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		<title>By: some guy</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-2/#comment-19819</link>
		<dc:creator>some guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so if u want to avoid all the heat why not just go at night eh?</description>
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		<title>By: CME Eater</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19686</link>
		<dc:creator>CME Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam... Well said! :-)

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Wake up... don&#039;t judge our actions, and we won&#039;t judge yours.  

Unfortunately, your statement shows how you have trouble relating one public issue with another (fuel cost/space exploration).  I&#039;m sorry you are so misinformed and confused.  

I will not fault you if you send a note to the tax man, and request that your personal tax dollars are not used on this mission.  There are a lot of us who are all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam&#8230; Well said! <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Wake up&#8230; don&#039;t judge our actions, and we won&#039;t judge yours.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, your statement shows how you have trouble relating one public issue with another (fuel cost/space exploration).  I&#039;m sorry you are so misinformed and confused.  </p>
<p>I will not fault you if you send a note to the tax man, and request that your personal tax dollars are not used on this mission.  There are a lot of us who are all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19677</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Almighty gave us brains to explore the solar system for almost no money at all (compared to how much is being wasted on bad movies, cosmetics, wars etc) so we should heed this indirect calling. It&#039;s a perfect opportunity to learn more about the Creation and praise its Creator. If not for any other reason, a challenge like this gives new technologies for use on Earth and new jobs which in turn produce tax money. WAKE UP: go back to sleep!

Anyway, it will be a wonderful mission if it can go ahead. So much in our lives depends on the Sun it should be somewhere near the top of our agenda to research our local star as much as possible.

Kind regards,
/Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Almighty gave us brains to explore the solar system for almost no money at all (compared to how much is being wasted on bad movies, cosmetics, wars etc) so we should heed this indirect calling. It&#039;s a perfect opportunity to learn more about the Creation and praise its Creator. If not for any other reason, a challenge like this gives new technologies for use on Earth and new jobs which in turn produce tax money. WAKE UP: go back to sleep!</p>
<p>Anyway, it will be a wonderful mission if it can go ahead. So much in our lives depends on the Sun it should be somewhere near the top of our agenda to research our local star as much as possible.</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
/Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Shake Up</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19676</link>
		<dc:creator>Shake Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 07:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake Up, why not let &quot;God Almighty&quot; take care of the Earth, or is &quot;God Almighty&quot; an absentee landlord?

This is a much better use of tax payers money than making million dollar bombs.

I say we all go and look at the Bollywood links from aju.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake Up, why not let &#034;God Almighty&#034; take care of the Earth, or is &#034;God Almighty&#034; an absentee landlord?</p>
<p>This is a much better use of tax payers money than making million dollar bombs.</p>
<p>I say we all go and look at the Bollywood links from aju.  <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Astrofiend (Syd, Aust)</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19667</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrofiend (Syd, Aust)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  WAKE UP Says:
May 5th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

&quot;Wake Up People, all these missions are money wastedâ€“lets take care of the Earth that we live on and leave the rest to God Almighty.
People on Earth on slaving their azz off to pay taxes to send to Mars, no wonder gasoline is so high, it is going into space.&quot;

The fact that missions such as these go ahead is awesome. The fact that that pisses you off &#039;WAKE UP&#039; makes me even happier. Probably twice as happy, actually. Oh, glorious day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  WAKE UP Says:<br />
May 5th, 2008 at 6:47 pm</p>
<p>&#034;Wake Up People, all these missions are money wastedâ€“lets take care of the Earth that we live on and leave the rest to God Almighty.<br />
People on Earth on slaving their azz off to pay taxes to send to Mars, no wonder gasoline is so high, it is going into space.&#034;</p>
<p>The fact that missions such as these go ahead is awesome. The fact that that pisses you off &#039;WAKE UP&#039; makes me even happier. Probably twice as happy, actually. Oh, glorious day!</p>
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		<title>By: WAKE UP</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19660</link>
		<dc:creator>WAKE UP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake Up People, all these missions are money wasted--lets take care of the Earth that we live on and leave the rest to God Almighty.
    People on Earth on slaving their azz off to pay taxes to send to Mars, no wonder gasoline is so high, it is going into space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake Up People, all these missions are money wasted&#8211;lets take care of the Earth that we live on and leave the rest to God Almighty.<br />
    People on Earth on slaving their azz off to pay taxes to send to Mars, no wonder gasoline is so high, it is going into space.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19645</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I hope their not BS&#039;ing about the heat shield. If their just hoping it will hold up to that kind of enviroment, I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath long. The good part is, if it does, it might give N.A.S.A. an idea about how to shield space craft for lunar missions to be safe enough for men to go and work on the moons surface with out danger of radiation exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I hope their not BS&#039;ing about the heat shield. If their just hoping it will hold up to that kind of enviroment, I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath long. The good part is, if it does, it might give N.A.S.A. an idea about how to shield space craft for lunar missions to be safe enough for men to go and work on the moons surface with out danger of radiation exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: nero</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19642</link>
		<dc:creator>nero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I live in the United States and I&#039;d rather see things in metric too. Leave it to us to be wonky.</description>
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		<title>By: El Sofista - MisiÃ³n al Sol</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19635</link>
		<dc:creator>El Sofista - MisiÃ³n al Sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Una misiÃ³n al Sol es un asunto complicado. Durante 30 aÃ±os los cientÃ­ficos e ingenieros han luchado para desarrollar una nave espacial que pudiera sobrevivir al duro ambiente en las inmediaciones del Sol, pero siempre terminaron en limitaciones insuperables de la tecnologÃ­a o excediendo el presupuesto. Pero ahora  [...]  Fuentes: Nancy Atkinson para Universe Today y EurekAlert!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Una misiÃ³n al Sol es un asunto complicado. Durante 30 aÃ±os los cientÃ­ficos e ingenieros han luchado para desarrollar una nave espacial que pudiera sobrevivir al duro ambiente en las inmediaciones del Sol, pero siempre terminaron en limitaciones insuperables de la tecnologÃ­a o excediendo el presupuesto. Pero ahora  [...]  Fuentes: Nancy Atkinson para Universe Today y EurekAlert!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19634</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve:

1) Those are particle temperatures and relates more to their velocities (i.e. spectroscopic measurements) - keeping in mind the environment of the corona is more tenuous than the best vacuum we can attain here on Earth, it&#039;s not like the probe will be boiled in a thick soup of plasma. The biggest problem will come from the EM radiation. As the intensity of solar light drops off with distance (1/r2), the ravages of the Sun at 4.1 million miles away will heat the probe to a couple of thousand Kelvin. It&#039;s not the solar particles that can cause the damage, it&#039;s the radiation.

2) They will be exposed to the Sun, but during periods when it is at a safe enough distance - during close approach they will be retracted.

3) It might get hit by a CME, but i&#039;m sure the engineers will account for this. This risk can be reduced by sending the probe out at solar minimum, when activity is low...

hope that helps!

Cheers, Ian :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve:</p>
<p>1) Those are particle temperatures and relates more to their velocities (i.e. spectroscopic measurements) &#8211; keeping in mind the environment of the corona is more tenuous than the best vacuum we can attain here on Earth, it&#039;s not like the probe will be boiled in a thick soup of plasma. The biggest problem will come from the EM radiation. As the intensity of solar light drops off with distance (1/r2), the ravages of the Sun at 4.1 million miles away will heat the probe to a couple of thousand Kelvin. It&#039;s not the solar particles that can cause the damage, it&#039;s the radiation.</p>
<p>2) They will be exposed to the Sun, but during periods when it is at a safe enough distance &#8211; during close approach they will be retracted.</p>
<p>3) It might get hit by a CME, but i&#039;m sure the engineers will account for this. This risk can be reduced by sending the probe out at solar minimum, when activity is low&#8230;</p>
<p>hope that helps!</p>
<p>Cheers, Ian <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Atkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer a few questions here:

The Venus flyby is used to shrink the spacecraft&#039;s orbit around the sun.  It&#039;s too early to say what science, if any, would be done at Venus, but a flyby always offers the chance to test out your science instruments.

According to the info available about this missions so far, 2600 degrees is what they are expecting as the highest temps the spacecraft would have to withstand.

The solar arrays would retract or extend as the spacecraft swings toward or away from the sun.

I don&#039;t have data right at my fingertips about the probability of taking a hit from a CME, but it might be out there somewhere on the information superhighway.  Anyone else have time to take a look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer a few questions here:</p>
<p>The Venus flyby is used to shrink the spacecraft&#039;s orbit around the sun.  It&#039;s too early to say what science, if any, would be done at Venus, but a flyby always offers the chance to test out your science instruments.</p>
<p>According to the info available about this missions so far, 2600 degrees is what they are expecting as the highest temps the spacecraft would have to withstand.</p>
<p>The solar arrays would retract or extend as the spacecraft swings toward or away from the sun.</p>
<p>I don&#039;t have data right at my fingertips about the probability of taking a hit from a CME, but it might be out there somewhere on the information superhighway.  Anyone else have time to take a look?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19631</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful to see a mission going deep into the corona. There are so many secrets that can only be uncovered by sending a probe to measure plasma waves and particle interactions &lt;em&gt;in-situ&lt;/em&gt; it&#039;s not funny! This mission would rewrite the solar history books providing a much-needed look into the small-scale interactions to begin understanding the large scale observations. Fantastic!

Whether we are looking at distances in Imperial or SI, this really shouldn&#039;t distract from a wonderful article stuffed full of enthusiasm for this great mission. I think ferlongs per fortnight might be a good call John, as a Brit myself I can even work in inches per fortnight... we&#039;re a dynamic bunch ;)

Oh yes, and Jorge, the Venus flybys will be needed to get the probe up to speed. As it will be getting pretty damned close to the Sun, it will need to be flying VERY fast to get it into a stable orbital trajectory. Will be nice if it can do some science around Venus, but this will most likely be in the form of analysing the interplanetary space rather than doing any planetary observations.

This kind of mission gives me the insentive to get back into solar research!

Nice one Nancy!

Cheers, Ian :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful to see a mission going deep into the corona. There are so many secrets that can only be uncovered by sending a probe to measure plasma waves and particle interactions <em>in-situ</em> it&#039;s not funny! This mission would rewrite the solar history books providing a much-needed look into the small-scale interactions to begin understanding the large scale observations. Fantastic!</p>
<p>Whether we are looking at distances in Imperial or SI, this really shouldn&#039;t distract from a wonderful article stuffed full of enthusiasm for this great mission. I think ferlongs per fortnight might be a good call John, as a Brit myself I can even work in inches per fortnight&#8230; we&#039;re a dynamic bunch <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh yes, and Jorge, the Venus flybys will be needed to get the probe up to speed. As it will be getting pretty damned close to the Sun, it will need to be flying VERY fast to get it into a stable orbital trajectory. Will be nice if it can do some science around Venus, but this will most likely be in the form of analysing the interplanetary space rather than doing any planetary observations.</p>
<p>This kind of mission gives me the insentive to get back into solar research!</p>
<p>Nice one Nancy!</p>
<p>Cheers, Ian <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19630</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>q1: This article states that the craft will actually be within the Sun&#039;s corona.  On the soho site, it says that the corona can be up to 2 million degrees f.  Is the 4.1 million miles far enough away that the 2600 deg f heat shield is enough insulation?

q2: how will the solar panels collect their power if they have to hide behind the heat shield.

q3: is there data as to probability of getting hit by a cme?  (I&#039;m thinking statistics similar to the Wylie data for lighning strikes here on Earth).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>q1: This article states that the craft will actually be within the Sun&#039;s corona.  On the soho site, it says that the corona can be up to 2 million degrees f.  Is the 4.1 million miles far enough away that the 2600 deg f heat shield is enough insulation?</p>
<p>q2: how will the solar panels collect their power if they have to hide behind the heat shield.</p>
<p>q3: is there data as to probability of getting hit by a cme?  (I&#039;m thinking statistics similar to the Wylie data for lighning strikes here on Earth).</p>
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		<title>By: aju</title>
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		<dc:creator>aju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted thiss link in www.surfurls.com</description>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. So here&#039;s a question about the mission: are those Venus flybys just navigational, or are they supposed to generate some Venus science in the process?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. So here&#039;s a question about the mission: are those Venus flybys just navigational, or are they supposed to generate some Venus science in the process?</p>
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		<title>By: Vitor Martins</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19619</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitor Martins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you noticed that no comments about the mission have been posted? And that is a simple fact.</description>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19616</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, if you can&#039;t understand that a blog, such as this one, that writes for the widest possible audience should take care to perform and present routinely data that this widest possible audience will immediately understand, then it&#039;s not me who needs gray matter excersise.

If you used your brain for something other than being a brat, kerouac-wannabe, you might understand this simple fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, if you can&#039;t understand that a blog, such as this one, that writes for the widest possible audience should take care to perform and present routinely data that this widest possible audience will immediately understand, then it&#039;s not me who needs gray matter excersise.</p>
<p>If you used your brain for something other than being a brat, kerouac-wannabe, you might understand this simple fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Kerouac</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19612</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Kerouac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you can spend the time converting the measurements to the standard of your choice and exercise some gray matter in the process.</description>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19610</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)

Thanks.

And, John, don&#039;t you go putting silly ideas in her head, you hear? Behave!</description>
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<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>And, John, don&#039;t you go putting silly ideas in her head, you hear? Behave!</p>
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		<title>By: John Mendenhall</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Mendenhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be worse.  The sight is British.  How about furlongs per fortnight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be worse.  The sight is British.  How about furlongs per fortnight?</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/05/mission-to-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-19601</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miles per second, fahrenheit, pounds, feet, inches... sheesh!

At the very least convert these for the world at large that uses SI. We are actually the VAST majority out here. Not sure about the blog readers, but we might even be also a majority there.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles per second, fahrenheit, pounds, feet, inches&#8230; sheesh!</p>
<p>At the very least convert these for the world at large that uses SI. We are actually the VAST majority out here. Not sure about the blog readers, but we might even be also a majority there.</p>
<p>Please.</p>
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