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	<title>Comments on: NGC 6302 by Don Goldman</title>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/23/ngc-6302-by-don-goldman/comment-page-1/#comment-24439</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree!!  To me, the ultimate treat is learning about objects like NGC 6302 and when I find them in my telescope, I can sit for hours just looking at it - and the starry sky - and reflecting on what I&#039;ve learned.

There are even nights when I will just look at a constellation and think about all the magnificent things which lay in its direction.  Who needs TV?  The greatest show in the cosmos is right outside...  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree!!  To me, the ultimate treat is learning about objects like NGC 6302 and when I find them in my telescope, I can sit for hours just looking at it &#8211; and the starry sky &#8211; and reflecting on what I&#039;ve learned.</p>
<p>There are even nights when I will just look at a constellation and think about all the magnificent things which lay in its direction.  Who needs TV?  The greatest show in the cosmos is right outside&#8230;  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aodhhan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/23/ngc-6302-by-don-goldman/comment-page-1/#comment-24425</link>
		<dc:creator>Aodhhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it helps a lot. Although, it doesn&#039;t give a lot of information, the fact the torus is made of interesting material compared to the core gives some hope there was something containing all these elements in the area before all heck broke loose. I like hearing there are two distinct compositions of dust as well.
What a great time to be alive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it helps a lot. Although, it doesn&#039;t give a lot of information, the fact the torus is made of interesting material compared to the core gives some hope there was something containing all these elements in the area before all heck broke loose. I like hearing there are two distinct compositions of dust as well.<br />
What a great time to be alive!</p>
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		<title>By: A person</title>
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		<dc:creator>A person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds interesting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds interesting</p>
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		<title>By: stuwat</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/23/ngc-6302-by-don-goldman/comment-page-1/#comment-24389</link>
		<dc:creator>stuwat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can almost imagine this image being viewed from the bridge of the original Starship Enterprise, while Spock raises an eyebrow and remarks &quot;fascinating&quot;.

Great photo Don!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can almost imagine this image being viewed from the bridge of the original Starship Enterprise, while Spock raises an eyebrow and remarks &#034;fascinating&#034;.</p>
<p>Great photo Don!</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/23/ngc-6302-by-don-goldman/comment-page-1/#comment-24388</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, RL... Good question.

According to Minkowski&#039;s observations, NGC 6302 &quot;exhibits a wide range of excitation and ionization conditions, and is expanding in a manner suggestiong an explosive origin.&quot;  This was done at optical wavelengths.  Even with photoelectric observations, it&#039;s still not clear what&#039;s driving the expansion &quot;with mass motions that must yet be explained.&quot;

As for Aodhhan&#039;s question:

According to the work of Matsuura, Aijlstra, Molster and Waters: &quot;The butterfly-shaped planetary nebula, NGC 6302, shows a unique, dense equatorial dark lane, which is presumably a dusty disc, obscuring an unobserved, very hot central star. We trace the structure of this disc using Hubble Space Telescope HÎ± and [Nii] images, Very Large Telescope L-and M-band images at 0.4-arcsec resolution, including BrÎ± and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon (PAH) images, and a James Clerk Maxwell Telescope 450-Î¼m image. Extinction maps are derived from these images. Within the disc, the extinction is AHÎ±= 5â€“7 mag and ABrÎ±= 1â€“2 mag . The 450-Î¼m map shows a northâ€“south elongated central core, tracing the massive dust disc, and extended emission from dust in the bipolar flows. A fit to the spectral energy distribution yields the disc dust mass of 0.03 MâŠ™ . The innermost region shows an ionized shell. The orientation of the polar axis shows a marked change between shell, disc and inner and outer outflow. The structures are well described by the warped-disc model of Icke (2003). PAH images are presented: PAH emission is found in the shell but avoids the disc. An infrared source is found close to the expected location of the central star.&quot;

I know that&#039;s doesn&#039;t precisely answer your question - but the truth is, science doesn&#039;t precisely know what&#039;s going on either!  The most recent is from Kemper, Molster, Jager and Waters:

&quot;We have analysed the full ISO spectrum of the planetary nebula NGC 6302 in order to derive the mineralogical composition of the dust in the nebula. We use an optically thin dust model in combination with laboratory measurements of cosmic dust analogues. We find two main temperature components at about 100 and 50 K respectively, with distinctly different dust compositions. The warm component contains an important contribution from dust without strong infrared resonances. In particular the presence of small warm amorphous silicate grains can be excluded. The detection of weak PAH bands also points to a peculiar chemical composition of the dust in this oxygen-rich nebula. The cool dust component contains the bulk of the mass and shows strong emission from crystalline silicates, which contain about 10 percent of the mass. In addition, we identify the 92 Î¼m band with the mineral calcite, and argue that the 60 Î¼m band contains a contribution from the carbonate dolomite. We present the mass absorption coefficients of six different carbonate minerals. The geometry of the dust shell around NGC 6302 is studied with mid-infrared images obtained with TIMMI2. We argue that the cool dust component is present in a circumstellar dust torus, while the diffuse emission from the warm component originates from the lobes.&quot;

But your suggestion sure sounds logical...  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, RL&#8230; Good question.</p>
<p>According to Minkowski&#039;s observations, NGC 6302 &#034;exhibits a wide range of excitation and ionization conditions, and is expanding in a manner suggestiong an explosive origin.&#034;  This was done at optical wavelengths.  Even with photoelectric observations, it&#039;s still not clear what&#039;s driving the expansion &#034;with mass motions that must yet be explained.&#034;</p>
<p>As for Aodhhan&#039;s question:</p>
<p>According to the work of Matsuura, Aijlstra, Molster and Waters: &#034;The butterfly-shaped planetary nebula, NGC 6302, shows a unique, dense equatorial dark lane, which is presumably a dusty disc, obscuring an unobserved, very hot central star. We trace the structure of this disc using Hubble Space Telescope HÎ± and [Nii] images, Very Large Telescope L-and M-band images at 0.4-arcsec resolution, including BrÎ± and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon (PAH) images, and a James Clerk Maxwell Telescope 450-Î¼m image. Extinction maps are derived from these images. Within the disc, the extinction is AHÎ±= 5â€“7 mag and ABrÎ±= 1â€“2 mag . The 450-Î¼m map shows a northâ€“south elongated central core, tracing the massive dust disc, and extended emission from dust in the bipolar flows. A fit to the spectral energy distribution yields the disc dust mass of 0.03 MâŠ™ . The innermost region shows an ionized shell. The orientation of the polar axis shows a marked change between shell, disc and inner and outer outflow. The structures are well described by the warped-disc model of Icke (2003). PAH images are presented: PAH emission is found in the shell but avoids the disc. An infrared source is found close to the expected location of the central star.&#034;</p>
<p>I know that&#039;s doesn&#039;t precisely answer your question &#8211; but the truth is, science doesn&#039;t precisely know what&#039;s going on either!  The most recent is from Kemper, Molster, Jager and Waters:</p>
<p>&#034;We have analysed the full ISO spectrum of the planetary nebula NGC 6302 in order to derive the mineralogical composition of the dust in the nebula. We use an optically thin dust model in combination with laboratory measurements of cosmic dust analogues. We find two main temperature components at about 100 and 50 K respectively, with distinctly different dust compositions. The warm component contains an important contribution from dust without strong infrared resonances. In particular the presence of small warm amorphous silicate grains can be excluded. The detection of weak PAH bands also points to a peculiar chemical composition of the dust in this oxygen-rich nebula. The cool dust component contains the bulk of the mass and shows strong emission from crystalline silicates, which contain about 10 percent of the mass. In addition, we identify the 92 Î¼m band with the mineral calcite, and argue that the 60 Î¼m band contains a contribution from the carbonate dolomite. We present the mass absorption coefficients of six different carbonate minerals. The geometry of the dust shell around NGC 6302 is studied with mid-infrared images obtained with TIMMI2. We argue that the cool dust component is present in a circumstellar dust torus, while the diffuse emission from the warm component originates from the lobes.&#034;</p>
<p>But your suggestion sure sounds logical&#8230;  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aodhhan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/23/ngc-6302-by-don-goldman/comment-page-1/#comment-24384</link>
		<dc:creator>Aodhhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the reports state the approximate total volume of all the material? Is it possible some of the material came from 1 or 2 large &quot;earth&quot; type planets (or planets with a lot of water with vegitation) which were caught up in the raveges of the dying star?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the reports state the approximate total volume of all the material? Is it possible some of the material came from 1 or 2 large &#034;earth&#034; type planets (or planets with a lot of water with vegitation) which were caught up in the raveges of the dying star?</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first reaction (and made verbally) when I saw this photo was &quot;Whoa!&quot;

How do they know that this is the results of an explosion?  Can you tell by the spectral lines (indicating what elements are possessed) that it was an explosion or is it something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction (and made verbally) when I saw this photo was &#034;Whoa!&#034;</p>
<p>How do they know that this is the results of an explosion?  Can you tell by the spectral lines (indicating what elements are possessed) that it was an explosion or is it something else?</p>
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		<title>By: IKE:) the Alien lifeform</title>
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		<dc:creator>IKE:) the Alien lifeform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An extremely intriguing nebula, and just around the block. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An extremely intriguing nebula, and just around the block. <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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