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	<title>Comments on: Dark Matter and Dark Energy&#8230; the Same Thing?</title>
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		<title>By: eric ahlstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-64109</link>
		<dc:creator>eric ahlstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you ask me Dark energy/matter is actually the finger prints of the super-strings that existed at the time of the Big Bang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ask me Dark energy/matter is actually the finger prints of the super-strings that existed at the time of the Big Bang.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-63573</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, said &quot;These concepts still seem a bit far fetched to me and I, like many others, would like to see either of these detected and measured for the first time before I am satisfied that everyone is on the right track. A little bit of reserved judgement and skepticism is always healthy. I always find it amusing how cosmologists can become absolutist when someone questions the existance of these entities which have yet to be independently observed and measured. To such people I ask is this a religion or a scientific dicipline?&quot;

I&#039;m requoting so much of what he says because he says it well.  I really enjoy the physics theories.  I get a little weirded out, though, when physicists (or journalists) start quoting them as being simiply true.  It may be a long time before we understand such things.  And we need to keep open the possibility that we may never understand such things.  A bunch of creatures with three-pound brains, located at what is essentially a single point in an astonishingly vast continuum, may have neither the opportunity nor the wherewithal to observe or explain all aspects of the cosmos.  A little humility might be wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, said &#034;These concepts still seem a bit far fetched to me and I, like many others, would like to see either of these detected and measured for the first time before I am satisfied that everyone is on the right track. A little bit of reserved judgement and skepticism is always healthy. I always find it amusing how cosmologists can become absolutist when someone questions the existance of these entities which have yet to be independently observed and measured. To such people I ask is this a religion or a scientific dicipline?&#034;</p>
<p>I&#039;m requoting so much of what he says because he says it well.  I really enjoy the physics theories.  I get a little weirded out, though, when physicists (or journalists) start quoting them as being simiply true.  It may be a long time before we understand such things.  And we need to keep open the possibility that we may never understand such things.  A bunch of creatures with three-pound brains, located at what is essentially a single point in an astonishingly vast continuum, may have neither the opportunity nor the wherewithal to observe or explain all aspects of the cosmos.  A little humility might be wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Laszlo GYORIK</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-61367</link>
		<dc:creator>Laszlo GYORIK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More thougts on a celestial curtain. 
This dark matter takes up most of the universe,does it have gravity?If not,how comes that it can bend light?any thoughjts anybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More thougts on a celestial curtain.<br />
This dark matter takes up most of the universe,does it have gravity?If not,how comes that it can bend light?any thoughjts anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Laszlo GYORIK</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-61004</link>
		<dc:creator>Laszlo GYORIK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When solomon was dedicating the Temple to GOD, he says that our God dwells in the THICK DARKNESS. Is it possible that Dark Matter is a celestial curtain that hides Heaven just as there was a curtain that hid the Tabernacle within the Earthly Temple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When solomon was dedicating the Temple to GOD, he says that our God dwells in the THICK DARKNESS. Is it possible that Dark Matter is a celestial curtain that hides Heaven just as there was a curtain that hid the Tabernacle within the Earthly Temple.</p>
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		<title>By: Nirmalendu Das</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-57298</link>
		<dc:creator>Nirmalendu Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To, 
The Head of the Authority of NASA, 

Sir,

Kindly go through this page for the benefit of the scientific world. 

As per different report received from Internet that NASA is doing lot of scientific works on physics &amp; astrophysics. It requires to more improve on the subject of the creation of the universe. I want to give suggestion that you may go through “Mystery of Origin of the Universe” and “Complete Unified Theory” written by me and totally scientific work in which NASA can get many information and may discover that in what way particle, stars, etc can give energy; in what way the particles, stars, galaxies, universe created. We know that Einstein energy equation is E = mc2, but do not know that what is the internal function of m with effect of c2 during emission of energy E ? You cannot answer of this from our traditional theories. But you can get answer of this from my books. Also we do not know about “Unification of Physics” and “Complete Unified Theory” till now, scientists are trying for this from 1873, many theories like string, super symmetry, GUT, Big Bang etc came into the picture, but no theory can explain abut the creation of the actual form of the particle, universe. With the help of single theory “Complete Unified Theory”, it is possible to explain all phenomena from the particle to the universe. I found that the quantum circulation of Black Hole is 3.0440727x10-26 m2 / sec , mass of a photon is 1.65961x10-54 gram; it can explain the structure of electron and can define the structure of electromagnetic radiation. There are till unknown to us. Likewise, lot of things is there which are most interesting. 

You can search this book from Websites. So if you want to do work on this subject, may contact me. 
Email: nirmalgopa@yahoo.co.in , Mob: India 09475089337 

 Dated: 06-03-2009                                                Yours faithfully,
                                                                               Nirmalendu Das</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To,<br />
The Head of the Authority of NASA, </p>
<p>Sir,</p>
<p>Kindly go through this page for the benefit of the scientific world. </p>
<p>As per different report received from Internet that NASA is doing lot of scientific works on physics &amp; astrophysics. It requires to more improve on the subject of the creation of the universe. I want to give suggestion that you may go through “Mystery of Origin of the Universe” and “Complete Unified Theory” written by me and totally scientific work in which NASA can get many information and may discover that in what way particle, stars, etc can give energy; in what way the particles, stars, galaxies, universe created. We know that Einstein energy equation is E = mc2, but do not know that what is the internal function of m with effect of c2 during emission of energy E ? You cannot answer of this from our traditional theories. But you can get answer of this from my books. Also we do not know about “Unification of Physics” and “Complete Unified Theory” till now, scientists are trying for this from 1873, many theories like string, super symmetry, GUT, Big Bang etc came into the picture, but no theory can explain abut the creation of the actual form of the particle, universe. With the help of single theory “Complete Unified Theory”, it is possible to explain all phenomena from the particle to the universe. I found that the quantum circulation of Black Hole is 3.0440727&#215;10-26 m2 / sec , mass of a photon is 1.65961&#215;10-54 gram; it can explain the structure of electron and can define the structure of electromagnetic radiation. There are till unknown to us. Likewise, lot of things is there which are most interesting. </p>
<p>You can search this book from Websites. So if you want to do work on this subject, may contact me.<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:nirmalgopa@yahoo.co.in">nirmalgopa@yahoo.co.in</a> , Mob: India 09475089337 </p>
<p> Dated: 06-03-2009                                                Yours faithfully,<br />
                                                                               Nirmalendu Das</p>
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		<title>By: Nirmalendu Das</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-42541</link>
		<dc:creator>Nirmalendu Das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For UNIVERSE TODAY 
I want to say that we know the Structure of atom, but do not know that how many photons are present in an atom in the form of energy? No one can give answer of this question as Planck constant that E = h? is the energy of some packet of photons. Again, I can ask question that how many photons are present in E when E = mc2? or what is the internal function of m when m is acting with c2 ? In what way the particle is producing energy in the form of photons? What is the structure of electron, EMR? In what way the Universe was created? What is the actual form of it? Lot of questions are there. I solved it and published book as given here: 1) Mystery of Origin of the Universe (1990),                  2) Complete Unified Theory (1998). 
But scientists are trying to establish the Dark matter and Dark energy. What is the mass of it? With out mass we can not think about energy. If E = mc2 is not obeying this rule, then why Einstein equation? Why matter, Why energy? Are matter occupies in the Dark space? What is the utility of dark matter? Is Dark energy can solve the birth of the Universe? If Dark matter and Dark energy are in together, then is it possible to write     ED x MD = MD2 x c2 = (MD x c) 2 , it is showing the momentum of the particle. Thus the dark matter is not able to form energy until unless it functioned in the form of E = mc2. Again what is the mass of a Dark matter? Without knowing the mass, it is not possible to find the energy of it. So, no need to think over it, until we not know the accurate mass of a photon which is very practical.  We can say, without light we see dark only. Light or photon is the all source of energy. At first it is require finding the mass of a photon accurately. The group of scientists or investigators are trying to find out the mass of photon experimentally, but obtained results are not tallying with other investigators. So, it is in the dark till now. I calculated the mass of a photon accurately and written in my book mentioned above. You can get my comments and hints on the complete unified theory / Mystery of origin of the universe from the website given bellow: 
1) SAO/NASA ADS Astronomy (ABSTRACT:  A scholarly treatise on the mass of photon or its properties which has been the source of many discoveries regarding the matter (Universe).
 2) nirmalgopa@Everything2.com, 3) Experiments at CERN help us understand the world we live in ..., 4) books search- The Library, The Abdus Salam International Centre ...,  5) Scientists break the speed of light - Business - iTnews Australia,                    6) Amazon.co.uk: Mystery of origin of the universe, 7) SB Berlin PK – Search Short List-[ Translate ], Andy Evans. ... Complete unified theory / Nirmalendu Das. – 1. ed. ..., 8) Table of Contents I-001 Microwave Applications in 
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML S-005 The Mass of a Photon is the Key of all Source of Energy &amp; the Result of Complete Unified. Theory; It can Explain the Structure of Electron, ...
Website -http://unifiedtheorynirmalendudas.synthasite.com
Thank you Universe. 
 Dated: 24/11/2008                             Nirmalendu Das, Siliguri, West Bengal, INDIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For UNIVERSE TODAY<br />
I want to say that we know the Structure of atom, but do not know that how many photons are present in an atom in the form of energy? No one can give answer of this question as Planck constant that E = h? is the energy of some packet of photons. Again, I can ask question that how many photons are present in E when E = mc2? or what is the internal function of m when m is acting with c2 ? In what way the particle is producing energy in the form of photons? What is the structure of electron, EMR? In what way the Universe was created? What is the actual form of it? Lot of questions are there. I solved it and published book as given here: 1) Mystery of Origin of the Universe (1990),                  2) Complete Unified Theory (1998).<br />
But scientists are trying to establish the Dark matter and Dark energy. What is the mass of it? With out mass we can not think about energy. If E = mc2 is not obeying this rule, then why Einstein equation? Why matter, Why energy? Are matter occupies in the Dark space? What is the utility of dark matter? Is Dark energy can solve the birth of the Universe? If Dark matter and Dark energy are in together, then is it possible to write     ED x MD = MD2 x c2 = (MD x c) 2 , it is showing the momentum of the particle. Thus the dark matter is not able to form energy until unless it functioned in the form of E = mc2. Again what is the mass of a Dark matter? Without knowing the mass, it is not possible to find the energy of it. So, no need to think over it, until we not know the accurate mass of a photon which is very practical.  We can say, without light we see dark only. Light or photon is the all source of energy. At first it is require finding the mass of a photon accurately. The group of scientists or investigators are trying to find out the mass of photon experimentally, but obtained results are not tallying with other investigators. So, it is in the dark till now. I calculated the mass of a photon accurately and written in my book mentioned above. You can get my comments and hints on the complete unified theory / Mystery of origin of the universe from the website given bellow:<br />
1) SAO/NASA ADS Astronomy (ABSTRACT:  A scholarly treatise on the mass of photon or its properties which has been the source of many discoveries regarding the matter (Universe).<br />
 2) <a href="mailto:nirmalgopa@Everything2.com">nirmalgopa@Everything2.com</a>, 3) Experiments at CERN help us understand the world we live in &#8230;, 4) books search- The Library, The Abdus Salam International Centre &#8230;,  5) Scientists break the speed of light &#8211; Business &#8211; iTnews Australia,                    6) Amazon.co.uk: Mystery of origin of the universe, 7) SB Berlin PK – Search Short List-[ Translate ], Andy Evans. &#8230; Complete unified theory / Nirmalendu Das. – 1. ed. &#8230;, <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Table of Contents I-001 Microwave Applications in<br />
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat &#8211; View as HTML S-005 The Mass of a Photon is the Key of all Source of Energy &amp; the Result of Complete Unified. Theory; It can Explain the Structure of Electron, &#8230;<br />
Website -http://unifiedtheorynirmalendudas.synthasite.com<br />
Thank you Universe.<br />
 Dated: 24/11/2008                             Nirmalendu Das, Siliguri, West Bengal, INDIA</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad Sujadi</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-37082</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad Sujadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If big bang had been making full of rotating objects, that must from random rotating bang center. Propagation galaxies must be one of this another random rotating seem like foams are happen in ocean of the dark matter. You know that pulsar or galaxy have planar rotating on 2 dimension,  but center of big bang must have many rotating  in space-time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If big bang had been making full of rotating objects, that must from random rotating bang center. Propagation galaxies must be one of this another random rotating seem like foams are happen in ocean of the dark matter. You know that pulsar or galaxy have planar rotating on 2 dimension,  but center of big bang must have many rotating  in space-time.</p>
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		<title>By: Unnamed</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-33322</link>
		<dc:creator>Unnamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW...Chuck Lam&#039;s explanation matches that found in the Urantia Book&#039;s chapter &quot;Energy, Mind and Matter &quot;(printed 1955... electronic version can be downloaded free)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW&#8230;Chuck Lam&#039;s explanation matches that found in the Urantia Book&#039;s chapter &#034;Energy, Mind and Matter &#034;(printed 1955&#8230; electronic version can be downloaded free)</p>
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		<title>By: steven david clark</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-33211</link>
		<dc:creator>steven david clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dark matter &amp; dark energy - is space matter between our expanding universe and the walls of the sphere in which our universe is located.  Both their functions is to filter out the energy before going thru the wormholes into the next sphere that is wrapped around us.  &quot;The Creation of the Universe using the string theory and the reality of the gene.&quot;  You want to know ask me about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dark matter &amp; dark energy &#8211; is space matter between our expanding universe and the walls of the sphere in which our universe is located.  Both their functions is to filter out the energy before going thru the wormholes into the next sphere that is wrapped around us.  &#034;The Creation of the Universe using the string theory and the reality of the gene.&#034;  You want to know ask me about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daren</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-32672</link>
		<dc:creator>Daren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Chuck.  But then there had to be matter at the beginning to create the energy that is now pushing the universe apart.  Seems like chicken-and-egg to me.  However, not being a science guy I could have read you wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Chuck.  But then there had to be matter at the beginning to create the energy that is now pushing the universe apart.  Seems like chicken-and-egg to me.  However, not being a science guy I could have read you wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Lam</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-31598</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!  Everyone slow down.  Let&#039;s look at the logic of all we a talking about.  Let&#039;s start with energy and matter.  We know, or at least we think we know that energy is one form of matter and matter is a form of energy.  So, it it reasonable to think that some form of energy just had to exist prior the big bang.  Otherwise where did the building blocks of all that we see come from?    The big bang may be as simple as this pre-universe energy morphing at some unknown rate  into this mysterious stuff we are having trouble explaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!  Everyone slow down.  Let&#039;s look at the logic of all we a talking about.  Let&#039;s start with energy and matter.  We know, or at least we think we know that energy is one form of matter and matter is a form of energy.  So, it it reasonable to think that some form of energy just had to exist prior the big bang.  Otherwise where did the building blocks of all that we see come from?    The big bang may be as simple as this pre-universe energy morphing at some unknown rate  into this mysterious stuff we are having trouble explaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Webster</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-30788</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dark matter is bullshit.  It&#039;s just as bad as Einstein&#039;s comsological constant and his denial of black holes.  To say I  perceive some problem which I can&#039;t explain and the to say &quot;here is the unknown reason is absurd.&quot;  Oh    well.   Dark matter is a joke.  I am a simple man and can see this from a thousand  miles away.

Dave Webster</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dark matter is bullshit.  It&#039;s just as bad as Einstein&#039;s comsological constant and his denial of black holes.  To say I  perceive some problem which I can&#039;t explain and the to say &#034;here is the unknown reason is absurd.&#034;  Oh    well.   Dark matter is a joke.  I am a simple man and can see this from a thousand  miles away.</p>
<p>Dave Webster</p>
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		<title>By: cecilia</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-4/#comment-26572</link>
		<dc:creator>cecilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, really sounds like &quot;and Gd hovered over the waters&quot;

i don&#039;t know guys, sounds like macroscopic electrochemicals to me. I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, really sounds like &#034;and Gd hovered over the waters&#034;</p>
<p>i don&#039;t know guys, sounds like macroscopic electrochemicals to me. I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: COWBOY</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-25732</link>
		<dc:creator>COWBOY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of what has been said has been very intriguing, although I have yet to see anyone mention a complete possibility.  I offer an insight that has not been refuted to my knowledge.
           Take, c = the past, b = the present and a = the future, then time, as we perceive it goes in the direction of c, b, a.  Time as we all know, has been around before us and when we got here our ancestors, up to us, have always perceived time as c, b, a.  I submit that the fourth dimension (time), is the catalyst.  An example of this would be when you are sitting in your car in the center lane and there are two cars on either side of you.  The two cars on either side of your car move slowly and simultaneously backwards, you will perceive it as if you were moving forward, even though you are sitting still.   Suppose timeâ€™s natural motion is to move through space as a, b, c, (in our perspective, reverse).  This could get a little complicated, being that this would mean that we all know what is going to happen after the present, (our past) but we would not know what is going to happen before our present, (our future).  Gravity has been shown to be getting weaker and disappearing from our universe in our perspective, but in my concept, gravity would be getting stronger and everything in our universe would be coming together and in about 13 billion years we will have a big collapse (BIG BANG).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of what has been said has been very intriguing, although I have yet to see anyone mention a complete possibility.  I offer an insight that has not been refuted to my knowledge.<br />
           Take, c = the past, b = the present and a = the future, then time, as we perceive it goes in the direction of c, b, a.  Time as we all know, has been around before us and when we got here our ancestors, up to us, have always perceived time as c, b, a.  I submit that the fourth dimension (time), is the catalyst.  An example of this would be when you are sitting in your car in the center lane and there are two cars on either side of you.  The two cars on either side of your car move slowly and simultaneously backwards, you will perceive it as if you were moving forward, even though you are sitting still.   Suppose timeâ€™s natural motion is to move through space as a, b, c, (in our perspective, reverse).  This could get a little complicated, being that this would mean that we all know what is going to happen after the present, (our past) but we would not know what is going to happen before our present, (our future).  Gravity has been shown to be getting weaker and disappearing from our universe in our perspective, but in my concept, gravity would be getting stronger and everything in our universe would be coming together and in about 13 billion years we will have a big collapse (BIG BANG).</p>
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		<title>By: almost clueless</title>
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		<dc:creator>almost clueless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am only in high school and do not know very much about this kind of stuff but I find it very interesting when I find out more things. But what if the big bang, &quot;bursting forth of matter from a single point&quot;, really did happen but was caused by antimatter colliding into matter, because I heard that if that happens there would be a humungous explotion. If this is true that could explain why the universe is expanding. Maybe we only see it as expanding but it is only stretching out. This could be causing the acceleration of the universe because the gravitational pull of everything is thinning out. The &quot;explotion&quot; caused by antimatter and matter colliding could have also created the dark matter and energy. It could be a product of anti- and matter meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am only in high school and do not know very much about this kind of stuff but I find it very interesting when I find out more things. But what if the big bang, &#034;bursting forth of matter from a single point&#034;, really did happen but was caused by antimatter colliding into matter, because I heard that if that happens there would be a humungous explotion. If this is true that could explain why the universe is expanding. Maybe we only see it as expanding but it is only stretching out. This could be causing the acceleration of the universe because the gravitational pull of everything is thinning out. The &#034;explotion&#034; caused by antimatter and matter colliding could have also created the dark matter and energy. It could be a product of anti- and matter meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Lam</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-24931</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the pre-universe void occupied by the present visible universe contained the &quot;dark energy&quot; of creation that is mystifying us.  And the  &quot;dark matter&quot; we detect currently could be a condensation of this primordial void energy into matter.  Crazy?  Maybe not!  The estimated 3:1 ratio of &quot;dark energy to matter&quot; that probably existed at the start of the original &quot;big bang&quot; may explain the residual background heat detected today.  Condensing the 3 of energy into the 1 of matter may be the case here and is still in progress, albeit, on a scale we simply can&#039;t detect.  The classic &quot;bursting forth of matter from a single point&quot; big bang theory is highly questionable.  There appears to be entirely too much chaos in the universe for all matter to have &quot;bursted forth from a single point.&quot;  A single point origination suggests there should be more uniformity of motion due to straight-line momentum.  The accelerating expansion of the visible universe could be a &quot;thinning our&quot; of galixies resulting in a weaking of gravity producing the expansion effect.  A bit like 32 fps/fps, only on a mind bending scale.  Could be the universe hasn&#039;t yet reached terminal velocity.  I suspect we fail to see the simplicity of all that perplexs us in the visible universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the pre-universe void occupied by the present visible universe contained the &#034;dark energy&#034; of creation that is mystifying us.  And the  &#034;dark matter&#034; we detect currently could be a condensation of this primordial void energy into matter.  Crazy?  Maybe not!  The estimated 3:1 ratio of &#034;dark energy to matter&#034; that probably existed at the start of the original &#034;big bang&#034; may explain the residual background heat detected today.  Condensing the 3 of energy into the 1 of matter may be the case here and is still in progress, albeit, on a scale we simply can&#039;t detect.  The classic &#034;bursting forth of matter from a single point&#034; big bang theory is highly questionable.  There appears to be entirely too much chaos in the universe for all matter to have &#034;bursted forth from a single point.&#034;  A single point origination suggests there should be more uniformity of motion due to straight-line momentum.  The accelerating expansion of the visible universe could be a &#034;thinning our&#034; of galixies resulting in a weaking of gravity producing the expansion effect.  A bit like 32 fps/fps, only on a mind bending scale.  Could be the universe hasn&#039;t yet reached terminal velocity.  I suspect we fail to see the simplicity of all that perplexs us in the visible universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-24591</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL on time and how we change it as needed because it is an arbitary unit to measure our existence and events in it ... time zones.

The server says posted 8:47pm whereas my PC clock here in the UK says 4:47am</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL on time and how we change it as needed because it is an arbitary unit to measure our existence and events in it &#8230; time zones.</p>
<p>The server says posted 8:47pm whereas my PC clock here in the UK says 4:47am</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-24590</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of time. Is it not true that all forms of radiation are emitted from our sun, so what effect would that have on an atomic clock as it passed into the earth&#039;s shadow?

You would get a time &quot;increase&quot; reading on your clock in direct sunlight and this would be curved due to the simple fact that as your path approached 90 degrees to the stream it would cut through more of them (like rain in a moving car seems heavier effect). and then decrease again as you went into the shadows, peaking at an all time low directly behind the earth, but this effect due to distortion by atmosphere and earth&#039;s mgnetic and gravitational effects would produce a non-circular distortion on our clocks reading if not continuously subtracting only the background influence on an identical counter at almost the exact same spot (or as near as can be).

This effect would mean that our atomic clocks would show an effect of time increase and decrease effects as if time were distorted by the earth&#039;s shadow.

That would certainly explain a few &quot;time&quot; issues and the problems associated with the &quot;time-gravity well&quot; theory in that it does not quite fit!

In fact it&#039;s a bit like re-inventing the sundial but keeping track of it digitally then wondering why it loses time overnight if you can imagine such a scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of time. Is it not true that all forms of radiation are emitted from our sun, so what effect would that have on an atomic clock as it passed into the earth&#039;s shadow?</p>
<p>You would get a time &#034;increase&#034; reading on your clock in direct sunlight and this would be curved due to the simple fact that as your path approached 90 degrees to the stream it would cut through more of them (like rain in a moving car seems heavier effect). and then decrease again as you went into the shadows, peaking at an all time low directly behind the earth, but this effect due to distortion by atmosphere and earth&#039;s mgnetic and gravitational effects would produce a non-circular distortion on our clocks reading if not continuously subtracting only the background influence on an identical counter at almost the exact same spot (or as near as can be).</p>
<p>This effect would mean that our atomic clocks would show an effect of time increase and decrease effects as if time were distorted by the earth&#039;s shadow.</p>
<p>That would certainly explain a few &#034;time&#034; issues and the problems associated with the &#034;time-gravity well&#034; theory in that it does not quite fit!</p>
<p>In fact it&#039;s a bit like re-inventing the sundial but keeping track of it digitally then wondering why it loses time overnight if you can imagine such a scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-24589</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electron Mass Me=9.1093818872e-31
Proton Mass Mp=1.67215813e-27
Neutron Mass Mn=1.6749271613e-27
Difference in mass of proton and neutron is 2.7690312999999995e-30 (possibly the mass of an neutrino or quark. )

1/3 mass of an electron is:
Mx=3.0397576194394586

Integerizing this slightly we can see the mass of a proton is very close to the mass of a neutron minus the mass of an electron, the rest can be possibly explained by energy release as some form of EM radiation and the kinetic energy required to keep the electron spinning around the nucleus, which may well be faster than the speed of light as if you read more carefully and correctly the equation E=mcÂ² (wether correct or not is not the debate here) is possible as the speed at which all matter becomes energy is cÂ² (not c as popularly misconstrued.)
Mn/Mp=1.0016559625853087
Is this the ratio of elementals in each particular particle.

IF electron is base unit(1) then should be integer number within proton.
Mp/me=1835.6439006576552
IF electron is base unit(1) then should be integer number within neutron.
Mn/me=1838.6836582770947
Could actually say fractional part is due to error at this level and for ease of sums say:
No. of electrons per proton is:1836
No. of electrons per neutron is:1839
As measurements increase in accuracy, there is a slight upward trend in the value of mn,mp and me but this is such that
The trend suggests mn/me tends towards 1836 while mp/me tends towards 1836. As increase in descrepency on mp is greater than that in me This is only a difference of only 3 units which as postulated by Quark theory that an electron is a group of 3 quarks(-+-) grouping is rather suprising, that is to say that by removing the same 3 basic units of an electron from a neutron you&#039;d get a proton.

Even without rounding the figure is only:
1835.6439006576552/1838.6836582770947=-3.0397576194395697 or to put it another way accounts for a pretty accurate 99.83467750932817% of the mass of the electron, considering the errors that could creep in on such small scales this is pretty damn fantastic I&#039;d say and so far involves no special case maths and quite possibly simply follows the same rules as the rest of the universe!

In fact these slight errors could be easily dismissed as errors in magnitudes of 10 from the true number of particles within each subatomic particle.

For example would the same hold true to the figures if the unit of mass of the absolute small particle was not 1/3 of the mass of an electron... but by moving along the scale of the figure 3.03646062906... recurring, we could equally say this is 303 particles and the 0.646062906666..7 is the error. Would it still hold true for the rest of the workings to the same level of accuracy in that
The proton+electron = neutron. AND neutron/mass of particle AND proton/mass of particle are whole numbers (near enough) and that these hold true to the numbers above in that
particles/neutron = particles/proton + particles/election. And also that if particles/electron is odd then particles/neutron=even and particles/proton=odd.
In a C program this could be written as fullfilling the requirements.
(ParticlesPerNeutron==ParticlesPerProton+ParticlesPerElectron) &amp;&amp; 
((ParticlesPerElectron &amp; 1)==(ParticlesPerProton&amp;1)) &amp;&amp; 
((ParticlesPerElectron &amp; 1)!=(ParticlesPerNeutron&amp;1))

This I will not go into here as there is no need, for the basic rule should follow of all the groups and subgroups within whatever particles are found until the ultimate singular particle is found (if indeed it ever can or will be and isn&#039;t some singularity as some suggest blinking in and out of existence).

In theory other conditions could be met too, such as ParticlesPerParticle should be able to fit in a perfect equal sided lattice of perfect spheres in each case, that&#039;s assuming they are to be spherical and all equal in size, as there a lot of gumph on sub-atomic physics and it seems almost anyone can make it up but irrelevant of this I think it is most likely that the very very basic building block, no matter what it is would be spherical in overall effect as particulate form.

Not spherical objects would defy most common sense of equal distribution due to equal forces throughout the singularity which is at least possibly the one thing most physisists can agree upon when dealing at the level of a single unit with no outside influences at all except its own internal binding, however completely unlikely or indeed impossible such a possibility would exist anywhere in the universe!

A similar theory was postulated by the man who predicted the existence of quarks!

The reason the &quot;Dark matter&quot; was invented is in fact that scientists are arrogant enough to think they can estimate the mass of the universe when they do not even know what percentage of it they can yet see, much like answering the conundrum:
&quot;On the other side of a piece of paper is a length of cotton, through a small hole you can see only 2 inches of the cotton, how long is the cotton in total and what percentage of the cotton can you see?&quot; 

The whole problem with quark theory is how do you arrange only + and - in a clump so that there are no ++ interactions and no--interactions... when there is not another force at this &quot;primary&quot; level in fact it is theoretically and practically impossible.

Going along this line obviously facilitates the need for a neutral particle in the model so either there is +- and neutral or just a minus and a neutral (or a plus and a neutral for that matter) 

In fact it feels better in the gut to think of a positron as having a &quot;lack&quot; of electrical charge than the opposite of it and so these are the neutral part. After-all it was at once standard scientific practice to measure the well know Volts as &quot;Potential difference&quot;.

In fact though simple is possibly the best explanation that we have at present.

An electron is thus a minus-nuetral-neutral combination as this is the only possible combination where there is no -- repulsion from itself wherin it would tear itself apart.

A proton is in effect 1836 of these 3 bit combinations and A neutron is in effect 1839 of these 3 bit combinations in this simple model.

If we break this down further then the sum totals is 1839 (neutron):1839 (electron+proton).

The proportion of these particles in the universe is thus most likely to be 1:1 in the universe.

A &quot;positron&quot; is thus (N-N)
An &quot;Electron&quot; is thus (-N-)

A note on the apparent occurence of positrions in a Neutral-negative model. The effect of magnetism in one direction is the result on the interaction on a particle that is 
-N- or where charge outweighs mass. Whereas under reverse conditions when neutral particles outnumbercharged particles then the effect is reversed.

Conclusion:For the above to happen all substances must have some effect under magnetism, even uncharged. [After looking this fact up]:This is found to be the case and so fits the results.

From these figures I would conclude that there is a 99.83467750932817% chance that the explosive composition of the big bang was a 1:1 mix of &quot;neutral&quot; and &quot;charge&quot;, though what as the name is just that it could be the neutral is a plus and then negative is a 0 if you catch my drift. Whichever perspective you take on that, the ratio will be 1:1 for one to the other overall.

Thus if you ask me, there are two points to be made, the big bang (if u believe in it) would of been a uniform explosion from that point of singularity. The quantity of mass in the universe would be about 1:1 charged to non-charged, including all forms (energy too I guess).

As for the 90% inaccuracy, isn&#039;t it a bit pompous to think we can guess the mass of an unknown volume of mass and energy, maybe it&#039;s the 90% we can&#039;t see or calculate for and even with our best efforts we are still only a tenth of the way to knowing what scale we are really dealing with.

Time: Was einstein&#039;s theory actually not trying to simply say, if something travels as fast or faster than light, it would APPEAR to do so instantaneously to us as viewers, well not instantly (wrong wording), we would not be visible until we reached our destination (that&#039;s a better way of wording it)

If I&#039;m sat on a ship at light speed and I travel for one second of my time, that time still passed for me. It still passes for you too, but you can&#039;t see me until I slow down again below the speed of the very light that our primative eyes use to detect our 3D environment. We as a species are limited to light speed or far less at present because we have no direct thrust sytem that can approach the forces required to attain any greater speed for much larger than small particles. 

Now at the quantum level we are told a similar ratio exists between pion and neutral-pions and still the theory holds true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electron Mass Me=9.1093818872e-31<br />
Proton Mass Mp=1.67215813e-27<br />
Neutron Mass Mn=1.6749271613e-27<br />
Difference in mass of proton and neutron is 2.7690312999999995e-30 (possibly the mass of an neutrino or quark. )</p>
<p>1/3 mass of an electron is:<br />
Mx=3.0397576194394586</p>
<p>Integerizing this slightly we can see the mass of a proton is very close to the mass of a neutron minus the mass of an electron, the rest can be possibly explained by energy release as some form of EM radiation and the kinetic energy required to keep the electron spinning around the nucleus, which may well be faster than the speed of light as if you read more carefully and correctly the equation E=mcÂ² (wether correct or not is not the debate here) is possible as the speed at which all matter becomes energy is cÂ² (not c as popularly misconstrued.)<br />
Mn/Mp=1.0016559625853087<br />
Is this the ratio of elementals in each particular particle.</p>
<p>IF electron is base unit(1) then should be integer number within proton.<br />
Mp/me=1835.6439006576552<br />
IF electron is base unit(1) then should be integer number within neutron.<br />
Mn/me=1838.6836582770947<br />
Could actually say fractional part is due to error at this level and for ease of sums say:<br />
No. of electrons per proton is:1836<br />
No. of electrons per neutron is:1839<br />
As measurements increase in accuracy, there is a slight upward trend in the value of mn,mp and me but this is such that<br />
The trend suggests mn/me tends towards 1836 while mp/me tends towards 1836. As increase in descrepency on mp is greater than that in me This is only a difference of only 3 units which as postulated by Quark theory that an electron is a group of 3 quarks(-+-) grouping is rather suprising, that is to say that by removing the same 3 basic units of an electron from a neutron you&#039;d get a proton.</p>
<p>Even without rounding the figure is only:<br />
1835.6439006576552/1838.6836582770947=-3.0397576194395697 or to put it another way accounts for a pretty accurate 99.83467750932817% of the mass of the electron, considering the errors that could creep in on such small scales this is pretty damn fantastic I&#039;d say and so far involves no special case maths and quite possibly simply follows the same rules as the rest of the universe!</p>
<p>In fact these slight errors could be easily dismissed as errors in magnitudes of 10 from the true number of particles within each subatomic particle.</p>
<p>For example would the same hold true to the figures if the unit of mass of the absolute small particle was not 1/3 of the mass of an electron&#8230; but by moving along the scale of the figure 3.03646062906&#8230; recurring, we could equally say this is 303 particles and the 0.646062906666..7 is the error. Would it still hold true for the rest of the workings to the same level of accuracy in that<br />
The proton+electron = neutron. AND neutron/mass of particle AND proton/mass of particle are whole numbers (near enough) and that these hold true to the numbers above in that<br />
particles/neutron = particles/proton + particles/election. And also that if particles/electron is odd then particles/neutron=even and particles/proton=odd.<br />
In a C program this could be written as fullfilling the requirements.<br />
(ParticlesPerNeutron==ParticlesPerProton+ParticlesPerElectron) &amp;&amp;<br />
((ParticlesPerElectron &amp; 1)==(ParticlesPerProton&amp;1)) &amp;&amp;<br />
((ParticlesPerElectron &amp; 1)!=(ParticlesPerNeutron&amp;1))</p>
<p>This I will not go into here as there is no need, for the basic rule should follow of all the groups and subgroups within whatever particles are found until the ultimate singular particle is found (if indeed it ever can or will be and isn&#039;t some singularity as some suggest blinking in and out of existence).</p>
<p>In theory other conditions could be met too, such as ParticlesPerParticle should be able to fit in a perfect equal sided lattice of perfect spheres in each case, that&#039;s assuming they are to be spherical and all equal in size, as there a lot of gumph on sub-atomic physics and it seems almost anyone can make it up but irrelevant of this I think it is most likely that the very very basic building block, no matter what it is would be spherical in overall effect as particulate form.</p>
<p>Not spherical objects would defy most common sense of equal distribution due to equal forces throughout the singularity which is at least possibly the one thing most physisists can agree upon when dealing at the level of a single unit with no outside influences at all except its own internal binding, however completely unlikely or indeed impossible such a possibility would exist anywhere in the universe!</p>
<p>A similar theory was postulated by the man who predicted the existence of quarks!</p>
<p>The reason the &#034;Dark matter&#034; was invented is in fact that scientists are arrogant enough to think they can estimate the mass of the universe when they do not even know what percentage of it they can yet see, much like answering the conundrum:<br />
&#034;On the other side of a piece of paper is a length of cotton, through a small hole you can see only 2 inches of the cotton, how long is the cotton in total and what percentage of the cotton can you see?&#034; </p>
<p>The whole problem with quark theory is how do you arrange only + and &#8211; in a clump so that there are no ++ interactions and no&#8211;interactions&#8230; when there is not another force at this &#034;primary&#034; level in fact it is theoretically and practically impossible.</p>
<p>Going along this line obviously facilitates the need for a neutral particle in the model so either there is +- and neutral or just a minus and a neutral (or a plus and a neutral for that matter) </p>
<p>In fact it feels better in the gut to think of a positron as having a &#034;lack&#034; of electrical charge than the opposite of it and so these are the neutral part. After-all it was at once standard scientific practice to measure the well know Volts as &#034;Potential difference&#034;.</p>
<p>In fact though simple is possibly the best explanation that we have at present.</p>
<p>An electron is thus a minus-nuetral-neutral combination as this is the only possible combination where there is no &#8212; repulsion from itself wherin it would tear itself apart.</p>
<p>A proton is in effect 1836 of these 3 bit combinations and A neutron is in effect 1839 of these 3 bit combinations in this simple model.</p>
<p>If we break this down further then the sum totals is 1839 (neutron):1839 (electron+proton).</p>
<p>The proportion of these particles in the universe is thus most likely to be 1:1 in the universe.</p>
<p>A &#034;positron&#034; is thus (N-N)<br />
An &#034;Electron&#034; is thus (-N-)</p>
<p>A note on the apparent occurence of positrions in a Neutral-negative model. The effect of magnetism in one direction is the result on the interaction on a particle that is<br />
-N- or where charge outweighs mass. Whereas under reverse conditions when neutral particles outnumbercharged particles then the effect is reversed.</p>
<p>Conclusion:For the above to happen all substances must have some effect under magnetism, even uncharged. [After looking this fact up]:This is found to be the case and so fits the results.</p>
<p>From these figures I would conclude that there is a 99.83467750932817% chance that the explosive composition of the big bang was a 1:1 mix of &#034;neutral&#034; and &#034;charge&#034;, though what as the name is just that it could be the neutral is a plus and then negative is a 0 if you catch my drift. Whichever perspective you take on that, the ratio will be 1:1 for one to the other overall.</p>
<p>Thus if you ask me, there are two points to be made, the big bang (if u believe in it) would of been a uniform explosion from that point of singularity. The quantity of mass in the universe would be about 1:1 charged to non-charged, including all forms (energy too I guess).</p>
<p>As for the 90% inaccuracy, isn&#039;t it a bit pompous to think we can guess the mass of an unknown volume of mass and energy, maybe it&#039;s the 90% we can&#039;t see or calculate for and even with our best efforts we are still only a tenth of the way to knowing what scale we are really dealing with.</p>
<p>Time: Was einstein&#039;s theory actually not trying to simply say, if something travels as fast or faster than light, it would APPEAR to do so instantaneously to us as viewers, well not instantly (wrong wording), we would not be visible until we reached our destination (that&#039;s a better way of wording it)</p>
<p>If I&#039;m sat on a ship at light speed and I travel for one second of my time, that time still passed for me. It still passes for you too, but you can&#039;t see me until I slow down again below the speed of the very light that our primative eyes use to detect our 3D environment. We as a species are limited to light speed or far less at present because we have no direct thrust sytem that can approach the forces required to attain any greater speed for much larger than small particles. </p>
<p>Now at the quantum level we are told a similar ratio exists between pion and neutral-pions and still the theory holds true.</p>
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		<title>By: idiot</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-24501</link>
		<dc:creator>idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is no universe. there is no matter. there is no energy. we are all just living in dreams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no universe. there is no matter. there is no energy. we are all just living in dreams.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzylumpkins</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-22531</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzylumpkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it possible that the universe began with a dark matter implosian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it possible that the universe began with a dark matter implosian?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Lam</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-21507</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe dark energy is continuely birthing dark matter.  The dark matter in turn could be slowly coalescing into visible matter.  And just maybe this mysterious dark energy and material  could be the actual stuff of the &quot;big bang.&quot;  Who said the &quot;big bang&quot; happened in a fraction of a second?   Could it be the &quot;big bang&quot; was nothing more than this dark energy chaotically converting into invisible and than into visible matter in our part of a boundless universe and continues today?  That might explain blue-shifted galaxies and the mind-bending hodgepodge of all that we see in the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe dark energy is continuely birthing dark matter.  The dark matter in turn could be slowly coalescing into visible matter.  And just maybe this mysterious dark energy and material  could be the actual stuff of the &#034;big bang.&#034;  Who said the &#034;big bang&#034; happened in a fraction of a second?   Could it be the &#034;big bang&#034; was nothing more than this dark energy chaotically converting into invisible and than into visible matter in our part of a boundless universe and continues today?  That might explain blue-shifted galaxies and the mind-bending hodgepodge of all that we see in the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: JN</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-18519</link>
		<dc:creator>JN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frend
http://www.hypothesis-of-universe.com/en/index.php?nav=home</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frend<br />
<a href="http://www.hypothesis-of-universe.com/en/index.php?nav=home" rel="nofollow">http://www.hypothesis-of-universe.com/en/index.php?nav=home</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Blancett</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-14612</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Blancett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If dark matter really existed, the amount of dark matter mass necessary to cause the observed irregularities would logically preclude the rapid expansion of the Universe that we now have. Furthermore, I cannot conceive of such a mass that would not have pulled itself together forming very large bodies. May I suggest that our observed irregularities could be &quot;Space Time Warp Proportional Factor&quot;; depending upon how close a body is to the center of the Galaxy? Gerald Blancett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If dark matter really existed, the amount of dark matter mass necessary to cause the observed irregularities would logically preclude the rapid expansion of the Universe that we now have. Furthermore, I cannot conceive of such a mass that would not have pulled itself together forming very large bodies. May I suggest that our observed irregularities could be &#034;Space Time Warp Proportional Factor&#034;; depending upon how close a body is to the center of the Galaxy? Gerald Blancett</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Younger</title>
		<link>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-the-same-thing/comment-page-3/#comment-14508</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Younger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the smallest possible space &quot;particles&quot; are actually the bosons of the gravitational field. It would explain many divergent theories.   Space &quot;particles&quot; overlapping under mass\energy density would explain space-time curvature, it would give a mechanism for gravitational waves and would unify general relativity with quantum mechanics.  It&#039;s really neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the smallest possible space &#034;particles&#034; are actually the bosons of the gravitational field. It would explain many divergent theories.   Space &#034;particles&#034; overlapping under mass\energy density would explain space-time curvature, it would give a mechanism for gravitational waves and would unify general relativity with quantum mechanics.  It&#039;s really neat.</p>
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