Comments on: Lumpy Neutron Stars can Generate Gravitational Waves http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:45:29 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: notconvinced http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-22430 notconvinced Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:15:42 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-22430 The question I have is that binary neutron stars will generate much stronger gravitational waves and we know they are out there and yet we can not detect them. Recently, I've read that binary neutron stars or stars going super nova are 6 times more likey than previously thought and now this suggestion that neutron stars are lumpier than previously thought. It all sounds like propaganda to raise the funding for projects like the next generation of LIGO. Things are getting desperate in the science funding world as is shown by NASA refusing the funds to finance the final analysis of the GPB data, despite the fact the funds are only a fraction of the money that already been spent over the last 40 years on that project. The question I have is that binary neutron stars will generate much stronger gravitational waves and we know they are out there and yet we can not detect them. Recently, I've read that binary neutron stars or stars going super nova are 6 times more likey than previously thought and now this suggestion that neutron stars are lumpier than previously thought. It all sounds like propaganda to raise the funding for projects like the next generation of LIGO. Things are getting desperate in the science funding world as is shown by NASA refusing the funds to finance the final analysis of the GPB data, despite the fact the funds are only a fraction of the money that already been spent over the last 40 years on that project.

]]> By: JN http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-18508 JN Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:15:02 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-18508 Hi Frend http://www.hypothesis-of-universe.com/en/index.php?nav=home Hi Frend
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]]> By: Ian O'Neill http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17427 Ian O'Neill Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:16:56 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17427 Ah Cathbad, how I've missed you! How have you been? I always enjoy your valuable and insightful input to stories on the Universe Today. There's never any substance to your arguments, there's never a real name behind your pseudonym, there's never any science to back up your point of view. There is never any challenge to what I write, just a lot of hot air and nonsense. As we've said to you before, give us some convincing scientific debate, and back that up by coming out into the open and providing your name or your own blog. Even write an article or two to show us that the "sciencebabble" we report on can be written better. As yet we've had no response about this offer, so I will let you continue to rant and rave if that makes you happy. All the best, Ian Ah Cathbad, how I've missed you! How have you been?

I always enjoy your valuable and insightful input to stories on the Universe Today.

There's never any substance to your arguments, there's never a real name behind your pseudonym, there's never any science to back up your point of view. There is never any challenge to what I write, just a lot of hot air and nonsense.

As we've said to you before, give us some convincing scientific debate, and back that up by coming out into the open and providing your name or your own blog. Even write an article or two to show us that the "sciencebabble" we report on can be written better.

As yet we've had no response about this offer, so I will let you continue to rant and rave if that makes you happy.

All the best, Ian

]]> By: pradipta kumar mohapatra http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17422 pradipta kumar mohapatra Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:05:09 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17422 From the ancestral time the world space research established on blind theory. We although demand that we have discovered lots of mysteries viz. milk ways, galaxies, nebulas, white drafts, black holes etcs., in real they are creation of space mirror. SPACE MIRROR is the truth and hidden mystery of the space. Since we are unknown about space mirror, our research has diverted from original truth and we have spent lots of time and money behind the false truth. Therefore it invites to visit http://www.spacemirrormystery.com and for prosperous space research. From the ancestral time the world space research established on blind theory. We although demand that we have discovered lots of mysteries viz. milk ways, galaxies, nebulas, white drafts, black holes etcs., in real they are creation of space mirror. SPACE MIRROR is the truth and hidden mystery of the space. Since we are unknown about space mirror, our research has diverted from original truth and we have spent lots of time and money behind the false truth.
Therefore it invites to visit http://www.spacemirrormystery.com and for prosperous space research.

]]> By: zach http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17385 zach Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:28:25 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17385 Cathbad, Care to explain your comments? Cathbad,

Care to explain your comments?

]]> By: ScepticTim http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17240 ScepticTim Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:16:46 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17240 According to (perhaps old) magnetar theory, the common flashes that are the hallmark of SGRs are caused by "starquakes" in the outer rigid crust of the magnetar. As a magnetar's colossal magnetic field shifts, it strains and may break the crust When the crust snaps, it vibrates with seismic waves like in an earthquake and emits a flash of soft gamma-rays. Assuming that the crustal vibrations are unlikely to be spherically symmetrical: perhaps behaving more like the first few components of spherical harmonics: they would produce propagating lumps in the spinning neutron stars outer shell. This brief period of asymmetry should also generate gravity waves, should it not? According to (perhaps old) magnetar theory, the common flashes that are the hallmark of SGRs are
caused by "starquakes" in the outer rigid crust of the magnetar. As a magnetar's colossal magnetic field shifts, it strains and may break the crust When the crust snaps, it vibrates with seismic waves like in an earthquake and emits a flash of soft gamma-rays. Assuming that the crustal vibrations are unlikely to be spherically symmetrical: perhaps behaving more like the first few components of spherical harmonics: they would produce propagating lumps in the spinning neutron stars outer shell. This brief period of asymmetry should also generate gravity waves, should it not?

]]> By: cathbad http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17239 cathbad Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:14:39 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17239 Yeal indeed a good point. So you think universe today is a SCIENCE place ? It is not. It is a sciencebabble place one time and again. And it is NOT the 'subscribers' to be blamed, but the authors and the editors. Be aware that this site is to generate money not wisdom. So anyone creating a site hit increasing the count is welcome. Yeal indeed a good point.

So you think universe today is a SCIENCE place ?
It is not.
It is a sciencebabble place one time and again.

And it is NOT the 'subscribers' to be blamed, but the authors and the editors.

Be aware that this site is to generate money not wisdom.

So anyone creating a site hit increasing the count is welcome.

]]> By: pantzov http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17206 pantzov Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:11:43 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17206 this is an interesting possibility. if gravitational waves do indeed exist and have the predicted properties, then this should be a very powerful source. this is an interesting possibility. if gravitational waves do indeed exist and have the predicted properties, then this should be a very powerful source.

]]> By: Yael Dragwyla http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17205 Yael Dragwyla Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:53:29 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17205 Judging from numerous comments about the various Universe Today articles, many subscribers are looking for entertainment and/or a forum for emotional venting about non-science subjects, not actual science. Maybe Youtube wouild be a better place for them to hang out. Judging from numerous comments about the various Universe Today articles, many subscribers are looking for entertainment and/or a forum for emotional venting about non-science subjects, not actual science. Maybe Youtube wouild be a better place for them to hang out.

]]> By: Astrofiend (Sydney, Australia) http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17194 Astrofiend (Sydney, Australia) Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:32:01 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17194 "YourBrain Says: April 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 am Oh boy, another article filled with wisdom like "simulations suggest" and "may generate" and "might be." " Your point being? This is actually how science moves forward - deductions based upon the best available knowledge and theoretical considerations, and then you go out and see if the evidence backs it up. If it does - great. If it doesn't - great. No matter what happens, you have learned something new and you are necessarily closer to understanding some aspect of nature. If you want something more unquestioningly definitive, science isn't for you. "YourBrain Says:
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 am

Oh boy, another article filled with wisdom like "simulations suggest" and "may generate" and "might be." "

Your point being? This is actually how science moves forward – deductions based upon the best available knowledge and theoretical considerations, and then you go out and see if the evidence backs it up. If it does – great. If it doesn't – great. No matter what happens, you have learned something new and you are necessarily closer to understanding some aspect of nature.

If you want something more unquestioningly definitive, science isn't for you.

]]> By: belinda birdleg http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17170 belinda birdleg Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:28:11 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17170 Hi Ian many thanks for this enlightening article, again. And again I felt like a MIT student. All is so easy. And it is so thrilling. Nothing is certain, proven and boring. All is in flux. But for the next article I kindly ask you to bring in some more scary things like dark protons or submarine black holes or midnightly death rays. I like these things so much. Please do it again. Your sincere fan bellinda Hi Ian many thanks for this enlightening article, again.
And again I felt like a MIT student.
All is so easy.
And it is so thrilling. Nothing is certain, proven and boring.
All is in flux.

But for the next article I kindly ask you to bring in some more scary things like dark protons or submarine black holes or midnightly death rays.

I like these things so much.
Please do it again.

Your sincere fan bellinda

]]> By: Ian O'Neill http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17157 Ian O'Neill Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:03:39 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17157 Thank you Rosa, just been writing about galaxies, so it probably overflowed into this article ;) Cheers, Ian Thank you Rosa, just been writing about galaxies, so it probably overflowed into this article ;)

Cheers, Ian

]]> By: Rosa W. http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17156 Rosa W. Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:59:38 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17156 I think you meant "pulsar" where you wrote "quasar". Quasars are active galactic nuclei. I think you meant "pulsar" where you wrote "quasar". Quasars are active galactic nuclei.

]]> By: Nanowit http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17152 Nanowit Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:41:23 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17152 Advances in scientific knowledge require this type of "brainstorming". In the classroom I have often seen the wildest brainstorm-ideas lead others to formulate very important concepts. This same process occurs among scientists. Advances in scientific knowledge require this type of "brainstorming". In the classroom I have often seen the wildest brainstorm-ideas lead others to formulate very important concepts. This same process occurs among scientists.

]]> By: YourBrain http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/comment-page-1/#comment-17139 YourBrain Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:53:52 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/04/02/lumpy-neutron-stars-can-generate-gravitational-waves/#comment-17139 Oh boy, another article filled with wisdom like "simulations suggest" and "may generate" and "might be." Oh well, I guess somebody gets paid for writing this stuff! Oh boy, another article filled with wisdom like "simulations suggest" and "may generate" and "might be." Oh well, I guess somebody gets paid for writing this stuff!

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