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	<title>Comments on: Life Found a Mile Below Terrestrial Seabed; Implications For Life on Mars</title>
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		<title>By: zifferman</title>
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		<dc:creator>zifferman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, Ian - the whiners in this thread don&#039;t know squat about real science, so just ignore them and let them crawl back into their dark holes.

Viva la life everywhere!  Except the idiots I mentioned above. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t worry, Ian &#8211; the whiners in this thread don&#039;t know squat about real science, so just ignore them and let them crawl back into their dark holes.</p>
<p>Viva la life everywhere!  Except the idiots I mentioned above. <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ian O'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, I wasn&#039;t actually referring to your comment, apologies for not being specific. It was in response to AJames&#039; comment about my &quot;opportunistic&quot; writing. Your comment didn&#039;t offend in the slightest, you explained what you meant, so sorry if you thought I was directing it at you.

See you around! Cheers, Ian :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, I wasn&#039;t actually referring to your comment, apologies for not being specific. It was in response to AJames&#039; comment about my &#034;opportunistic&#034; writing. Your comment didn&#039;t offend in the slightest, you explained what you meant, so sorry if you thought I was directing it at you.</p>
<p>See you around! Cheers, Ian <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article, excellent research.  I think it&#039;s cool that I can access FREE science written by an actual scientist...and every now and then engage in dialogue.  

I definately agree with Ian on this one.  The ranters who mingled in the assorted comments above didn&#039;t bother to come up with meaningful counterpoints...but rather reactionary invective.  This seems to be the signs of our times.  Particularly, western culture has become so polarized in its thinking that we are losing the ability to have a meaningful discussion (not to mention friendship) with people that we disagree with.  How unfortunate.  

Back to the article.  The question that I raise is this a matter of &quot;top down&quot; evolution?  What I mean is, the earth&#039;s surface is generally teeming with life.  Did surface life make its way down to the depths and learn to adapt or did it develop independently in the environment?  I ask this because that may have implications for finding life on Mars.  If the surface of Mars never had a chance to develop life, would that not make it less likely to find life below the surface?  Just wondering.  Any comments, y&#039;all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, excellent research.  I think it&#039;s cool that I can access FREE science written by an actual scientist&#8230;and every now and then engage in dialogue.  </p>
<p>I definately agree with Ian on this one.  The ranters who mingled in the assorted comments above didn&#039;t bother to come up with meaningful counterpoints&#8230;but rather reactionary invective.  This seems to be the signs of our times.  Particularly, western culture has become so polarized in its thinking that we are losing the ability to have a meaningful discussion (not to mention friendship) with people that we disagree with.  How unfortunate.  </p>
<p>Back to the article.  The question that I raise is this a matter of &#034;top down&#034; evolution?  What I mean is, the earth&#039;s surface is generally teeming with life.  Did surface life make its way down to the depths and learn to adapt or did it develop independently in the environment?  I ask this because that may have implications for finding life on Mars.  If the surface of Mars never had a chance to develop life, would that not make it less likely to find life below the surface?  Just wondering.  Any comments, y&#039;all?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everybody understood the article after a second.  I know I was just joking because hey, it did get me. Don&#039;t tell me I didn&#039;t read the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everybody understood the article after a second.  I know I was just joking because hey, it did get me. Don&#039;t tell me I didn&#039;t read the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Kinsley</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/26/life-found-a-mile-below-terrestrial-seabed-implications-for-life-on-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-21875</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Kinsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wherever you go on this planet there is life. Hope it is the same elsewhere in our solar system.

There is no excuse that can be made to destroy life so we can dump our waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wherever you go on this planet there is life. Hope it is the same elsewhere in our solar system.</p>
<p>There is no excuse that can be made to destroy life so we can dump our waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/26/life-found-a-mile-below-terrestrial-seabed-implications-for-life-on-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-21872</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear. No prokaryote was hurt during the making of this article...

I&#039;m sorry for those who think this posting was &quot;opportunistic&quot;, after all we can&#039;t go mentioning the &quot;life&quot; topic so soon after the landing of a Mars mission (that cannot search for life anyway). The heading CLEARLY states &quot;Life Found a Mile Below &lt;strong&gt;Terrestrial Seabed; Implications&lt;/strong&gt; For Life on Mars&quot;. How else would you have me write it?

And geokster, sorry to be losing you, but judging by your comment, you read what you want into our articles anyway! I&#039;ll tell you what, take a deep breath, calm down, and read the last paragraph again. If you feel the same, you obviously don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about. In short, finding life this deep means that if we pump CO2 into the ground, it could wipe out this type of microbe. To be honest, at this stage, we do not know the importance of prokaryotes in the wider ecosystem, or food chain. I was simply stating, that if the current plans to dispose of carbon in this way go ahead, prokaryote damage could be irreversible. 

Thank you Jozef K, astrojog, Astrofiend and Steve, looks like you guys read the article. Thank you for the support :)

Cheers! Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. No prokaryote was hurt during the making of this article&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#039;m sorry for those who think this posting was &#034;opportunistic&#034;, after all we can&#039;t go mentioning the &#034;life&#034; topic so soon after the landing of a Mars mission (that cannot search for life anyway). The heading CLEARLY states &#034;Life Found a Mile Below <strong>Terrestrial Seabed; Implications</strong> For Life on Mars&#034;. How else would you have me write it?</p>
<p>And geokster, sorry to be losing you, but judging by your comment, you read what you want into our articles anyway! I&#039;ll tell you what, take a deep breath, calm down, and read the last paragraph again. If you feel the same, you obviously don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about. In short, finding life this deep means that if we pump CO2 into the ground, it could wipe out this type of microbe. To be honest, at this stage, we do not know the importance of prokaryotes in the wider ecosystem, or food chain. I was simply stating, that if the current plans to dispose of carbon in this way go ahead, prokaryote damage could be irreversible. </p>
<p>Thank you Jozef K, astrojog, Astrofiend and Steve, looks like you guys read the article. Thank you for the support <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers! Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen astrofiend,
Could not have said it better myself.
These discoveries keep pushing the limits to what our current theories of life exist.  Im still waiting for the discovery of a non carbon based form whether it be on another body or here on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen astrofiend,<br />
Could not have said it better myself.<br />
These discoveries keep pushing the limits to what our current theories of life exist.  Im still waiting for the discovery of a non carbon based form whether it be on another body or here on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrofiend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrofiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geokster Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 9:01 pm 

&quot;blah blah blah&quot;

Wow; passionate, aren&#039;t we geokster? Storming off chucking a little tanty like most of your type do when the tide of scientific opinion is against you. You aren&#039;t an &#039;intelligent design&#039;  proponent too by any chance, are you? I just mention it because it seems that the same childish behaviour that you demonstrate in your rant seems to be a trait that is quite similar to that commonly observed in the ID mafia. Boo hoo.

This article made the barest mention of climate change, and did so in a manner that was relevant to the main story at hand. It didn&#039;t even promote the concept for goodness sake. It simply stated that carbon sequestration could affect habitats that were previously unknown. If anything, that provides an argument against the process, which should make you happy seeing as climate change is all a load of rubbish anyway - right?

F-M-D; the people that write these articles keep doing so for God-knows-what-reason. Half of what they write is lambasted by morons with an axe to grind, and yet they continue to churn out quality stories anyway which we should all be grateful for. So if you don&#039;t want to read it - don&#039;t. If you disagree with something, come up with a thoughtful post or argument defending your position, or keep it to yourself.

You say that you won&#039;t be coming here again, but you&#039;ll probably be back. And we&#039;ll all have the displeasure of reading your mind-numbing posts and knowing that we just got a bit dumber for the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geokster Says:<br />
May 26th, 2008 at 9:01 pm </p>
<p>&#034;blah blah blah&#034;</p>
<p>Wow; passionate, aren&#039;t we geokster? Storming off chucking a little tanty like most of your type do when the tide of scientific opinion is against you. You aren&#039;t an &#039;intelligent design&#039;  proponent too by any chance, are you? I just mention it because it seems that the same childish behaviour that you demonstrate in your rant seems to be a trait that is quite similar to that commonly observed in the ID mafia. Boo hoo.</p>
<p>This article made the barest mention of climate change, and did so in a manner that was relevant to the main story at hand. It didn&#039;t even promote the concept for goodness sake. It simply stated that carbon sequestration could affect habitats that were previously unknown. If anything, that provides an argument against the process, which should make you happy seeing as climate change is all a load of rubbish anyway &#8211; right?</p>
<p>F-M-D; the people that write these articles keep doing so for God-knows-what-reason. Half of what they write is lambasted by morons with an axe to grind, and yet they continue to churn out quality stories anyway which we should all be grateful for. So if you don&#039;t want to read it &#8211; don&#039;t. If you disagree with something, come up with a thoughtful post or argument defending your position, or keep it to yourself.</p>
<p>You say that you won&#039;t be coming here again, but you&#039;ll probably be back. And we&#039;ll all have the displeasure of reading your mind-numbing posts and knowing that we just got a bit dumber for the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: astrojog</title>
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		<dc:creator>astrojog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 05:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discovery of life a mile beneath the crust.  This sheds some light on how the early Earth developed as well as the bio/geo factors that go into crustal development.

Although some may interpret this article as &quot;eco biased&quot;, there are some interesting implications regarding life found at certain depths of the Earth&#039;s crust to CO2 sequestration.  Here is a link to a professor out in Arizona that discusses:

http://www.hwr.arizona.edu/mcintosh/Site/Home.html

Nonetheless, this discovery brings to the forefront the various possibilities of finding life, and under what conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discovery of life a mile beneath the crust.  This sheds some light on how the early Earth developed as well as the bio/geo factors that go into crustal development.</p>
<p>Although some may interpret this article as &#034;eco biased&#034;, there are some interesting implications regarding life found at certain depths of the Earth&#039;s crust to CO2 sequestration.  Here is a link to a professor out in Arizona that discusses:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hwr.arizona.edu/mcintosh/Site/Home.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hwr.arizona.edu/mcintosh/Site/Home.html</a></p>
<p>Nonetheless, this discovery brings to the forefront the various possibilities of finding life, and under what conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jozef K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jozef K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 04:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Geokster,

Really? Ian is reporting on a news relating to how life found in the earth in harsh conditions raises hopes of possible life on Mars and how it possibly threats untouched ecosystems. 

I don&#039;t recall reading anything about killing off humanity...

Good work Ian! Keep up the cool news!!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Geokster,</p>
<p>Really? Ian is reporting on a news relating to how life found in the earth in harsh conditions raises hopes of possible life on Mars and how it possibly threats untouched ecosystems. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t recall reading anything about killing off humanity&#8230;</p>
<p>Good work Ian! Keep up the cool news!!! <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: geokster</title>
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		<dc:creator>geokster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 04:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing, and disgusting.

Somehow this discovery of the hardiness of life was turned into another propaganda screed for global warming advocates and radical envirofreaks. According to the apocalyptics, there is apparently nothing we can do now to prevent Earth from turning into Venus short of eliminating 99% of the human population and turning the rest into a strictly organic agrarian society, is there?

That is, except for the elites like Algore, who will lead us into the Promised Land in his ethanol Hummer, along with his acolytes, like the ones who rule here.

This site used to be one of my favorite daily stops. No longer.

There are plenty of other top-notch sites where all the same scientific discoveries are found, without the political correctness. I&#039;m voting with my keyboard and deleting this one from my favorites.

Go ahead and preach to your choir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing, and disgusting.</p>
<p>Somehow this discovery of the hardiness of life was turned into another propaganda screed for global warming advocates and radical envirofreaks. According to the apocalyptics, there is apparently nothing we can do now to prevent Earth from turning into Venus short of eliminating 99% of the human population and turning the rest into a strictly organic agrarian society, is there?</p>
<p>That is, except for the elites like Algore, who will lead us into the Promised Land in his ethanol Hummer, along with his acolytes, like the ones who rule here.</p>
<p>This site used to be one of my favorite daily stops. No longer.</p>
<p>There are plenty of other top-notch sites where all the same scientific discoveries are found, without the political correctness. I&#039;m voting with my keyboard and deleting this one from my favorites.</p>
<p>Go ahead and preach to your choir.</p>
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		<title>By: AJames</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 02:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very disappointed with this particular opportunistic news note in Universe Today. This is mainly because of the head grabbing headline to reel us (sucker) readers in - especially with the Martian lander so very close on it heels.
Sorry, at the moment I am having serious problems with the media regarding Phoenix. This is because I cannot ; separate speculation from the science / truth from reality / .psuedo-science from discovery / hype, politics and congratulating the funding bodies against hushed and humble awe.

If they find life on Mars, then we should all celebrate, Until then all the speculation &quot;don&#039;t really mean a thing in this crazy world...&quot; 

(NOTE: More interested at the moment with the Cisco &quot;live&quot; hologram stories on telepresence - just like Princess Leia in the beginning scenes of Star Wars : A New Hope... Ie. &quot;Help me Obi-Won Konobi. Your Our Only Hope.&quot; Finding Life on Mars might be wonderful to discover, but having realistic holographic images projected on the internet in the next 5 years will change communications and entertainment between people throughout the entire world. The applications will make this technology as important as the telephone, the computer or even penicillin . Maybe the first person on Mars, might even be a projected hologram!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very disappointed with this particular opportunistic news note in Universe Today. This is mainly because of the head grabbing headline to reel us (sucker) readers in &#8211; especially with the Martian lander so very close on it heels.<br />
Sorry, at the moment I am having serious problems with the media regarding Phoenix. This is because I cannot ; separate speculation from the science / truth from reality / .psuedo-science from discovery / hype, politics and congratulating the funding bodies against hushed and humble awe.</p>
<p>If they find life on Mars, then we should all celebrate, Until then all the speculation &#034;don&#039;t really mean a thing in this crazy world&#8230;&#034; </p>
<p>(NOTE: More interested at the moment with the Cisco &#034;live&#034; hologram stories on telepresence &#8211; just like Princess Leia in the beginning scenes of Star Wars : A New Hope&#8230; Ie. &#034;Help me Obi-Won Konobi. Your Our Only Hope.&#034; Finding Life on Mars might be wonderful to discover, but having realistic holographic images projected on the internet in the next 5 years will change communications and entertainment between people throughout the entire world. The applications will make this technology as important as the telephone, the computer or even penicillin . Maybe the first person on Mars, might even be a projected hologram!)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 01:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was so caught up in &quot;Life Found&quot; I didn&#039;t even register the &quot;Terrestrial&quot; part. You got me good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so caught up in &#034;Life Found&#034; I didn&#039;t even register the &#034;Terrestrial&#034; part. You got me good.</p>
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