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	<title>Comments on: Star Formation Extinguished by Quasars</title>
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		<title>By: alokmohan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/star-formation-extinguished-by-quasars/comment-page-1/#comment-17415</link>
		<dc:creator>alokmohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noe   we  are    fascinated   by  quasar.</description>
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		<title>By: pradipta</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/star-formation-extinguished-by-quasars/comment-page-1/#comment-17396</link>
		<dc:creator>pradipta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the ancestral time the world space research established on blind theory. We although demand that we have discovered lots of mysteries viz. milk ways, galaxies, nebulas, white drafts, black holes etcs., in real they are creation of space mirror. SPACE MIRROR is the truth and hidden mystery of the space. Since we are unknown about space mirror, our research has diverted from original truth and we have spent lots of time and money behind the false truth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the ancestral time the world space research established on blind theory. We although demand that we have discovered lots of mysteries viz. milk ways, galaxies, nebulas, white drafts, black holes etcs., in real they are creation of space mirror. SPACE MIRROR is the truth and hidden mystery of the space. Since we are unknown about space mirror, our research has diverted from original truth and we have spent lots of time and money behind the false truth.<br />
Therefore it invites you to visit <a href="http://www.spacemirrormystery.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.spacemirrormystery.com</a> and if you find the relevancy in contains of the web please make the news items for prosperous space research.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem that there could be several misconceptions here, probably of the author.  The information can make sense is interpreted right.

It makes sense a quasar could blow out the gas and dust away from the galaxy, cleaning house and eliminating the raw materials necessary for the creation of new stars.  However, there are still old stars there and if the quasar phase lasts a shorter time than the lifetime of supermassive stars - a few million years, then there will be those large stars that go supernova, and smaller stars that ejected planetary nebulae and solar wind particles from most all stars that will reseed the galaxy with star froming material.  

It&#039;s then probable that the material will gravitationally clump and be pushed this way and that by additional supernovae and reestablish star formation, at least in the disk of the spiral galaxy.

Note that the milky way - our galaxy has about a 3.7million solar mass BH.  It has globular clusters in the halo that appear to be about 10 billion years old and should have had this AGN quasar period.  Yet, we see the sun as about 5 billion years old and we see plenty of galactic smog (gas and dust) and we obviously see ongoing star formation, from some in the first phases to the existance of very high massive stars that have lifetimes far shorter than the time since the dinosaurs went extinct.  

All of this local evidence refutes the basic notions of the article unless one adds the notion that the stars are reseeding the galaxay and forcing the return of star formation.  You&#039;ll note the sun is not a first generation star nor probably even a second or third generation one.  The material the sun formed from was ejected by earlier stars.

Since ellipticals evidently contain similar sized supermassive BHs and have no modern star formation (and no significan amount of interstellar dust and gas (and the same goes for globular clusters), it is possible that AGN and quasars could have gone on inside there too and that perhaps there were not sufficient numbers of very massive stars present to reseed - or perhaps the density of stars was so high in these that forming conditions could no longer exist after the first stars were created - or perhaps that the AGN / quasar phase happened shortly after the very massive stars went supernova.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that there could be several misconceptions here, probably of the author.  The information can make sense is interpreted right.</p>
<p>It makes sense a quasar could blow out the gas and dust away from the galaxy, cleaning house and eliminating the raw materials necessary for the creation of new stars.  However, there are still old stars there and if the quasar phase lasts a shorter time than the lifetime of supermassive stars &#8211; a few million years, then there will be those large stars that go supernova, and smaller stars that ejected planetary nebulae and solar wind particles from most all stars that will reseed the galaxy with star froming material.  </p>
<p>It&#039;s then probable that the material will gravitationally clump and be pushed this way and that by additional supernovae and reestablish star formation, at least in the disk of the spiral galaxy.</p>
<p>Note that the milky way &#8211; our galaxy has about a 3.7million solar mass BH.  It has globular clusters in the halo that appear to be about 10 billion years old and should have had this AGN quasar period.  Yet, we see the sun as about 5 billion years old and we see plenty of galactic smog (gas and dust) and we obviously see ongoing star formation, from some in the first phases to the existance of very high massive stars that have lifetimes far shorter than the time since the dinosaurs went extinct.  </p>
<p>All of this local evidence refutes the basic notions of the article unless one adds the notion that the stars are reseeding the galaxay and forcing the return of star formation.  You&#039;ll note the sun is not a first generation star nor probably even a second or third generation one.  The material the sun formed from was ejected by earlier stars.</p>
<p>Since ellipticals evidently contain similar sized supermassive BHs and have no modern star formation (and no significan amount of interstellar dust and gas (and the same goes for globular clusters), it is possible that AGN and quasars could have gone on inside there too and that perhaps there were not sufficient numbers of very massive stars present to reseed &#8211; or perhaps the density of stars was so high in these that forming conditions could no longer exist after the first stars were created &#8211; or perhaps that the AGN / quasar phase happened shortly after the very massive stars went supernova.</p>
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		<title>By: Yael Dragwyla</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/04/star-formation-extinguished-by-quasars/comment-page-1/#comment-17372</link>
		<dc:creator>Yael Dragwyla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t necessarily true that star formation is over right after the quasar phase.  When two galaxies interact gravitational, giant tidal tails of gas and dust will trail out from one or more of the galaxies involved, and these are often seen to be replete with star formation.  Another case in which runaway generalizations can lead to misunderstandings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#039;t necessarily true that star formation is over right after the quasar phase.  When two galaxies interact gravitational, giant tidal tails of gas and dust will trail out from one or more of the galaxies involved, and these are often seen to be replete with star formation.  Another case in which runaway generalizations can lead to misunderstandings.</p>
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		<title>By: NoAstronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoAstronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have thought it was the other way round - you can&#039;t have a large bulge unless you have a super-massive black hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have thought it was the other way round &#8211; you can&#039;t have a large bulge unless you have a super-massive black hole.</p>
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		<title>By: pbh</title>
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		<dc:creator>pbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Without a large classical bulge in the centre, supermassive black holes that drive the AGN are not possible.&quot;

That&#039;s an oversimplification.  The dwarf Seyfert NGC 4395 has a BH, but no bulge, and other likely examples are known.  Maybe they mean that central BHs don&#039;t get &quot;supermassive&quot; unless you have a large classical bulge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Without a large classical bulge in the centre, supermassive black holes that drive the AGN are not possible.&#034;</p>
<p>That&#039;s an oversimplification.  The dwarf Seyfert NGC 4395 has a BH, but no bulge, and other likely examples are known.  Maybe they mean that central BHs don&#039;t get &#034;supermassive&#034; unless you have a large classical bulge.</p>
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