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		<title>By: Not Just a Satellite: NASA&#8217;s Orbiting Carbon Observatory Fails &#124; Astroengine.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Just a Satellite: NASA&#8217;s Orbiting Carbon Observatory Fails &#124; Astroengine.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how Earth naturally deals with carbon emissions. We know our biosphere is reaching localized &#8220;tipping points&#8221; (where there can be sudden, irreversible changes in weather systems for example), but how [...]</description>
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<p>[...] how Earth naturally deals with carbon emissions. We know our biosphere is reaching localized &#034;tipping points&#034; (where there can be sudden, irreversible changes in weather systems for example), but how [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SanMartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanMartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May God protect us all.Thank you Jesus Christ.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the tipping point was sociological, and we went past it, at the latest, in the mid 1980s.

Why are the social sciences, such as what rats do when there are 100 in a cage for ten, not included in the &quot;science of global warming.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the tipping point was sociological, and we went past it, at the latest, in the mid 1980s.</p>
<p>Why are the social sciences, such as what rats do when there are 100 in a cage for ten, not included in the &#034;science of global warming.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: adriana brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>adriana brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tropical Rain Forest
            By: Adriana Brent 

     Humans over time have come up with machines that cut down trees and it disrupts the land and population. When they cut down trees, the trees fall on plants wee need for medicines. Some people still live there in the Rain Forest and this causes more trouble for them too because they get the supplies and food they need to survive there in the enviroment they live in.

BTW (im only 12 years old)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tropical Rain Forest<br />
            By: Adriana Brent </p>
<p>     Humans over time have come up with machines that cut down trees and it disrupts the land and population. When they cut down trees, the trees fall on plants wee need for medicines. Some people still live there in the Rain Forest and this causes more trouble for them too because they get the supplies and food they need to survive there in the enviroment they live in.</p>
<p>BTW (im only 12 years old)</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes T Williams, the gaia theory is what you are referring too, is indeed an interesting point. the earth has be evolving as such for millions of years, slowly adapting to new situations by balancing all its elements. in current climates the balancing would be a natural culling of homo-sapiens. probably through some pretty severe weather and climate changes.
on the bright side, we probably wont live to see all the ramifications of our actions, as they will stretch for many thousands of years.
ps. to the people who keep saying that CO2 peaking is a natural cycle and we are due for it to happen, i would like to point out that never. i repeat never. in the history of earth have we had this current level of CO2. our levels now are much greater than all the tipping points in the past.
i shudder think what the next tipping will be like</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes T Williams, the gaia theory is what you are referring too, is indeed an interesting point. the earth has be evolving as such for millions of years, slowly adapting to new situations by balancing all its elements. in current climates the balancing would be a natural culling of homo-sapiens. probably through some pretty severe weather and climate changes.<br />
on the bright side, we probably wont live to see all the ramifications of our actions, as they will stretch for many thousands of years.<br />
ps. to the people who keep saying that CO2 peaking is a natural cycle and we are due for it to happen, i would like to point out that never. i repeat never. in the history of earth have we had this current level of CO2. our levels now are much greater than all the tipping points in the past.<br />
i shudder think what the next tipping will be like</p>
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		<title>By: T Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are all idiots if you honestly believe anything we do could possibly affect the earth&#039;s future.  The earth has been surviving for millions of years and dealt with hundreds of destructive species long before we humans came onto the scene.She&#039;ll deal with us regardless of what we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are all idiots if you honestly believe anything we do could possibly affect the earth&#039;s future.  The earth has been surviving for millions of years and dealt with hundreds of destructive species long before we humans came onto the scene.She&#039;ll deal with us regardless of what we do.</p>
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		<title>By: KK</title>
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		<dc:creator>KK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t you just use nuclear weapons to &quot;counter out&quot; global warming? Just nuke a remote area, using a very large number of nukes in the same spot, and cause a mild nuclear winter - just enough to cool the earth off by enough for everything to go back to normal. Im not saying we shouldn&#039;t cut down on pollution, but would intentionally causing a nuclear winter(not an ice age, but just enough nukes to balance out the temperature) work as a &quot;stop gap&quot; measure if we don&#039;t do it fast enough and push ourselves over the edge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#039;t you just use nuclear weapons to &#034;counter out&#034; global warming? Just nuke a remote area, using a very large number of nukes in the same spot, and cause a mild nuclear winter &#8211; just enough to cool the earth off by enough for everything to go back to normal. Im not saying we shouldn&#039;t cut down on pollution, but would intentionally causing a nuclear winter(not an ice age, but just enough nukes to balance out the temperature) work as a &#034;stop gap&#034; measure if we don&#039;t do it fast enough and push ourselves over the edge?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of you who doubt global warming and refuse to acknowledge the expert opinions, which btw are based on research and evidence, probably think evolution is also just a theory.

Fact: the earth is warming and people have greatly influenced how rapidly carbon dioxide has accumulated; things would be even worse if not for condensation trails reflecting so much of the incoming solar energy.

Fact: the theory of evolution is not just a theory. The theoretical part is how it happened, not whether it happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you who doubt global warming and refuse to acknowledge the expert opinions, which btw are based on research and evidence, probably think evolution is also just a theory.</p>
<p>Fact: the earth is warming and people have greatly influenced how rapidly carbon dioxide has accumulated; things would be even worse if not for condensation trails reflecting so much of the incoming solar energy.</p>
<p>Fact: the theory of evolution is not just a theory. The theoretical part is how it happened, not whether it happened.</p>
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		<title>By: a convenient truth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-02-07</title>
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		<dc:creator>a convenient truth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-02-07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Earth&#8217;s climate will slip past &#8220;tipping point&#8221; within 100 years A list of geolgical tipping points coming up that are triggered by human activity. One is next year, and there&#8217;s another within the next 10 :/ (tags: climate environment) [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Earth&#039;s climate will slip past &#034;tipping point&#034; within 100 years A list of geolgical tipping points coming up that are triggered by human activity. One is next year, and there&#039;s another within the next 10 :/ (tags: climate environment) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

I saw this really great movie last night... &quot;They Live&quot;... with none other than Roddy Piper the ex Pro Wrestler.  This is one of those really bad movies from the 80&#039;s.   Interestingly, In this movie from the early 80&#039;s, they were warning about global warming, CO2, Fluorocarbons etc...  

They plot or lack thereof was that there were aliens living among us and you could only see them with these special glasses.   The point relevant to this blog is that the aliens were purposely warming the climate to be more like &quot;home&quot;.     

Who knows?  Maybe the earth is getting prepped for the &quot;invasion&quot;.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I saw this really great movie last night&#8230; &#034;They Live&#034;&#8230; with none other than Roddy Piper the ex Pro Wrestler.  This is one of those really bad movies from the 80&#039;s.   Interestingly, In this movie from the early 80&#039;s, they were warning about global warming, CO2, Fluorocarbons etc&#8230;  </p>
<p>They plot or lack thereof was that there were aliens living among us and you could only see them with these special glasses.   The point relevant to this blog is that the aliens were purposely warming the climate to be more like &#034;home&#034;.     </p>
<p>Who knows?  Maybe the earth is getting prepped for the &#034;invasion&#034;&#8230;. <img src='http://www.universetoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: boethius</title>
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		<dc:creator>boethius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some posters here seem to take great comfort in the idea that humans will be wiped out and the earth will replenish itself.

If that gives you comfort, well, hold on to it. We all need comfort. 

But don&#039;t pretend that this is based on any kind of scientific certainty, any more than other comfortable messages about what may happen in the future. 

Remember that even before the effects of GW have really kicked in, humans have been bringing on the sixth great extinction since the beginning of life. 

Now add to that the likely effects of GW, warming that, with the total melting of the Arctic ice cap in the next few years, may be taking on a momentum of its own.

Humans are having the destructive force on the living systems of the planet of at least two dinosaur-extinguishing asteroids. There is no precedent for this level of eco-destruction in the archeological record. 

Earlier extinctions took tens of millions of years to return the earth to something like the pre-extinction levels of biodiversity. 

We can&#039;t know how much longer it will take organisms to re-evolve from our double- (at least)wammy. A one-order of-magnitude lengthening of the recovery time pushes us into the hundreds-of-millions-of-years zone, and that is the time period within which the sun will expand enough to wipe out any possible life on the planet.

So if George Carlin&#039;s quip &quot;The earth is fine, it&#039;s the humans who are f&#039;d&quot; gives you comfort, go with it. Like I said, we all need comfort from where-ever we can get it.

But this is not a scientifically certain statement. 

We may well be destroying the only living earth that ever will be.


Stop denying. Stop flying and driving (or drive as little as possible). Eat lower on the food chain and eat local. Stop buying useless crap. Insulate your home. And insist that government, business and other institutions start taking this seriously by rationing carbon and limiting then phasing out fossil fuel extraction. 

Note that most of these things actually improve one&#039;s quality of life.

It may well be too late to prevent very bad things from happening, but that does not relieve us of the moral responsibility to do (and stop doing, in the case of flying...) what we can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some posters here seem to take great comfort in the idea that humans will be wiped out and the earth will replenish itself.</p>
<p>If that gives you comfort, well, hold on to it. We all need comfort. </p>
<p>But don&#039;t pretend that this is based on any kind of scientific certainty, any more than other comfortable messages about what may happen in the future. </p>
<p>Remember that even before the effects of GW have really kicked in, humans have been bringing on the sixth great extinction since the beginning of life. </p>
<p>Now add to that the likely effects of GW, warming that, with the total melting of the Arctic ice cap in the next few years, may be taking on a momentum of its own.</p>
<p>Humans are having the destructive force on the living systems of the planet of at least two dinosaur-extinguishing asteroids. There is no precedent for this level of eco-destruction in the archeological record. </p>
<p>Earlier extinctions took tens of millions of years to return the earth to something like the pre-extinction levels of biodiversity. </p>
<p>We can&#039;t know how much longer it will take organisms to re-evolve from our double- (at least)wammy. A one-order of-magnitude lengthening of the recovery time pushes us into the hundreds-of-millions-of-years zone, and that is the time period within which the sun will expand enough to wipe out any possible life on the planet.</p>
<p>So if George Carlin&#039;s quip &#034;The earth is fine, it&#039;s the humans who are f&#039;d&#034; gives you comfort, go with it. Like I said, we all need comfort from where-ever we can get it.</p>
<p>But this is not a scientifically certain statement. </p>
<p>We may well be destroying the only living earth that ever will be.</p>
<p>Stop denying. Stop flying and driving (or drive as little as possible). Eat lower on the food chain and eat local. Stop buying useless crap. Insulate your home. And insist that government, business and other institutions start taking this seriously by rationing carbon and limiting then phasing out fossil fuel extraction. </p>
<p>Note that most of these things actually improve one&#039;s quality of life.</p>
<p>It may well be too late to prevent very bad things from happening, but that does not relieve us of the moral responsibility to do (and stop doing, in the case of flying&#8230;) what we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Heracles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heracles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a few comments here have come close to the point, but perhaps it needs to be stated again.

No matter how much we pollute and destroy the environment here on this planet, unless we blow it up, we cannot damage the earth! Sure we might wipe out all of the plants and animal that exist today (including ourselves) but within another 10 or so million years the bacteria will repair the damage and the whole cycle can begin anew. 

So go ahead, argue the point, pollute the environment, over populate, over eat, over use; do whatever, but don&#039;t worry about the earth. It doesn&#039;t need us or our help. It will be fine - eventually!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a few comments here have come close to the point, but perhaps it needs to be stated again.</p>
<p>No matter how much we pollute and destroy the environment here on this planet, unless we blow it up, we cannot damage the earth! Sure we might wipe out all of the plants and animal that exist today (including ourselves) but within another 10 or so million years the bacteria will repair the damage and the whole cycle can begin anew. </p>
<p>So go ahead, argue the point, pollute the environment, over populate, over eat, over use; do whatever, but don&#039;t worry about the earth. It doesn&#039;t need us or our help. It will be fine &#8211; eventually!</p>
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		<title>By: Huntington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huntington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, you have me convinced; I am now going to lead a life of immesurable self-loathing and misanthrophy to convince myself that humanity (with the possible exception of myself and my elite band of friends and relations) is a disease on the planet, a mistake, The Thing That Should Not Be, etc.
I alone am the sole arbiter of fate; I judge six billion current human individual lives, as well as the five billion preceeding us, owrthless - just a waste of time and energy on the part of nature, evolution, or whatchamacallit

However, since there are evidently enough resources on this planet to fend for everyone - and doubble that number - I still think it&#039;s an excellent idea to develop the economical system and infrastructure required for all six billion + to have a good time and enjoy their new-found meaninglessness. I mean, what a relief, really!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, you have me convinced; I am now going to lead a life of immesurable self-loathing and misanthrophy to convince myself that humanity (with the possible exception of myself and my elite band of friends and relations) is a disease on the planet, a mistake, The Thing That Should Not Be, etc.<br />
I alone am the sole arbiter of fate; I judge six billion current human individual lives, as well as the five billion preceeding us, owrthless &#8211; just a waste of time and energy on the part of nature, evolution, or whatchamacallit</p>
<p>However, since there are evidently enough resources on this planet to fend for everyone &#8211; and doubble that number &#8211; I still think it&#039;s an excellent idea to develop the economical system and infrastructure required for all six billion + to have a good time and enjoy their new-found meaninglessness. I mean, what a relief, really!</p>
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		<title>By: shawsds</title>
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		<dc:creator>shawsds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Alaska the Sea Ice is down past southern west coast and headed to the North Pacific. Our Interior is in a deep Freeze of -70s for several weeks with no relief in sight. Time for Al Gore to
get writing his next Book on Global Cooling for his next Nobel Peace Prize</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Alaska the Sea Ice is down past southern west coast and headed to the North Pacific. Our Interior is in a deep Freeze of -70s for several weeks with no relief in sight. Time for Al Gore to<br />
get writing his next Book on Global Cooling for his next Nobel Peace Prize</p>
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		<title>By: alphonso richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>alphonso richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s ALL step back, take a DEEEP breath........................and now, breathe......

Yes, the earth has been through cycles of heating &amp; cooling before. Yes scientists are not EXACTLY sure how confident their models are.

BUT...  one thing they DO (mostly) agree on is that whatever the cause, WE&#039;RE NOT HELPING

It shouldn&#039;t be about guilt, political correctness or knee-jerk (over) legislation.

When people cared in the 70&#039;s politicians looked at them as loonies, weirdos, &#039;commies&#039; &amp; layabouts. Now these concerns form part of many politicians&#039; campaigns. They probably still don&#039;t care BUT they&#039;ve noticed.

People power is important, the more we know, the more we DEMAND to know, the beeter able we can change our own behaviour (so many people expect others to sort out the mess at little or no expense to themselves) &amp; influence power-brokesa &amp; business (they don&#039;t care unless it affects their bottom line - hit &#039;em in the pocket, they soon sit up)

Over-population is also a problem. As rightly pointed out means more people streching the planet&#039;s resources. Some people have already taken the step to not have children based on this concern.

Others may think it&#039;s all bean curd-eating nonsense, &amp; I admit, the issues &amp; problems aree waaay to involved for any single simple answer to work. But I think siting back &amp; doing nothing is not an option.

Everyone can do their bit - the point is it doesn&#039;t have to be earth-shatteringly amazing (in some instances, such grandiose gestures may do more harm than good)

To not even try is worse than to try &amp; fail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#039;s ALL step back, take a DEEEP breath&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and now, breathe&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, the earth has been through cycles of heating &amp; cooling before. Yes scientists are not EXACTLY sure how confident their models are.</p>
<p>BUT&#8230;  one thing they DO (mostly) agree on is that whatever the cause, WE&#039;RE NOT HELPING</p>
<p>It shouldn&#039;t be about guilt, political correctness or knee-jerk (over) legislation.</p>
<p>When people cared in the 70&#039;s politicians looked at them as loonies, weirdos, &#039;commies&#039; &amp; layabouts. Now these concerns form part of many politicians&#039; campaigns. They probably still don&#039;t care BUT they&#039;ve noticed.</p>
<p>People power is important, the more we know, the more we DEMAND to know, the beeter able we can change our own behaviour (so many people expect others to sort out the mess at little or no expense to themselves) &amp; influence power-brokesa &amp; business (they don&#039;t care unless it affects their bottom line &#8211; hit &#039;em in the pocket, they soon sit up)</p>
<p>Over-population is also a problem. As rightly pointed out means more people streching the planet&#039;s resources. Some people have already taken the step to not have children based on this concern.</p>
<p>Others may think it&#039;s all bean curd-eating nonsense, &amp; I admit, the issues &amp; problems aree waaay to involved for any single simple answer to work. But I think siting back &amp; doing nothing is not an option.</p>
<p>Everyone can do their bit &#8211; the point is it doesn&#039;t have to be earth-shatteringly amazing (in some instances, such grandiose gestures may do more harm than good)</p>
<p>To not even try is worse than to try &amp; fail</p>
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		<title>By: Huntington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huntington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overpopulation is an eco-fascist myth propagated by the powerful and overprivileged, such as His Royal Asshole Prince Philip and his band of feudal romanticists in the WWF.  These bastards want to effectuate a &quot;die-off&quot; of billions of human beings in order for them to preserve their rotten way of life. They work actively to prevent the infrastructure of human society to evolve to such an extent that the available resources can be extracted and distributed in the most economic and rational way for the benefit of all mankind. The natural conclusion to this &quot;philosophy&quot; is war. &quot;Race war,&quot; &quot;clash of civilizations,&quot; whatever they call it, we know its true cause. 
Check this out:
http://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_prince_philip_environmentalism.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overpopulation is an eco-fascist myth propagated by the powerful and overprivileged, such as His Royal Asshole Prince Philip and his band of feudal romanticists in the WWF.  These bastards want to effectuate a &#034;die-off&#034; of billions of human beings in order for them to preserve their rotten way of life. They work actively to prevent the infrastructure of human society to evolve to such an extent that the available resources can be extracted and distributed in the most economic and rational way for the benefit of all mankind. The natural conclusion to this &#034;philosophy&#034; is war. &#034;Race war,&#034; &#034;clash of civilizations,&#034; whatever they call it, we know its true cause.<br />
Check this out:<br />
<a href="http://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_prince_philip_environmentalism.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_prince_philip_environmentalism.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find all these comments fascinating.  It would be even more interesting to know what sort of education each commenter has received.  I myself am a highschool teacher with a degree in physics and a minor in biochemistry.  From that perspective it seems that the concept that humans can influence environment is obvious.  Tiny bacteria created the oxygen rich environment that we take for granted today, billions of years ago.  If an unintelligent micro-organism can completely change the atmosphere of this planet, its not much of a stretch to realize that we can too.  The study of physics reveals that many types of systems exhibit tipping point behavior.  As usual, the press has distorted the concept a bit.  Specifically, no tipping point is irreversible.  It would be more accurate to describe such points as discontinuites, areas where small changes give extremely large results.  Sometimes these are referred to as nonlinear responses.  For example, the speed at which an ice cube melts is a factor of the surrounding temperature (radiant heat, convection and conduction) and the surface area of the ice cube.  For an ice cube out of your freezer, this is a relatively stable and linear process.  For a glacier, this is not a linear process.  The glacier melts at a linear rate until it loses so much mass that it can no longer support its own weight, then pieces break off.  Often a lot of pieces break off, which causes the surface area of the ice to increase at a geometric rate (literally to the 3rd power).  And in response, the rate of melting of the glacier also increases geometrically.  Voila&#039;, there&#039;s the tipping point.  But of course, the glacier can be refrozen.  It is true, however, that the rate at which snow is deposited and forms a new glacier is much, much slower than the accelerated melting of a fractured glacier.  That&#039;s why we&#039;re losing the sea ice.  You might also note that the sea ice, when its at the bottom of a glacier, is partially holding that glacier in place...  Remove the sea ice and the glacier begins sliding downhill (which it does anyway) at a much faster rate.  Which causes it to fracture and melt faster; you can see some complex cause and effect relationships here.  What I hope you are beginning to realize is that it doesn&#039;t take huge changes to make a big difference if that small change happens at the right time and place.  But as some many have pointed out, we don&#039;t have to do anything.  The natural processes of physics will occur without our intervention.  If, one the other hand, you personally would like to survive and see your descendents survive, I&#039;d suggest you get started now.  Remember, the only infinite resource we have is stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find all these comments fascinating.  It would be even more interesting to know what sort of education each commenter has received.  I myself am a highschool teacher with a degree in physics and a minor in biochemistry.  From that perspective it seems that the concept that humans can influence environment is obvious.  Tiny bacteria created the oxygen rich environment that we take for granted today, billions of years ago.  If an unintelligent micro-organism can completely change the atmosphere of this planet, its not much of a stretch to realize that we can too.  The study of physics reveals that many types of systems exhibit tipping point behavior.  As usual, the press has distorted the concept a bit.  Specifically, no tipping point is irreversible.  It would be more accurate to describe such points as discontinuites, areas where small changes give extremely large results.  Sometimes these are referred to as nonlinear responses.  For example, the speed at which an ice cube melts is a factor of the surrounding temperature (radiant heat, convection and conduction) and the surface area of the ice cube.  For an ice cube out of your freezer, this is a relatively stable and linear process.  For a glacier, this is not a linear process.  The glacier melts at a linear rate until it loses so much mass that it can no longer support its own weight, then pieces break off.  Often a lot of pieces break off, which causes the surface area of the ice to increase at a geometric rate (literally to the 3rd power).  And in response, the rate of melting of the glacier also increases geometrically.  Voila&#039;, there&#039;s the tipping point.  But of course, the glacier can be refrozen.  It is true, however, that the rate at which snow is deposited and forms a new glacier is much, much slower than the accelerated melting of a fractured glacier.  That&#039;s why we&#039;re losing the sea ice.  You might also note that the sea ice, when its at the bottom of a glacier, is partially holding that glacier in place&#8230;  Remove the sea ice and the glacier begins sliding downhill (which it does anyway) at a much faster rate.  Which causes it to fracture and melt faster; you can see some complex cause and effect relationships here.  What I hope you are beginning to realize is that it doesn&#039;t take huge changes to make a big difference if that small change happens at the right time and place.  But as some many have pointed out, we don&#039;t have to do anything.  The natural processes of physics will occur without our intervention.  If, one the other hand, you personally would like to survive and see your descendents survive, I&#039;d suggest you get started now.  Remember, the only infinite resource we have is stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/could-nitrogen-pollution-give-tropical-flora-a-much-needed-boost/#more-12725

Remember the whole mother nature finds a way to balance things out?   Interesting article regarding the CO2 scrubbing I spoke of earlier.  It seems that nitrogen pollution also helps plants grow.     

Interesting......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/could-nitrogen-pollution-give-tropical-flora-a-much-needed-boost/#more-12725" rel="nofollow">http://www.universetoday.com/2008/02/06/could-nitrogen-pollution-give-tropical-flora-a-much-needed-boost/#more-12725</a></p>
<p>Remember the whole mother nature finds a way to balance things out?   Interesting article regarding the CO2 scrubbing I spoke of earlier.  It seems that nitrogen pollution also helps plants grow.     </p>
<p>Interesting&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marcellus</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcellus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are having our coldest, snowiest winter here in Minnesota in 20 years. 

Global warming? Bah. It is a liberal myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are having our coldest, snowiest winter here in Minnesota in 20 years. </p>
<p>Global warming? Bah. It is a liberal myth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Lam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone not to worry!  All the trends point to run-away global warming unless the world gets its act together.  And that aint gonna happen anytime soon.  And the world getting together may never happen.  It is almost certain that mother nature will  eventyally &quot;prune the herd.&quot;  I suspect the correction will come in a really bad form.  You can count on it.  Fortunately, none of us alive today will be around to see this adjustment.  The pruning will probably go down within the next two centuries.  Again, not to worry. There will be survivors to start the global warming cycle all over again.  It&#039;s human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone not to worry!  All the trends point to run-away global warming unless the world gets its act together.  And that aint gonna happen anytime soon.  And the world getting together may never happen.  It is almost certain that mother nature will  eventyally &#034;prune the herd.&#034;  I suspect the correction will come in a really bad form.  You can count on it.  Fortunately, none of us alive today will be around to see this adjustment.  The pruning will probably go down within the next two centuries.  Again, not to worry. There will be survivors to start the global warming cycle all over again.  It&#039;s human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so happy God is getting in on the discussion! God, can you help me win the Lotto?</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a cool site to calculate your &quot;Carbon Foot Print&quot;  

http://green.yahoo.com/calculator/

http://green.yahoo.com/18seconds/  This one is very cool...  I have changed to CFL;s and not only are the green, but they have saved me a ton of money in energy costs... BONUS....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a cool site to calculate your &#034;Carbon Foot Print&#034;  </p>
<p><a href="http://green.yahoo.com/calculator/" rel="nofollow">http://green.yahoo.com/calculator/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://green.yahoo.com/18seconds/" rel="nofollow">http://green.yahoo.com/18seconds/</a>  This one is very cool&#8230;  I have changed to CFL;s and not only are the green, but they have saved me a ton of money in energy costs&#8230; BONUS&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the cycle is going to happen whether we like it or not.   The question is how much and when

Another theory I read regarding the natural cycle attributed part of the equation to the position of the earth as it relates to where it is spinning in the milkyway.  Think of a kids playground with the thing that you sit on and all the kids spin until someone gets launched off.  Imagine that in addition to spinning counter clockwise,  it was on a roof of a car moving forward.  On the left side you are moving backwards  relative to the motion of the car thus your forward speed and movement are slower.   Think less wind and bugs...  On the right side you swing around and are now moving in the same direction as the car thus the combined speed is greater than the car alone.  Think more wind, bugs etc... 
It takes our solar system approximately 250,000 years to take a trip around.      Scientists have calculated that our heating cycle happens about every 100,000 years in sync with the earth whipping around the backside of the milky way and starts moving in the same direction as the milky way is moving.   As we go faster we suck in the wake of all the cosmic radiation and solar winds from the stars infront of us more than when we are on the backside going against the flow which is when it gets colder.

Although that may be a bit out there... if you haven&#039;t noticed, there is a lot of strange stuff we have discovered in the last 5 years.   it was on space.com and some nasa guys came up with it.  

That being said, even if the cycle falls under the &quot;Sh-t happens&quot; category,  we have the ability to do just about anything if there is the proper focus and will to do it.

Simple math...  # of People x lbs of CO2/person needed - amount of green to absorb said lbs of CO2 = balance.   

Either drop the amount of CO2 used per person via more efficient cars, light bulbs, solar, wind, water etc...  , reduce the population through educating people not to have litters of children, increase the amount of plants and greens to absorb the CO2 or here is a crazy Idea.... Do all three.... 

So far all we have started to do is the first.   Kudos for GM and others to finally make some huge progress on more efficient cars and trucks... have you seen the Volt...??  pretty cool.  

Now lets work on the other two and maybe we could put a dent in things....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the cycle is going to happen whether we like it or not.   The question is how much and when</p>
<p>Another theory I read regarding the natural cycle attributed part of the equation to the position of the earth as it relates to where it is spinning in the milkyway.  Think of a kids playground with the thing that you sit on and all the kids spin until someone gets launched off.  Imagine that in addition to spinning counter clockwise,  it was on a roof of a car moving forward.  On the left side you are moving backwards  relative to the motion of the car thus your forward speed and movement are slower.   Think less wind and bugs&#8230;  On the right side you swing around and are now moving in the same direction as the car thus the combined speed is greater than the car alone.  Think more wind, bugs etc&#8230;<br />
It takes our solar system approximately 250,000 years to take a trip around.      Scientists have calculated that our heating cycle happens about every 100,000 years in sync with the earth whipping around the backside of the milky way and starts moving in the same direction as the milky way is moving.   As we go faster we suck in the wake of all the cosmic radiation and solar winds from the stars infront of us more than when we are on the backside going against the flow which is when it gets colder.</p>
<p>Although that may be a bit out there&#8230; if you haven&#039;t noticed, there is a lot of strange stuff we have discovered in the last 5 years.   it was on space.com and some nasa guys came up with it.  </p>
<p>That being said, even if the cycle falls under the &#034;Sh-t happens&#034; category,  we have the ability to do just about anything if there is the proper focus and will to do it.</p>
<p>Simple math&#8230;  # of People x lbs of CO2/person needed &#8211; amount of green to absorb said lbs of CO2 = balance.   </p>
<p>Either drop the amount of CO2 used per person via more efficient cars, light bulbs, solar, wind, water etc&#8230;  , reduce the population through educating people not to have litters of children, increase the amount of plants and greens to absorb the CO2 or here is a crazy Idea&#8230;. Do all three&#8230;. </p>
<p>So far all we have started to do is the first.   Kudos for GM and others to finally make some huge progress on more efficient cars and trucks&#8230; have you seen the Volt&#8230;??  pretty cool.  </p>
<p>Now lets work on the other two and maybe we could put a dent in things&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should be more concerned with cleaning our environment rather than whether or not it&#039;s warming.  Clean air, clean water, alternative energy sources, eco friendly food production so we can feed our world, sanitation and so on.  If sea levels do rise and people migrate inland, does it matter if we can&#039;t breathe our air or have access to fresh water?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should be more concerned with cleaning our environment rather than whether or not it&#039;s warming.  Clean air, clean water, alternative energy sources, eco friendly food production so we can feed our world, sanitation and so on.  If sea levels do rise and people migrate inland, does it matter if we can&#039;t breathe our air or have access to fresh water?</p>
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