Comments on: US Planning to Shoot Down Dead Spy Satellite http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/ Space and astronomy news Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:17:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Phil http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-2/#comment-13420 Phil Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:43:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-13420 re Lala China got theirs on the 4th try, and btw a low orbit sat moves much faster. In this case, twice the speed of the Chinese weather sat. re Lala

China got theirs on the 4th try, and btw a low orbit sat moves much faster. In this case, twice the speed of the Chinese weather sat.

]]> By: Charlie http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-2/#comment-13347 Charlie Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:53:09 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-13347 Where our hazmat outfit's Honey-there around here some where. Did granddad get that seller dug? Run down and buy a parakeet, too. Where our hazmat outfit's Honey-there around here some where. Did granddad get that seller dug? Run down and buy a parakeet, too.

]]> By: Logan http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-2/#comment-13286 Logan Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:48:55 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-13286 The last thing you want to do with a space shuttle is have it try to catch up to and hook up with a satellite that you cannot control. If it reacts badly to things getting near it, as I think all satellites put up by the NSA should than it might prove hazardous to the shuttle. Maybe I am being paranoid here but all the people at the NSA are paranoid to a fault. If the only people who could get to your satellite is your enemies who says they don't have a way of taking them out. The last thing you want to do with a space shuttle is have it try to catch up to and hook up with a satellite that you cannot control. If it reacts badly to things getting near it, as I think all satellites put up by the NSA should than it might prove hazardous to the shuttle. Maybe I am being paranoid here but all the people at the NSA are paranoid to a fault. If the only people who could get to your satellite is your enemies who says they don't have a way of taking them out.

]]> By: Albe http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-2/#comment-13155 Albe Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:40:02 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-13155 My God America, Wake Up. We have a Space Shuttle with an arm up there right now! Bring it back home in one piece. But what the hell, let's poke some more holes and leave more junk up in the heavens, Nobody cares. Hey! Why not send Bush up there with a broom and shovel? My God America, Wake Up.
We have a Space Shuttle with an arm up there right now! Bring it back home in one piece. But what the hell, let's poke some more holes and leave more junk up in the heavens, Nobody cares. Hey! Why not send Bush up there with a broom and shovel?

]]> By: Dark Gnat http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-2/#comment-13098 Dark Gnat Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:30:54 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-13098 The fuel tanks can survive re-entry. Remember Columbia? It seems China is putting up a fuss about shooting down the sat. Hypocrits. The fuel tanks can survive re-entry. Remember Columbia?

It seems China is putting up a fuss about shooting down the sat. Hypocrits.

]]> By: Lala http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-2/#comment-13005 Lala Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:16:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-13005 Yeah, let's show those commies what we can do given the chance. We only have to shoot the satellite 135 miles above the Earth's atmosphere, whereas China did with a distance of over 500 miles. Who wants to bet that if we don't hit the first time and get to try again within three days what that will do to our reputation as a leading world power. China did in one, I hope we can do the same. Yeah, let's show those commies what we can do given the chance. We only have to shoot the satellite 135 miles above the Earth's atmosphere, whereas China did with a distance of over 500 miles. Who wants to bet that if we don't hit the first time and get to try again within three days what that will do to our reputation as a leading world power. China did in one, I hope we can do the same.

]]> By: marcellus http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-2/#comment-12937 marcellus Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:21:45 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12937 Boo hoo hoo to all who think this is a waste of taxpayers money. This is a great chance to show Russia and China we have an outstanding missle defense system. Go Navy! Boo hoo hoo to all who think this is a waste of taxpayers money. This is a great chance to show Russia and China we have an outstanding missle defense system. Go Navy!

]]> By: Celso Paiz http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12849 Celso Paiz Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:00:38 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12849 This is not a test if it were the satellite would not have a toxin inside. This really worries me because if they destroy it pieces would still fall (including parts of the toxin). Now i wonder whose bright idea was it to send a toxin to space instead of been destroyed here on Earth? This is not a test if it were the satellite would not have a toxin inside. This really worries me because if they destroy it pieces would still fall (including parts of the toxin). Now i wonder whose bright idea was it to send a toxin to space instead of been destroyed here on Earth?

]]> By: wmm http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12763 wmm Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:46:14 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12763 If this is a technology demo, it would be much more impressive to strike the target from an angle that decelerates rather than accelerates debris, or whatever angle that would minimize space pollution. If this is a technology demo, it would be much more impressive to strike the target from an angle that decelerates rather than accelerates debris, or whatever angle that would minimize space pollution.

]]> By: Preston Willson http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12725 Preston Willson Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:35:10 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12725 The hydrazine if frozen. It is not as much danger as the media reports. This gives the Navy something to do. There are no extra cost except to replace the material used. This is not the same as any operation of the failed Star Wars program. News of this operation is great because it replaces all the crap about the election being broadcast. Glad that it did not take approval of congress to do this--If it had the event would never happen. President Bush approved this operation. Hope it is not another of his failures. Go Navy. The hydrazine if frozen. It is not as much danger as the media reports. This gives the Navy something to do. There are no extra cost except to replace the material used.
This is not the same as any operation of the failed Star Wars program. News of this operation is great because it replaces all the crap about the election being broadcast. Glad that it did not take approval of congress to do this–If it had the event would never happen. President Bush approved this operation. Hope it is not another of his failures. Go Navy.

]]> By: Zoltan Spin http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12696 Zoltan Spin Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:28:22 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12696 5 tons or so of materials will be vaporized high in the atmosphere leaving not a single bolt solid, and hydrazine could however reach safely ground to harm people ? Only tax-payers sponsored propaganda, to show China and Russia who has the biggest one. A real pity... 5 tons or so of materials will be vaporized high in the atmosphere leaving not a single bolt solid, and hydrazine could however reach safely ground to harm people ?

Only tax-payers sponsored propaganda, to show China and Russia who has the biggest one. A real pity…

]]> By: Cowboy John http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12653 Cowboy John Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:11:12 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12653 Fistly, the person that said that the fuel will burn up or boil off on re-entry is mistaken. The fuel will not boil or burn off in the tank this tank. It has been designed to withstand extreme heat. Remember that the rocket sending it into orbit had to reach a velocity of 17,500 MPH, through an atmosphere not designed to let you out without a lot of friction. Hense, EXTREME heat was endured in getting there. Give me a good reason for destroying it like to save lives and I am ok with all the conjecture of secondary reasons.. Fistly, the person that said that the fuel will burn up or boil off on re-entry is mistaken. The fuel will not boil or burn off in the tank this tank. It has been designed to withstand extreme heat. Remember that the rocket sending it into orbit had to reach a velocity of 17,500 MPH, through an atmosphere not designed to let you out without a lot of friction. Hense, EXTREME heat was endured in getting there. Give me a good reason for destroying it like to save lives and I am ok with all the conjecture of secondary reasons..

]]> By: Dan http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12650 Dan Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:11:57 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12650 Dear Ian O'neill, This is incorrect "This has been a frustrating time for the US military" Wrong, just wrong... The Clinton years were frustrating, the Carter years were frustrating. This satellite belongs to a civillian part of the US GOV... the NRO is part of the puzzle palace, the NSA. Same kind of gov unit as NASA. A more correct statment would be " This has a successful time for the US military, again young Americans in uniform rise to the call. Helping out around the globe" Also GO NAVY BEAT AIR FORCE!BZ BZ BZ BZ Dear Ian O'neill,

This is incorrect "This has been a frustrating time for the US military" Wrong, just wrong… The Clinton years were frustrating, the Carter years were frustrating. This satellite belongs to a civillian part of the US GOV… the NRO is part of the puzzle palace, the NSA. Same kind of gov unit as NASA. A more correct statment would be " This has a successful time for the US military, again young Americans in uniform rise to the call. Helping out around the globe" Also GO NAVY BEAT AIR FORCE!BZ BZ BZ BZ

]]> By: Blog de Astronomia do astroPT » Satélite em queda http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12621 Blog de Astronomia do astroPT » Satélite em queda Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:50:11 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12621 [...] destruir o satélite antes deste entrar na atmosfera terrestre. Podem ler mais sobre isto, aqui e aqui. Por outro lado, podem ver, a olho nu, o satélite a passar pelos nossos céus durante esta semana. [...]

[...] destruir o satélite antes deste entrar na atmosfera terrestre. Podem ler mais sobre isto, aqui e aqui. Por outro lado, podem ver, a olho nu, o satélite a passar pelos nossos céus durante esta semana. [...]

]]> By: john giordano http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12604 john giordano Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:58:20 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12604 People might kick the bucket if they miss. What are the effects of Hydrazine poisoning. People might kick the bucket if they miss. What are the effects of Hydrazine poisoning.

]]> By: Uwe http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12574 Uwe Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:56:29 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12574 Does anyone know if the missile will have an explosive warhead or just be an inertial impactor? I think either way someone downrange could get a great meteor show. It would be great if this was timed for darkness in the strewnfield of the debris. If the target is the pacific, any debris that overshoots could re-enter over the US. Who do we lobby to get them to do this when it is dark here? Does anyone know if the missile will have an explosive warhead or just be an inertial impactor? I think either way someone downrange could get a great meteor show. It would be great if this was timed for darkness in the strewnfield of the debris. If the target is the pacific, any debris that overshoots could re-enter over the US. Who do we lobby to get them to do this when it is dark here?

]]> By: Rev. http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12566 Rev. Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:15:25 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12566 ... Believe the statement being made by the US is self-explanatory... provided, we hit the clay (opps, exotic metal) pigeon... P U L L... … Believe the statement being made by the US is self-explanatory… provided, we hit the clay (opps, exotic metal) pigeon… P U L L…

]]> By: Rev. http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12565 Rev. Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:07:24 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12565 ... PULL... … PULL…

]]> By: Mike Carter http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12537 Mike Carter Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:56:47 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12537 U.S. planning on shooting down dead spy satelite. Alot of "saber rattling" and waste of "tax payers money " ? At least they're saying thay have a problem, and are going to fix it. I would hate to watching my fav. eppisode of "House" and have a huge spy satelite come crashing through MY roof. 50 - 50 % chance, yeah, but why gamble ? There is a much bigger waster of tax payers money waging right now, some where else. U.S. planning on shooting down dead spy satelite.
Alot of "saber rattling" and waste of "tax payers money " ?
At least they're saying thay have a problem, and are going to fix it.
I would hate to watching my fav. eppisode of "House" and have a huge spy satelite come crashing through MY roof. 50 – 50 % chance, yeah, but why gamble ?
There is a much bigger waster of tax payers money waging right now, some where else.

]]> By: Alex http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12536 Alex Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:43:14 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12536 What about using an anti-satellite missile such as the ASM-135 ASAT? What about using an anti-satellite missile such as the
ASM-135 ASAT?

]]> By: Wes Lambert http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12499 Wes Lambert Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:02:30 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12499 Obviously some saber rattling going on here, along with spending some serious taxpayer dollars. Logic sez to me that if left alone, the decaying orbit should cause the vehicle to enter the atmosphere at such a velocity that the thing should burn up nicely. Even if the propellant tank itself can resist re-entry, the propellant should boil and expand sufficiently to burst the container and dilute itself to harmless levels in the upper atmosphere. Sounds like I'm saying that polluting the stratosphere is OK?. Of course not, but if you add the amount of debris injected into the atmosphere by what becomes two vehicles and their assorted fluids coming earthward (and every last molecule will!) then you create a bigger problem than you had with one. Obviously some saber rattling going on here, along with spending some serious taxpayer dollars. Logic sez to me that if left alone, the decaying orbit should cause the vehicle to enter the atmosphere at such a velocity that the thing should burn up nicely. Even if the propellant tank itself can resist re-entry, the propellant should boil and expand sufficiently to burst the container and dilute itself to harmless levels in the upper atmosphere. Sounds like I'm saying that polluting the stratosphere is OK?. Of course not, but if you add the amount of debris injected into the atmosphere by what becomes two vehicles and their assorted fluids coming earthward (and every last molecule will!) then you create a bigger problem than you had with one.

]]> By: marcellus http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12495 marcellus Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:50:38 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12495 So they're going to shoot it down over the Pacific? Darn. There goes my fantasy about stargazing at my favorite spot with flaming space debris falling all around me while listening to Wagner's "Flight of the Valkyries". So they're going to shoot it down over the Pacific? Darn. There goes my fantasy about stargazing at my favorite spot with flaming space debris falling all around me while listening to Wagner's "Flight of the Valkyries".

]]> By: Chuck http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12487 Chuck Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:23:40 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12487 How much more impressive would it be to wait until it is mid-fall (50ish miles up), and it would insure all the parts would return to Earth instead of floating around...I'm hoping at least we get a good image of it. kcuhC How much more impressive would it be to wait until it is mid-fall (50ish miles up), and it would insure all the parts would return to Earth instead of floating around…I'm hoping at least we get a good image of it.
kcuhC

]]> By: Lawrence McCurrach http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12476 Lawrence McCurrach Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:20:21 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12476 the US has been able to shoot down satellites since the mid 1980's. There are probably several reasons for conducting this test. 1. real life test environment. 2. ecological concerns 3. demonstration of missile defense integration. the US has been able to shoot down satellites since the mid 1980's.

There are probably several reasons for conducting this test. 1. real life test environment. 2. ecological concerns 3. demonstration of missile defense integration.

]]> By: Dark Gnat http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/comment-page-1/#comment-12440 Dark Gnat Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:59:52 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/14/us-planning-to-shoot-down-dead-spy-satellite/#comment-12440 Yes, the US does like to blow stuff up. I mean really, who doesn't? No doubt, the US wants to show China (along with Iran, North Korea, and now Russia, or at least Putin it seems) that it can blast a sat out of space too. I have a feeling that there will be a new space race, that may have already started. This partly worries me, but the sci-fi geek in me thinks it's freaking cool. Yes, the US does like to blow stuff up.

I mean really, who doesn't?

No doubt, the US wants to show China (along with Iran, North Korea, and now Russia, or at least Putin it seems) that it can blast a sat out of space too. I have a feeling that there will be a new space race, that may have already started. This partly worries me, but the sci-fi geek in me thinks it's freaking cool.

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