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	<title>Comments on: Planet Finder Catches a Comet!</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17618</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; That is a great article

Hmm, didn&#039;t Tammy state very clearly that  this is in its essence a &lt;i&gt;copied press release&lt;/i&gt; without any changes (and one where the glaring error &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; hasn&#039;t been corrected although the original source has long done so)? An &quot;article&quot; is something different, don&#039;t you think?

It would be most helpful if Universe Today would make it more obvious what is genuine new content &lt;i&gt;(which I appreciate and often link to, actually, including a recent Tammy article)&lt;/i&gt; and what is a blindly copied press release! Sometimes the original source is linked to at the end - but not here ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; That is a great article</p>
<p>Hmm, didn&#039;t Tammy state very clearly that  this is in its essence a <i>copied press release</i> without any changes (and one where the glaring error <i>still</i> hasn&#039;t been corrected although the original source has long done so)? An &#034;article&#034; is something different, don&#039;t you think?</p>
<p>It would be most helpful if Universe Today would make it more obvious what is genuine new content <i>(which I appreciate and often link to, actually, including a recent Tammy article)</i> and what is a blindly copied press release! Sometimes the original source is linked to at the end &#8211; but not here &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17569</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Marcellus...  Your words mean a lot more than you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Marcellus&#8230;  Your words mean a lot more than you know.</p>
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		<title>By: marcellus</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17539</link>
		<dc:creator>marcellus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great article, Tammy. I really appreciate what you do for the astronomical community.

I always read your stuff and see if I can glean some insights to what I&#039;m trying to accomplish when I go observing. 

You have my utmost admiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great article, Tammy. I really appreciate what you do for the astronomical community.</p>
<p>I always read your stuff and see if I can glean some insights to what I&#039;m trying to accomplish when I go observing. </p>
<p>You have my utmost admiration.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17432</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, here&#039;s what the R.A.S. spokesman just wrote to me: &quot;Hi Daniel

Oops... I&#039;ll correct it online but as you say the odds of many people [that&#039;s the science writers community I was talking about; DF] checking is slim... Thanks for letting me know.

Regards

Robert&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, here&#039;s what the R.A.S. spokesman just wrote to me: &#034;Hi Daniel</p>
<p>Oops&#8230; I&#039;ll correct it online but as you say the odds of many people [that's the science writers community I was talking about; DF] checking is slim&#8230; Thanks for letting me know.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Robert&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17408</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what, in &lt;a href=&quot;http://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/~hhh/holmes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hsieh&#039;s own version&lt;/a&gt; of the press release, the mistake has already been fixed - while the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ras.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=1429&amp;Itemid=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;R.A.S.&lt;/a&gt; version has yet to follow suit. 

Case closed (while the issue of how science reporters should handle press releases has been taken care of in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.capjournal.org/issues/01/05_09.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this CAP Journal article&lt;/a&gt; last fall).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what, in <a href="http://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/~hhh/holmes" rel="nofollow">Hsieh&#039;s own version</a> of the press release, the mistake has already been fixed &#8211; while the <a href="http://www.ras.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=1429&amp;Itemid=2" rel="nofollow">R.A.S.</a> version has yet to follow suit. </p>
<p>Case closed (while the issue of how science reporters should handle press releases has been taken care of in <a href="http://www.capjournal.org/issues/01/05_09.pdf" rel="nofollow">this CAP Journal article</a> last fall).</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17399</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; As a reporter, it is not up to me to change dates or times on press releases - even if I believe them to be erroneous.

Oh no, as a science journalist it is your &lt;i&gt;duty&lt;/i&gt; to check press releases for accuracy - and correct them, esp. when they are so obvious as this one (of course I told the RAS, too). I thought Universe Today wanted to be something more than one of the countless copy&amp;past press release mirror sites?

For the timeline of the Holmes outburst see the  October 24 entry in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.astro.uni-bonn.de/~dfischer/mirror/306.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cosmic Mirror&lt;/a&gt; and the &quot;visual observation reports&quot; links in the sidebar: By mid-day UTC on Oct. 24 tthe comet had already brightened by about a million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; As a reporter, it is not up to me to change dates or times on press releases &#8211; even if I believe them to be erroneous.</p>
<p>Oh no, as a science journalist it is your <i>duty</i> to check press releases for accuracy &#8211; and correct them, esp. when they are so obvious as this one (of course I told the RAS, too). I thought Universe Today wanted to be something more than one of the countless copy&amp;past press release mirror sites?</p>
<p>For the timeline of the Holmes outburst see the  October 24 entry in my <a href="http://www.astro.uni-bonn.de/~dfischer/mirror/306.html" rel="nofollow">Cosmic Mirror</a> and the &#034;visual observation reports&#034; links in the sidebar: By mid-day UTC on Oct. 24 tthe comet had already brightened by about a million.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy Plotner</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17325</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Plotner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

&quot;The 8 cameras that make up the system operate robotically, automatically scanning large areas of the sky each night.&quot;

To me, this sentence says the operation is controlled by a computer guided program on an agenda, not aimed on a whim.

&quot;By coincidence, at 2339 GMT on the evening of 24 October 2007, it was pointing towards Comet 17P Holmes.&quot;

By coincidence means to me that it just happened to be pointing in that area at that time.  Astronomers are rather picky about logging times.

&quot;By the time SuperWASP spotted the comet, it had already brightened by a factor of 1000&quot; explains Dr. Henry Hsieh. &quot;But this was still almost 3 hours before anyone else noticed it.&quot;

Dr. Hsieh&#039;s comment leads me to believe the outburst was already occuring when the SW system began filming the area by coincidence.  Since night doesn&#039;t happen at the same time all around the Earth, the news of the outburst was already breaking worldwide.  I would say Dr. Hsieh comment that it &quot;was still almost 3 hours before anyone noticed it.&quot; could either refer to the SuperWASP team monitoring the images, or &quot;anyone&quot; could also be a professional slip meaning other professional observatories.

As a reporter, it is not up to me to change dates or times on press releases - even if I believe them to be erroneous.  Nor can I change statements given by others to make them read what we want them to say.  As an accredited observer, if a professional observatory tells me their scope was pointed at X at 2339 GMT on the evening of 24 October 2007, then I must take that at face value.

If you feel their dates are in error, I would suggest you visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.superwasp.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SuperWASP&lt;/a&gt; and explain that Dr. Hsieh&#039;s press release to the RAS is incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>&#034;The 8 cameras that make up the system operate robotically, automatically scanning large areas of the sky each night.&#034;</p>
<p>To me, this sentence says the operation is controlled by a computer guided program on an agenda, not aimed on a whim.</p>
<p>&#034;By coincidence, at 2339 GMT on the evening of 24 October 2007, it was pointing towards Comet 17P Holmes.&#034;</p>
<p>By coincidence means to me that it just happened to be pointing in that area at that time.  Astronomers are rather picky about logging times.</p>
<p>&#034;By the time SuperWASP spotted the comet, it had already brightened by a factor of 1000&#034; explains Dr. Henry Hsieh. &#034;But this was still almost 3 hours before anyone else noticed it.&#034;</p>
<p>Dr. Hsieh&#039;s comment leads me to believe the outburst was already occuring when the SW system began filming the area by coincidence.  Since night doesn&#039;t happen at the same time all around the Earth, the news of the outburst was already breaking worldwide.  I would say Dr. Hsieh comment that it &#034;was still almost 3 hours before anyone noticed it.&#034; could either refer to the SuperWASP team monitoring the images, or &#034;anyone&#034; could also be a professional slip meaning other professional observatories.</p>
<p>As a reporter, it is not up to me to change dates or times on press releases &#8211; even if I believe them to be erroneous.  Nor can I change statements given by others to make them read what we want them to say.  As an accredited observer, if a professional observatory tells me their scope was pointed at X at 2339 GMT on the evening of 24 October 2007, then I must take that at face value.</p>
<p>If you feel their dates are in error, I would suggest you visit <a href="http://www.superwasp.org/" rel="nofollow">SuperWASP</a> and explain that Dr. Hsieh&#039;s press release to the RAS is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17300</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no aliens. UFOs by definition can be anything.We&#039;re spending billions upon billions looking for spooks [AKA:Sagans]. We are simply arrogant little snits who love to waste other folk&#039;s dough [TAXES] and call it science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no aliens. UFOs by definition can be anything.We&#039;re spending billions upon billions looking for spooks [AKA:Sagans]. We are simply arrogant little snits who love to waste other folk&#039;s dough [TAXES] and call it science.</p>
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		<title>By: alokmohan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17293</link>
		<dc:creator>alokmohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caching   comets  are    easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caching   comets  are    easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17270</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You copied a typo from the press release: The outburst began late on Oct. &lt;b&gt;23&lt;/b&gt;, 2007 and was known widely in the comet community by the morning of Oct. 24!

Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You copied a typo from the press release: The outburst began late on Oct. <b>23</b>, 2007 and was known widely in the comet community by the morning of Oct. 24!</p>
<p>Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17260</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sts-80 was a &#039;96 shuttle mission, why is it that whenever there is &#039;solid proof&#039; of extra terrestrials the image is always grainy and greatly out of focus?  The only thing creepy about the YouTube footage is the British fellow forming all these conclusions without giving any credentials.  Think about it for a moment, we can easily see small man made satellites crossing the sky at night and its hard to miss the ISS when it goes over.  The ISS has an approximate diameter of 50 meters and the UFOs described in the film have an estimated diameter of 1.5 miles, if these things periodically wiz about in the upper atmosphere thousands of people would witness them every time they showed up.  Lastly, its a thunderstorm, isn&#039;t it likely that it&#039;s merely an electromagnetic phenomenon such as ball lightning or stable plasma?  Think what you will, but I remain wholly unconvinced in the alien visitor theory from this clip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sts-80 was a &#039;96 shuttle mission, why is it that whenever there is &#039;solid proof&#039; of extra terrestrials the image is always grainy and greatly out of focus?  The only thing creepy about the YouTube footage is the British fellow forming all these conclusions without giving any credentials.  Think about it for a moment, we can easily see small man made satellites crossing the sky at night and its hard to miss the ISS when it goes over.  The ISS has an approximate diameter of 50 meters and the UFOs described in the film have an estimated diameter of 1.5 miles, if these things periodically wiz about in the upper atmosphere thousands of people would witness them every time they showed up.  Lastly, its a thunderstorm, isn&#039;t it likely that it&#039;s merely an electromagnetic phenomenon such as ball lightning or stable plasma?  Think what you will, but I remain wholly unconvinced in the alien visitor theory from this clip.</p>
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		<title>By: RGR</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17235</link>
		<dc:creator>RGR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most curious about the second object, if it is, is the jagged line it follows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most curious about the second object, if it is, is the jagged line it follows.</p>
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		<title>By: autumn</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17204</link>
		<dc:creator>autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the evidence of alien intelligence is lights appearing on Earth?
Oh, wait, there were also well studied photographic artifacts.

I&#039;m convinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the evidence of alien intelligence is lights appearing on Earth?<br />
Oh, wait, there were also well studied photographic artifacts.</p>
<p>I&#039;m convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17202</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try STS-80</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try STS-80</p>
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		<title>By: Terry in Sydney</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17189</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry in Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey LLDIAZ, could not find anything on youtube under sts-180?? You got a link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey LLDIAZ, could not find anything on youtube under sts-180?? You got a link?</p>
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		<title>By: LLDIAZ</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17178</link>
		<dc:creator>LLDIAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you think thats strange you should youtube 
sts-180 its a satellite image thats freakin creepy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you think thats strange you should youtube<br />
sts-180 its a satellite image thats freakin creepy</p>
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		<title>By: Andrey</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17162</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to be a tiny (one pixel) moving something; the ring is a software tracker which pursues it. Another tracker is actually tracking the comet itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be a tiny (one pixel) moving something; the ring is a software tracker which pursues it. Another tracker is actually tracking the comet itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17161</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The image in the background is very noticeable! I wonder what it could be...hmmmm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The image in the background is very noticeable! I wonder what it could be&#8230;hmmmm!</p>
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		<title>By: Terragen</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17154</link>
		<dc:creator>Terragen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like an explanation for the dark artifact moving right to left as well.</description>
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		<title>By: Mortac</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/planet-finder-catches-a-comet/comment-page-1/#comment-17153</link>
		<dc:creator>Mortac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is that black shape passing by from right to left in the upper part of the animation?</description>
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