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	<title>Comments on: Launchpad Damaged During Saturday&#039;s Shuttle Launch</title>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/01/launchpad-damaged-during-saturdays-shuttle-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-22612</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the same vein of pure speculation..

I used to do a lot of firing of clay pieces - sometimes we&#039;d go over 2,000 degrees, which may be a similar temperature range, tho we did it a lot more gradually. Two things would often be destructive:

one was moisture pockets as previously mentioned, altho those usually just showed up as  masses that contracted at different rates and eventually cracked and separated from each other.

The things that would really be explosive - usually taking out other people&#039;s pieces with them - were certain kinds of little rocks that had snuck through our filtration process, because they were a lot denser than the clay and didn&#039;t shrink with the heat as the surrounding clay did, creating a lot of tension that would be released explosively. certain kinds of rock in concrete might have similar properties. 

Considering the rapidity of the temp change in a rocket launch, steam is still the more probable of the two theories, but either is plausible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the same vein of pure speculation..</p>
<p>I used to do a lot of firing of clay pieces &#8211; sometimes we&#039;d go over 2,000 degrees, which may be a similar temperature range, tho we did it a lot more gradually. Two things would often be destructive:</p>
<p>one was moisture pockets as previously mentioned, altho those usually just showed up as  masses that contracted at different rates and eventually cracked and separated from each other.</p>
<p>The things that would really be explosive &#8211; usually taking out other people&#039;s pieces with them &#8211; were certain kinds of little rocks that had snuck through our filtration process, because they were a lot denser than the clay and didn&#039;t shrink with the heat as the surrounding clay did, creating a lot of tension that would be released explosively. certain kinds of rock in concrete might have similar properties. </p>
<p>Considering the rapidity of the temp change in a rocket launch, steam is still the more probable of the two theories, but either is plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrofiend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrofiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This best not delay the Hubble service launch...</description>
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		<title>By: Silver Thread</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/01/launchpad-damaged-during-saturdays-shuttle-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-22593</link>
		<dc:creator>Silver Thread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is a fresh repair the concrete used may not have set up properly yet. It can take a considerable amount of time for concrete to set fully and as mentioned before if there was still moisture within the recently repaired section, it is very likely that it was superheated and subsequently was blown apart. I say it&#039;s the cost of doing business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is a fresh repair the concrete used may not have set up properly yet. It can take a considerable amount of time for concrete to set fully and as mentioned before if there was still moisture within the recently repaired section, it is very likely that it was superheated and subsequently was blown apart. I say it&#039;s the cost of doing business.</p>
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		<title>By: brian t</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard about this via Damaris B. Sarria&#039;s blog - http://damarisbsarria.blogspot.com/ - a NASA insider of sorts who&#039;s just applied for the Astronaut training programme. 

If I want to speculate - and I do mean speculate - I&#039;m guessing that there was liquid water somewhere it wasn&#039;t supposed to be. Subject that to the massive blast of intense heat from the engines, and you could have explosive expansion of steam. (I used to work in a steel factory, and if a blob of molten metal landed in a puddle, it went off like a bomb, shaking the whole factory.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard about this via Damaris B. Sarria&#039;s blog &#8211; <a href="http://damarisbsarria.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://damarisbsarria.blogspot.com/</a> &#8211; a NASA insider of sorts who&#039;s just applied for the Astronaut training programme. </p>
<p>If I want to speculate &#8211; and I do mean speculate &#8211; I&#039;m guessing that there was liquid water somewhere it wasn&#039;t supposed to be. Subject that to the massive blast of intense heat from the engines, and you could have explosive expansion of steam. (I used to work in a steel factory, and if a blob of molten metal landed in a puddle, it went off like a bomb, shaking the whole factory.)</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that this type of damage should be expected as the norm, or at least not be unusual considering the massive amounts of force exerted when trying to get something so large and heavy into orbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that this type of damage should be expected as the norm, or at least not be unusual considering the massive amounts of force exerted when trying to get something so large and heavy into orbit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jozef K</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/06/01/launchpad-damaged-during-saturdays-shuttle-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-22550</link>
		<dc:creator>Jozef K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the bright side, the toilet will get fixed?  :\</description>
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