Comments on: Extremophile Hunt Begins in Antarctica, Implications for Exobiologists http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/ Space and astronomy news Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:15:54 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: How to Get Six Pack Fast http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-63435 How to Get Six Pack Fast Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:53:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-63435 This is very up-to-date information. I think I'll share it on Facebook. This is very up-to-date information. I think I'll share it on Facebook.

]]> By: Copson http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-12176 Copson Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:41:33 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-12176 Elijah, get your silly ass over to www.talkreason.org and be refuted. The notion of a god having created all there is leads invarably to infinite regression. End of argument! Elijah, get your silly ass over to http://www.talkreason.org and be refuted. The notion of a god having created all there is leads invarably to infinite regression. End of argument!

]]> By: Sven GudenboinkHAH http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11999 Sven GudenboinkHAH Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:05:12 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11999 Oh, my! Disrespectin' evolutionists in an election year, how cliche! Scientific studies are the facts of how and why and what if. So if there is concrete proof of evolution (look outside your window Elijah- I do admire your guts though!), why is it so hard to believe that the bible was meant for morality issues in the times it was written in? It made sense when the Greeks and Romans were engaging in orgies all the time. Look how long it took humanity to advance in medicines and Science after an alternative to religion was PROVEN. IF I could travel back in time to change just one thing, it would be to introduce Logical Science 100,000 years ago. Imagine the world with religion having a bare minimum of history and effect. Technology would be 4000 years more advanced, and humanity would have one less reason to kill each other and go to war. What would terrorists kill themselves for? Just virgins? It's very amusing that ALL major religions are based on the same stories/ characters & virtually the same time frames. Just different languages. All the stories were written and embelished by different opinions depending on the message of the day. Oh yeah, and opinions are like ______'s, everybody has one. (fill in the blank-many words fit!) Oh, my! Disrespectin' evolutionists in an election year, how cliche! Scientific studies are the facts of how and why and what if. So if there is concrete proof of evolution (look outside your window Elijah- I do admire your guts though!), why is it so hard to believe that the bible was meant for morality issues in the times it was written in? It made sense when the Greeks and Romans were engaging in orgies all the time. Look how long it took humanity to advance in medicines and Science after an alternative to religion was PROVEN. IF I could travel back in time to change just one thing, it would be to introduce Logical Science 100,000 years ago. Imagine the world with religion having a bare minimum of history and effect. Technology would be 4000 years more advanced, and humanity would have one less reason to kill each other and go to war. What would terrorists kill themselves for? Just virgins? It's very amusing that ALL major religions are based on the same stories/ characters & virtually the same time frames. Just different languages. All the stories were written and embelished by different opinions depending on the message of the day. Oh yeah, and opinions are like ______'s, everybody has one. (fill in the blank-many words fit!)

]]> By: Peter K http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11971 Peter K Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:35:51 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11971 Dave, you didn't initiate the religious debate, Elijah did. Luckily, if you put up with a few crackpot blog entries (read: ignore them) then yes, the rest of us have the capability to debate logically without reducing every discussion to "why discuss...it is the will of Landrew." Dave, you didn't initiate the religious debate, Elijah did. Luckily, if you put up with a few crackpot blog entries (read: ignore them) then yes, the rest of us have the capability to debate logically without reducing every discussion to "why discuss…it is the will of Landrew."

]]> By: Dave http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11764 Dave Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:11:16 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11764 I erred in using the term "evolution" I thought this colum was read by scientific minded readers, It was not my intent to intiate a religious debate. I for one appreciate the questioning minds of scientists. I thurst for knowledge I erred in using the term "evolution" I thought this colum was read by scientific minded readers, It was not my intent to intiate a religious debate. I for one appreciate the questioning minds of scientists. I thurst for knowledge

]]> By: UNdistinguished http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11760 UNdistinguished Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:10:33 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11760 N Stone didn't take it far enough. Matter is energy. When energy "clumps up" so to speak, it turns into matter. When matter unclumps it returns to energy. I guess I'm not converting enough matter because I don't seem to have enough energy. At least that's what my wife says. Creationist / Intelligent Design people may be right, sort of... God may be the intelligent source. But, the how, when, and even where is not specified in the Bible nor any other source from God. Scientist on the other hand seem to be giving us the how, the when and the where. No conflict in my mind. Just the same story looked at from two different directions. N Stone didn't take it far enough. Matter is energy. When energy "clumps up" so to speak, it turns into matter. When matter unclumps it returns to energy. I guess I'm not converting enough matter because I don't seem to have enough energy. At least that's what my wife says.

Creationist / Intelligent Design people may be right, sort of… God may be the intelligent source. But, the how, when, and even where is not specified in the Bible nor any other source from God. Scientist on the other hand seem to be giving us the how, the when and the where. No conflict in my mind. Just the same story looked at from two different directions.

]]> By: Kootstar http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11731 Kootstar Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:11:22 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11731 My favorite scientists have been quite believers in their religion, and my favorite religious leaders had the open minds to see and believe the sciences and their proofs. New lifeforms have been discovered all over this world, even when the scientists said,"It couldn't be. they just don' come in that form!" Let's all keep an open mind. We'll get along a lot easier that way, too!! My favorite scientists have been quite believers in their religion, and my favorite religious leaders had the open minds to see and believe the sciences and their proofs.

New lifeforms have been discovered all over this world, even when the scientists said,"It couldn't be. they just don' come in that form!"

Let's all keep an open mind. We'll get along a lot easier that way, too!!

]]> By: Paul glasgow http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11726 Paul glasgow Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:59:15 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11726 re previous comments. google reformation scotland. death, gore, non-believers, all that 14th century stuff. re previous comments. google reformation scotland. death, gore, non-believers, all that 14th century stuff.

]]> By: Paul glasgow http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11724 Paul glasgow Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:57:36 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11724 every other country in the world is petrified of usa. this creationist garbage is practiced nowhere else in the world. especially when your prospective presidents have to be believers!!!! my city, glasgow, scotland is full to the bursting of american scientists who had to leave usa because they are humanists, aetheists, etc, but very nice people. you will find americans all over europe in the same boat. you guys are sleepwalking into the "reformation". remember gallileo had to recant his theories to stay alive! be very afraid my american chums. every other country in the world is petrified of usa. this creationist garbage is practiced nowhere else in the world. especially when your prospective presidents have to be believers!!!! my city, glasgow, scotland is full to the bursting of american scientists who had to leave usa because they are humanists, aetheists, etc, but very nice people. you will find americans all over europe in the same boat. you guys are sleepwalking into the "reformation". remember gallileo had to recant his theories to stay alive! be very afraid my american chums.

]]> By: N Stone http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11707 N Stone Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:05:57 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11707 Who says god didn't create evolution or even the big bang, to all you creationism beleivers. But thats not what I'm talking about. Dave and UNdistinguished probably have the best idea about this and that how most scientists veiws of life are very close-minded. Lastly, I was thinking about the origin of life yesterday after a science class on atomic bonding and reactions and realized that life is quite simply an Extremely complex chain reaction of atoms bonding, reacting and forming energy. After all, when we put food in our stomachs, our stomach cells don't "think" to break down our meal and turn it into energy and make new cells. This also led me to realize that DNA isn't really "read" but it is just another part of the chain reaction. This lead me to question whether we are as "alive" as vinigar and baking soda or a burning log. If there is anybody reading this that can communicate it with many others, please do. Who says god didn't create evolution or even the big bang, to all you creationism beleivers. But thats not what I'm talking about.

Dave and UNdistinguished probably have the best idea about this and that how most scientists veiws of life are very close-minded.

Lastly, I was thinking about the origin of life yesterday after a science class on atomic bonding and reactions and realized that life is quite simply an Extremely complex chain reaction of atoms bonding, reacting and forming energy. After all, when we put food in our stomachs, our stomach cells don't "think" to break down our meal and turn it into energy and make new cells. This also led me to realize that DNA isn't really "read" but it is just another part of the chain reaction.
This lead me to question whether we are as "alive" as vinigar and baking soda or a burning log.

If there is anybody reading this that can communicate it with many others, please do.

]]> By: Thomas Boettcher http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11695 Thomas Boettcher Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:53:15 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11695 Evolution is an observation - nothing that is to be challenged from a rational point of view. The only theory is how evolution works! Regarding the term Exobiology: It was originally given to aim on extraterrestrial biology. However, since the best and simplest way to study the limits of life and other issues is to do research on earth, the name for this field was replaced by Astrobiology. Evolution is an observation – nothing that is to be challenged from a rational point of view. The only theory is how evolution works!
Regarding the term Exobiology: It was originally given to aim on extraterrestrial biology. However, since the best and simplest way to study the limits of life and other issues is to do research on earth, the name for this field was replaced by Astrobiology.

]]> By: Justine Ayers http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11675 Justine Ayers Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:31:11 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11675 exobiology is actually the incorrect term to use. Since they are studying extreme lifeforms on earth, I do not thing "exo" which means outside should be appled there. Astrobiology is a more correct term actually there is a whole field called Astrobiology and it has pretty much done away with the term Exobiology. Dysturbed exobiology is actually the incorrect term to use. Since they are studying extreme lifeforms on earth, I do not thing "exo" which means outside should be appled there. Astrobiology is a more correct term actually there is a whole field called Astrobiology and it has pretty much done away with the term Exobiology.

Dysturbed

]]> By: Owen http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11674 Owen Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:29:27 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11674 Evolution is not ' a ridiculous theory at best '. All the evidence is there. Thinking evolution isn't real is completely stupid. I'm not saying God isn't real but evolution is very real. Evolution is not ' a ridiculous theory at best '. All the evidence is there. Thinking evolution isn't real is completely stupid. I'm not saying God isn't real but evolution is very real.

]]> By: logan http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11672 logan Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:24:28 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11672 when is someone going to explain to these "creationists" what the accepted definition of theory really is? the phrase it's just a theory sounds so ridiculous to me, and i am not the only one. when is someone going to explain to these "creationists" what the accepted definition of theory really is? the phrase it's just a theory sounds so ridiculous to me, and i am not the only one.

]]> By: stargazerdude http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11664 stargazerdude Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:34:57 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11664 What I like best is how the LORD created the Earth about six thousand years ago? ...but cleverly disguised all the evidence (verily; a mountain) to LOOK like the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Ha-ha! What a kidder! It's best not to argue with the creationists; sorry, "intelligent design" people, as they do not understand nor respect the scientific method and, to them, their argument is air tight. What I like best is how the LORD created the Earth about six thousand years ago? …but cleverly disguised all the evidence (verily; a mountain) to LOOK like the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Ha-ha! What a kidder!

It's best not to argue with the creationists; sorry, "intelligent design" people, as they do not understand nor respect the scientific method and, to them, their argument is air tight.

]]> By: Elijah http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11661 Elijah Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:20:28 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11661 Life is adaptable because the Lord made it so. This silly talk of evolution (a ridiculous theory at best) keeps popping up whenever the "scientists" can't find answers. Wake up "scientists" the answer has been around a long, long, time. Find something better to do with your time, other than miseducating generations. What a waste of time, money, energy and faith. Life is adaptable because the Lord made it so. This silly talk of evolution (a ridiculous theory at best) keeps popping up whenever the "scientists" can't find answers. Wake up "scientists" the answer has been around a long, long, time. Find something better to do with your time, other than miseducating generations. What a waste of time, money, energy and faith.

]]> By: UNdistinguished http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11647 UNdistinguished Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:36:31 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11647 Maybe we should also look for non-carbon/oxygen based life. We may be living in the middle of a pool of life forms we have yet to recognize. Who is looking for silicon/oxygen, or iron/whatever life? Then it may be that we will not or can not recognize other life because we have no way to test or set standards of life in other forms. But, let's keep looking. We may very well be the alien invaders living on top of the natural and original life on earth. Kinda scifi, huh? Maybe we should also look for non-carbon/oxygen based life. We may be living in the middle of a pool of life forms we have yet to recognize. Who is looking for silicon/oxygen, or iron/whatever life? Then it may be that we will not or can not recognize other life because we have no way to test or set standards of life in other forms. But, let's keep looking. We may very well be the alien invaders living on top of the natural and original life on earth. Kinda scifi, huh?

]]> By: Johnny Blues http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11640 Johnny Blues Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:43:04 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11640 A day will come, when the increased ability to search for planetary objects is going to collide head on with exobiology. These two fields are quite exciting and the limits of our imagination will be pierced and expanded at an exponential rate. Once labeled "Wild West" fields of study are going to be producing jaw dropping changes to our current parameters as to life and where it exists. A day will come, when the increased ability to search for planetary objects is going to collide head on with exobiology. These two fields are quite exciting and the limits of our imagination will be pierced and expanded at an exponential rate. Once labeled "Wild West" fields of study are going to be producing jaw dropping changes to our current parameters as to life and where it exists.

]]> By: Dave http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/comment-page-1/#comment-11587 Dave Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:12:53 +0000 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/08/extremophile-hunt-begins-in-antarctica-implications-for-exobiologists/#comment-11587 I think maybe we are overlooking the fact that life once established is very adaptable. To say that life could "develop" under these conditions simply overlooks the fact of evolution. I think only if these so called "extreme life forms" do not share the DNA structure like all other lifeforms on this planet and cannot be linked to other life then we could feel secure that life of some form could develop in extreme conditions I think maybe we are overlooking the fact that life once established is very adaptable. To say that life could "develop" under these conditions simply overlooks the fact of evolution. I think only if these so called "extreme life forms" do not share the DNA structure like all other lifeforms on this planet and cannot be linked to other life then we could feel secure that life of some form could develop in extreme conditions

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