Comments on: Possible Solution to Solar Flare Damage to Satellites http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/ Space and astronomy news Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:17:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Michael Gmirkin http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-24060 Michael Gmirkin Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:56:33 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-24060 Oops... That should say: *for years. Oops…

That should say: *for years.

]]> By: Michael Gmirkin http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-24059 Michael Gmirkin Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:55:44 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-24059 Wait, wait, wait... Radio frequency EM waves have an effect on electron populations? Gosh, who'd have thunk it? Haven't they been manipulating charged particles with little things called "particle accelerators" for yet? And what do they use? Hmm... I'll let you look that up! (Linear Accelerator) http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/linac.html (Cyclotrons) http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/cyclo.html#c1 (Synchrotrons) http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/synch.html#c1 Hmm, RF voltages anyone? *Wink* Could it be that the radio waves are setting up a weak electric field in the atmosphere and/or near-earth space that's causing the charged particles to migrate? Just a thought. Could be off base. Cheers, ~Michael Gmirkin Wait, wait, wait… Radio frequency EM waves have an effect on electron populations? Gosh, who'd have thunk it?

Haven't they been manipulating charged particles with little things called "particle accelerators" for yet? And what do they use?

Hmm… I'll let you look that up!

(Linear Accelerator)
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/linac.html

(Cyclotrons)
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/cyclo.html#c1

(Synchrotrons)
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/synch.html#c1

Hmm, RF voltages anyone? *Wink* Could it be that the radio waves are setting up a weak electric field in the atmosphere and/or near-earth space that's causing the charged particles to migrate?

Just a thought. Could be off base.

Cheers,
~Michael Gmirkin

]]> By: Jerry http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-23163 Jerry Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:28:02 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-23163 Anti-jerry You want me to “calm-down” because you are of the same agenda (me thinks) as that anti-Christian ad. No I won’t calm down to please any Christian bashers or their enablers! You say you’re out to get me as though we’re all supposed to laugh. Don’t fall into a manhole on your way trying. Anti-jerry

You want me to “calm-down” because you are of the same agenda (me thinks) as that anti-Christian ad. No I won’t calm down to please any Christian bashers or their enablers! You say you’re out to get me as though we’re all supposed to laugh. Don’t fall into a manhole on your way trying.

]]> By: Anti-jerry http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-23090 Anti-jerry Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:24:13 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-23090 Jeez Jerry! Calm Down! nothing in this article was bashing christianity. back away from the keyboard and take your prozac. -The Anti-Jerry (And yes, I'm out to get you!) Jeez Jerry! Calm Down! nothing in this article was bashing christianity. back away from the keyboard and take your prozac.
-The Anti-Jerry

(And yes, I'm out to get you!)

]]> By: Richad Kirk http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-23032 Richad Kirk Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:44:13 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-23032 Is this the first evidence for this sort of thing? I remember in the 1980's (?) long-distance TV buffs reporting a variation in signal strength. The signal strength, when plotted out with time had a semi-regular square wave profile, which they tentatively identified with data packets being sent via a line-of-sight link to some military satellite. Caused a bit of a hoo-hah at the time because line of sight links were supposed to be secure. They couldn't read any data of course, but even knowing the packet length was a nasty surprise for someone. Is this the first evidence for this sort of thing? I remember in the 1980's (?) long-distance TV buffs reporting a variation in signal strength. The signal strength, when plotted out with time had a semi-regular square wave profile, which they tentatively identified with data packets being sent via a line-of-sight link to some military satellite. Caused a bit of a hoo-hah at the time because line of sight links were supposed to be secure. They couldn't read any data of course, but even knowing the packet length was a nasty surprise for someone.

]]> By: Qev http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-23010 Qev Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:29:38 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-23010 @Michael Nature hates being anthropomorphized. @Michael

Nature hates being anthropomorphized.

]]> By: PHWilson http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-22994 PHWilson Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:47:44 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-22994 Oh Mercy! Now every satellite will carry its own boom box thumping away just like the cars that go by at 4am. Hey, maybe gangsta rap will send a "Don't Tread On Me" message to hostile alien invasion fleets ;). Oh Mercy! Now every satellite will carry its own boom box thumping away just like the cars that go by at 4am. Hey, maybe gangsta rap will send a "Don't Tread On Me" message to hostile alien invasion fleets ;) .

]]> By: Ian O'Neill http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-22988 Ian O'Neill Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:27:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-22988 To Michael: You're right, it was meant to be an Australian military transmitter, and not the scientists. Corrected now :-) Cheers, Ian :D To Michael: You're right, it was meant to be an Australian military transmitter, and not the scientists. Corrected now :-)

Cheers, Ian :D

]]> By: Michael http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/07/possible-solution-to-solar-flare-damage-to-satellites/comment-page-1/#comment-22978 Michael Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:59:59 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14896#comment-22978 Who actually discovered this? First the article says the scientists are Australians. A bit further on in the same article the scientists are from France and New Zealand (in this order), and eventually the same article goes on to say it is a PhD student from New Zealand. Response to the proposed solution: For me mankind has obliterated more than enough of the Earth already, and we've managed to launch tons and tons of debris into orbit around Earth, why continue on this rampage and irradiate space with radio waves? Maybe those charged particles are out there for a reason we don't yet understand? I'd rather see billions of dollars worth of satellites getting fried by a mighty CME, than tinker around willy nilly with something as vital to life on Earth as the Van Allen belts! Once upon a time DDT seemed a good idea too. Think before you act!!! Who actually discovered this? First the article says the scientists are Australians. A bit further on in the same article the scientists are from France and New Zealand (in this order), and eventually the same article goes on to say it is a PhD student from New Zealand.

Response to the proposed solution:

For me mankind has obliterated more than enough of the Earth already, and we've managed to launch tons and tons of debris into orbit around Earth, why continue on this rampage and irradiate space with radio waves? Maybe those charged particles are out there for a reason we don't yet understand? I'd rather see billions of dollars worth of satellites getting fried by a mighty CME, than tinker around willy nilly with something as vital to life on Earth as the Van Allen belts! Once upon a time DDT seemed a good idea too. Think before you act!!!

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