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	<title>Comments on: Mars Arctic in 3D from Phoenix</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-27232</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe if they would pull that rock off they&#039;ll be led to j&#039;onn j&#039;onnz martian lair lol :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe if they would pull that rock off they&#039;ll be led to j&#039;onn j&#039;onnz martian lair lol <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Arno</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-27012</link>
		<dc:creator>Arno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can&#039;t create polarized images on flatscreens.
only on crt&#039;s with expensive glasses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can&#039;t create polarized images on flatscreens.<br />
only on crt&#039;s with expensive glasses.</p>
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		<title>By: Aryan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-27006</link>
		<dc:creator>Aryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you ppl for posting this once again wonderful 3D view of Mars.

Having said that, a couple of postings were dealing with the fact ( &lt; fact  ) that the resolutions of the publicly avaliable photos are of a somewhat low(er) resolution &amp; quality then the ones that are internally avaliable. 

I do not find it odd, because I think I know some of the scientific/commercial  based reasons to do that, but the US tax payer should be treated with a little more respect then an &#039;Highrez&#039; Atari ST 640x400 B/W monitor resolution. 

Other then then that, just once again; tnx  A LOT !  :)

Regards,
Aryan - an EU taxpayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you ppl for posting this once again wonderful 3D view of Mars.</p>
<p>Having said that, a couple of postings were dealing with the fact ( &lt; fact  ) that the resolutions of the publicly avaliable photos are of a somewhat low(er) resolution &amp; quality then the ones that are internally avaliable. </p>
<p>I do not find it odd, because I think I know some of the scientific/commercial  based reasons to do that, but the US tax payer should be treated with a little more respect then an &#039;Highrez&#039; Atari ST 640&#215;400 B/W monitor resolution. </p>
<p>Other then then that, just once again; tnx  A LOT !  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Aryan &#8211; an EU taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: DavEy</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-26978</link>
		<dc:creator>DavEy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more source for glasses... 

Purchase Hexstatic - MasterView and enjoy the benefis of getting Red-Blue glasses (still work on these images just fine) and a great CD+DVD of music by Hexstatic!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more source for glasses&#8230; </p>
<p>Purchase Hexstatic &#8211; MasterView and enjoy the benefis of getting Red-Blue glasses (still work on these images just fine) and a great CD+DVD of music by Hexstatic!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-26957</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just get a pair of red/green glasses.

Here are three sources: 
1. Buy a 3D movie, such as Spy Kids. The glasses (4 pair) come in the DVD box.
2. Go to the grocery store and get red and green cellophane. They sell it in on the same aisle as the plastic bags. Stretch it over some cheap sunglass frames.
3. Go here: http://www.3dglassesonline.com/how-do-3d-glasses-work/  All they cost is postage.

Now quityerbitchin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just get a pair of red/green glasses.</p>
<p>Here are three sources:<br />
1. Buy a 3D movie, such as Spy Kids. The glasses (4 pair) come in the DVD box.<br />
2. Go to the grocery store and get red and green cellophane. They sell it in on the same aisle as the plastic bags. Stretch it over some cheap sunglass frames.<br />
3. Go here: <a href="http://www.3dglassesonline.com/how-do-3d-glasses-work/" rel="nofollow">http://www.3dglassesonline.com/how-do-3d-glasses-work/</a>  All they cost is postage.</p>
<p>Now quityerbitchin.</p>
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		<title>By: VonDrako</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-26945</link>
		<dc:creator>VonDrako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. -- If NASA released side-by-side images, then people would really complain.  Also, have you ever tried side-by-side with images so big?  It&#039;s near impossible unless you back way up (and even then, headache central!).  Really it&#039;s only feasible for small images.

I&#039;m sure if you go to NASA&#039;s website on this project you can download the separate right/left images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. &#8212; If NASA released side-by-side images, then people would really complain.  Also, have you ever tried side-by-side with images so big?  It&#039;s near impossible unless you back way up (and even then, headache central!).  Really it&#039;s only feasible for small images.</p>
<p>I&#039;m sure if you go to NASA&#039;s website on this project you can download the separate right/left images.</p>
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		<title>By: VonDrako</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-26943</link>
		<dc:creator>VonDrako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put Sammy!

As for the other post about red/green vs. red/cyan?  The &quot;difference&quot; is that the first image is in color.  The others are B&amp;W, so the cyan truly looks cyan.  Since they color image has additional yellow components to it, the cyan looks green (look at a color wheel).  All the images look fine with my cardboard glasses.

Also, only conspiracy theorists think that NASA is covering up evidence of the &quot;little green men.&quot;  The images are sent back in discontinuous (often discontiguous) chunks, then they have to be stitched together, which might not be seamlessly possible.

Geez people!  Would you at least give these things a *little* technical thinking, beyond the surface level, before you rant &amp; rave and criticize the people who present this stuff... people who are smarter than you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put Sammy!</p>
<p>As for the other post about red/green vs. red/cyan?  The &#034;difference&#034; is that the first image is in color.  The others are B&amp;W, so the cyan truly looks cyan.  Since they color image has additional yellow components to it, the cyan looks green (look at a color wheel).  All the images look fine with my cardboard glasses.</p>
<p>Also, only conspiracy theorists think that NASA is covering up evidence of the &#034;little green men.&#034;  The images are sent back in discontinuous (often discontiguous) chunks, then they have to be stitched together, which might not be seamlessly possible.</p>
<p>Geez people!  Would you at least give these things a *little* technical thinking, beyond the surface level, before you rant &amp; rave and criticize the people who present this stuff&#8230; people who are smarter than you?</p>
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		<title>By: RonW</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26933</link>
		<dc:creator>RonW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, but the red/blue glasses are a pain. For web viewing, why not have side-by-side pairs? They can be viewed by holding one&#039;s hands to one&#039;s nose and forehead to improvise a stereo viewer. (Admittedly, it does help if one is near-sighted.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, but the red/blue glasses are a pain. For web viewing, why not have side-by-side pairs? They can be viewed by holding one&#039;s hands to one&#039;s nose and forehead to improvise a stereo viewer. (Admittedly, it does help if one is near-sighted.)</p>
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		<title>By: Vimm</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26922</link>
		<dc:creator>Vimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention sending the equipment to MARS requires that they radiation shield and otherwise impair their hardware to the point where they&#039;re still using about 128 megs of ram on this thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention sending the equipment to MARS requires that they radiation shield and otherwise impair their hardware to the point where they&#039;re still using about 128 megs of ram on this thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26810</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first picture is Red/Green, the others are Red/Cyan. You&#039;d need two different anaglyph glasses to view these pictures.

And a question for Ralph. Maybe you can invent a way other than red/blue variants to bring 3D to a standard LCD monitor. Give up? Because it doesn&#039;t exist, that&#039;s why you have anaglyph images.

The only alternatives to anaglyph glasses are 3-D shutter glasses, which work best  on CRT monitors with high refresh rates (120Hz or greater). Forget about using it on a standard LCD monitor. Not to mention, you have to pay over $100 for the glasses, the software, and the image needs to saved in a special format for 3-D shutter glasses. Sounds mainstream to you?

Another alternative is to buy special 3D LCD monitors like IZ3D. These are basically 2 LCD screens in one monitor, one for each eye. Glasses are still required, they work similarly to 3D shutter glasses.  These monitors cost $600 to $3000. Sounds mainstream to you?

Perhaps NASA was thinking the best way to bring 3D images to the masses, was simply the easiest to implement--anaglyph. Works on any monitor, and all you need is the glasses, which you can make yourself or get with a $5 children&#039;s 3-D book. 

Another way is to release the images as a cross-eyed pair, but I really doubt they wanted to give people like Ralph a headache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first picture is Red/Green, the others are Red/Cyan. You&#039;d need two different anaglyph glasses to view these pictures.</p>
<p>And a question for Ralph. Maybe you can invent a way other than red/blue variants to bring 3D to a standard LCD monitor. Give up? Because it doesn&#039;t exist, that&#039;s why you have anaglyph images.</p>
<p>The only alternatives to anaglyph glasses are 3-D shutter glasses, which work best  on CRT monitors with high refresh rates (120Hz or greater). Forget about using it on a standard LCD monitor. Not to mention, you have to pay over $100 for the glasses, the software, and the image needs to saved in a special format for 3-D shutter glasses. Sounds mainstream to you?</p>
<p>Another alternative is to buy special 3D LCD monitors like IZ3D. These are basically 2 LCD screens in one monitor, one for each eye. Glasses are still required, they work similarly to 3D shutter glasses.  These monitors cost $600 to $3000. Sounds mainstream to you?</p>
<p>Perhaps NASA was thinking the best way to bring 3D images to the masses, was simply the easiest to implement&#8211;anaglyph. Works on any monitor, and all you need is the glasses, which you can make yourself or get with a $5 children&#039;s 3-D book. </p>
<p>Another way is to release the images as a cross-eyed pair, but I really doubt they wanted to give people like Ralph a headache.</p>
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		<title>By: FzFx</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26722</link>
		<dc:creator>FzFx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, do you have polarised glasses, and the other equipment required for it to view on a standard PC monitor? ... Or you got some holographic display at home? Can you imagine that there is free programs to make R-B images from any two normal pictures?
And did you know that those are maybe not normal made-in-china cameras, they cover more of the light spectrum, and the NASA has to correct the pictures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, do you have polarised glasses, and the other equipment required for it to view on a standard PC monitor? &#8230; Or you got some holographic display at home? Can you imagine that there is free programs to make R-B images from any two normal pictures?<br />
And did you know that those are maybe not normal made-in-china cameras, they cover more of the light spectrum, and the NASA has to correct the pictures?</p>
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		<title>By: benedict</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26624</link>
		<dc:creator>benedict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to ruin the mood guys, but to me this argument sounds childish. Why can&#039;t we just accept that each of us have different opinions on different matters! I do agree with each one of your opinions not that i&#039;m tring to be neutral or anything, its just that i&#039;m trying to be open minded and consider each one of our opinions as the possible truth and not just arguing about my own. I know that not &quot;everything I know&quot; and &quot;am sure of&quot; as the truth may or may not be true. The key here is open-mindedness. Why do you think is the cause of religious wars? ( I&#039;m so sorry for being so off topic I just couldn&#039;t help it!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry to ruin the mood guys, but to me this argument sounds childish. Why can&#039;t we just accept that each of us have different opinions on different matters! I do agree with each one of your opinions not that i&#039;m tring to be neutral or anything, its just that i&#039;m trying to be open minded and consider each one of our opinions as the possible truth and not just arguing about my own. I know that not &#034;everything I know&#034; and &#034;am sure of&#034; as the truth may or may not be true. The key here is open-mindedness. Why do you think is the cause of religious wars? ( I&#039;m so sorry for being so off topic I just couldn&#039;t help it!)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Eaton-Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26583</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Eaton-Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temper, temper. You&#039;ll blow a gasket. Dave actually sounds as though he&#039;s a sane person so perhaps he and I would get on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temper, temper. You&#039;ll blow a gasket. Dave actually sounds as though he&#039;s a sane person so perhaps he and I would get on.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Eaton-Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26573</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Eaton-Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Dave Finton. I too am heartily sick of the nit-pickers and conspiracy theorists that rock up here time after time. By all means point out to those of us who may be unaware of newer/better techniques but please stop your whingeing. Ralph et al merely sound like spoiled children who continually talk about how much better their bicycle/games/computer/toys are than yours while sticking out their tongues. One imagines them howling at their monitors in impotent rage. All rather silly really.
Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Dave Finton. I too am heartily sick of the nit-pickers and conspiracy theorists that rock up here time after time. By all means point out to those of us who may be unaware of newer/better techniques but please stop your whingeing. Ralph et al merely sound like spoiled children who continually talk about how much better their bicycle/games/computer/toys are than yours while sticking out their tongues. One imagines them howling at their monitors in impotent rage. All rather silly really.<br />
Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26564</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, you truly are full of bullshit.  Oh my...you have &quot;youtube&quot; evidence.  Go take that to the media!  If it&#039;s on youtube, it MUST be true, eh?  You&#039;ll be famous for finally showing incontrovertible proof that NASA is selling lies to the public.  I&#039;m sure the General Accounting Office would welcome such news.  I mean, as Congress&#039; accounting arm of wasteful government projects, they would probably blow a gasket if what you said was true. 

But you know why that won&#039;t ever happen Ralph?  It&#039;s because you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about and no evidence to back it up.  Your defensive posture and lack of any evidence just shows you for the bafoon you are, and I&#039;m totally with Dave on this.  I dare you to prove me wrong, WITH SOME REAL GODDAMN EVIDENCE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, you truly are full of bullshit.  Oh my&#8230;you have &#034;youtube&#034; evidence.  Go take that to the media!  If it&#039;s on youtube, it MUST be true, eh?  You&#039;ll be famous for finally showing incontrovertible proof that NASA is selling lies to the public.  I&#039;m sure the General Accounting Office would welcome such news.  I mean, as Congress&#039; accounting arm of wasteful government projects, they would probably blow a gasket if what you said was true. </p>
<p>But you know why that won&#039;t ever happen Ralph?  It&#039;s because you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about and no evidence to back it up.  Your defensive posture and lack of any evidence just shows you for the bafoon you are, and I&#039;m totally with Dave on this.  I dare you to prove me wrong, WITH SOME REAL GODDAMN EVIDENCE.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter K</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26546</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think of conspiracy, 
but I do wish Nasa would also present these as stereo pairs, so we could look at them in 3d like magic eye pictures (etc) 

it&#039;s not that hard to view and you don&#039;t have to hunt for red/green specs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think of conspiracy,<br />
but I do wish Nasa would also present these as stereo pairs, so we could look at them in 3d like magic eye pictures (etc) </p>
<p>it&#039;s not that hard to view and you don&#039;t have to hunt for red/green specs</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Rewes</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26533</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Rewes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS a sample of sloppy job by NASA, cutting and pasting in such an obvious sloppy job, that anyone, anyone, even an idiot can tell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kj_2bTy_k

My question is why do they do this?

I have no theory. I really do not know the reason. I cannot accept that highly trained professional do that as his everyday job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS a sample of sloppy job by NASA, cutting and pasting in such an obvious sloppy job, that anyone, anyone, even an idiot can tell.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kj_2bTy_k" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kj_2bTy_k</a></p>
<p>My question is why do they do this?</p>
<p>I have no theory. I really do not know the reason. I cannot accept that highly trained professional do that as his everyday job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Rewes</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26531</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Rewes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your are by yourself a rant. I am not pointing to conspiracy theories, but this NASA behavior feed them. You are so rigid that you cannot answer any of the question. Do you know how to read or you just pick up your dumb clichÃ©s at random?

You are putting words in my mouth. Be sensible instead of defensive, in fact, I guess you have nothing to do with this or ever will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your are by yourself a rant. I am not pointing to conspiracy theories, but this NASA behavior feed them. You are so rigid that you cannot answer any of the question. Do you know how to read or you just pick up your dumb clichÃ©s at random?</p>
<p>You are putting words in my mouth. Be sensible instead of defensive, in fact, I guess you have nothing to do with this or ever will.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Finton</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26508</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Finton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph Rewes, do you realize your &quot;argument&quot; amounts to a pointless rant that does not contribute to this or any discussion regarding the exploration of space and the extraterrestrial planets that happen to inhabit that area therein?

I am getting sick and god damned tired of listening of these sorts of conspiracy hypotheses.  I might just have to go back to ask the moderators on this forum to limit critical arguments against the Phoenix mission to the rational.  It is not reasonable to ask people like me to have to put up with sitting here, clicking on a link like this, and having to read posts after endless posts from those who have an axe to grind with no discernible reason for doing so.

Listening to folks like you is starting to be like having to put up with 9-11 &quot;truthers&quot; spamming those forums every time a video of a building demolition is posted on CNN.com or elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph Rewes, do you realize your &#034;argument&#034; amounts to a pointless rant that does not contribute to this or any discussion regarding the exploration of space and the extraterrestrial planets that happen to inhabit that area therein?</p>
<p>I am getting sick and god damned tired of listening of these sorts of conspiracy hypotheses.  I might just have to go back to ask the moderators on this forum to limit critical arguments against the Phoenix mission to the rational.  It is not reasonable to ask people like me to have to put up with sitting here, clicking on a link like this, and having to read posts after endless posts from those who have an axe to grind with no discernible reason for doing so.</p>
<p>Listening to folks like you is starting to be like having to put up with 9-11 &#034;truthers&#034; spamming those forums every time a video of a building demolition is posted on CNN.com or elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Rewes</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26485</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Rewes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not Phoenix hater. I am pissed by the stupid old, old methods they are using to give the public terrible quality pictures. I am sure, they do not use red-blue lenses to see their 3D photos.

These poor quality junky pictures the public gets are distorted, manipulated, and low, very low resolution of objects that are interesting and could heat up debate and speculation, not about their intentions, but about what is on the Martian surface. The questions are simply put, not emotional, but intellectual:
Why NASA do not give the general public clear, neat high resolution of strange objects on the surface?
Why NASA distort cut and poorly paste photo to hide objects?
Why NASA did reverse to negative the first important picture of the face before given to the public?
Why does NASA use obsolete 3D systems for the public?
Why does NASA change the colors of the Martian surface in almost every picture?
Why doesn&#039;t NASA come up with an explanation about the circles, wheels, boxes and other unusual shapes that cannot be regular rocks?
And there are many others.
I appreciate what their team is doing, I don&#039;t hate what they are doing. I am puzzled by some stupid, apparently, things they do as the ones listed before. And I wonder why it is so obvious that they are doing these sloppy jobs.
C&#039;mon please, the world is full with supercomputers and excellent enhancing programs.
Red-blue 3D... pleeeeez!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not Phoenix hater. I am pissed by the stupid old, old methods they are using to give the public terrible quality pictures. I am sure, they do not use red-blue lenses to see their 3D photos.</p>
<p>These poor quality junky pictures the public gets are distorted, manipulated, and low, very low resolution of objects that are interesting and could heat up debate and speculation, not about their intentions, but about what is on the Martian surface. The questions are simply put, not emotional, but intellectual:<br />
Why NASA do not give the general public clear, neat high resolution of strange objects on the surface?<br />
Why NASA distort cut and poorly paste photo to hide objects?<br />
Why NASA did reverse to negative the first important picture of the face before given to the public?<br />
Why does NASA use obsolete 3D systems for the public?<br />
Why does NASA change the colors of the Martian surface in almost every picture?<br />
Why doesn&#039;t NASA come up with an explanation about the circles, wheels, boxes and other unusual shapes that cannot be regular rocks?<br />
And there are many others.<br />
I appreciate what their team is doing, I don&#039;t hate what they are doing. I am puzzled by some stupid, apparently, things they do as the ones listed before. And I wonder why it is so obvious that they are doing these sloppy jobs.<br />
C&#039;mon please, the world is full with supercomputers and excellent enhancing programs.<br />
Red-blue 3D&#8230; pleeeeez!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Finton</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26466</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Finton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Phoenix haters march on in their endless quest to spew bile on every aspect of the mission, no matter how trivial or awesome.

Sheesh, people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Phoenix haters march on in their endless quest to spew bile on every aspect of the mission, no matter how trivial or awesome.</p>
<p>Sheesh, people!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Rewes</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26460</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Rewes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The View Master system, now considered a toy only, is ten times better than what NASA uses. And there is no need for glasses and the viewer shows perfect colored 3D images in wheels NASA could sell -- if they really want people to clearly see what is on the Martian surface.

Otherwise, again, these red-blue images are useless junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The View Master system, now considered a toy only, is ten times better than what NASA uses. And there is no need for glasses and the viewer shows perfect colored 3D images in wheels NASA could sell &#8212; if they really want people to clearly see what is on the Martian surface.</p>
<p>Otherwise, again, these red-blue images are useless junk.</p>
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		<title>By: Deja View</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26453</link>
		<dc:creator>Deja View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when is NASA going to offer free 3D glasses in every box of Wheaties or Cheerios or maybe its own Space Explorer&#039;s Mars Mission cereal? In fact, when do we start seeing action model Phoenix landers, and Spiit and Opportunity models, and comic books and action figures, etc., etc. The marketing potential might even provide a desperately needed boost to NASA&#039;a budget.  And you KNOW that ESA or the Japanese or Disney are going to be doing it.  Let&#039;s get started now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when is NASA going to offer free 3D glasses in every box of Wheaties or Cheerios or maybe its own Space Explorer&#039;s Mars Mission cereal? In fact, when do we start seeing action model Phoenix landers, and Spiit and Opportunity models, and comic books and action figures, etc., etc. The marketing potential might even provide a desperately needed boost to NASA&#039;a budget.  And you KNOW that ESA or the Japanese or Disney are going to be doing it.  Let&#039;s get started now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RetardedFishFrog</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26436</link>
		<dc:creator>RetardedFishFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last rock looks like a fossilized Martian fishfrog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last rock looks like a fossilized Martian fishfrog.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Rewes</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/18/mars-arctic-in-3d-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-26428</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Rewes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another question for NASA.

Have they seen JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH in digital 3D?

Anything is better than the old, old red and blue system they use.

Has anybody ever told them that there are other better systems for clearer pictures, including polarized glasses?

These blue red pictures are junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question for NASA.</p>
<p>Have they seen JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH in digital 3D?</p>
<p>Anything is better than the old, old red and blue system they use.</p>
<p>Has anybody ever told them that there are other better systems for clearer pictures, including polarized glasses?</p>
<p>These blue red pictures are junk.</p>
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