Comments on: UK "Time Machine" Reveals The Formation Of Distant Galaxies http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/ Space and astronomy news Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:17:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Wolfgang Hebel http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-28555 Wolfgang Hebel Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:16:50 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-28555 An updatedy version of my study entitled "A different view on cosmic redshift" has been published under the aforementioned website, on August 1, 2008. An updatedy version of my study entitled "A different view on cosmic redshift" has been published under the aforementioned website, on August 1, 2008.

]]> By: Wolfgang HEBEL http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-18059 Wolfgang HEBEL Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:35:01 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-18059 I further show in my paper that the cosmic redshift ratio corresponds to z=H/c . r and that the distance of a given cosmic radiation source corresponds to r=c/H . ln(z+1). This admits considering cosmic distances which largely exceed the postulated age of the Universe limited at ~ 14 billion lightyears according to the Big Bang hypothesis. There is no theoretical limit of the dimension of the Universe. I further show in my paper that the cosmic redshift ratio corresponds to z=H/c . r and that the distance of a given cosmic radiation source corresponds to r=c/H . ln(z+1). This admits considering cosmic distances which largely exceed the postulated age of the Universe limited at ~ 14 billion lightyears according to the Big Bang hypothesis. There is no theoretical limit of the dimension of the Universe.

]]> By: Wolfgang HEBEL http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-18058 Wolfgang HEBEL Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:03:35 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-18058 In my paper I explaIn that the Hubble constant (~70 km/s per megaparsec) divided by the velocity of light (H*) represents a cosmic photon absorption coefficient amounting to 0.00023 per megaparesec or 0.00007 per million lightyears. This implies that we usually cannot look deeper into the Universe than about 14 billion lightyears, except in case of supernova explosions producing much higher surface temperatures of the cosmic radiation source than ordinary stars or galaxies. In my paper I explaIn that the Hubble constant (~70 km/s per megaparsec) divided by the velocity of light (H*) represents a cosmic photon absorption coefficient amounting to 0.00023 per megaparesec or 0.00007 per million lightyears. This implies that we usually cannot look deeper into the Universe than about 14 billion lightyears, except in case of supernova explosions producing much higher surface temperatures of the cosmic radiation source than ordinary stars or galaxies.

]]> By: Wolfgang HEBEL http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-18053 Wolfgang HEBEL Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:57:43 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-18053 My recent paper deals with "Cosmic redshift, a phenomenon of Quantum Elexctrodynamics" My recent paper deals with "Cosmic redshift, a phenomenon of Quantum Elexctrodynamics"

]]> By: Harin http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17745 Harin Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:48:36 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17745 Peter, we are looking at them as they would have appeared 10 billion years ago. THe same way when they look at us today, we appear in ancient light. But by now probably these ancient galaxies have slipped beyong the horizon and the light they emit today would never ever make it to us. Peter, we are looking at them as they would have appeared 10 billion years ago. THe same way when they look at us today, we appear in ancient light.

But by now probably these ancient galaxies have slipped beyong the horizon and the light they emit today would never ever make it to us.

]]> By: Pedro http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17687 Pedro Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:16:58 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17687 Awsome! Just think: only a genaration (or two) ago we didn't know that there were galaxies. Today we're looking at a 10 billion year old one!!! I'm anxious to see what more wonders these guys will have to show to us in 5 or 10 years!! We are almost reaching the final horizon. By th way, i believe that sooner or later someone, somehow, will find a way to look beyond the actual theorized visible limit. I just hope that that happen in my life time!! Awsome!

Just think:
only a genaration (or two) ago we didn't know that there were galaxies. Today we're looking at a 10 billion year old one!!!

I'm anxious to see what more wonders these guys will have to show to us in 5 or 10 years!! We are almost reaching the final horizon.

By th way, i believe that sooner or later someone, somehow, will find a way to look beyond the actual theorized visible limit.

I just hope that that happen in my life time!!

]]> By: Laurel http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17473 Laurel Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:37 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17473 I like the way your thinking Peter. Have you read the Holographic Universe. by Michael Talbot? I met a man who said something that changed my idea of time. He said, when we look to the Night sky we could say, " Aren't We beautiful". Perhaps, We are just looking at who, and where, we were at a different place in time. HMMM... I like the way your thinking Peter. Have you read the Holographic Universe. by Michael Talbot? I met a man who said something that changed my idea of time. He said, when we look to the Night sky we could say, " Aren't We beautiful". Perhaps, We are just looking at who, and where, we were at a different place in time. HMMM…

]]> By: Peter K http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17472 Peter K Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:44:34 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17472 Here's a question...if we look at those galaxies and say they were 10 billion years ago, wouldn't they be looking at us and saying the same thing? Whose to say who is the older? Isn't that just a bias on our part? Here's a question…if we look at those galaxies and say they were 10 billion years ago, wouldn't they be looking at us and saying the same thing? Whose to say who is the older? Isn't that just a bias on our part?

]]> By: jerry http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17444 jerry Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:23:15 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17444 "UK astronomers have compiled data from the United Kingdom Infrared Telescope (UKIRT) in Hawaii and their results are nothing less than astounding." Astounding in what way? I can buy an astounding Chia pet by dialing 1-800-chia pet and having my visa card ready. It is astounding to see such large galaxies at such great distances. It is even more astounding if they are 'mature'...are they? "UK astronomers have compiled data from the United Kingdom Infrared Telescope (UKIRT) in Hawaii and their results are nothing less than astounding."

Astounding in what way? I can buy an astounding Chia pet by dialing 1-800-chia pet and having my visa card ready.

It is astounding to see such large galaxies at such great distances. It is even more astounding if they are 'mature'…are they?

]]> By: Salva http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17424 Salva Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:24:38 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17424 Our Visible Universe is only a very little portion of the real 'Universe'...a 3-dimensional sheet of a 11(?)-dimensional one. So, don't worry...and lets the search for the true to continue until the end of......The Universe! Our Visible Universe is only a very little portion of the real 'Universe'…a 3-dimensional sheet of a 11(?)-dimensional one. So, don't worry…and lets the search for the true to continue until the end of……The Universe!

]]> By: giovanni http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17421 giovanni Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:03:43 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17421 the more i read about the universe the more i find myself convinced that the whole universe is round and circling around the unknown further it could veri well be that this is not the only one it could very well be many others. leading to infinity. the more i read about the universe the more i find myself convinced that the whole universe is round and circling around the unknown further it could veri well be that this is not the only one it could very well be many others. leading to infinity.

]]> By: alokmohan http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17413 alokmohan Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:00:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17413 Arp narlikar theory.Give the link please. Arp narlikar theory.Give the link please.

]]> By: RobbiNewman http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17406 RobbiNewman Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:11:05 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17406 The mere concept of the universe coming into existence from 'nothing' has never sat well with me. I am sure we will eventually see that nothing is something, and beyond that something is something else. Pity we only 'live' for about sixty years on average....not much time to get to furthest hill to see into the next valley...or plain...or sea...or whatever..... It sure is a good look tho....lol The mere concept of the universe coming into existence from 'nothing' has never sat well with me.

I am sure we will eventually see that nothing is something, and beyond that something is something else.

Pity we only 'live' for about sixty years on average….not much time to get to furthest hill to see into the next valley…or plain…or sea…or whatever…..

It sure is a good look tho….lol

]]> By: John M. Kulick http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17400 John M. Kulick Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:17:17 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17400 The current results apparently have not been published to the internet yet, but their 2006 work is available. http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0608428 Snowflake The current results apparently have not been published to the internet yet, but their 2006 work is available.

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0608428

Snowflake

]]> By: Patrick http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17381 Patrick Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:06:22 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17381 So -- What's the measured redshift (z value)of these observations? So — What's the measured redshift (z value)of these observations?

]]> By: Mikel http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17360 Mikel Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:08:33 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17360 To Wolfgang... Not to mention the other viable alternatives, such as the Arp/Narlikar theory, etc. Mikel To Wolfgang…

Not to mention the other viable alternatives, such as the Arp/Narlikar theory, etc.

Mikel

]]> By: Wolfgang HEBEL http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17354 Wolfgang HEBEL Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:28:34 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17354 The well-known Doppler effect of wave propagation is the principal argument of our usual view of an expanding Universe. However, a similar redshift effect of cosmic radiation results from the loss of photons by absorption onto celestial bodies. Re: My study "The Mystery of Life", www.dwv-net.de, ISBN 978.3.935176.73.6. This alternative redshift mechanism casts doubt on our usual view of the universe. The well-known Doppler effect of wave propagation is the principal argument of our usual view of an expanding Universe. However, a similar redshift effect of cosmic radiation results from the loss of photons by absorption onto celestial bodies. Re: My study "The Mystery of Life", http://www.dwv-net.de, ISBN 978.3.935176.73.6. This alternative redshift mechanism casts doubt on our usual view of the universe.

]]> By: Don Alexander http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/comment-page-1/#comment-17352 Don Alexander Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:21:05 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/uk-time-machine-reveals-the-formation-of-distant-galaxies/#comment-17352 Now, what interests ME as a professional astronomer is: what are the limiting magnitudes? Which bands? How much integration time? Now, what interests ME as a professional astronomer is: what are the limiting magnitudes? Which bands? How much integration time?

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