Comments on: Gravity Waves in the Atmosphere can Energize Tornados (Video) http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:07:54 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: azorus http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-61172 azorus Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:41:20 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-61172 Has anyone thought to relate any of these waves to larger astronomical bodies, say the moon? Has anyone thought to relate any of these waves to larger astronomical bodies, say the moon?

]]> By: holyavengerone http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-16692 holyavengerone Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:10:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-16692 Chris, I didn't skip it and I'm still confused with the nomenclature used here ! Chris, I didn't skip it and I'm still confused with the nomenclature used here !

]]> By: Chris http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-16553 Chris Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:18:24 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-16553 I think several readers skipped over this paragraph: "A large number of things may cause gravity waves (not to be confused with gravitational waves, the ripples in space-time), including intense disturbances caused by storm systems, a sudden change in jet stream location or wind shear. The strong oscillation will then travel for hundreds or even thousands of miles." I think several readers skipped over this paragraph:

"A large number of things may cause gravity waves (not to be confused with gravitational waves, the ripples in space-time), including intense disturbances caused by storm systems, a sudden change in jet stream location or wind shear. The strong oscillation will then travel for hundreds or even thousands of miles."

]]> By: HolyAvengerOne http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-16371 HolyAvengerOne Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:35:39 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-16371 Hmm the nomenclature of these are very confusing... but I think it does differ from other more traditionally understood phenomenon as they are actually maintained by Earth's gravitational field... Ian ? Hmm the nomenclature of these are very confusing… but I think it does differ from other more traditionally understood phenomenon as they are actually maintained by Earth's gravitational field…

Ian ?

]]> By: Chris Coles http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-16032 Chris Coles Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:42:20 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-16032 Glider pilots have for many years been using standing waves in the atmosphere as a means to flying great heights and distances. The hight record was broken recently taking it to something over 50,000 ft http://www.perlanproject.com/recent_news.php?date=2006-08-30 and distance is now 3,008 Kms in a single day flying these waves. They are very well known and documented and very well researched. But they are not described as gravity waves. It seems to me that people with no answers to why their gravity research has not produced any identifiable answers are now clutching at any straw in the wind. The correct title for these waves relates to their location and are either Lee Waves when in the lee of a mountain for example or they are called Frontal waves when they appear at the edge of a weather system. Glider pilots have for many years been using standing waves in the atmosphere as a means to flying great heights and distances. The hight record was broken recently taking it to something over 50,000 ft http://www.perlanproject.com/recent_news.php?date=2006-08-30 and distance is now 3,008 Kms in a single day flying these waves. They are very well known and documented and very well researched. But they are not described as gravity waves. It seems to me that people with no answers to why their gravity research has not produced any identifiable answers are now clutching at any straw in the wind. The correct title for these waves relates to their location and are either Lee Waves when in the lee of a mountain for example or they are called Frontal waves when they appear at the edge of a weather system.

]]> By: Raven http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15997 Raven Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:57:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15997 Is there any correlation between these gravitational waves in the air and rogue waves in the ocean? Is there any correlation between these gravitational waves in the air and rogue waves in the ocean?

]]> By: joker http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15990 joker Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:13:02 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15990 Well - many universe today articles ARE technobabble or maybe sciencebabble Well – many universe today articles ARE technobabble or maybe sciencebabble

]]> By: Brian http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15978 Brian Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:46:55 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15978 Maybe we should use something similar to Star Trek's technobabble generator to name stuff like this. Maybe we should use something similar to Star Trek's technobabble generator to name stuff like this.

]]> By: smart ass http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15975 smart ass Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:20:55 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15975 gravity waves and gravitational waves gravity waves and gravitational waves

]]> By: Michael Huster http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15955 Michael Huster Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:05:42 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15955 Actually "gravity waves" in reference to these is not a new term at all. It is the general term for waves in a fluid for which the restoring force is gravity. I don't think this is an americanism. There is a further distinction between "surface gravity waves" (the waves (ocean) surfers ride), and "internal waves" that are an oscillation in the volume of a fluid. This story is about internal atmospheric waves. Internal waves have been well studied in both the atmosphere and in the ocean for a long time. (I think the US Navy has been looking for internal waves caused by submarines.) In contrast I think "bore waves" are singular waves, often caused by tides. But I'm not sure about this term. Actually "gravity waves" in reference to these is not a new term at all. It is the general term for waves in a fluid for which the restoring force is gravity. I don't think this is an americanism. There is a further distinction between "surface gravity waves" (the waves (ocean) surfers ride), and "internal waves" that are an oscillation in the volume of a fluid. This story is about internal atmospheric waves.

Internal waves have been well studied in both the atmosphere and in the ocean for a long time. (I think the US Navy has been looking for internal waves caused by submarines.)

In contrast I think "bore waves" are singular waves, often caused by tides. But I'm not sure about this term.

]]> By: Vicky Pollard http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15952 Vicky Pollard Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:44:59 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15952 That name must be an American-ism. In other parts of the world, these waves aren't called the confusing name 'gravitational waves', they're called 'undular bore waves'. That name must be an American-ism. In other parts of the world, these waves aren't called the confusing name 'gravitational waves', they're called 'undular bore waves'.

]]> By: Dark Gnat http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15951 Dark Gnat Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:31:05 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15951 Nope, entirlry different activity. Nope, entirlry different activity.

]]> By: nathan http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15948 nathan Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:45:35 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15948 Are these the same type Gravitational Waves that are trying to be detected coming from colliding black holes and such? Or are these completely different beast. I was under the impression that science has never actually detected gravity waves yet? Thanks Are these the same type Gravitational Waves that are trying to be detected coming from colliding black holes and such? Or are these completely different beast. I was under the impression that science has never actually detected gravity waves yet?

Thanks

]]> By: chewy http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15942 chewy Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:53:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15942 But airwave is a trademark already. So gravity wave sounds cooler. It gives a much better feeling, a notion of something huge and powerful and scary. Just like tornado sounds scary and powerful. But airwave is a trademark already.
So gravity wave sounds cooler.

It gives a much better feeling, a notion of something huge and powerful and scary.

Just like tornado sounds scary and powerful.

]]> By: TobiasMar http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/comment-page-1/#comment-15921 TobiasMar Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:56:46 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/19/gravity-waves-in-the-atmosphere-can-energize-tornados-video/#comment-15921 I think it would have been better to call these "atmospheric waves" or "air waves" because "gravity waves" may cause a lot of confusion. I think it would have been better to call these "atmospheric waves" or "air waves" because "gravity waves" may cause a lot of confusion.

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