Comments on: Could Dark Matter be the Root Cause of Flyby Anomalies? http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:07:54 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: greg your last name http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21887 greg your last name Tue, 27 May 2008 14:15:04 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21887 i don't know for sure, obviously, but I doubt it is dark matter. Maybe it could be the huge magnetic fields? This could explain acceleration and deceleration. I mean the things that orbit are of course machines. Perhaps they could be sped or slowed by the correct charge? Just an idea I thought of... i don't know for sure, obviously, but I doubt it is dark matter. Maybe it could be the huge magnetic fields? This could explain acceleration and deceleration. I mean the things that orbit are of course machines. Perhaps they could be sped or slowed by the correct charge? Just an idea I thought of…

]]> By: dirk http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21583 dirk Sun, 25 May 2008 08:46:14 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21583 Dark matter looks more like dark science to me. Why not focus on fundamental understanding of gravity and plasma (for instance) instead of adding more dimensions and funny names to exotic theoretical fabric. Atomic expansion (McCutcheon) predicts explains these anomalies from true fysical understanding point of view. Dark matter looks more like dark science to me. Why not focus on fundamental understanding of gravity and plasma (for instance) instead of adding more dimensions and funny names to exotic theoretical fabric.
Atomic expansion (McCutcheon) predicts explains these anomalies from true fysical understanding point of view.

]]> By: mike http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21571 mike Sun, 25 May 2008 00:43:39 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21571 the earth-bound density is much higher than the solar system-bound density. - - this Earth (planetary) bound dark matter should be present around all the planets, possibility in proportion to barionic matter. This should be detectable be orbital anomalies of probes currently orbiting Mercury, Mars, Jupiter & Saturn the earth-bound density is much higher than the solar system-bound density. – - this Earth (planetary) bound dark matter should be present around all the planets, possibility in proportion to barionic matter. This should be detectable be orbital anomalies of probes currently orbiting Mercury, Mars, Jupiter & Saturn

]]> By: alphonso richardson http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21475 alphonso richardson Fri, 23 May 2008 11:39:34 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21475 It probably isn't a Dark Matter effect. Let's just calm down, have a nice cup of cocoa, relax & maybe the answer will come. or at least the right kind of experiment It probably isn't a Dark Matter effect. Let's just calm down, have a nice cup of cocoa, relax & maybe the answer will come.
or at least the right kind of experiment

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21463 dollhopf Fri, 23 May 2008 08:55:32 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21463 Are there more anomalies to find in "ancient" trajectory data? Should experiments be conducted in which flight paths are measured with much more accuracy than usual? We have thousands of satellites in space and maybe their flight behaviour would show anomalies which are concealed in "insufficient" observation. Isn't a fly by manoeuvre akin to the transit of a satellite on a highly excentric orbit through it's perigee? Should more accurate radar surveillance not be able to find a faintest jump in orbital acceleration in every such orbital loop of every ordinary earth satellite? Are there more anomalies to find in "ancient" trajectory data?

Should experiments be conducted in which flight paths are measured with much more accuracy than usual?

We have thousands of satellites in space and maybe their flight behaviour would show anomalies which are concealed in "insufficient" observation.

Isn't a fly by manoeuvre akin to the transit of a satellite on a highly excentric orbit through it's perigee? Should more accurate radar surveillance not be able to find a faintest jump in orbital acceleration in every such orbital loop of every ordinary earth satellite?

]]> By: David http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21461 David Fri, 23 May 2008 08:14:03 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21461 "I wonder if Dark matter is to space what Water is to the Ocean. Sort of a ubiquitous medium through which all things travel, but essentially undetectable to objects within the medium, though obviously it's effects could be perceived." Ah, what they used to call the ether. That would also help explain gravity. What is space was a solid substance. We wouldn't see it, the same way fish don't see the water they are in. "I wonder if Dark matter is to space what Water is to the Ocean. Sort of a ubiquitous medium through which all things travel, but essentially undetectable to objects within the medium, though obviously it's effects could be perceived."

Ah, what they used to call the ether. That would also help explain gravity. What is space was a solid substance. We wouldn't see it, the same way fish don't see the water they are in.

]]> By: bob http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21439 bob Fri, 23 May 2008 02:54:19 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21439 The larger particles are harder to find because it takes more energy to find them. We are not talking about visible matter here and we are not talking about something that is influenced by EM in any way. The heaviest particles are the most difficult to find in particle accelerators and the most massive supersymmetric particles (if they are proven to exist) will be hardest to detect, requiring the most energy. The larger particles are harder to find because it takes more energy to find them. We are not talking about visible matter here and we are not talking about something that is influenced by EM in any way. The heaviest particles are the most difficult to find in particle accelerators and the most massive supersymmetric particles (if they are proven to exist) will be hardest to detect, requiring the most energy.

]]> By: Bridh Hancock http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21423 Bridh Hancock Fri, 23 May 2008 01:35:17 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21423 Do we have here some anomalies being brough forth to be considered via-a-vis this Dark Matter explanation? Where were they hiding? In the details? Sometimes this seems to be a deliberately perverse universe. I think we should seek out some very-large Dark Matter particals because they should be easiler to find and they should have some effect on Standard Matter and Energy. Do we have here some anomalies being brough forth to be considered via-a-vis this Dark Matter explanation? Where were they hiding? In the details? Sometimes this seems to be a deliberately perverse universe.

I think we should seek out some very-large Dark Matter particals because they should be easiler to find and they should have some effect on Standard Matter and Energy.

]]> By: dollhopf http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21292 dollhopf Thu, 22 May 2008 10:15:38 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21292 upps, there is also an "anomaly" in the behaviour of the Pioneer probe http://planetary.org/programs/projects/pioneer_anomaly/ upps,

there is also an "anomaly" in the behaviour of the Pioneer probe

http://planetary.org/programs/projects/pioneer_anomaly/

]]> By: Joeru http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21285 Joeru Thu, 22 May 2008 08:04:11 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21285 That's why I was late for work this morning. Dark matter causing a decrease in my acceleration. Can I get an excuse note from my physicist? That's why I was late for work this morning. Dark matter causing a decrease in my acceleration. Can I get an excuse note from my physicist?

]]> By: Ryan http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21270 Ryan Thu, 22 May 2008 05:15:06 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21270 That's an interesting perspective, Silver. Anyway, just to point out, the planet Neptune was once what we now consider dark matter since it was used as a theory to help explain Uranus's orbit before it was ever directly observed. A lot of the time dark matter is just matter we can't see for mundane reasons. That's an interesting perspective, Silver.

Anyway, just to point out, the planet Neptune was once what we now consider dark matter since it was used as a theory to help explain Uranus's orbit before it was ever directly observed. A lot of the time dark matter is just matter we can't see for mundane reasons.

]]> By: Silver Thread http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21266 Silver Thread Thu, 22 May 2008 04:51:30 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21266 I wonder if Dark matter is to space what Water is to the Ocean. Sort of a ubiquitous medium through which all things travel, but essentially undetectable to objects within the medium, though obviously it's effects could be perceived. I wonder if Dark matter is to space what Water is to the Ocean. Sort of a ubiquitous medium through which all things travel, but essentially undetectable to objects within the medium, though obviously it's effects could be perceived.

]]> By: Astrofiend http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21242 Astrofiend Thu, 22 May 2008 02:16:47 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21242 The Unruh Effect - I'd actually never even heard of this before. Just looked it up on Wikipedia - fascinating! Cool name to boot... The Unruh Effect – I'd actually never even heard of this before. Just looked it up on Wikipedia – fascinating!

Cool name to boot…

]]> By: RL http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21234 RL Thu, 22 May 2008 00:35:13 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21234 If there was dark mater orbiting the Earth, wouldn't it have been noticed with every launch of a satellite and a probe? I thought the flyby anomalies were confined to very specific trajectories and confined to a few probes. If there was dark mater orbiting the Earth, wouldn't it have been noticed with every launch of a satellite and a probe? I thought the flyby anomalies were confined to very specific trajectories and confined to a few probes.

]]> By: Emission Nebula http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21179 Emission Nebula Wed, 21 May 2008 19:52:12 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21179 Dark Gnat, Amen :) Why would we bother to learn about something that we dont understand? Thats just crazy talk ;) Dark matter could very well be the reason for flyby anomalies. Is it possible that dark matter is more or less a lack of understanding about how gravity and matter work together on a larger scale? Just a thought. Dark Gnat, Amen :)

Why would we bother to learn about something that we dont understand? Thats just crazy talk ;)

Dark matter could very well be the reason for flyby anomalies. Is it possible that dark matter is more or less a lack of understanding about how gravity and matter work together on a larger scale?
Just a thought.

]]> By: Todd Sieling http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21157 Todd Sieling Wed, 21 May 2008 17:26:14 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21157 Or superstrings. It really starts to feel like the 'reverse the polarity' solutions that sci-fi often use to get characters out of sticky situations. "Maybe it's the mystery catch-all substance we have yet to interact with through anything but pure inference." Sounds like a trope to me, though a fun one to think about and to study. Or superstrings. It really starts to feel like the 'reverse the polarity' solutions that sci-fi often use to get characters out of sticky situations.

"Maybe it's the mystery catch-all substance we have yet to interact with through anything but pure inference."

Sounds like a trope to me, though a fun one to think about and to study.

]]> By: Dark Gnat http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21155 Dark Gnat Wed, 21 May 2008 17:06:50 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21155 [Sarcasm] Exactly. It's a waste of time to search for an explanation to things we don't know. Scientists should focus on science. [/Sarcasm] [Sarcasm]
Exactly. It's a waste of time to search for an explanation to things we don't know.

Scientists should focus on science.

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]]> By: Badthing http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21146 Badthing Wed, 21 May 2008 16:41:25 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21146 Yeah! Why do scientists keep coming up with new theories about things that are unexplained?! Why don't they just cut it out. Yeah! Why do scientists keep coming up with new theories about things that are unexplained?! Why don't they just cut it out.

]]> By: LLDIAZ http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/21/could-dark-matter-be-the-root-cause-of-flyby-anomalies/comment-page-1/#comment-21130 LLDIAZ Wed, 21 May 2008 15:26:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/?p=14409#comment-21130 one quick question plz Why is it that every thing we cant explain turns out to be dark matter. one quick question plz
Why is it that every thing we cant explain turns out to be dark matter.

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