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		<title>By: car jacks</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-58409</link>
		<dc:creator>car jacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I commented here and I should say that you provide   genuine, and quality information for   bloggers! Good job.
p.s. You have a very good template  . Where have you got it from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I commented here and I should say that you provide   genuine, and quality information for   bloggers! Good job.<br />
p.s. You have a very good template  . Where have you got it from?</p>
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		<title>By: robbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>robbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s really quite amazing that this equipment can operate in such cold temperatures. Very impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#039;s really quite amazing that this equipment can operate in such cold temperatures. Very impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin White</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22149</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthias, 

I don&#039;t know how Fahrenheit is defined! I guess that&#039;s sad.  :(

I just know what a 40 degree day feels like, or a 72 degree day, or a 108 degree day...

From a standpoint of reason, of course I understand metric makes much more sense. I think it should be adopted, I think it should be used in science, etc. For many units, like length/distance, volume, weight, etc., I&#039;m able to &quot;think&quot; in metric, but for whatever reason, when I see km/h I have to do a quick calc in my head (divide by 1.6 or so) and when I see degrees C I have to multiply by 1.8 and add 32 -- I blame my parents!  :)

I wouldn&#039;t argue that non-metric is better, I&#039;m just acknowledging I have a ways to go for some measurements, while some people I know don&#039;t have much of a clue at all about metric equivalents. Maybe NEXT generation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthias, </p>
<p>I don&#039;t know how Fahrenheit is defined! I guess that&#039;s sad.  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I just know what a 40 degree day feels like, or a 72 degree day, or a 108 degree day&#8230;</p>
<p>From a standpoint of reason, of course I understand metric makes much more sense. I think it should be adopted, I think it should be used in science, etc. For many units, like length/distance, volume, weight, etc., I&#039;m able to &#034;think&#034; in metric, but for whatever reason, when I see km/h I have to do a quick calc in my head (divide by 1.6 or so) and when I see degrees C I have to multiply by 1.8 and add 32 &#8212; I blame my parents!  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wouldn&#039;t argue that non-metric is better, I&#039;m just acknowledging I have a ways to go for some measurements, while some people I know don&#039;t have much of a clue at all about metric equivalents. Maybe NEXT generation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gibsy</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22090</link>
		<dc:creator>gibsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought that an interesting experiment would be to actually send some hardy strains of bacteria to Mars and see if any of them could survive. Maybe some fungi, too. We should first try to locate sites that we believe would be hospitable (to give them the best  chance) and then turn them loose. I know that Mars is a Sacred Cow to some but to me it&#039;s the ultimate laboratory for experimentation. Besides, if you really want to find life on another planet, the best way is to introduce a new life form that it can potentially feed on,
i.e bait!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought that an interesting experiment would be to actually send some hardy strains of bacteria to Mars and see if any of them could survive. Maybe some fungi, too. We should first try to locate sites that we believe would be hospitable (to give them the best  chance) and then turn them loose. I know that Mars is a Sacred Cow to some but to me it&#039;s the ultimate laboratory for experimentation. Besides, if you really want to find life on another planet, the best way is to introduce a new life form that it can potentially feed on,<br />
i.e bait!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22084</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to strongly vote for metric units. It&#039;s not just Canada, continental Europe is not using anything but them.

So, Kevin, to me it&#039;s quite different: not only do i have no feeling of what fahrenheit &quot;feels like&quot;, i would have to look it up to be able to do the conversion.

(How) Are Â°F defined anyway? Wikipedia(en) cites at least five different ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to strongly vote for metric units. It&#039;s not just Canada, continental Europe is not using anything but them.</p>
<p>So, Kevin, to me it&#039;s quite different: not only do i have no feeling of what fahrenheit &#034;feels like&#034;, i would have to look it up to be able to do the conversion.</p>
<p>(How) Are Â°F defined anyway? Wikipedia(en) cites at least five different ones.</p>
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		<title>By: BadGuy1981</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22073</link>
		<dc:creator>BadGuy1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need the bio barrier because some bacteria is quite rugged.  I read an article about making synthetic diamonds with presses that use diamonds as the pressure points to crush carbon into more diamonds and they guys doing that put some bacteria in the sample and crushed it.  Even under some extreme pressure, some of the bacteria was still moving about and fine as a fiddle.  Thats pretty hardy! So a space journey would be nothing to the right bacteria.  Just imagine the fallout if they discovered &quot;life on Mars&quot; only to find out it was contamination from Earth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need the bio barrier because some bacteria is quite rugged.  I read an article about making synthetic diamonds with presses that use diamonds as the pressure points to crush carbon into more diamonds and they guys doing that put some bacteria in the sample and crushed it.  Even under some extreme pressure, some of the bacteria was still moving about and fine as a fiddle.  Thats pretty hardy! So a space journey would be nothing to the right bacteria.  Just imagine the fallout if they discovered &#034;life on Mars&#034; only to find out it was contamination from Earth!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! I thought this post was about a commo glitch!!..
 

BTW, people â€“ Astronomy uses metric. Thanks for using the â€œUSâ€ imperial measures, though. Itâ€™s what I use.. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I thought this post was about a commo glitch!!..</p>
<p>BTW, people â€“ Astronomy uses metric. Thanks for using the â€œUSâ€ imperial measures, though. Itâ€™s what I use.. <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin White</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22062</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit the temperature scale, when used to describe weather or climate, is one where I still feel the need to convert to Fahrenheit &quot;to see what it&#039;s actually like.&quot; 

It may be the longest holdout in the switch to a metric system. I thought the weather report was nice, so I dropped the link to this post in an email for a couple of friends and family -- with no conversion needed since the temps were already in F. 

Old habits die hard. I&#039;m pretty good (at thinking Metric) in units of distance, volume, and weight, but still like to have my velocity/time (km/h) converted to mph when discussing ground-based speed and my temperature converted to F when discussing temperatures that relate to weather conditions (and HP and ft-lbs of Torque may never go away...). 

I don&#039;t think you can argue the efficacy of F vs. C, just the depth to which F is ingrained while C still feels unfamiliar. Conversions are good, either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit the temperature scale, when used to describe weather or climate, is one where I still feel the need to convert to Fahrenheit &#034;to see what it&#039;s actually like.&#034; </p>
<p>It may be the longest holdout in the switch to a metric system. I thought the weather report was nice, so I dropped the link to this post in an email for a couple of friends and family &#8212; with no conversion needed since the temps were already in F. </p>
<p>Old habits die hard. I&#039;m pretty good (at thinking Metric) in units of distance, volume, and weight, but still like to have my velocity/time (km/h) converted to mph when discussing ground-based speed and my temperature converted to F when discussing temperatures that relate to weather conditions (and HP and ft-lbs of Torque may never go away&#8230;). </p>
<p>I don&#039;t think you can argue the efficacy of F vs. C, just the depth to which F is ingrained while C still feels unfamiliar. Conversions are good, either way.</p>
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		<title>By: Phisizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22055</link>
		<dc:creator>Phisizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.... was that actually a defense of the Fahrenheit scale.... seems to me that was basically.... If you understand Fahrenheit it makes sense to you??  For example, Temps like the 60s, 70s, etc, etc doesn&#039;t mean anything to anyone unless you have experience with that scale??  I don&#039;t see any big conceptual leap in understanding a range like 15-20 Celsius??

32Â°F is the freezing point of water and 212 Â°F the boiling point??? (180 points between...That makes plenty of sense!  Seems pretty arbitrary and harder to calculate with?)

Anyway, I would also like to see Metric measurements if possible please... eventually we will all be using them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh&#8230;. was that actually a defense of the Fahrenheit scale&#8230;. seems to me that was basically&#8230;. If you understand Fahrenheit it makes sense to you??  For example, Temps like the 60s, 70s, etc, etc doesn&#039;t mean anything to anyone unless you have experience with that scale??  I don&#039;t see any big conceptual leap in understanding a range like 15-20 Celsius??</p>
<p>32Â°F is the freezing point of water and 212 Â°F the boiling point??? (180 points between&#8230;That makes plenty of sense!  Seems pretty arbitrary and harder to calculate with?)</p>
<p>Anyway, I would also like to see Metric measurements if possible please&#8230; eventually we will all be using them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Atkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22051</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have converted, sorry.  But it&#039;s odd that the weather report, which is provided by the weather station that comes from equipment provided by Canada and Denmark, and both countries use the Celsius scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have converted, sorry.  But it&#039;s odd that the weather report, which is provided by the weather station that comes from equipment provided by Canada and Denmark, and both countries use the Celsius scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Fahrenheit</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22030</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Fahrenheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I understand the need for imperial for the US audience as this is a popular science website, but Metric conversions would be a nice inclusion as standardâ€¦&quot;

Fahrenheit is a standard, and is in many ways a better gauge for climate temperature:

A notable feature of the Fahrenheit scale is that the broader range of temperatures experienced in a temperate climate span the scale generally from 0 to 100 degrees, whereas this range of temperatures would span the Celsius scale within the relatively small numerical range of -17 to 37 degrees. This results in decades, or ranges of 10 degrees of the Fahrenheit scale, being able to be used to describe the feel of a day&#039;s temperature, i.e. &quot;the 60&#039;s&quot; would indicate that the temperature falls in the distinctive range of 60Â° - 69Â° F. Stating such a range in Celsius could be considered to be a bit more awkward, as rather than saying &quot;in the 60&#039;s&quot;, one would have to say something along the lines of &quot;between 15 and 20&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;I understand the need for imperial for the US audience as this is a popular science website, but Metric conversions would be a nice inclusion as standardâ€¦&#034;</p>
<p>Fahrenheit is a standard, and is in many ways a better gauge for climate temperature:</p>
<p>A notable feature of the Fahrenheit scale is that the broader range of temperatures experienced in a temperate climate span the scale generally from 0 to 100 degrees, whereas this range of temperatures would span the Celsius scale within the relatively small numerical range of -17 to 37 degrees. This results in decades, or ranges of 10 degrees of the Fahrenheit scale, being able to be used to describe the feel of a day&#039;s temperature, i.e. &#034;the 60&#039;s&#034; would indicate that the temperature falls in the distinctive range of 60Â° &#8211; 69Â° F. Stating such a range in Celsius could be considered to be a bit more awkward, as rather than saying &#034;in the 60&#039;s&#034;, one would have to say something along the lines of &#034;between 15 and 20&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: Escherichia coli</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22029</link>
		<dc:creator>Escherichia coli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I mean, not that they will prolifer [sic] in space envieronment so what&#039;s the deal?&quot;

What do you base that on?  Microbes grow in much harsher environments on Earth. 

Too many armchair scientist here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;I mean, not that they will prolifer [sic] in space envieronment so what&#039;s the deal?&#034;</p>
<p>What do you base that on?  Microbes grow in much harsher environments on Earth. </p>
<p>Too many armchair scientist here.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question:
I dont know much about exobiology. Why is the reason for decontaminating the lander? or any planetary mission?
the most weighing explanation to me is to not confuse any contamination with native biological life in a specific planet.
I mean, not that they will prolifer in space envieronment so what&#039;s the deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question:<br />
I dont know much about exobiology. Why is the reason for decontaminating the lander? or any planetary mission?<br />
the most weighing explanation to me is to not confuse any contamination with native biological life in a specific planet.<br />
I mean, not that they will prolifer in space envieronment so what&#039;s the deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Astrofiend</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22027</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrofiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah that bastion of eminent sensibility - the Metric System. 

I understand the need for imperial for the US audience as this is a popular science website, but Metric conversions would be a nice inclusion as standard...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah that bastion of eminent sensibility &#8211; the Metric System. </p>
<p>I understand the need for imperial for the US audience as this is a popular science website, but Metric conversions would be a nice inclusion as standard&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mek</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for converting to metric guys, I truly appreciate it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for converting to metric guys, I truly appreciate it. <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chilinuttz</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22021</link>
		<dc:creator>Chilinuttz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, while I was converting the numbers someone was faster,is it possible to delete the posts ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, while I was converting the numbers someone was faster,is it possible to delete the posts ?</p>
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		<title>By: Chilinuttz</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22020</link>
		<dc:creator>Chilinuttz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible to translate the Fahrenheit to Celsius ?
-112F=  -80C
  -22F=  -30C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to translate the Fahrenheit to Celsius ?<br />
-112F=  -80C<br />
  -22F=  -30C</p>
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		<title>By: watchful stone guardian</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/27/communication-glitch-for-phoenix-mro/comment-page-1/#comment-22019</link>
		<dc:creator>watchful stone guardian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again with the Fahrenheit. Please convert to Celsius...

-22ÂºF = -30ÂºC
-112ÂºF = -80ÂºC

Just to set the record straight we in Canada use Celsius and I suspect NASA scientists are using Kelvin (same degrees, different 0 point i.e. -273 (and change) ÂºC). So a good Canadian weather station would be reporting in metric. The Fahrenheit is merely for the US public. Conversions were gratefully provided by Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again with the Fahrenheit. Please convert to Celsius&#8230;</p>
<p>-22ÂºF = -30ÂºC<br />
-112ÂºF = -80ÂºC</p>
<p>Just to set the record straight we in Canada use Celsius and I suspect NASA scientists are using Kelvin (same degrees, different 0 point i.e. -273 (and change) ÂºC). So a good Canadian weather station would be reporting in metric. The Fahrenheit is merely for the US public. Conversions were gratefully provided by Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh don&#039;t tell me the Mars &quot;Triangle&quot; has struck again!</description>
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