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	<title>Comments on: Griffin: China Could Beat US in Moon Race</title>
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		<title>By: bdiego</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-48141</link>
		<dc:creator>bdiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griffin is intent on wasting taxpayer dollars on a drawn out effort to re-reach the moon. NASA should never have dropped its plans to visit Mars so it can make a redundant publicity run for the moon.  He&#039;s also spent taxpayer money to publish a book of his own speeches.

China WILL beat us to the moon in a new moon race, thanks to Griffin.  Ironic.

Griffin has politicized NASA and dodges accountability as his inexplicable outbursts this year have shown. The bottom line is Griffin doesn’t understand that he works for America, not the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griffin is intent on wasting taxpayer dollars on a drawn out effort to re-reach the moon. NASA should never have dropped its plans to visit Mars so it can make a redundant publicity run for the moon.  He&#039;s also spent taxpayer money to publish a book of his own speeches.</p>
<p>China WILL beat us to the moon in a new moon race, thanks to Griffin.  Ironic.</p>
<p>Griffin has politicized NASA and dodges accountability as his inexplicable outbursts this year have shown. The bottom line is Griffin doesn’t understand that he works for America, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-37115</link>
		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if some important substance is discovered on the moon, what will we do if china says &quot;I got here first and the moon is china&#039;s!&quot;  what then?     maybe international agreements need to be made in advance now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if some important substance is discovered on the moon, what will we do if china says &#034;I got here first and the moon is china&#039;s!&#034;  what then?     maybe international agreements need to be made in advance now!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-27190</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares if China, Russia or any other nation sets up shop there first?  
Hmmm...me thinks we are not considering the strategic implications; remember the Cuban missile crises?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares if China, Russia or any other nation sets up shop there first?<br />
Hmmm&#8230;me thinks we are not considering the strategic implications; remember the Cuban missile crises?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck R.</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-27168</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike Says: &quot;I&#039;m sorry but I fail to see how China landing on the moon 40+ years after America is a race.&quot;


We&#039;re, urm, pushing to LAP them?


ba&#039;dum, ching!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike Says: &#034;I&#039;m sorry but I fail to see how China landing on the moon 40+ years after America is a race.&#034;</p>
<p>We&#039;re, urm, pushing to LAP them?</p>
<p>ba&#039;dum, ching!</p>
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		<title>By: dollhopf</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26593</link>
		<dc:creator>dollhopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If China gets there before we do again, so be it, let them waste their resources.&quot;

How to distinguish between  &quot;their resources&quot; and  &quot;our resources&quot;? America&#039;s economy  sells 700 billion dollars each year to import over 70 % of the oil it consumes.

So says T. Boone Pickens in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bOug1d20c
4 % of the world population consumes 25 % of it&#039;s energy. 

That&#039;s enough spending, enough even to settle on Pluto.

You say &quot;I am opposed to the US spending my money to go to the moon.&quot;

I agree. Better spend your money on driving a SUV which consumes 25 liters of fuel per 100 km from the shopping mall round the corner back to your living room.  (which seem to be basic US interests) And don&#039;t forget to let your engine running outside during shopping </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;If China gets there before we do again, so be it, let them waste their resources.&#034;</p>
<p>How to distinguish between  &#034;their resources&#034; and  &#034;our resources&#034;? America&#039;s economy  sells 700 billion dollars each year to import over 70 % of the oil it consumes.</p>
<p>So says T. Boone Pickens in<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bOug1d20c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bOug1d20c</a><br />
4 % of the world population consumes 25 % of it&#039;s energy. </p>
<p>That&#039;s enough spending, enough even to settle on Pluto.</p>
<p>You say &#034;I am opposed to the US spending my money to go to the moon.&#034;</p>
<p>I agree. Better spend your money on driving a SUV which consumes 25 liters of fuel per 100 km from the shopping mall round the corner back to your living room.  (which seem to be basic US interests) And don&#039;t forget to let your engine running outside during shopping</p>
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		<title>By: LM</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26554</link>
		<dc:creator>LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am opposed to the US spending my money to go to the moon. If China gets there before we do again, so be it, let them waste their resources.

I agree with having NASA to protect US interests in space and putting payloads, like satelites, into orbit.

But, with today&#039;s rockets and equipment, going to the moon &amp; beyond does not make sense. It costs to much and there is no return on the investment. The same argument applies to going to Mars.

Maybe if NASA invented a new low cost propulsion system, it might make sense. But not now.

I am a US citizen who opposes the wasteful spending in the federal, state, and local governments. We could probably do better if ~2/3&#039;s of the spending was eliminated.

Vernon Hills, Illinios USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am opposed to the US spending my money to go to the moon. If China gets there before we do again, so be it, let them waste their resources.</p>
<p>I agree with having NASA to protect US interests in space and putting payloads, like satelites, into orbit.</p>
<p>But, with today&#039;s rockets and equipment, going to the moon &amp; beyond does not make sense. It costs to much and there is no return on the investment. The same argument applies to going to Mars.</p>
<p>Maybe if NASA invented a new low cost propulsion system, it might make sense. But not now.</p>
<p>I am a US citizen who opposes the wasteful spending in the federal, state, and local governments. We could probably do better if ~2/3&#039;s of the spending was eliminated.</p>
<p>Vernon Hills, Illinios USA</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26500</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but I fail to see how China landing on the moon 40+ years after America is a race.</description>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26459</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will never forget the slaughter that happened after the protests at the Gate of Heavenly Peace in 1989 and I am no friend of the oppressors of the Chinese people who rule with fists of irons. But the space race is over. It was so much nonsense, a Great Distraction. It would be insane to start it up again.

In space exploration, I wish all nations well and Godspeed. There is room in space for us all. I would prefer it was a coordinated international effort, somewhat like the ISS but with the way the present regime has stained the reputation of the U.S., I understand that can be impossible. But no more &quot;space races&quot;. This mad competitiveness will be our undoing as a species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never forget the slaughter that happened after the protests at the Gate of Heavenly Peace in 1989 and I am no friend of the oppressors of the Chinese people who rule with fists of irons. But the space race is over. It was so much nonsense, a Great Distraction. It would be insane to start it up again.</p>
<p>In space exploration, I wish all nations well and Godspeed. There is room in space for us all. I would prefer it was a coordinated international effort, somewhat like the ISS but with the way the present regime has stained the reputation of the U.S., I understand that can be impossible. But no more &#034;space races&#034;. This mad competitiveness will be our undoing as a species.</p>
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		<title>By: hiro</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26411</link>
		<dc:creator>hiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moon race is the past. Now we should focus on the Mars race and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moon race is the past. Now we should focus on the Mars race and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: dollhopf</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26307</link>
		<dc:creator>dollhopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holla Realista, don&#039;t talk to anybody about this!

If you should ever get bored by your highly elaborated conspiracy theory about men on the moon, then look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEueJnsu80</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holla Realista, don&#039;t talk to anybody about this!</p>
<p>If you should ever get bored by your highly elaborated conspiracy theory about men on the moon, then look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEueJnsu80" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEueJnsu80</a></p>
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		<title>By: dollhopf</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26289</link>
		<dc:creator>dollhopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huron proposed:
July 15th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

&quot;Perhaps the US could make it to the Moon quicker if they asked the Europeans to shoulder some of the costs?&quot; 

Forget it. The German minister of economic affairs Michael Glos (CSU) just canceled the German Lunar Exploration Orbiter (LEO). 

www.universetoday.com/2007/08/21/details-on-germanys-lunar-exploration-orbiter/


The costs of the mission are now assigned to his home federal state Bavaria and will be used to extend the Center for Automation and Robotics in Oberpfaffenhofen, where also the German Aerospace Organization DLR is located. They have election campaign times in Bavaria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huron proposed:<br />
July 15th, 2008 at 8:56 pm</p>
<p>&#034;Perhaps the US could make it to the Moon quicker if they asked the Europeans to shoulder some of the costs?&#034; </p>
<p>Forget it. The German minister of economic affairs Michael Glos (CSU) just canceled the German Lunar Exploration Orbiter (LEO). </p>
<p><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2007/08/21/details-on-germanys-lunar-exploration-orbiter/" rel="nofollow">http://www.universetoday.com/2007/08/21/details-on-germanys-lunar-exploration-orbiter/</a></p>
<p>The costs of the mission are now assigned to his home federal state Bavaria and will be used to extend the Center for Automation and Robotics in Oberpfaffenhofen, where also the German Aerospace Organization DLR is located. They have election campaign times in Bavaria.</p>
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		<title>By: DCTECHGUY</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26274</link>
		<dc:creator>DCTECHGUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Startup the Russian Energia production line again and we could be there in a handful of years.  Cancelling the SaturnV in favor of the shuttle was truly one of the great tragedies of the 20th century -- there were SO MANY plans for upgrades, thrust augmentation with SRBs, stretching, we had already invented the whole smash.  Thank you Richard M. Nixon, who wanted to erase Kennedy&#039;s legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Startup the Russian Energia production line again and we could be there in a handful of years.  Cancelling the SaturnV in favor of the shuttle was truly one of the great tragedies of the 20th century &#8212; there were SO MANY plans for upgrades, thrust augmentation with SRBs, stretching, we had already invented the whole smash.  Thank you Richard M. Nixon, who wanted to erase Kennedy&#039;s legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: MaDeR</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26267</link>
		<dc:creator>MaDeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in every discussion on return to moon will ALWAYS appear some crackpot idiot with claim that we never been on moon?

Yeah, this is rhetoric question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in every discussion on return to moon will ALWAYS appear some crackpot idiot with claim that we never been on moon?</p>
<p>Yeah, this is rhetoric question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KC Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26262</link>
		<dc:creator>KC Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just a technology advancement for countries to practise landing on moon. Whether it is 40 years or 60 years later, there will be a third and fourth country starting to follow landing humans on moon.It is not a race.Moon is just a space technology starting point. What I would like to see is that dont ever damage the moon as what we all have done on earth.History tells us that humans will only cooperate, during emergency needs. Thats humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just a technology advancement for countries to practise landing on moon. Whether it is 40 years or 60 years later, there will be a third and fourth country starting to follow landing humans on moon.It is not a race.Moon is just a space technology starting point. What I would like to see is that dont ever damage the moon as what we all have done on earth.History tells us that humans will only cooperate, during emergency needs. Thats humans.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26181</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how they can beat us, we beat them by 60 years....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know how they can beat us, we beat them by 60 years&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Realista</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-2/#comment-26175</link>
		<dc:creator>Realista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have never been on the Moon.

Hollywood filmed Apollo missions and &quot;landing&quot; on the Moon during the late &#039;60 and early &#039;70 in the last century.

BUT THE CRUEL REALITY IS - WE HAVE NEVER VISITED THE MOON, THE MAN NEVER LANDED ON THE MOON!

I would opt for Chinese to be first to send man on the Moon, although I&#039;m an american citizen. Because I&#039;m fed up with criminal, anti-democratic, anti-human politics of the U.S. goverment, full of liars, corrupted politicians, bankers mafia.

China go go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have never been on the Moon.</p>
<p>Hollywood filmed Apollo missions and &#034;landing&#034; on the Moon during the late &#039;60 and early &#039;70 in the last century.</p>
<p>BUT THE CRUEL REALITY IS &#8211; WE HAVE NEVER VISITED THE MOON, THE MAN NEVER LANDED ON THE MOON!</p>
<p>I would opt for Chinese to be first to send man on the Moon, although I&#039;m an american citizen. Because I&#039;m fed up with criminal, anti-democratic, anti-human politics of the U.S. goverment, full of liars, corrupted politicians, bankers mafia.</p>
<p>China go go!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-1/#comment-26171</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is awesome. Hopefully this will inspire a new space race that will push NASA to not just return to the moon but to push newer and bigger projects forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is awesome. Hopefully this will inspire a new space race that will push NASA to not just return to the moon but to push newer and bigger projects forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Lipka</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/15/griffin-china-could-beat-us-in-moon-race/comment-page-1/#comment-26166</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Lipka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well thak you Bill Clinton and Loral Space for letting the Reds get hold of our missile technology!  See what it has produced? Before &#039;the accident&quot; they could not hit the broad side of a barn with a nuke nor could they threaten the mid-eastern US. A few campaign donations later  and not only has that problem been rectified thay are targeting men on the moon before us!

And to hell with the notion of &quot;cooperating&quot; with them or citing  our &quot;cooperation&quot; with the Soviets.  Remember, that  cooperation only came about AFTER they were roundly beaten in the race to the moon, during the Skylab  era and not before. Furthermore, that was foisted upn NASA at the expense of Apollos 18, 19, &amp; 20. Stupid politicians!

The Chicoms need to be similarly beaten in getting back to the moon (and at any other level of competition) as well. Then let them cooperate with us (the US). The renewed space race would prove to be a boon to the economy as well as for jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thak you Bill Clinton and Loral Space for letting the Reds get hold of our missile technology!  See what it has produced? Before &#039;the accident&#034; they could not hit the broad side of a barn with a nuke nor could they threaten the mid-eastern US. A few campaign donations later  and not only has that problem been rectified thay are targeting men on the moon before us!</p>
<p>And to hell with the notion of &#034;cooperating&#034; with them or citing  our &#034;cooperation&#034; with the Soviets.  Remember, that  cooperation only came about AFTER they were roundly beaten in the race to the moon, during the Skylab  era and not before. Furthermore, that was foisted upn NASA at the expense of Apollos 18, 19, &amp; 20. Stupid politicians!</p>
<p>The Chicoms need to be similarly beaten in getting back to the moon (and at any other level of competition) as well. Then let them cooperate with us (the US). The renewed space race would prove to be a boon to the economy as well as for jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is misleading.  The US has already been to the moon.  The year was 1969.  If China makes it to the moon in a decade, they will have landed ~40 years later.
The US is not in a race.  When there was a race, the US did it, start to finish in 8 years.  But why not wait until the Orion project is ready, rather than building everything faster (ie less safe).
So the corrected article title is: Griffin: China Could Be 2nd in Moon Race
The accomplishment in itself is admirable.  I truly wish the US would stop nosing around with enforcing law on others and spend the money on scientific endeavors.  Heck, sometimes I wish the US would stop giving free foriegn aid away and instead spend it at home, but helping out others is a good thing in most instances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is misleading.  The US has already been to the moon.  The year was 1969.  If China makes it to the moon in a decade, they will have landed ~40 years later.<br />
The US is not in a race.  When there was a race, the US did it, start to finish in 8 years.  But why not wait until the Orion project is ready, rather than building everything faster (ie less safe).<br />
So the corrected article title is: Griffin: China Could Be 2nd in Moon Race<br />
The accomplishment in itself is admirable.  I truly wish the US would stop nosing around with enforcing law on others and spend the money on scientific endeavors.  Heck, sometimes I wish the US would stop giving free foriegn aid away and instead spend it at home, but helping out others is a good thing in most instances.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonora Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonora Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole thing seems like a flashback to the psychological race to the moon.  &quot;Who will get there first&quot; was the question masking the real question, &quot;Who will make bigger missles that can kill more people.&quot;  To continue this business of assigning competition to explore space ignores the fundamental point that space exploration ultimately is a human endeavor shared by everyone.  That China is threatening the USA&#039;s psyche is a further commentary on a changing global situation where we must learn to share limited resources.  Knowledge seems to fit the bill as a limited resource.  Not everyone has the same amounts of it due to economics.  So why don&#039;t we figure out some common ground and learn more about space?  

So yeah, Byron, &quot;Space exploration is education. Education of the finest degree in science, research, mechanics, theory.&quot;  I just missed the point where NASA has the corner on the market of something that is of the finest degree.  If it&#039;s of the finest degree, of the first order, then it ranks up there with say, everyone having enough food, good health, quality of life.  So we out to figure out a way for everyone to share in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing seems like a flashback to the psychological race to the moon.  &#034;Who will get there first&#034; was the question masking the real question, &#034;Who will make bigger missles that can kill more people.&#034;  To continue this business of assigning competition to explore space ignores the fundamental point that space exploration ultimately is a human endeavor shared by everyone.  That China is threatening the USA&#039;s psyche is a further commentary on a changing global situation where we must learn to share limited resources.  Knowledge seems to fit the bill as a limited resource.  Not everyone has the same amounts of it due to economics.  So why don&#039;t we figure out some common ground and learn more about space?  </p>
<p>So yeah, Byron, &#034;Space exploration is education. Education of the finest degree in science, research, mechanics, theory.&#034;  I just missed the point where NASA has the corner on the market of something that is of the finest degree.  If it&#039;s of the finest degree, of the first order, then it ranks up there with say, everyone having enough food, good health, quality of life.  So we out to figure out a way for everyone to share in it.</p>
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		<title>By: von Dawson's Express</title>
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		<dc:creator>von Dawson's Express</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go China Go and good luck - I hope they do and show up all these so called technological countries. The UK gave up spaceflight years ago, the US just fanny about and the Russians are just chucking it all away and as for Europe.
I want to see real exploration and real spacecraft and a real space race.
The Chinese could have gone to the moon in the 16th Century if they had not turned there back on the world in the 1490&#039;s, They will make up for lost ground.
It will serve the US right if China gets there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go China Go and good luck &#8211; I hope they do and show up all these so called technological countries. The UK gave up spaceflight years ago, the US just fanny about and the Russians are just chucking it all away and as for Europe.<br />
I want to see real exploration and real spacecraft and a real space race.<br />
The Chinese could have gone to the moon in the 16th Century if they had not turned there back on the world in the 1490&#039;s, They will make up for lost ground.<br />
It will serve the US right if China gets there.</p>
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		<title>By: byron</title>
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		<dc:creator>byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave

Space exploration is education.  Education of the finest degree in science, research, mechanics, theory.  Nasa creates jobs, it teaches people and most importantly it inspires people.  That is what humanity is about. The ability to dream and the ability to inspire.  The basics are always important but we shouldn&#039;t limit ourselves to the basic struggles of living day to day but instead give people hope, dreams and inspiration to push the boundaries of humanity beyond our pale blue dot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave</p>
<p>Space exploration is education.  Education of the finest degree in science, research, mechanics, theory.  Nasa creates jobs, it teaches people and most importantly it inspires people.  That is what humanity is about. The ability to dream and the ability to inspire.  The basics are always important but we shouldn&#039;t limit ourselves to the basic struggles of living day to day but instead give people hope, dreams and inspiration to push the boundaries of humanity beyond our pale blue dot.</p>
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		<title>By: EdF</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what race?  i haven&#039;t heard we&#039;re racing China to the moon.  First, we&#039;ve been there already.  Second, don&#039;t think the general public has been told we&#039;re trying to beat the Chinese to the moon.  

In the US we have a war on two fronts, a presidential election, a stagnant economy, high fuel prices and a push towards being green.  If I were the president, I would raise NASA&#039;s budget 10x, but in reality, our space presence isn&#039;t even close to being on the radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what race?  i haven&#039;t heard we&#039;re racing China to the moon.  First, we&#039;ve been there already.  Second, don&#039;t think the general public has been told we&#039;re trying to beat the Chinese to the moon.  </p>
<p>In the US we have a war on two fronts, a presidential election, a stagnant economy, high fuel prices and a push towards being green.  If I were the president, I would raise NASA&#039;s budget 10x, but in reality, our space presence isn&#039;t even close to being on the radar.</p>
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		<title>By: unlimited_pastries</title>
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		<dc:creator>unlimited_pastries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats commie talk, Dave S.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The space race is over.  Who cares if China goes to the moon?  Setting up a camp on the moon for a few people to hunker down in is a waste of money.  

The talk of sending people out to protect our species from some killer asteroid is nonsense.  Without an atmosphere to protect them, the people sent to the moon will be subject to much higher risks of death from meteor impact.   Or maybe we should have them dig some really deep hole on this dead body in space and exist in there.  There&#039;s a nice thought.  They could send someone out periodically to pick up the supplies we send them.

What ever beings are left on the Earth in 4 billion years when the sun bloats will hardly be human.  Let&#039;s worry about feeding, providing clean water, housing, educating, providing health care and education to the humans who are trying to live now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The space race is over.  Who cares if China goes to the moon?  Setting up a camp on the moon for a few people to hunker down in is a waste of money.  </p>
<p>The talk of sending people out to protect our species from some killer asteroid is nonsense.  Without an atmosphere to protect them, the people sent to the moon will be subject to much higher risks of death from meteor impact.   Or maybe we should have them dig some really deep hole on this dead body in space and exist in there.  There&#039;s a nice thought.  They could send someone out periodically to pick up the supplies we send them.</p>
<p>What ever beings are left on the Earth in 4 billion years when the sun bloats will hardly be human.  Let&#039;s worry about feeding, providing clean water, housing, educating, providing health care and education to the humans who are trying to live now.</p>
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