Comments on: The Mysterious Case of Two Spheres Falling to Earth in Australia and Brazil http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:14:11 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: George http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-4/#comment-54959 George Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:13:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-54959 Its odd that items can return to earth from what ever it is we do out there in space but it sure would be nice if someone would say umm yeah we got this fuel cell thats going to smack into the earth and will stay intact. This falling item could destroy your house or kill your children so please stay alert! Do they at least warn us of this crap? NO its because they don't give a crap about us were freakin wage slaves and the dam rich and elite could give to craps about normal people Its odd that items can return to earth from what ever it is we do out there in space but it sure would be nice if someone would say umm yeah we got this fuel cell thats going to smack into the earth and will stay intact. This falling item could destroy your house or kill your children so please stay alert!
Do they at least warn us of this crap? NO its because they don't give a crap about us were freakin wage slaves and the dam rich and elite could give to craps about normal people

]]> By: Tom Haberthaler http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-30197 Tom Haberthaler Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:25:01 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-30197 Let me take this opportunity to remind everyone that a very mysterious orb washed up onto the beach here near Charleston, SC some years back. It was metalic and a sphere but beyond that, nobody around here actually knows what it is or where it came from. Some of us thought it may have been an object from WWII but that's all any of us had, just theories. Nobody knew with any certainty. It was just eventually hauled off to some police station I believe and forgotten about by most. An old saying, "Mankind is lost for lack of knowledge..." Let me take this opportunity to remind everyone that a very mysterious orb washed up onto the beach here near Charleston, SC some years back. It was metalic and a sphere but beyond that, nobody around here actually knows what it is or where it came from. Some of us thought it may have been an object from WWII but that's all any of us had, just theories. Nobody knew with any certainty. It was just eventually hauled off to some police station I believe and forgotten about by most. An old saying, "Mankind is lost for lack of knowledge…"

]]> By: Lucy http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-21714 Lucy Mon, 26 May 2008 13:08:38 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-21714 It's a Dragonball It's a Dragonball

]]> By: Agreeable ordinary private citizen http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-19179 Agreeable ordinary private citizen Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:29:14 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-19179 They are warm to the touch because wild pumpkins and/or solidified swamp gas are great insulators for solar heat. I saw that on T.V. I can't wait to watch more. Ooops...gotta go. The movie "Conspiracy Theory" is coming on in a few minutes. They are warm to the touch because wild pumpkins and/or solidified swamp gas are great insulators for solar heat. I saw that on T.V.

I can't wait to watch more. Ooops…gotta go. The movie "Conspiracy Theory" is coming on in a few minutes.

]]> By: Alan Ledbury http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-18054 Alan Ledbury Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:11:25 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-18054 Hi UK Dave They store helium gas under pressure, The helium is piped into the fuel tanks and presurises them for 2 reasons. 1) the pressure forces the fuel out of the tanks, into the pumps and then the egines, 2) they make the tank stiff, think of a plastic cola bottle and how rigid it gets when you shake it up, then think how weak it gets when you vent it ( that means unscrewing the cap) The tanks have to be strong enough to support the payload at the top of the stack under accelleration, the helium actually supports the payload. Why Helium ???, well it has to be inert, compressed air could feed a fire and cause the fuel tank to expload, compressed CO2 is inert but very heavy. Why vented ???, as the ship breaks up on re-entry the pipework burns up and the helium just escapes, it not intentional Hope this is clear Cheers and beers, Alan Hi UK Dave

They store helium gas under pressure,

The helium is piped into the fuel tanks and presurises them for 2 reasons.

1) the pressure forces the fuel out of the tanks, into the pumps and then the egines,

2) they make the tank stiff, think of a plastic cola bottle and how rigid it gets when you shake it up, then think how weak it gets when you vent it ( that means unscrewing the cap)

The tanks have to be strong enough to support the payload at the top of the stack
under accelleration, the helium actually supports the payload.

Why Helium ???, well it has to be inert, compressed air could feed a fire and cause the fuel tank to expload, compressed CO2 is inert but very heavy.

Why vented ???, as the ship breaks up on re-entry the pipework burns up and the helium just escapes, it not intentional

Hope this is clear

Cheers and beers, Alan

]]> By: UK Dave http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-17702 UK Dave Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:34:22 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-17702 What kind of function do these things serve? Why is the helium vented? To lighten the craft or as a flame retardant? What kind of function do these things serve? Why is the helium vented? To lighten the craft or as a flame retardant?

]]> By: Pete http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-17163 Pete Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:18:05 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-17163 What's the explanation for them being 'hot to the touch"? What's the explanation for them being 'hot to the touch"?

]]> By: Emerson http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-17124 Emerson Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:37:57 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-17124 Bob Lynch Mar 28th Good on you. Commonsense isn't a lost art. Bob Lynch Mar 28th

Good on you. Commonsense isn't a lost art.

]]> By: Agreeable ordinary private citizen http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-17101 Agreeable ordinary private citizen Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:17:45 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-17101 Yes, that makes perfect sense. These grow all over the undisclosed area I live in. We definately should stop speculating and accept that these are common objects. Yip, definately nothing out of the ordinary here. Just common wild giant black pumpkins and/or solidified swamp gas. Well that settles it. I can go about myy daily routine again. Whew. What a relief. I sure hate thinking. I love TV. We should all watch more of it. Yes, that makes perfect sense. These grow all over the undisclosed area I live in. We definately should stop speculating and accept that these are common objects. Yip, definately nothing out of the ordinary here. Just common wild giant black pumpkins and/or solidified swamp gas. Well that settles it. I can go about myy daily routine again. Whew. What a relief. I sure hate thinking. I love TV. We should all watch more of it.

]]> By: Not the Central Intelligence Agency http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-17099 Not the Central Intelligence Agency Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:09:29 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-17099 They are nothing of consequence. They are most likely solidified swamp gas balls (very common) or also common wild giant black pumpkins. Forget about them. Do not discuss them. Please send your names and addresses to project_outer_banks@no.org. Also include when you are most likely to be alone and vulnerable. You never read this. They are nothing of consequence. They are most likely solidified swamp gas balls (very common) or also common wild giant black pumpkins.
Forget about them. Do not discuss them. Please send your names and addresses to project_outer_banks@no.org. Also include when you are most likely to be alone and vulnerable.
You never read this.

]]> By: Pepe http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16997 Pepe Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:30:56 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16997 Hello, my friends, Plese access the article about crash objects in Brazil in the world: www.viafanzine.jor.br/astronautica3 This text by prof. Ildefonso Souza, brazilian fisical, explain 10 pics of crashs objetcts and the fragment of research by Mr. Ian O'neil about the "spheres crashs". The original portuguese idiom, to translate, please, access Google Translation: http://translate.google.com/translate_t Best regards, Pepe Chaves - spacial researcher from Brazil www.viafanzine.jor.br Hello, my friends,

Plese access the article about crash objects in Brazil in the world:
http://www.viafanzine.jor.br/astronautica3

This text by prof. Ildefonso Souza, brazilian fisical, explain 10 pics of crashs objetcts and the fragment of research by Mr. Ian O'neil about the "spheres crashs".

The original portuguese idiom, to translate, please, access Google Translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate_t

Best regards,

Pepe Chaves – spacial researcher
from Brazil
http://www.viafanzine.jor.br

]]> By: JANE http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16974 JANE Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:00:08 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16974 Tarzan this page is made for nerds. So what. Tarzan this page is made for nerds. So what.

]]> By: TARZAN http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16931 TARZAN Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:40:33 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16931 shut up nerds shut up nerds

]]> By: newton silva http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16928 newton silva Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:58:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16928 This is from Russian or US artifacts in space. This is from Russian or US artifacts in space.

]]> By: B29 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16924 B29 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:39:59 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16924 Seeing that this is a science-oriented website, I don't understand the need for the author to use silly phrases such as "...thoughts of extra-terrestrial origin come to mind..." and "Are they really from outer space?". Sensationalism is not fitting here, I believe. I liked the article - just, the choice of words irks me. Lee: "brazillion?!" :p Seeing that this is a science-oriented website, I don't understand the need for the author to use silly phrases such as "…thoughts of extra-terrestrial origin come to mind…" and "Are they really from outer space?". Sensationalism is not fitting here, I believe.

I liked the article – just, the choice of words irks me.

Lee: "brazillion?!" :p

]]> By: alphonso richardson http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16919 alphonso richardson Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:27:42 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16919 Just goes to show, we need to be keping tabs on all the junk we keep sending up & leaving there Just goes to show, we need to be keping tabs on all the junk we keep sending up & leaving there

]]> By: Lee http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16910 Lee Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:15:37 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16910 So THAT'S where my PokeBalls went. Careful, I think the one in Australia is Jigglypuff, which means the Brazilian one's Squirtle (by the way, Pres. Bush was recently told of a Brazilian soldier's perishing in Afghanistan. He was visibly shaken but finally said: "Is a brazillion more or less than a million?") (Rimshot, please.) So THAT'S where my PokeBalls went. Careful, I think the one in Australia is Jigglypuff, which means the Brazilian one's Squirtle (by the way, Pres. Bush was recently told of a Brazilian soldier's perishing in Afghanistan. He was visibly shaken but finally said: "Is a brazillion more or less than a million?") (Rimshot, please.)

]]> By: Kerrie http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16904 Kerrie Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:35:08 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16904 I was one of a group of people here in Australia who helped to make a tentative identification of the "mystery ball" for Jim Stirton late last year after he first found the piece of debris on his land. We identified it then as a pressure vessel possibly from an Atlas or Delta. My understanding is that he later sought confirmation from The Aerospace Corporation's Centre for Orbital and Re-entry Debris studies and they confirmed its probable identity to Mr. Stirton, as a helium bottle from a 1998 Atlas II launch, around March 21 or 22. The timing of having the identification confirmed in late March may just be a co-incidence, but I would guess that the fuss about the Brazilian find prompted Mr. Stirton to contact the media about it, once he had an indea of what it was . Maybe, as a recently drought-stricken farmer, he was hoping someone would offer to buy it! BTW, Australia is a very big, very empty landmass (think population of New York in a country the size of the US), so the likelihood of a piece of space debris hitting a population centre here is pretty low. Bits of space debris do turn up from time to time in the outback (Jim Stirton's was the second piece I'd been asked about within a few months): sometimes the material is on the ground for a long time (even years) before it is discovered, since no-one has previously passed that way to find it. I was one of a group of people here in Australia who helped to make a tentative identification of the "mystery ball" for Jim Stirton late last year after he first found the piece of debris on his land. We identified it then as a pressure vessel possibly from an Atlas or Delta.

My understanding is that he later sought confirmation from The Aerospace Corporation's Centre for Orbital and Re-entry Debris studies and they confirmed its probable identity to Mr. Stirton, as a helium bottle from a 1998 Atlas II launch, around March 21 or 22.

The timing of having the identification confirmed in late March may just be a co-incidence, but I would guess that the fuss about the Brazilian find prompted Mr. Stirton to contact the media about it, once he had an indea of what it was . Maybe, as a recently drought-stricken farmer, he was hoping someone would offer to buy it!

BTW, Australia is a very big, very empty landmass (think population of New York in a country the size of the US), so the likelihood of a piece of space debris hitting a population centre here is pretty low. Bits of space debris do turn up from time to time in the outback (Jim Stirton's was the second piece I'd been asked about within a few months): sometimes the material is on the ground for a long time (even years) before it is discovered, since no-one has previously passed that way to find it.

]]> By: Scott Houdek http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16902 Scott Houdek Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:51:09 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16902 Hmmmm, I hate to be funny, but, could be the old movie props from the movie "SPACEBALLS", hey, I could be wrong!;););) Hmmmm, I hate to be funny, but, could be the old movie props from the movie "SPACEBALLS", hey, I could be wrong!;););)

]]> By: bumblebee http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16901 bumblebee Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:05:24 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16901 Look like rather large sheep droppings to me. Large alien sheep. Large alien sheep in Australia. Large alien sheep in Australia on an intelligent Australian sheep herder's ranch. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Look like rather large sheep droppings to me. Large alien sheep. Large alien sheep in Australia. Large alien sheep in Australia on an intelligent Australian sheep herder's ranch. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

]]> By: Speakers http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-3/#comment-16900 Speakers Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:35:31 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16900 Could be from the downed satellite - true - but I like the comment about the hairball from Google Earth :) Could be from the downed satellite – true – but I like the comment about the hairball from Google Earth :)

]]> By: Larry http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-2/#comment-16893 Larry Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:07:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16893 Oo!!! It's a Dragonball. That's what they look like after you make your wish. hehe. Oo!!! It's a Dragonball. That's what they look like after you make your wish. hehe.

]]> By: John Fredericks http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-2/#comment-16892 John Fredericks Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:05:26 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16892 What kind of satellite parts has weird fur on it? What kind of satellite parts has weird fur on it?

]]> By: JosephMendiola http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-2/#comment-16888 JosephMendiola Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:33:12 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16888 A long-time Netter over at SPACE.com has argued that two Submitter-proclaimed observed NEOS were very likely the ISS + another SpaSat - however, after midnite [Guam time], I myself observed two linear large fiery balls in the sky over Hagatna, in addition to other phenomenon e.g. POSSIBLE COMET/ASTEROID STREAK OVER THE SPHERE OF THE MOON. A long-time Netter over at SPACE.com has argued that two Submitter-proclaimed observed NEOS were very likely the ISS + another SpaSat – however, after midnite [Guam time], I myself observed two linear large fiery balls in the sky over Hagatna, in addition to other phenomenon e.g. POSSIBLE COMET/ASTEROID STREAK OVER THE SPHERE OF THE MOON.

]]> By: Tom Haberthaler http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/comment-page-2/#comment-16873 Tom Haberthaler Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:05:59 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/28/the-mysterious-case-of-two-spheres-falling-to-earth-in-australia-and-brazil/#comment-16873 I sure hope that none of this space debris ever hits everyone. Seems that people in Austrailia and Brazil have been lucky this time. I mean it looks heavy and if hit by that crashing to the earth, someone may have been killed. Someone may have been hospitalized. Anyone hit by something like that ought to be entitled to multiple millions! I sure hope that none of this space debris ever hits everyone. Seems that people in Austrailia and Brazil have been lucky this time. I mean it looks heavy and if hit by that crashing to the earth, someone may have been killed. Someone may have been hospitalized. Anyone hit by something like that ought to be entitled to multiple millions!

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