A. bombs were droped on Japan though people, governments didn't know what exactly would actually happen. Hydrogen, Neutron,...bombs were tested even in oceans,...though there was risk of igniting oceans, the whole Earth. Scientiests wants to make small black hole in labs, though it can sucks the entire Earth,...but nobel price for Hawking,...is more important than enormous risk for whole mankind. You want to persuade us about clear human exploitation of Cassini-Cuygens probe. HA-HA-HA. There were many atomic bomb tests,…A. bombs were droped on Japan though people, governments didn't know what exactly would actually happen. Hydrogen, Neutron,…bombs were tested even in oceans,…though there was risk of igniting oceans, the whole Earth. Scientiests wants to make small black hole in labs, though it can sucks the entire Earth,…but nobel price for Hawking,…is more important than enormous risk for whole mankind. You want to persuade us about clear human exploitation of Cassini-Cuygens probe. HA-HA-HA.

]]> By: Ralph Rewes http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/23/phoenix-in-the-land-of-mars-midnight-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-26857 Ralph Rewes Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:37:42 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=15909#comment-26857 Great, beautiful, clear, HD pictures of the terrain. I am amazed. Great, beautiful, clear, HD pictures of the terrain. I am amazed.

]]> By: Nexus http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/23/phoenix-in-the-land-of-mars-midnight-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-26848 Nexus Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:28:29 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=15909#comment-26848 Phoenix is expected to die because of the extreme cold, lack of sunlight and getting covered in carbon dioxide frost. The probe might survive and recover once spring comes, but I wouldn't bet on it. According to the official website, they're not even going to try to contact Phoenix in spring, but I think they should. What have they got to lose? Phoenix is expected to die because of the extreme cold, lack of sunlight and getting covered in carbon dioxide frost. The probe might survive and recover once spring comes, but I wouldn't bet on it.

According to the official website, they're not even going to try to contact Phoenix in spring, but I think they should. What have they got to lose?

]]> By: Al Hall http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/23/phoenix-in-the-land-of-mars-midnight-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-26843 Al Hall Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:55:34 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=15909#comment-26843 The mission has been a success in my opinion - landing..., fairly constant communications ( both stepping stones ) -, although the mission objectives have yet to be met.. , I'm still impatiently waiting for a good water analysis.. I hope we will get it.. I really hope it.. We need to take the next step. The mission has been a success in my opinion – landing…, fairly constant communications ( both stepping stones ) -, although the mission objectives have yet to be met.. , I'm still impatiently waiting for a good water analysis.. I hope we will get it.. I really hope it.. We need to take the next step.

]]> By: Sili http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/23/phoenix-in-the-land-of-mars-midnight-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-26841 Sili Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:55:33 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=15909#comment-26841 What are the main issues that will cause Phoenix to die when Winter comes? Is there no chance at all that we might have her back come Spring? What are the main issues that will cause Phoenix to die when Winter comes?

Is there no chance at all that we might have her back come Spring?

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