http://penshorn.com/2008/05/11/attention-activists–please-do-not-use-the-term-global-warming.aspx

but i dont know if global warming exists

but i agree
there is no such thing as global warming!!!

Also, since when can the IPCC be considered a proper scientific body when so many of the names involved with it have actually withdrawn themselves from it? More science, less politics on the blog, please.

Also Alex, thanks for the link. I was able to find similar ones, but the news mentioned it again, and the research was analyzed by someone named Jarraud. I have found several of his papers, but none having to do with the cooling over 10 years.

That is good info for all of you who have walnut trees in your yard and don't like the mess from when they drop. Collect them, take them out to the country, feed your little furry friends and reduce carbon.

They can even get the trees for free by joining the Arbor Day Foundation.org.

If we could only collect the nuts this issue is shaking out of the trees and plant them we could get several more acres planted, a much better contribution.

This is the time of year in the northern hemisphere to plant trees. The hardest thing about actually doing that is to get up off your dead ass, get out the door, spend money, transport the trees to the site, and then whack 'em in deep, straight and tight.

You have to make sure the roots don't have air pockets so that the hair roots that the trees get their initial sustanance don't dry out.

You also have to FOLLOW UP on your plantings to make sure the weeds don't choke out your trees. Chemical or hand weeding is a must with seedlings less than 3 or 4 feet tall.

Make sure you shoot all the deer and rabbits that are a threat to your new seedlings, or at least spend enough time around them that the woodland critters won't ruin your efforts. If you can get your trees to survive two years and get above the browse line of the deer, they will probably make it.

It is something to think about while you are sipping latte and wondering who you are going to spew your liberal venom on next.

One Globel Warming Sceptic…

von Dawson's Express

PS Bring back Steam Trains!!!!

Another study concluded that man's contribution to global warming is 0.11%. Why is 0.5% insignificant, and 0.11% huge. There is some illogical thinking here.

I believe I have come up with the only viable solution to the global warming problem and to our future energy needs. Please bear with me as I lay the ground work for your understanding of the conceptual principles by which this machine will function and how the physical actions of this machine will function to benefit our world and oceans.

Electrolysis is the process of using electricity to split water molecules into Hydrogen and Oxygen gases. If this were accomplished at the bottom of the ocean (25,000 ft.), the gases would rise for 20 minutes and produce a constant state of lift equal to about 9 lbs. per gallon of air produced.

Thus we are in need of a system to catch this gas and the lifting force it will create. If we dropped a cement block to the bottom of the ocean and attached a 25,000 ft. electrical cable to carry the electricity to the bottom of the ocean,we could create these gases.

We could then use air bags to float chains or cables in the ocean and then attach gear stems into this cable run. we will wrap these gear stems with wide nylon sheeting or cable connectors to create a pulley system and then attach conical-shaped buckets to the pulley run to catch the air and convert this lifting force to torque.

At the top of each pulley run the gas will released over the top and we will catch this gas in a hood vent and direct it into the next cable run above it, thus we can stack these pulley runs from the bottom of the ocean to the top.

From 25,000 ft. this system would contain 12,500 buckets (1 bucket every 2 ft.) and at 9 lbs. of lift per bucket this system would create a total of over 100,000 lbs. of lift at a constant rate of 20 ft. per second. Torque x RPM = Horsepower and therefore if these buckets existed and were connected on a 3 ft diameter gearing wheel this system would produce 100,000 torque x 180 rpm = 18,000,000 horsepower!!!!!!!!!!!

1 horsepower is calculated as being needed to produce 1kilowatt of electrical power. Equal to the calculation of 18,000 Megawatts of electrical power, or enough to power entire metropolitan areas!!!!!!!

At the surface we plan to catch the hydrogen gas and compress it by sinking this hydrogen back into the ocean and thus no mechanical compression will be needed. Hydrogen is the most clean burning fuel source we know of, and it has not been developed as the cost of electricity or harmonics used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen makes this process cost prohibitive.

The Oxygen will be released into the atmosphere to help cool it as it will be cold after rising from the depths. Also the aeration of the oceans and the inter-mixing of the thermal layers will help cool them and bring nutrients to the surface to allow the oceans to become more productive. I have never seen an aquarium survive without being aerated.

Furthermore, the greenhouse gases most abundantly produced by man, Carbon Monoxide and Carbon Dioxide are both soluble in water and become more soluble when placed under pressure. For this reason, I believe we should pump air into the ocean and release it where the the great pressure of the ocean will favor the absorption of these greenhouse gases, thus cleansing the atmosphere. This air when released into the cold deep ocean will re-enter the atmosphere clean of greenhouse gases and at a colder temperature, and this help cool the atmosphere, immediately.

We could build huge hoses made of 6" steel cable wrapped in a double helix pattern (for structural stability as well as flexibility) and wrap this hose with rubber compounds (for durability). The hose would reach into a block house at the bottom. The top section of this block house will contain high pressure tanks capable of withstanding the pressure of the ocean depths. A second high pressure pump would then have to be developed to shoot this high pressure air into this high density water.

Thus, this machine would accomplish the following functions:

(a) Cleanse the atmosphere of green house gases thus reducing man's contributions to global warming;

(b) Release the air back into the atmosphere at a much colder temperature due to the time the air has spent in the cold depths of the ocean, also combating rising temperatures.

(c) aerate the worlds oceans while intermixing the thermal layers to help cool it and will also add nutrients into the upper surface layer.

Each of these actions will thus combat the problem of global warming. (Aquila Alaska is a company that has been in the process of developing this high pressure pump for over a year at my request and the behest of "The Virgin Earth Challenge" award)

To cleanse the atmosphere of greenhouse gases, you must pump the atmosphere, and this system will do so while supplying the power to run itself.

A single block of concrete 30'x30'x15' could contain 30 pulley systems and could produce a combined torque of over 3,000,000 lbs. Further this block would process 18,000 gallons of air per minute or over 1,000,000 gallons of air per hour.

Any malfunction in a cable set could be easily repaired by towing the entire cable and block back to the surface to make repairs and then the block can be re-lowered and re-set in its place.

Cheap, easy, efficient, electricity, good for the environment and hydrogen fuel to boot! A floating cable tower that will generate power to see to the needs of our future generations which are entrusted to us to continue.

The following theory may seem far fetched to those of you who have accepted the meteorite theory of the dinosaurs disappearance without question, but you should read it anyway, with an open mind, for many of the facts known by science during this time period do not fit the meteorite theory concerning this extinction process.

THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT

At the time of the dinosaurs extinction scientists agree that the atmosphere was "steamy" and there is a law of gases states, "As the temperature of a gas increase, its ability to absorb and retain moisture will increase proportionally".
Thus a" STEAMY" atmosphere would be indicative of a" HOT" atmosphere as the above law of gases makes clear.

I believe all early dinosaurs were herbivores (plant eaters) and laid 100s of eggs each season, this caused a population explosion and the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as the planet was over grazed. (IE. global warming)

The storms during the time must have been horrific as moisture and Temperature (IE.Pressure) differences are what drive storms, and a hotter atmosphere holds more moisture. Thus the rain falling through the hot atmosphere deposited warm waters into an already heating ocean.

Photo plankton is a plant that grows in our worlds lakes and oceans and produces over 70% of our worlds oxygen. Photo plankton is also the basis of the marine food chain, and it does not grow in warm water.

During the dinosaur extinction over 97% of marine life died from starvation due to the disappearance of phytoplankton. And the oxygen levels dropped due to the fact that photo plankton could not grow in the warm waters of the oceans. No animal life form over 22 lbs. survived through this time period. The reason being the limitations of oxygen needs, which of course are governed by the size of animals.

During this time of oxygen depletion, debris falling into the atmosphere from space would not have been able to vaporize as oxygen is the only component in the atmosphere that allows vaporization occur. So that upon entering the atmosphere this space debris would have melted or turned to ash and spread out to rain upon the earth everywhere.

This is the reason for the iridium layer at the time of the dinosaurs extinction.

Further, the change of states, from water to ice or from ice to water costs our atmosphere 144 btu's per lb. of water. Thus the forming and melting of ice dissipates 288 btu's per lb. of water, each year. As less snow and ice form these 288 btu's per lb. will not be lost to this physical law governing the change of states, but will remain in the atmosphere to further heat the planet.

We are , I believe, treading a path of destruction. For ozone is made from oxygen, and an ozone depletion problem would be indicative of an oxygen depletion problem. If oxygen depletion is the cause of ozone depletion it would make perfect sense for the largest of these holes in the ozone layer to be right above Antarctica where no plant life exists to produce oxygen.

Chlorofluorocarbons are 1000's of times denser than oxygen and thus retain heat much longer than does oxgen! And 90% of CFC's are produced in the northern hemisphere, why is this hole in the ozone layer so far from where CFC's are produced? This as we continue to burn fossil fuels, heat our homes and the simple need of respiration produces the means of our own destruction. We are about to destroy ourselves as we are abusing "a planet" that can and will eliminate all who upset its balance.

Salmon avoided a stretch of water, and deviated from their course due to a 5 degree water temperature rise: there was no photo plankton in this water!. The coral reef in Australia is dying. We have chopped down all the forests and laid down asphalt and buildings to absorb and retain this heat. We produce heat, and we produce carbon gases, and we are too many upon this earth to live the way we have.

Storms will grow more powerful and more numerous as the temperature climbs, more moisture will be in the atmosphere, and the rains continue to warm our worlds oceans, which cuts down on its ability to support life and create oxygen. And we are not doing enough to solve these problems.

We ignorantly treat the earth as though it were not some giant body that could easily cause our demise. Chlorofluorocarbons are 1000's of times better at retaining heat than is oxygen! This as we continue to burn fossil fuels, heat our homes and the simple need of respiration produces the means of our own destruction. I just had to say that again!

Dear Friends,
This idea will revolutionize the power production industry by producing both electricity and hydrogen (for hydrogen fuel) at a production cost that cannot be equaled by any business, anywhere. Last year America alone spent 278 billion dollars on the production of electricity. In America and the world it is those who control the power industry that control economy and thus control the direction of the world. It is for this reason I write these following things as I do not want control of the world. (but this is my wish list)

It is my hope and prayer that our nation can come together to bring electrical power to the world and that we may run water pumping systems to pump water into some our world's deserts and water shortage areas. The hydrogen and oxygen gases could be put into pipes sepperately and then pumped to shore where it could be recombined to create heat to run internal elecrical productiion facilities and will result in pure water to proliferate plant growth and food production that we might deal with the problems of rising sea levels caused by global warming and over population as well as increasing the oxygen production capabilities on our planet.

We should begin building electro magnetic train systems across our country (and everywhere) to facilitate cost effective Transportation of goods and people at high speed, with little or no environmental impact.

I believe we should use prisoners to supply the labor and when released from prison these people could be given $10,000 dollars, and this
money could be used to begin a new life upon their release from prison.

In the Prison system that presently exists prisoner's are given $100 Dollars and are released back into the very same situation from which their "Crime" had arisen. Are we treating these people justly?? Or are we being irresponsible by not allowing these "criminals" the opportunity of rehabilitation! The recidivism rate in some states is over 95% and this money is put into supporting the millions of workers that work in police dept. welfare dept, homelessness system as well as the prison judicial system, and the politicians who are allowing this travesty of justice and goodness.

This would allow children whom have spent their whole lives poor, men who have spent their lives in and out of prison a real opportunity to get an apartment, phone, transportation, clothing and a little time to find a job. (how many of you could be put onto the streets of a city with $100 and create an new life for yourself? In reality I believe we are asking to much of these men.

We must begin to bring a new way of life into existence that is kinder, gentler, and more in tune with the ways of nature if we are going to live on this planet another 10 billion years!!.

My name is Angelo and you may E-mail me at angelothane@ yahoo.com or phone me at . Thank you

Qaoar is circa 43AU from us-nearly circular orbit.,…
Please, let us know your theory why are dwarf planets behind Pluto, Pluto included so close to their extreme points on their orbits???!!! My theory was presented in previous discussion comments,…Pavel Smutny

I made my conclusions. Probability to have all planetoids close to perihelia, or aphelia is less than 1:10000!!!! Pavel Smutny

You forgot one scientific approach,- that is historical. If people had seen some object on sky, they had described that's object's path on sky, they had written, drawn it even on astromap, there were effects on Earth, water masses and if those effects are even written in sediments, in ice core- can be dated and even are in coincidence with those paper, stone artefacts, so it is science, not pseudoscience!!!There is again gravity anomaly (not only Pioneers or Voyagers have it) in orbits of NEO satellites, what is exactly 1/million of Earth;s gravity on geostationary orbit.
This gr. force so is equal to force from X, if X is 2 bil. km from us and have mass 20MJup, what is in coincidence from my search results,..
Mike, you again forgot to answer my questions. Why are all planetoids behind Pluto, Pluto inclusive close to their perihelias, aphelias,…isn't it due to projection of opposite motions of Sun with inner planets to arriving X to its perihelia? Isn't it so unimportant to you?????!!!!! not worthy to answer?????!!!!!
I am from Slovakia. There was (in July 2007) absolute temperature maximum during history of all measurements in Slovakia (40,3C) and in the most of Central European countries. Last 12 months were 3C above average. There are very often catastrophic floods, super strong blasts of winds (3years ago nearly whole High Tatras were deforested by such strong wind,…). Once there are periods of nearly catastrophic dry months, in the next months are floods. In such or in other forms there are big changes over the whole Globe. Climate scientiests had forecasted some years ago, that north ice cap would lost some big part of its area in 2040. Japan scientiests had found it is so in this summer, not in 2040. Why is it so?!
There is clear significant amendment of man activities (deforestation, burning of fosil, non fosil, new big industrial areas covered by concrete, asphalt,…). But is it all?
All new planetoids, planets have somehow eccentric orbits – their focuses are shifted circa 1bill. km. The most distant Sedna, Xena are even very close to perihelia, aphelia, Why?
Isn't it sign, that something much massive is approaching us and it is close to its perihelia?
Those shifts, shapes of paths so are after it only projection of our opposite motion toward X -to orbits of very distant objects,….?
There are many historical artefacts what speak that we have here – in our sol. sys. minimum one very massive object with long periodicity-Senmut map, Dendera zodiac, Narmer palette, funeral banner from tomb of markiza Tai, Mayan codexes, Enuma Elish, Biblical texts from Book of Job,Texts from pyramids,…
Global warming is not only on Earth but also on Mars,…-the same level of acceleration, big perturb. in orbits of moons of Uranus, retrograde motion of Neptune's moon Titan-signs also after sudden temperature change on one half of surface, doubled atmosferic pressure after some years…
There is acceler. of shifts of motions of magnet. poles on Earth, but also on Saturn,…results, graphs of GISP, Vostok projects-regular circa 1500 years intervals sharp peaks during last 40000 years,…
Accelerating Solar activity-max. per. 8000 years now?! Jupiter in aphelia in 2011, the strongest solar maximum per last 400 years – forecasted on 2011, 2012 even by official astronomers.
Sun's axis is also approx. in plain pointing on Orion,…Sun's, Moon;s eclipses are in March, September now – around equinoxes, what show that also knots of Moon's path /main axes of Moons orbit show on Orion,..Eclipses (in 2011,2012 ) will be during end of December and close to Venus transit time!
As of Feb. 6, Pioneer 10 was about 92.12 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun and headed towards the constellation Taurus.The discrepancy found that Pioneer 10 and 11 were each about 240,000 miles (400,000 kilometers) closer to the Sun than they should be according to the current understanding of gravity.
Pioneers slowing (400,000km, or 1000x more!?) when these probes are circa 14mld. km from us show, that gravity of that body (X) causing this disproportion is 10x mass of Earth or even 30mass of Jupiter?! Why is source of that extra gravity pointing to Sun? It is so, because X is now much more closer to Sun than are Pioneers now!
Hurricanes frequency, their power acceleration in last years, increasing number of floods, super strong winds, tornados, temperature extremes-anomalies, growing number of London Thames Barrier closures due to extreme surges,…
and many other facts speak that we have in solar system not only tenth Xena, but also something much heavier till 25 Jupiters-maybe micro black hole?!,black dwarf star,…?!
and that objects is approaching perihelia,..
I made detailed simulations in WinOrsa and they show, that it is possible!
what do you think about? hamops1.szm.sk Pavel Smutny
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at 10:59AM Saturday on September 22, 2007, RNDr. Pavel Smutny said:

People too much trust to official scientiests. Look on Venus cycles-Mayan Codexes handle with them preciously. There are enough written messages about what happened circa 11500 years ago, 13000 ago.
Plato, Menetho,..spoke about it too, they mentioned exact date (9500B.C.), what coincidence with GISP2 data, graphs- it is written in ice core too (Gisp2, Vostok projects). North pole shifted 15-20 degree, mamoths were frozen to -70C, but with subtropical, savannah food in stomaks,….Big earthquakes, vulcanoes explosions – coincidence with Venus cycles/transits (Krakatoa-1882,416 A.D.).
Scientiests had also found that super strong earthquakes in Mediterranian area (Lebanon,..) have periodicity 1200-1700years-what agree with Planet X-Nibiru periodicity,…
Flood is very precisely described in Genesis, there is Exodus, there are also Jesus forecasts about end of days/- what is described over there-it support X theory,…
People think, that X if such planet exist must significantly perturb orbits of planets, it must be clearly visible.
Yes it is so, but only when X is close to perihelia. Deformations on orbits of planetoids, of Pluto – offic. scientiests considered to be normal, but it is stupidity.
Look on Jupiter, Venus- how massive and close are these planets to Earth and what are perturbancies caused by these planets on Earth,…too small. X is 2x farther then Jupiter now, if X will be in perihelia in 2012,….
People also know too little about various secret projects, researches, labs. There are many scientiests involved, but we don't know results of such researches, though we common people pay it.
There are only small pieces of informations what were given to public, or escaped incidentally,…
for example those infos from ACIO project (wingmakers.com) about BST technologies,….jumps into various causal points of time,-projects going behind-advancing Philadelphia experiment-Montauk project,….
they-Dr. Neruda, Anderson speak about 2011-point where is difficult to go behind,….there are pictures-painting describing very probably arrival of X to perihelia,….
official point of view of usas government is," if there will be some body endangering Earth we will prevent people from to know it, due not to panic,…bla bla, bla" It was published in ofic. newspapers.
Look on for example:
web page of Mike Brown-main discoverer of big planetoids in recent time.
gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/
The most of big planetoids, of Pluto are very close to perihelia or aphelia??!!

hamops1.szm.sk/
mujweb.cz/veda/senmut/
mujweb.cz/Veda/mikrovlna
mujweb.cz/Veda/akustika
mujweb.cz/Veda/narmer
mujweb.cz/kultura/planetx/
mujweb.cz/spolecnost/gothic
mujweb.cz/spolecnost/bode alsohere it isdescr. how are synchronised orbit of planets and of X
mujweb.cz/spolecnost/sedna look here for explanation of shifts of planets
senmut.szm.com/
revenus.szm.sk/
Pioneers 10 and 11 have signif. discrepances, delays from forecasted positions, it is on:
adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1975GeoRL…2..265H
adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001gr.qc…..7092S
space.com/scienceastronomy/0703…ioneeranom.html
there are some data but given with very unclear and not properly given reasons for dicrepancies,delays,….
There should be many big snowbals-planetoids, protoplanets on very prolongated eliptic orbits, or on circa circular orbits with radiuses much longer than that of Pluto,…
There are many dwarf stars, jovial planets, rests after star colissions,… what were ejected from mother planetary nebulas, from orbits at stars after supernova explosions,…
It is forecasted in the last time that there are many more brown, t- dwarf stars then normal sun-like stars, so where are these?. They are nearly invisible in space among bright stars. It is possible only with super strong telescopes to discover them and with bit of good luck. So also in the last years there were discovered next brown,..stars close to Sun in distances to 20LY,….
X, Nemesis are not unprobable but very probable objects,….very cold small but densty and so nearly invisible.

As for the way ahead GW wise, we have two areas yet to be developed on in the debate, self -righting mechanisms within our biosphere and the impending new quantum technology threshold this century will usher in (LHC et al) and give humanity energy sources way beyond half-baked windmills, solar panels etc.

Those of you who remember the late 60's and 70's environmental warnings of doom that came to nought , it is happening again. The underlying cause high oil prices!

In reading the article, and the one I read yesterday, I find myself wondering if the sun is not totally responsible… Clearly the correlation of sun spot observations to satellite solar intensity readings are a good one leading to the conclusion that we can trust the nearly 400 years of sun-spot observations as being a good indicator of solar intensity over the past 400 years. However we have nothing that I believe provides a history of solar intensity going beyond that. What the article does mention from ice core data could easily be skewed by the fluctuations in the Earths own magnetic field. Any way, a last note on the global warming issue… What if we are already headed into the next "ice age"? And what if the CO2 we are pumping into the climate is the only thing preventing a "Natural" global catastrophe? In other words, we may be helping our selves by putting all that green house gas into the atmosphere! So I think people need to stop the "debating" and stop working against each other, and start coming together to determine what needs to be done to promote what is in all of humanities common interest here on our "Space Ship Earth"

Why can't people accept a common medium ground, like humans have played a part and maybe the earth is in a natural warming cycle? When it comes down to it, for sure, we are playing a part. But how big the part is noone knows.

The whole Northern Hemisphere just experienced the coldest winter in recent memory, with Canada and the states experiencing the coldest January in 45 years.

Im not a full blown skeptic, Im just not a full blown believer as to humans are fully responsible. I think there are more causes at work than just C02 emissions is all

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7329799.stm

I guess that's caused by "global warming" too.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html