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	<title>Comments on: First Images from Phoenix</title>
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		<title>By: ZAMEER</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-22217</link>
		<dc:creator>ZAMEER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 18:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOD LUCK MY DREAMS PHOENIX I WESH YOU THEANK YOU NASA</description>
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		<title>By: gudenboink</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-21935</link>
		<dc:creator>gudenboink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They named this mission Pheonix due to the fact that the first polar lander crashed and burned in 1998 and this is due to rise from the ashes of that mission. 

Does anybody remember the 1998 Polar mission that crashed because they forgot to change the calculations from feet to meters?  The lander thought it was 10 feet off the ground (ish) when it was in fact 10 meters off the ground.  
There&#039;s a nice little dent at the south pole somewhere with an ex-JPL employees name on it !  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They named this mission Pheonix due to the fact that the first polar lander crashed and burned in 1998 and this is due to rise from the ashes of that mission. </p>
<p>Does anybody remember the 1998 Polar mission that crashed because they forgot to change the calculations from feet to meters?  The lander thought it was 10 feet off the ground (ish) when it was in fact 10 meters off the ground.<br />
There&#039;s a nice little dent at the south pole somewhere with an ex-JPL employees name on it !  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: marcellus</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcellus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That white thing was a periscope from a recon vehicle sent by the Martians that live in &quot;the pyramid complex&quot; near the Face on Mars at Cydonia.

Duh.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That white thing was a periscope from a recon vehicle sent by the Martians that live in &#034;the pyramid complex&#034; near the Face on Mars at Cydonia.</p>
<p>Duh.</p>
<p>Well done Phoenix!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 02:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, I&#039;m interested in confirmation, but I actually wouldn&#039;t be too surprised (or skeptical) if the official explanation were along the lines of just a CCD glitch. It could certainly be a man-made object from this or another mission (heat shield, parachute part, etc.) although the odds of something appearing within Phoenix&#039;s field of vision are probably pretty low. 

I&#039;m curious as to whether it is reproducible (as opposed to something that appears only in that early photo) -- and if so, how far away it is. 

I&#039;ve chuckled at a few of the humorous &quot;speculations&quot; (my favorite is that it&#039;s just a &quot;moisture vaporator&quot; as on the fictional planet Tatooine). But I do think NASA should provide a sound explanation relatively soon so that the science can begin! All we need is mainstream media latching on to this and letting it overshadow the mission, or conspiracy theorists running with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, I&#039;m interested in confirmation, but I actually wouldn&#039;t be too surprised (or skeptical) if the official explanation were along the lines of just a CCD glitch. It could certainly be a man-made object from this or another mission (heat shield, parachute part, etc.) although the odds of something appearing within Phoenix&#039;s field of vision are probably pretty low. </p>
<p>I&#039;m curious as to whether it is reproducible (as opposed to something that appears only in that early photo) &#8212; and if so, how far away it is. </p>
<p>I&#039;ve chuckled at a few of the humorous &#034;speculations&#034; (my favorite is that it&#039;s just a &#034;moisture vaporator&#034; as on the fictional planet Tatooine). But I do think NASA should provide a sound explanation relatively soon so that the science can begin! All we need is mainstream media latching on to this and letting it overshadow the mission, or conspiracy theorists running with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kiwimars</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-2/#comment-21803</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwimars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That vertical white mark you talk about Kevin sure looks like something, I could imagine that it could easily be the heat shield wedged into the ground, I eagerly await news on this, at the moment it seems to have been largely ignored by most media outlets/websites so thanks for pointing me to this, would not have seen it otherwise and now i know what the reporter in the press conference was on about, unfortunately the nasa guys fobbed off his question, generally they seem very reluctant to say anything that might be proved wrong later, can&#039;t entirely blame them for that but it is frustrating. The phoenix official website does not have this photo displayed yet, i guess they are trying to keep it low key to avoid too much attention until they have had a chance to verify for sure what it is. Someone did joke that it was a polar bear, probably some tabloid paper is now reporting this as a serious comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That vertical white mark you talk about Kevin sure looks like something, I could imagine that it could easily be the heat shield wedged into the ground, I eagerly await news on this, at the moment it seems to have been largely ignored by most media outlets/websites so thanks for pointing me to this, would not have seen it otherwise and now i know what the reporter in the press conference was on about, unfortunately the nasa guys fobbed off his question, generally they seem very reluctant to say anything that might be proved wrong later, can&#039;t entirely blame them for that but it is frustrating. The phoenix official website does not have this photo displayed yet, i guess they are trying to keep it low key to avoid too much attention until they have had a chance to verify for sure what it is. Someone did joke that it was a polar bear, probably some tabloid paper is now reporting this as a serious comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Awad El-Mekki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awad El-Mekki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;soil&#039; surrounding  the leg of Phoenix was disturbed as much as I would do here in earth walking on a sandy beach!  An immense success for the NASA scientists. Very well done indeed..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#039;soil&#039; surrounding  the leg of Phoenix was disturbed as much as I would do here in earth walking on a sandy beach!  An immense success for the NASA scientists. Very well done indeed..</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once the orbiting Mars Odyssey spacecraft zero&#039;s in on the location, we&#039;ll surely see images of the discarded parachute. Standby because we&#039;ll also see the Phoenix Lander itself bravely resting on this alien tundra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once the orbiting Mars Odyssey spacecraft zero&#039;s in on the location, we&#039;ll surely see images of the discarded parachute. Standby because we&#039;ll also see the Phoenix Lander itself bravely resting on this alien tundra.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21749</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landscape looks a bit lke Arizona maybe why they named the mission Phoenix</description>
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		<title>By: soar</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21721</link>
		<dc:creator>soar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats Phoenix.</description>
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		<title>By: Helio George</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21720</link>
		<dc:creator>Helio George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super Duper!  Nice Flying Phoenix!

I wonder if we&#039;ll see the parachute?</description>
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<p>I wonder if we&#039;ll see the parachute?</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21716</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason for black and white is that you get higher quality and less noise (among other benefits) when you dedicate the entire CCD to luminance (this is not exactly correct, but it will suffice).

In any event, the primary reason for NASA besides the quality, is that you can pass various filters in front of the lens and get all sorts of results. You can also derive color images by taking passes behind Red Green and Blue filters. In addition, you can use infrared and other filters sensitive to various elements.

JC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason for black and white is that you get higher quality and less noise (among other benefits) when you dedicate the entire CCD to luminance (this is not exactly correct, but it will suffice).</p>
<p>In any event, the primary reason for NASA besides the quality, is that you can pass various filters in front of the lens and get all sorts of results. You can also derive color images by taking passes behind Red Green and Blue filters. In addition, you can use infrared and other filters sensitive to various elements.</p>
<p>JC</p>
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		<title>By: neoguru</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21713</link>
		<dc:creator>neoguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still do not understand how liquid water could ever exist for any reasonable length of time on Mars. I&#039;ve never heard a reasonable explanation. It&#039;s COLD on Mars!</description>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21711</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember hearing on Nasa TV that Phoenix does have the ability to take colour images, but I guess it&#039;s not a priority right now. When the orbiter is overhead, Phoenix will be transmitting more important data because the mission is in the characterization phase. I&#039;m looking forward to those colour pics though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember hearing on Nasa TV that Phoenix does have the ability to take colour images, but I guess it&#039;s not a priority right now. When the orbiter is overhead, Phoenix will be transmitting more important data because the mission is in the characterization phase. I&#039;m looking forward to those colour pics though!</p>
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		<title>By: aditya</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21710</link>
		<dc:creator>aditya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where&#039;s the ice i thought it landed on the poles</description>
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		<title>By: robbb</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21707</link>
		<dc:creator>robbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing shots. Great detail.  Am also wondering if there will be color images?</description>
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		<title>By: owen</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21706</link>
		<dc:creator>owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good luck phoenix</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Brouwer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21699</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Brouwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a life..........Doesn&#039;t look like a real inspiring place to look for life. The Mariner Valley seem&#039;s more scenic. I also noted the lack of Martian plants on the surface.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a life&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Doesn&#039;t look like a real inspiring place to look for life. The Mariner Valley seem&#039;s more scenic. I also noted the lack of Martian plants on the surface&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert R</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21696</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 10:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Uranus.</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. LAME</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21695</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. LAME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 09:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soo wheres oil?</description>
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		<title>By: laneyz</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21690</link>
		<dc:creator>laneyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 08:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any colour photo&#039;s? forgive my ignorance but why only black and white...</description>
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		<title>By: Al Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21689</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO!!..</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21684</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin White,
The spot is consistent in both pictures(the complete shot and the incomplete one). Maybe ET is waving hello? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin White,<br />
The spot is consistent in both pictures(the complete shot and the incomplete one). Maybe ET is waving hello? <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mac Tonnies</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21677</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Tonnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What wonderful news!  I&#039;m in a celebratory spirit!</description>
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		<title>By: A person</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/first-images-from-phoenix/comment-page-1/#comment-21676</link>
		<dc:creator>A person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONGRATULATIONS Pheonix !!Wishing you al the best all the way :D :] Find us some life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONGRATULATIONS Pheonix !!Wishing you al the best all the way <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  :] Find us some life!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/phoenix/images/lg_347.jpg

^Just at the edge of the horizon, about two-thirds of the way from the left, a little vertical white mark â€” dust on the lens, lens flare, a jpeg artifact, a glitch in the CCD/CMOS of the camera â€” ?</description>
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<p>^Just at the edge of the horizon, about two-thirds of the way from the left, a little vertical white mark â€” dust on the lens, lens flare, a jpeg artifact, a glitch in the CCD/CMOS of the camera â€” ?</p>
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