Comments on: Newsflash: The LHC Won't Punch a Hole in the Earth After All…

By: Piyush

Piyush — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:06:41 +0000

ants,
Do you know chances of 0.001% of black hole means 100% chances of end of you and me and all the planet? There is no mathematics or physics working there. There is a math of yes or know, when even scientist don't know what will going to happen.
Everything is on guessing. I also guess. Are you able to guess more then do it. May be that will be true. I am guessing even they will not be able to finish this experiment. Now what? I don't understand why they spend to much on this experiment. They want to prove that there is no God? After they have received lot of information from Hubble telescope even though they are not ready to accept that there is the supreme power who is governing all this? I am scared that there will be a terrible result of this experiment. This is wastage of energy and money. They find out global warming problems and now they are increasing pollution by this experiment to increase global worming. Science is stupid and scientist are making us stupid.

By: ants

ants — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:41:53 +0000

oh dear, go to school Piyush before you make up crap.

By: Piyush

Piyush — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:01:55 +0000

Something elase:

If there are 33.33% chances of producing something else. then what is that?
If you brake proton then it will brake in to two small element of proton or it will move to the another world or it will convert in to energy.

Possibility :

1) Those two element of proton will be electrons
2) It will convert into energy like e = m* square of C
m = mass, c = velocity of light, e = energy.
3) It may convert in to unbearable sound which as exactly the same was generated at the time of Big Bang
4) Proton will convert in to invisible mass
5) Proton will drop in to another world from this world. We will not able to see anything
6) Proton will drop in to another world from this world. We will able to see unsteady blackhole
7) Proton will drop in to another world from this world. We will able to see steady black hole
Proton will drop in to another world from this world. We will not able to notice steady / unsteady black hole even though it is generated.
9) Proton will merge in each other and generate big proton.

By: Piyush

Piyush — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:40:19 +0000

manhole = black hole in above. I said it manhole intentionally because it may becomes tomorrow's manhole to enter to another world.

By: Piyush

Piyush — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:38:32 +0000

zero output of LHC:

If they find out nothing then:

1)It will prove that there was a unsteady black hole which already penetrate thorough the earth, that science was not able to trap. It will create micro hole in the earth, nobody will be able to notice. It will generate more earthquakes and hurricanes on the earth, no stable weather on the earth. It will increase the gravity of earth. All airplanes need to be redesign. The gravity will increase day by day. We will feel heavy. We will not be able to bare our own weight.
2) Second chance is : The proton had made a puncture and jumped into another world and Hawking radiation will seal the puncture. (black hole)

By: Piyush

Piyush — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:26:37 +0000

Output of LHC is unsteady manhole:

How they will prove that it was unsteady manhole?

By: Piyush

Piyush — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:22:54 +0000

LHC will not generate a Black hole:

If suppose we assume that output of the LHC is not a black hole then. Even science don't know the output that means 33.33% chance of steady black hole, 33.33% chance of unsteady black hole and 33.33% chances of something else.
Why court have permitted this experiment even though for 33.33%?

By: Piyush

Piyush — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:16:30 +0000

Microscopic Black hole:
If LHC will generate microscopic black hole then there are three possibilities.
1. Scientist will able to trap it.
2. Scientist will not be able to trap it but they can see it.
If they can not trap it then it will be penetrating through the earth. If there is microscopic black hole in the center of the earth already present then LHC black hole will merge with that black hole. If presently there is no black hole in the center of the earth then?
This black hole will straight go to the center of the earth and will start eating mass of the earth to generate light and may take years to transform earth in to a star like the sun.
They can not see the LHC Black hole then after few years some one will find out that the earth is also producing light like the sun.
The space is a huge bed sheet of time. If LHC will puncture in this bed sheet using protons as stone then the black hole will be the output as a puncture. Scientist assumed the theory of Hawking radiation otherwise LHC will definitely create primordial black hole. Even though Hawking radiation is not a proven principle of physics, how court had given permission to scientist to do this experiment?

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:27:34 +0000

OK folks, Here is what I think they are up to at CERN, As Einstein postulated, E=M *C2.
Now the equation is simple and straight forward enough. Energy equals Mass multiplied by the speed of light squared, Thats all it is. So CERN are basically accellerating particles at the speed of light in both directions to cause head on collisions resulting in terminal velocities of speed of light squared, impacts. The results will probably be the creation of energies with mass as they are the product of the equation transposed. Whatever happens i'm sure will be very interesting and of course prove and supercede old theories, about the make up of the universe. This will enable scientists to establish a greater understanding of quantum physics, which will of course lead to a greater understanding and ability to manipulate matter and who knows maybe even time itself.

By: Kirsty

Kirsty — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:19:02 +0000

Er hello didnt you read the report??

By: Kirsty

Kirsty — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:36:49 +0000

From which comments i understand thanks to all the people who've put my mind at rest, i was in kittens as i only found out about the experiment yesterday in the newspaper, headlined, "we only have 9 days left to live until the world blows up" . From that moment i was in mental breakdown and wouldn't leave my families side.
So thankyou to the people who have given their opinions to what they think of this whole shamble.

By: Kedo Keiki

Kedo Keiki — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:17:52 +0000

This experiment should be shut down! I'd rather support the Taliban then see our planet and possibly the universe destroyed! And no i am not mad…. Msn is made by the government to spy on us and so our dragonflies… email me at kazendukzom@hotmail.co.uk

By: The mightyy google.

The mightyy google. — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:24:12 +0000

Ä° am the google.

Now first off, we are all safe.

Even with the prediction that Nostraudamus had.
Hes 400 years dead anyway, what would he know?

(Btw i am ze googleÃ©! if you dont get blown up, eventualy i shall eatz youÃ©!)

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remind me to get milk.

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By: Morrigan

Morrigan — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:07:01 +0000

The reason this article from CERN does not use exact calculations is because it is a press release for the general public.
The people who are going to read it don't understand strings of numbers and though it might seem to some that this is dumbing things down unfortunately the majority of the general public know little about physics and maths.
The idea is to keep things simple.
If you do want a more detailed analysis have a search on the net. Some time back I came across a paper about this which went into great detail about this. Might be an idea also to get in touch with CERN who might be able to send more detailed information than is in the press release.

By: ants

ants — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:33:57 +0000

why do some people think this machine can destroy the universe? i can't comprehend their ignorance. the universe has survived countless supernovae, quasar activity and all kinds of explosive jets of energy so far which involve almost incomprehensible amounts of energy and atom smashing and you're worried about a few billion protons worth of energy spilling out!

By: Zach

Zach — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:27:36 +0000

So… people think they are going to get swallowed by a blackhole in a month, and it's completely preventable. Yet they aren't doing something about it? Lawsuits in Hawii don't count. Atleast try the continental U.S.

By: Chuck R.

Chuck R. — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:37:53 +0000

Can't they just flip th'sucker on right now? I'm bored.

By: terry littell

terry littell — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:16:18 +0000

ooh and maybe lower taxes.

By: terry littell

terry littell — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:14:16 +0000

I think that we should be more informed, and told of such research, before it is funded. And the every day folk [ you know john and jane DUMB DUMB] should have more say in what 4 to 6 billion $ is spent on. cant do that we might get safe bridges and dams. Or a realy large wall at the border.

By: Disinfo Agent

Disinfo Agent — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:20:03 +0000

[quote]This collider uses heavier particles than most of the LHC tests and therefore more likely to produce stranglets. In fact [b]some of its experiments are set up to detect this strange matter[/b]. No stranglets have been found in eight years; not only that, but the chain reaction theorized (turning the world into a clump of strangeness) has no experimental foundation. [b]Stranglets do not exist, and the LHC will not produce them.[/b][/quote]

Is it me, or is that contradiction in their pocket?

By: Joe Smith

Joe Smith — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:20:02 +0000

This safety report seems very cursory and dismissive to me. There's lots of talk here about how these catastrophes are "unlikely," and I agree in the qualitative respect that they are so. The real question, though, is just how unlikely they are. Even this is probably a large exaggeration of the real probability, but imagine that there's a 1 in 10,000,000 chance of an earth destroying catastrophe. I think we can all agree that such a probability merits the qualitative description "unlikely." Now, lets use elementary probability theory to calculate from this the expected value in lives lost from one activation of the LHC. It's a simple matter to divide 6 billion (rough estimate of # of people) by 10,000,000 to get the expected return of 600 fatalities. Now the 1 in 10,000,000 chance doesn't seem so rosy, considering that in a real probabilistic sense we can expect each activation to kill 600 people. I think the LHC is a valuable scientific instrument, and I think a sensitive and determined evaluation would probably put the probabilities so far out there that we needn't concern ourselves, but I think it deserves more serious evaluation than simply "unlikely" or even "highly unlikely."

It's also interesting that you dismiss strangelets for being unobserved, but in the part about black holes we're very convinced about Hawking radiation, even though it is similarly unobserved.

By: Vanamonde

Vanamonde — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:03:55 +0000

Thank you, Jason Leary! Now, I am about tangentle was you can find but I see no relation between Fermi's paradox and this topic.

I blame the micropaleoanthropologists who rule the mass media and drive the culture of the commoners.

Micropaleoanthropology is the study of the great culture significance of the last 15 minutes. Like on CNN, AP, The Dredge Report, FOX "News", etc. Thank you, Eric Idle for that great word!

By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:01:38 +0000

Biggest threat to us is the ignorance of the masses, especially when the smart and evil are able to use it to their advantage.

By: zifferman

zifferman — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:29:13 +0000

I wish people were smarter than flipping out every time something new and unusual comes along that they don't understand.

It's almost embarassing.

Stupid talking monkeys. No bananas for you.

By: Frank Glover

Frank Glover — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:09:45 +0000

"What does the so-called "Fermi Paradox" have to do with the scenarios pertaining to the Hadron Collider ? The so-called Fermi Paradox" (which isn'tâ€” after all, the very term "paradox" is a misnomer) is a SEPARATE ISSUE ! "

I think he's suggesting that there's a seeming lack of ET civilizations because they destroy themselves with LHC-type experiments before getting into space.

And while thre's a non-zero chance that SOME experiment or first use of some other technology we don't have (yet) causes a suden, unforseen demise of the civilization that tries it, it still doesn't follow that THIS is one of them…