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	<title>Comments on: Latest News on Apophis:  13 -year-old Boy Corrects NASA&#039;s Estimates of Earth Impact &#8212; Not! (Update)</title>
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		<title>By: Fraser Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fraser Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Kael&#039;thas, you can&#039;t bubble your way out of this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Kael&#039;thas, you can&#039;t bubble your way out of this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: marcellus</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcellus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skyviee, I love you man. I&#039;m cancelling my trip to Borneo. 

No Golf Channel!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skyviee, I love you man. I&#039;m cancelling my trip to Borneo. </p>
<p>No Golf Channel!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kael'thas</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-2/#comment-18429</link>
		<dc:creator>Kael'thas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sorry..... these aren&#039;t the blizz forums? weird...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sorry&#8230;.. these aren&#039;t the blizz forums? weird&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Illidan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Illidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KAEL&#039;THAS!!!!!! YOU&#039;RE SUCH A FREAKIN&#039; MORON, THIS IS LIFE, NOT A GAME!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KAEL&#039;THAS!!!!!! YOU&#039;RE SUCH A FREAKIN&#039; MORON, THIS IS LIFE, NOT A GAME!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kael'thas</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-2/#comment-18427</link>
		<dc:creator>Kael'thas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude we should so totally slap up Power word: Shield on the earth, nothing would hurt us for 15 seconds or until canceled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude we should so totally slap up Power word: Shield on the earth, nothing would hurt us for 15 seconds or until canceled.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Nuno!</description>
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		<title>By: Yael Dragwyla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yael Dragwyla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck --
   Regarding your comment:
   &quot;I agreed with the statement about checking facts when the news involves a potential risk to the population as a general rule, but to be fair, this risk isn&#039;t really that immediate.   2029 is still more than 20 years away, so I can&#039;t imagine anyone reading the incorrect story would have irrationally panicked about the end of the world.  shrug* just my two cents I guess&quot;

The problem isn&#039;t that scientists would panic -- they are the least likely group to do that, and the most likely to check the &quot;facts&quot; given in the original article and then vociferously complain about the lack of such facts.  The problem is the lay public, who, for lack of serious scientific training, might very well panic -- or, after enough hoaxes, might figure whoever it is is crying wolf, and ignore *real* dangers when these are reported.  The scientific community is *not* the only human group in the world, and it is everyone else, billions of people, whose reactions to things like this help determine how they vote and where they want their tax money -- and, potentially, scientific grant money, or lack of it -- invested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck &#8211;<br />
   Regarding your comment:<br />
   &#034;I agreed with the statement about checking facts when the news involves a potential risk to the population as a general rule, but to be fair, this risk isn&#039;t really that immediate.   2029 is still more than 20 years away, so I can&#039;t imagine anyone reading the incorrect story would have irrationally panicked about the end of the world.  shrug* just my two cents I guess&#034;</p>
<p>The problem isn&#039;t that scientists would panic &#8212; they are the least likely group to do that, and the most likely to check the &#034;facts&#034; given in the original article and then vociferously complain about the lack of such facts.  The problem is the lay public, who, for lack of serious scientific training, might very well panic &#8212; or, after enough hoaxes, might figure whoever it is is crying wolf, and ignore *real* dangers when these are reported.  The scientific community is *not* the only human group in the world, and it is everyone else, billions of people, whose reactions to things like this help determine how they vote and where they want their tax money &#8212; and, potentially, scientific grant money, or lack of it &#8212; invested.</p>
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		<title>By: Yael Dragwyla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yael Dragwyla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hans -- you&#039;re spot on about the media, especially the international media, and their rampant anti-Americanism.  Thank heaven we&#039;ve got the blogosphere -- eventually, if the lies are egregious enough, they get hammered flat by the (ahem) pajamahadeen, of whom I am proud to say I am one (out of about two googolzillion bazillion).  And stories like this are like raw steaks thrown to a shark as far as the blogosphere is concerned, the hoax relatively easy to take down, and lots of fun going neener-neener at the perpetrators.  Not so long ago the blogosphere wasn&#039;t even a dream in a programmer&#039;s eye -- and now it&#039;s a world-wide reality.  So hang in there.  Hoaxes will always be perpetrated, and the mainstream media will go for them hook, line, and sinker, especially if it puts the USA in a bad light, but now there&#039;s a powerful hoax/antiAmericanism tool available to fight the good fight:  the pajamahadeen. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans &#8212; you&#039;re spot on about the media, especially the international media, and their rampant anti-Americanism.  Thank heaven we&#039;ve got the blogosphere &#8212; eventually, if the lies are egregious enough, they get hammered flat by the (ahem) pajamahadeen, of whom I am proud to say I am one (out of about two googolzillion bazillion).  And stories like this are like raw steaks thrown to a shark as far as the blogosphere is concerned, the hoax relatively easy to take down, and lots of fun going neener-neener at the perpetrators.  Not so long ago the blogosphere wasn&#039;t even a dream in a programmer&#039;s eye &#8212; and now it&#039;s a world-wide reality.  So hang in there.  Hoaxes will always be perpetrated, and the mainstream media will go for them hook, line, and sinker, especially if it puts the USA in a bad light, but now there&#039;s a powerful hoax/antiAmericanism tool available to fight the good fight:  the pajamahadeen. <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mandie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this article it says the Earth will suffer significant damage, dust will darken the sky indefinitely, it will cause tsunamis etc. but in another article from August 22nd, 2005 it states that it would cause no damage to the Earth, only to the impact site. Is this conclusion based on information we didn&#039;t have in 2005?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this article it says the Earth will suffer significant damage, dust will darken the sky indefinitely, it will cause tsunamis etc. but in another article from August 22nd, 2005 it states that it would cause no damage to the Earth, only to the impact site. Is this conclusion based on information we didn&#039;t have in 2005?</p>
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		<title>By: Corvidae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corvidae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lldiaz, the Xprize contests haven&#039;t even reached orbit.  They have no significant payload capacity, and no ability to escape earths gravity to reach the moon or further out.

Nasa on the other hand is heading back to the moon just after their probe checks out Pluto on it&#039;s way to the Oort cloud.  And if things go smoothly, we&#039;ll have another probe on Mars very soon as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lldiaz, the Xprize contests haven&#039;t even reached orbit.  They have no significant payload capacity, and no ability to escape earths gravity to reach the moon or further out.</p>
<p>Nasa on the other hand is heading back to the moon just after their probe checks out Pluto on it&#039;s way to the Oort cloud.  And if things go smoothly, we&#039;ll have another probe on Mars very soon as well.</p>
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		<title>By: giovanni</title>
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		<dc:creator>giovanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one think is certain a major asteroid will eventually  enter in collision with planet earth whether its 2029  or a million years from then  and whether it wipes out  every form of life from the planet or not  it wont make a wink of difference  mother earth will continue revolving aroud its sun  once a solar year  around itself and through its cycle of the four seasons unconcerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one think is certain a major asteroid will eventually  enter in collision with planet earth whether its 2029  or a million years from then  and whether it wipes out  every form of life from the planet or not  it wont make a wink of difference  mother earth will continue revolving aroud its sun  once a solar year  around itself and through its cycle of the four seasons unconcerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agreed with the statement about checking facts when the news involves a potential risk to the population as a general rule, but to be fair, this risk isn&#039;t really that immediate. 

2029 is still more than 20 years away, so I can&#039;t imagine anyone reading the incorrect story would have irrationally panicked about the end of the world.

*shrug* just my two cents I guess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agreed with the statement about checking facts when the news involves a potential risk to the population as a general rule, but to be fair, this risk isn&#039;t really that immediate. </p>
<p>2029 is still more than 20 years away, so I can&#039;t imagine anyone reading the incorrect story would have irrationally panicked about the end of the world.</p>
<p>*shrug* just my two cents I guess</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Cyberjack &amp; Steve;

An object with an estimated mass of 4.6Ã—1010 kg and travelling around 30,000km an hour hitting the ocean will do more than burn up a significant amount of water.  It will bore all the way through to the bottom and creat a large crater.  That&#039;s where the massive amount of dust comes from.

Dana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Cyberjack &amp; Steve;</p>
<p>An object with an estimated mass of 4.6Ã—1010 kg and travelling around 30,000km an hour hitting the ocean will do more than burn up a significant amount of water.  It will bore all the way through to the bottom and creat a large crater.  That&#039;s where the massive amount of dust comes from.</p>
<p>Dana</p>
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		<title>By: Nuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, if you&#039;re writing a article based on another news article, who can blame you to put some faith on the job that others have already done?

I am always more prone to trust what i read (specialy in Universe Today) than to question everything.

Fraser is doing a very good job.

Keep it up.

Nuno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, if you&#039;re writing a article based on another news article, who can blame you to put some faith on the job that others have already done?</p>
<p>I am always more prone to trust what i read (specialy in Universe Today) than to question everything.</p>
<p>Fraser is doing a very good job.</p>
<p>Keep it up.</p>
<p>Nuno</p>
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		<title>By: Nuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When news involve announcement of potential risk to some population, it&#039;s irresponsible not to check everything.

From time to time inacuracies occur and thus disagreeing calculations, it&#039;s the way that the issue was handled that was wrong.

Nowadays the means of comunication can avoid these kind of public messes, it&#039;s a matter of will... and being serious.

Nuno G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When news involve announcement of potential risk to some population, it&#039;s irresponsible not to check everything.</p>
<p>From time to time inacuracies occur and thus disagreeing calculations, it&#039;s the way that the issue was handled that was wrong.</p>
<p>Nowadays the means of comunication can avoid these kind of public messes, it&#039;s a matter of will&#8230; and being serious.</p>
<p>Nuno G</p>
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		<title>By: DaveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure I speak for many regular readers of UT when I say that I would rather read new stories as they come out, at the risk of them being subsequently shown to be inaccurate in some way - whereupon a correction can be made.

I trust Fraser and the team to make the editorial judgements in these cases - and I think they do a pretty good job 99.9% of the time. 

It&#039;s not like I&#039;m paying for these news stories, but they certainly keep me informed and entertained during my coffee break. 

Good work guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sure I speak for many regular readers of UT when I say that I would rather read new stories as they come out, at the risk of them being subsequently shown to be inaccurate in some way &#8211; whereupon a correction can be made.</p>
<p>I trust Fraser and the team to make the editorial judgements in these cases &#8211; and I think they do a pretty good job 99.9% of the time. </p>
<p>It&#039;s not like I&#039;m paying for these news stories, but they certainly keep me informed and entertained during my coffee break. </p>
<p>Good work guys</p>
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		<title>By: Hans-Peter Dollhopf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans-Peter Dollhopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can exactly tell you how things like this can happen.


1. It all starts with a kind of prejudice  called anti-Americanism. 

2. A simple equation was applied: NASA = USA.

3. This Anti-Americanism implies that American institutions are liars. 

4. And  to an adept the above point #3 is so obvious that even a child can see it.

5. So the conclusion follows that the 13 year old child is right and therefore the &quot;free&quot; German press  is commited to publish this without any further investigation.


The free press is an assembly line for such bad behaviour. On April, 10th the German TV channel ARD broadcasted a story on drug addicts. But the interviews were faked by the interviewed person which afterwards identified himself as member of a group called &quot;Kommando Tito von Hardenberg&quot;. This case also made it obvious for all and everybody how rotten the media really are. The last severe case that happened in Germany a view month ago is analyzed in the book &quot;Der Fall Eva Herman. Hexenjagd in den Medien&quot; by Arne Hoffmann. But worse, even if caught, the campaign makers stick togehter and hold their sight of the world up against reality as long as even possible. Like conspirators.

While in the past the &quot;BILD&quot; newspaper was the embodiment of an intentionally lying and cheating right press, meanwhile the majority of the personal of the media considers itself as left-winged. So the victim of the &quot;free&quot; press are still the same:  the truth and the public. Only the intentions have changed a little bit. 

I would recommend to obligate everyone who starts working for the press or any other media to take part in an at least one year training in Karl Popper&#039;s method of critical rationalism.


Recommendation : &quot;Flat Earth News: An Award-winning Reporter Exposes Falsehood, Distortion and Propaganda in the Global Media&quot; by Nick Davis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can exactly tell you how things like this can happen.</p>
<p>1. It all starts with a kind of prejudice  called anti-Americanism. </p>
<p>2. A simple equation was applied: NASA = USA.</p>
<p>3. This Anti-Americanism implies that American institutions are liars. </p>
<p>4. And  to an adept the above point #3 is so obvious that even a child can see it.</p>
<p>5. So the conclusion follows that the 13 year old child is right and therefore the &#034;free&#034; German press  is commited to publish this without any further investigation.</p>
<p>The free press is an assembly line for such bad behaviour. On April, 10th the German TV channel ARD broadcasted a story on drug addicts. But the interviews were faked by the interviewed person which afterwards identified himself as member of a group called &#034;Kommando Tito von Hardenberg&#034;. This case also made it obvious for all and everybody how rotten the media really are. The last severe case that happened in Germany a view month ago is analyzed in the book &#034;Der Fall Eva Herman. Hexenjagd in den Medien&#034; by Arne Hoffmann. But worse, even if caught, the campaign makers stick togehter and hold their sight of the world up against reality as long as even possible. Like conspirators.</p>
<p>While in the past the &#034;BILD&#034; newspaper was the embodiment of an intentionally lying and cheating right press, meanwhile the majority of the personal of the media considers itself as left-winged. So the victim of the &#034;free&#034; press are still the same:  the truth and the public. Only the intentions have changed a little bit. </p>
<p>I would recommend to obligate everyone who starts working for the press or any other media to take part in an at least one year training in Karl Popper&#039;s method of critical rationalism.</p>
<p>Recommendation : &#034;Flat Earth News: An Award-winning Reporter Exposes Falsehood, Distortion and Propaganda in the Global Media&#034; by Nick Davis.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidRavenMoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidRavenMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wouldn&#039;t it be fun to catch it and put it in orbit around the moon?&quot;

That would be cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Wouldn&#039;t it be fun to catch it and put it in orbit around the moon?&#034;</p>
<p>That would be cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-18348</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraser Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continuous editorial oversight would be a wonderful thing. I&#039;d love to have an army of Harvard-trained fact checkers calling people and making sure we&#039;ve got every thing exactly correct. But I can&#039;t afford it. I&#039;m one guy, working from his kitchen table in Vancouver - and a few freelancers helping out - making less money than almost any entry-level job you can imagine. 

We&#039;re doing the best job that we can with the resources we have. Obviously, in hindsight, it would have been best to call NASA, verify the story, and scoop the wires with a good dose of skepticism and reality. Trust me, Nancy&#039;s BS detector got ratcheted up today. But I&#039;m going to keep on trusting the team to follow their instincts on stories and hone their skills. And if UT&#039;s reputation needs to take a beating during that process, so be it.

We made a mistake, got caught up in the hoopla, and we worked quickly to fix it and remain transparent with the readers. And it all happened autonomously by a responsible writer maintaining her journalistic integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuous editorial oversight would be a wonderful thing. I&#039;d love to have an army of Harvard-trained fact checkers calling people and making sure we&#039;ve got every thing exactly correct. But I can&#039;t afford it. I&#039;m one guy, working from his kitchen table in Vancouver &#8211; and a few freelancers helping out &#8211; making less money than almost any entry-level job you can imagine. </p>
<p>We&#039;re doing the best job that we can with the resources we have. Obviously, in hindsight, it would have been best to call NASA, verify the story, and scoop the wires with a good dose of skepticism and reality. Trust me, Nancy&#039;s BS detector got ratcheted up today. But I&#039;m going to keep on trusting the team to follow their instincts on stories and hone their skills. And if UT&#039;s reputation needs to take a beating during that process, so be it.</p>
<p>We made a mistake, got caught up in the hoopla, and we worked quickly to fix it and remain transparent with the readers. And it all happened autonomously by a responsible writer maintaining her journalistic integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Skivee</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-18339</link>
		<dc:creator>Skivee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to continue poking that dead horse:
 If the kid supposed that   the asteroid would be deflected by impacts with geo-synchronous satelites  Suppose that Apophis&quot; is about 320 m (1150 ft) long and an estimated mass of 4.6Ã—1010 kg&quot; and your little Comsat 98WestB weighs in at a puny, bully atracting ten metric tonnes The closure speed is many thousands of kilometers per hour.. There would be consequences if such a collision occured, but they will mostly be that folks in Borneo can&#039;t see the Golf Channel and the Simpsons.
 The piffling amount of inertia given up by Apophis would undetectable.
 Here&#039;s a thought? Why Not Catch It?
Wouldn&#039;t it be fun to catch it and put it in orbit around the moon? Errr...money being no object, of course, The perfect tourist destination, scientist&#039;s playground, social icon, mining asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to continue poking that dead horse:<br />
 If the kid supposed that   the asteroid would be deflected by impacts with geo-synchronous satelites  Suppose that Apophis&#034; is about 320 m (1150 ft) long and an estimated mass of 4.6Ã—1010 kg&#034; and your little Comsat 98WestB weighs in at a puny, bully atracting ten metric tonnes The closure speed is many thousands of kilometers per hour.. There would be consequences if such a collision occured, but they will mostly be that folks in Borneo can&#039;t see the Golf Channel and the Simpsons.<br />
 The piffling amount of inertia given up by Apophis would undetectable.<br />
 Here&#039;s a thought? Why Not Catch It?<br />
Wouldn&#039;t it be fun to catch it and put it in orbit around the moon? Errr&#8230;money being no object, of course, The perfect tourist destination, scientist&#039;s playground, social icon, mining asset.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-18319</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, ours &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a hectic business - but when a wire story wants you to believe that the impact probability of a pretty big asteroid has suddenly jumped up by a factor 100, &lt;i&gt;with NASA concurring&lt;/i&gt;, wouldn&#039;t the first thing you do is check the actual &lt;a href=&quot;http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/a99942.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public NASA page&lt;/a&gt; which carries these numbers?

I did that yesterday, the number was the old, low, one, so I sent one e-mail to the NEO Office, and within an hour or so I had Don Yeomans&#039; statement. The only reason I didn&#039;t post it yesterday was that ... I just couldn&#039;t imagine in my wildest dreams that some %$$$%$ international news agency would pick up a story from a local German paper and broadcast it to the world without checking anything about its veracity.

@ Fraser, you are in the task group for the IYA &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.astronomy2009.org/cornerstone-projects-mainmenu-80/the-portal-to-the-universe-mainmenu-85.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Portal to the Universe&lt;/a&gt; (as am I): Don&#039;t today&#039;s events make it obvious that &lt;i&gt;considerable&lt;/i&gt; editorial oversight is necessary to run such a system and that you cannot rely on it working autonomously as was once hoped?

By the way, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008/apr/HQ_08103_student_asteroid_calculations.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brief NASA statement&lt;/a&gt; - from Headquarters! - is now out ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, ours <i>is</i> a hectic business &#8211; but when a wire story wants you to believe that the impact probability of a pretty big asteroid has suddenly jumped up by a factor 100, <i>with NASA concurring</i>, wouldn&#039;t the first thing you do is check the actual <a href="http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/a99942.html" rel="nofollow">public NASA page</a> which carries these numbers?</p>
<p>I did that yesterday, the number was the old, low, one, so I sent one e-mail to the NEO Office, and within an hour or so I had Don Yeomans&#039; statement. The only reason I didn&#039;t post it yesterday was that &#8230; I just couldn&#039;t imagine in my wildest dreams that some %$$$%$ international news agency would pick up a story from a local German paper and broadcast it to the world without checking anything about its veracity.</p>
<p>@ Fraser, you are in the task group for the IYA <a href="http://www.astronomy2009.org/cornerstone-projects-mainmenu-80/the-portal-to-the-universe-mainmenu-85.html" rel="nofollow">Portal to the Universe</a> (as am I): Don&#039;t today&#039;s events make it obvious that <i>considerable</i> editorial oversight is necessary to run such a system and that you cannot rely on it working autonomously as was once hoped?</p>
<p>By the way, a <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008/apr/HQ_08103_student_asteroid_calculations.html" rel="nofollow">brief NASA statement</a> &#8211; from Headquarters! &#8211; is now out &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Cyberjack,
Im not sure how familiar you are with impacts, but regardless of where a meteorite hits, there will be dust.

An object travelling around 30,000km an hour hitting the ocean will burn up a significant amount of water, but in that time, at that speed, the meteor breaks up as well.

Consider it like human jumping without a parachute.  If he hits concrete, he goes splat, and at terminal velocity hitting water, you get a splat like concrete with a bit more give.  Im not sure on the calcs of all this, but there is enough force being an impact to boil the water, which will in turn eject dust from the meteorite into the atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Cyberjack,<br />
Im not sure how familiar you are with impacts, but regardless of where a meteorite hits, there will be dust.</p>
<p>An object travelling around 30,000km an hour hitting the ocean will burn up a significant amount of water, but in that time, at that speed, the meteor breaks up as well.</p>
<p>Consider it like human jumping without a parachute.  If he hits concrete, he goes splat, and at terminal velocity hitting water, you get a splat like concrete with a bit more give.  Im not sure on the calcs of all this, but there is enough force being an impact to boil the water, which will in turn eject dust from the meteorite into the atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-18308</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the school:
  http://www.humboldtgym.de/modules/wettbewerbe.wettbewerbe.htm#jforscht


And about the event at the 7th of march 2008:
 
http://bildungsklick.de/pm/58947/73-schuelerinnen-und-schueler-erfolgreich-bei-den-regionalwettbewerben-jugend-forscht/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the school:<br />
  <a href="http://www.humboldtgym.de/modules/wettbewerbe.wettbewerbe.htm#jforscht" rel="nofollow">http://www.humboldtgym.de/modules/wettbewerbe.wettbewerbe.htm#jforscht</a></p>
<p>And about the event at the 7th of march 2008:</p>
<p><a href="http://bildungsklick.de/pm/58947/73-schuelerinnen-und-schueler-erfolgreich-bei-den-regionalwettbewerben-jugend-forscht/" rel="nofollow">http://bildungsklick.de/pm/58947/73-schuelerinnen-und-schueler-erfolgreich-bei-den-regionalwettbewerben-jugend-forscht/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-18306</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the original article (in german) in &quot;Potsdamer Neueste Nachrichten&quot;:

http://www.pnn.de/Pubs/potsdam/pageviewer.asp?TextID=16107

&quot;Bei seinen Berechnungen kam er auf eine Einschlagswahrscheinlichkeit von eins zu 450 und die NASA lieÃŸ der EuropÃ¤ischen Raumfahrt-Agentur ESA ausrichten, der Junge aus Potsdam habe recht.&quot;

I&#039;m not so sure about my translation, but it&#039;s something like:
   His calculations resulted in a probability of 1 to 450 and the NASA let the ESA report, that the boy from Potsdam were right.

Another reference to the &#039;Regionalausscheid&#039; &quot;Jugend forscht&quot;:
  http://archiv.tagesspiegel.de/archiv/08.03.2008/3893958.pnn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the original article (in german) in &#034;Potsdamer Neueste Nachrichten&#034;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pnn.de/Pubs/potsdam/pageviewer.asp?TextID=16107" rel="nofollow">http://www.pnn.de/Pubs/potsdam/pageviewer.asp?TextID=16107</a></p>
<p>&#034;Bei seinen Berechnungen kam er auf eine Einschlagswahrscheinlichkeit von eins zu 450 und die NASA lieÃŸ der EuropÃ¤ischen Raumfahrt-Agentur ESA ausrichten, der Junge aus Potsdam habe recht.&#034;</p>
<p>I&#039;m not so sure about my translation, but it&#039;s something like:<br />
   His calculations resulted in a probability of 1 to 450 and the NASA let the ESA report, that the boy from Potsdam were right.</p>
<p>Another reference to the &#039;Regionalausscheid&#039; &#034;Jugend forscht&#034;:<br />
  <a href="http://archiv.tagesspiegel.de/archiv/08.03.2008/3893958.pnn" rel="nofollow">http://archiv.tagesspiegel.de/archiv/08.03.2008/3893958.pnn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fraser Cain</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/16/latest-news-on-apophis-13-year-old-boy-corrects-nasas-estimates-of-earth-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-18294</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraser Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the advantage of the Internet. We can update the story and put things right as quickly as possible. We&#039;re pretty skeptical people, but there are some sources that we usually feel we can trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the advantage of the Internet. We can update the story and put things right as quickly as possible. We&#039;re pretty skeptical people, but there are some sources that we usually feel we can trust.</p>
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