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		<title>By: Ð˜Ð³Ð¾Ñ€ÑÐ½Ñ‡Ð°</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ð˜Ð³Ð¾Ñ€ÑÐ½Ñ‡Ð°</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skylark</title>
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		<dc:creator>skylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radic:
I&#039;m back, albeit belatedly.  About that Ribbentrop-Molotov &quot;treaty,&quot; you omit Molotov&#039;s attempts to enlist Allied support against what was seen as practically the inevitable Nazi &quot;push&quot; Eastward.  Churchill in particular appeared reluctant to discourage Hitler&#039;s heading East, which sort of left Russia in the lurch, holding the bag, etc.
    In any case, inform me why Hitler apparently decided not to invade Britain though the war initially was heading in that direction.  (And don&#039;t say the RAF, as heroic as they were, scared him off....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radic:<br />
I&#039;m back, albeit belatedly.  About that Ribbentrop-Molotov &#034;treaty,&#034; you omit Molotov&#039;s attempts to enlist Allied support against what was seen as practically the inevitable Nazi &#034;push&#034; Eastward.  Churchill in particular appeared reluctant to discourage Hitler&#039;s heading East, which sort of left Russia in the lurch, holding the bag, etc.<br />
    In any case, inform me why Hitler apparently decided not to invade Britain though the war initially was heading in that direction.  (And don&#039;t say the RAF, as heroic as they were, scared him off&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. 

Whilst I have no doubt that you have studied these matters extensively, Will makes several important points and says nothing that warrants such remarks:

&quot;The difference &quot;IS&quot; that you obviously are NOT very well informed (probably, too much CNN) and likely not too well read based on the style of your writing.&quot;

I am not a religious man, but just in case your name refers to &quot;reverend&quot; you should study Ephesians 4:2 - &quot;Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. </p>
<p>Whilst I have no doubt that you have studied these matters extensively, Will makes several important points and says nothing that warrants such remarks:</p>
<p>&#034;The difference &#034;IS&#034; that you obviously are NOT very well informed (probably, too much CNN) and likely not too well read based on the style of your writing.&#034;</p>
<p>I am not a religious man, but just in case your name refers to &#034;reverend&#034; you should study Ephesians 4:2 &#8211; &#034;Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Sheckels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Sheckels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weeping
by Qkumba Zoo
album:

I knew a man who lived in fear
It was huge, it was angry it was drawing near
Behind his house, a secret place 
Was the shadow of the demon he could never face
He built a wall of steel and flame
And men with guns to keep it tame
Then standing back he made it plain
That the nightmare would never ever rise again
But the fear the fire and the guns remained

It doesn&#039;t matter now
It&#039;s over anyhow
He tells the world that it&#039;s sleeping
But as the night came round, I heard its lowly sound
It wasn&#039;t roaring, it was weeping

And then one day the neighbors came
They were curious to know about the smoke and flame
They stood around outside the wall
But of course there was nothing to be heard at all
&quot;My friends,&quot; he said, &quot;we&#039;ve reached our goal, The threat is under firm control
As long as peace and order reign 
I&#039;ll be damned if i can see a reason to explain
Why the fear and the fire and the guns remain

It doesn&#039;t matter now
It&#039;s over anyhow
He tells the world that it&#039;s sleeping
But as the night came round, I heard its lowly sound
It wasn&#039;t roaring, it was weeping

Is there a light, can you feel the light shine
I think i&#039;ve find a way through
(Yes I found a way through)
I know things have changed but the fear remained in me
Till i touched the light in you

It doesn&#039;t matter now
It&#039;s over anyhow
He tells the world that it&#039;s sleeping
But as the night came round, I heard its lowly sound
It wasn&#039;t roaring, it was weeping</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeping<br />
by Qkumba Zoo<br />
album:</p>
<p>I knew a man who lived in fear<br />
It was huge, it was angry it was drawing near<br />
Behind his house, a secret place<br />
Was the shadow of the demon he could never face<br />
He built a wall of steel and flame<br />
And men with guns to keep it tame<br />
Then standing back he made it plain<br />
That the nightmare would never ever rise again<br />
But the fear the fire and the guns remained</p>
<p>It doesn&#039;t matter now<br />
It&#039;s over anyhow<br />
He tells the world that it&#039;s sleeping<br />
But as the night came round, I heard its lowly sound<br />
It wasn&#039;t roaring, it was weeping</p>
<p>And then one day the neighbors came<br />
They were curious to know about the smoke and flame<br />
They stood around outside the wall<br />
But of course there was nothing to be heard at all<br />
&#034;My friends,&#034; he said, &#034;we&#039;ve reached our goal, The threat is under firm control<br />
As long as peace and order reign<br />
I&#039;ll be damned if i can see a reason to explain<br />
Why the fear and the fire and the guns remain</p>
<p>It doesn&#039;t matter now<br />
It&#039;s over anyhow<br />
He tells the world that it&#039;s sleeping<br />
But as the night came round, I heard its lowly sound<br />
It wasn&#039;t roaring, it was weeping</p>
<p>Is there a light, can you feel the light shine<br />
I think i&#039;ve find a way through<br />
(Yes I found a way through)<br />
I know things have changed but the fear remained in me<br />
Till i touched the light in you</p>
<p>It doesn&#039;t matter now<br />
It&#039;s over anyhow<br />
He tells the world that it&#039;s sleeping<br />
But as the night came round, I heard its lowly sound<br />
It wasn&#039;t roaring, it was weeping</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev.,
In case you peek...
Didn&#039;t mean to scuff up your oxfords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev.,<br />
In case you peek&#8230;<br />
Didn&#039;t mean to scuff up your oxfords.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will:
Firstly, you need to get a grip.  Secondly, I am as much an American as you, and I can assure you equally (if not more) patriotic. The difference &quot;IS&quot; that you obviously are NOT very well informed (probably, too much CNN) and likely not too well read based on the style of your writing.

Finally, the only reason that I threw politics into the bray was to give example to the person who&#039;s handle (NASG) whom asked the question &quot;why&quot; a defense system, such as, SW was needed, or would be deployed? My answer was an attempt to educate him, as to &quot;how&quot; such decisions are massaged by the &quot;liberal media&#039;s elite&quot; to sway the opinions of the public. Yes, I know... the methods are universal. Youâ€™re suggesting that maybe I may prefer another political system, such as, Russia, Iranian, Sudanese... or... or... or, isn&#039;t worthy of rebuttal.  If, you&#039;d have bothered to read my earlier posts you could have easily disseminated in your limited state of consciousness that I am pro Star Wars, or leaning that way. The difference between us is -- I don&#039;t blindly accept the propaganda of my country&#039;s free press (or, any country), but prefer standing guard over any representative politician whose political partisanship may lead my nation into the abyss.

&quot;Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.&quot; - Carl Schurz (1829-1906).

Now with that (and YOU) said, I regret having returned to view postings, as this subject is pretty much spent and in the wrong forum to begin with.

And one last thing Mr. Retiree, my years has qualified me to claim that title, as well, only I don&#039;t gloat over having reached the mark, as there is much left yet to do and accomplish.

Don&#039;t bother to reply, as I shall (unlike) Gen. MacArthur not return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will:<br />
Firstly, you need to get a grip.  Secondly, I am as much an American as you, and I can assure you equally (if not more) patriotic. The difference &#034;IS&#034; that you obviously are NOT very well informed (probably, too much CNN) and likely not too well read based on the style of your writing.</p>
<p>Finally, the only reason that I threw politics into the bray was to give example to the person who&#039;s handle (NASG) whom asked the question &#034;why&#034; a defense system, such as, SW was needed, or would be deployed? My answer was an attempt to educate him, as to &#034;how&#034; such decisions are massaged by the &#034;liberal media&#039;s elite&#034; to sway the opinions of the public. Yes, I know&#8230; the methods are universal. Youâ€™re suggesting that maybe I may prefer another political system, such as, Russia, Iranian, Sudanese&#8230; or&#8230; or&#8230; or, isn&#039;t worthy of rebuttal.  If, you&#039;d have bothered to read my earlier posts you could have easily disseminated in your limited state of consciousness that I am pro Star Wars, or leaning that way. The difference between us is &#8212; I don&#039;t blindly accept the propaganda of my country&#039;s free press (or, any country), but prefer standing guard over any representative politician whose political partisanship may lead my nation into the abyss.</p>
<p>&#034;Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.&#034; &#8211; Carl Schurz (1829-1906).</p>
<p>Now with that (and YOU) said, I regret having returned to view postings, as this subject is pretty much spent and in the wrong forum to begin with.</p>
<p>And one last thing Mr. Retiree, my years has qualified me to claim that title, as well, only I don&#039;t gloat over having reached the mark, as there is much left yet to do and accomplish.</p>
<p>Don&#039;t bother to reply, as I shall (unlike) Gen. MacArthur not return.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just took a look again.
Rev., 
For shame...your re-entry (pardon the pun) in this discussion seems to be a bit hypocritical don&#039;t you agree?  And what does this topic have to do with the American presidential election process? But, as long as you brought it up; hey our system ain&#039;t always pretty but it&#039;s still young (200 years is a blink of an eye) and still going.  Maybe you would prefer the Russian or Chinese or Iranian or Sudanese or...or...or...or... system of politics.
And hey,  our &quot;focus&quot; on issues shift all the time (and yes, the media plays a part in what wheel gets the grease) but, Americans are certainly not myopic; we still regard the war on terror and the environment and our health care etc. etc. as high on our priority lists.  Right now the &quot;main&quot; focus is on the economy and it&#039;s not just the American economy but the global economy, but that doesn&#039;t mean the urgency to bring home the troops has diminished. I&#039;m retired and now I&#039;m a bit worried that my retirement fund may not remain solvent and that didn&#039;t cross my mind at the beginning of the primaries.
Oh, I can&#039;t recall the last time the American government censored our media or shut down our internet access... can you?  btw, we do have access to other than the syndicated news outlets.  
If &quot;all&quot; in the world had uncensored access to the internet, then &quot;all&quot; in the world could think and make decisions for themselves and maybe come to appreciate and understand and respect the diversity of &quot;all&quot; others in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just took a look again.<br />
Rev.,<br />
For shame&#8230;your re-entry (pardon the pun) in this discussion seems to be a bit hypocritical don&#039;t you agree?  And what does this topic have to do with the American presidential election process? But, as long as you brought it up; hey our system ain&#039;t always pretty but it&#039;s still young (200 years is a blink of an eye) and still going.  Maybe you would prefer the Russian or Chinese or Iranian or Sudanese or&#8230;or&#8230;or&#8230;or&#8230; system of politics.<br />
And hey,  our &#034;focus&#034; on issues shift all the time (and yes, the media plays a part in what wheel gets the grease) but, Americans are certainly not myopic; we still regard the war on terror and the environment and our health care etc. etc. as high on our priority lists.  Right now the &#034;main&#034; focus is on the economy and it&#039;s not just the American economy but the global economy, but that doesn&#039;t mean the urgency to bring home the troops has diminished. I&#039;m retired and now I&#039;m a bit worried that my retirement fund may not remain solvent and that didn&#039;t cross my mind at the beginning of the primaries.<br />
Oh, I can&#039;t recall the last time the American government censored our media or shut down our internet access&#8230; can you?  btw, we do have access to other than the syndicated news outlets.<br />
If &#034;all&#034; in the world had uncensored access to the internet, then &#034;all&#034; in the world could think and make decisions for themselves and maybe come to appreciate and understand and respect the diversity of &#034;all&#034; others in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Not as smart guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not as smart guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rev. I enjoy reading your comments. I may email you some time to find out about Sweden. It sounds like a fun place. I&#039;m still in USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rev. I enjoy reading your comments. I may email you some time to find out about Sweden. It sounds like a fun place. I&#039;m still in USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youâ€™re NOT a dumb guy either!  And you ask the right question - Why, do we need SW? But what determines consent of the people in order to transfer power to the elite is NOT a vote of free choice determined by what is best for the country, but votes that are driven by â€“ FEAR!

The agenda can be changed depending on the issues. Take for instance what is currently happening with US primary voting since it began in Iowa. Prior to Iowa the focus was on the Middle East conflict and everyone was touting Rudy Guillani, as the GOP candidate. And he knew his personal history would not play well in the initial primaries, and he&#039;s right.  So, he opened and then failed in Florida (quickly gone). He was strong on security and under threat (&quot;fear&quot;) had the focus stayed he would be the guy to beat. But, as you&#039;ve probably noticed ALL talk of war and threats have (even from Ahmadinejad of Iran) gone silent. And as expected the incumbent President leaving office is expected to (and did) go mum.  The shift was away from fear and war and leveled on the economy.  Don&#039;t you think it strange - &quot;a shift&quot; - of attention happened, like, opps we&#039;ve got economic problems. Economics just doesnâ€™t work that way, problem has been there for sometime, but timing by the political-media had already decided &quot;when&quot; the shift would take place.

The shift next time could be back on war and the economy, and other issues. Certainly, Barack Obama, will accept the VP position on Hillaryâ€™s ticket, unless, Hillary is confronted by a REAL threat from Obama, and a possibility of losing the nominationâ€¦ then itâ€™s quite possible she could choose hubby &quot;Slick Willie&quot; as her running mate! I know your asking is that legal? The simple answer is &quot;Yes!&quot; He canâ€™t run for Prez, but he can accept the VP nomination, and could even become Prez, under constitutional succession should Hillary if elected were to depart the office for any reason.

Hereâ€™s something for you to consider. . .

The questions that should be asked are &quot;WHY&quot; and &quot;HOW&quot; has the liberal media in America come to be controlled? And &quot;WHO&quot; is behind their acquisitions? 

The Bush administration got elected on its conservative platform, by convincing the public that the Republican Party is feeding on conservative roots. As conservative parties go, the current administration doesn&#039;t resemble its party&#039;s past, confirmed by their budgets submitted to Congress they appear to be left of the most liberal of former Democratic distractions. 

The bottom line is that ALL of our Presidents are errand boys (liberal or conservative), no more than compromise figureheads with the unenviable job of simultaneously trying in some way to accommodate the brays of the &quot;Business-Merchant-Manufacturing&quot; class who generally tend to be nationalist and provincial, while kowtowing on pain of media death to the imperatives of the much more powerful, vastly more wealthy, and far more sophisticated â€œAnglo-American Aristocracy,â€? who of course are the &quot;internationalists.&quot; Anyone who blames them for their policies doesn&#039;t understand the job description. 

To add to the politicians&#039; problems, the American people are obviously divided into a majority of red-statersâ€™ whose &quot;common sense&quot; tells them that their interests are better represented by &quot;Main Street&quot; than by &quot;Wall Street&quot;, and a minority of blue-statersâ€™ who are well-educated, which all too often means that they blindly follow the dictates of their pre-programmed political correctness -- a mind-set tightly orchestrated by the best of the best (but sadly bought and paid for) media manipulators and Ivy League opinion makers. Hence, anyone who for whatever twisted reasons wants to be elected President, must appear to tow the red state party line to keep the grass roots from going to seed, while in fact &quot;secretly&quot; following the &quot;offer you can&#039;t refuse&quot; dictates of the aristocrats who own the media and who can destroy them on a whim. Does it seem odd that the power structures who put these poor fools into office also on occasion orchestrate their destruction? Not at all, as ONLY the master can wield the whip! 

Indeed it is a very tough balancing act for any Republicrat, whether your name is Bush or Clinton. 

Remember (if you will), that our country was founded by Whigs who represented the business classes; and, who were nationalist and protectionist. The elite Republican class interests are more in alignment with the people who earned their money through free enterprise than for those whose far huger fortunes come with a name and title. But money doesn&#039;t talk it swears, and so the &quot;Tories&quot; really never went away, but rather took the names of, and imbedded themselves in, the &quot;loyal&quot; parties. Clearly they&#039;ve gradually won the day, starting with Watergate, and are now consolidating their control over America. So let&#039;s not in any way confuse a free-trading, free-spending Tory from the Eastern Establishment like ANY Bush with the &quot;conservative&quot; movement of the nationalists, let alone with the mind-set of our Whig founding fathers. 

America&#039;s media has been bought and paid for by the elite, and over time has been converted to propagandize the advance of an agenda that was secretly founded in 1891, and further their quest for power and influence to be extended across the globe in fulfillment of their cause.

Enufâ€™ said. . . feel free to e-mail me at your convenience.

Curt B.
BallyZACA@msn.com 
An American ex-Patriot, living in Sweden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youâ€™re NOT a dumb guy either!  And you ask the right question &#8211; Why, do we need SW? But what determines consent of the people in order to transfer power to the elite is NOT a vote of free choice determined by what is best for the country, but votes that are driven by â€“ FEAR!</p>
<p>The agenda can be changed depending on the issues. Take for instance what is currently happening with US primary voting since it began in Iowa. Prior to Iowa the focus was on the Middle East conflict and everyone was touting Rudy Guillani, as the GOP candidate. And he knew his personal history would not play well in the initial primaries, and he&#039;s right.  So, he opened and then failed in Florida (quickly gone). He was strong on security and under threat (&#034;fear&#034;) had the focus stayed he would be the guy to beat. But, as you&#039;ve probably noticed ALL talk of war and threats have (even from Ahmadinejad of Iran) gone silent. And as expected the incumbent President leaving office is expected to (and did) go mum.  The shift was away from fear and war and leveled on the economy.  Don&#039;t you think it strange &#8211; &#034;a shift&#034; &#8211; of attention happened, like, opps we&#039;ve got economic problems. Economics just doesnâ€™t work that way, problem has been there for sometime, but timing by the political-media had already decided &#034;when&#034; the shift would take place.</p>
<p>The shift next time could be back on war and the economy, and other issues. Certainly, Barack Obama, will accept the VP position on Hillaryâ€™s ticket, unless, Hillary is confronted by a REAL threat from Obama, and a possibility of losing the nominationâ€¦ then itâ€™s quite possible she could choose hubby &#034;Slick Willie&#034; as her running mate! I know your asking is that legal? The simple answer is &#034;Yes!&#034; He canâ€™t run for Prez, but he can accept the VP nomination, and could even become Prez, under constitutional succession should Hillary if elected were to depart the office for any reason.</p>
<p>Hereâ€™s something for you to consider. . .</p>
<p>The questions that should be asked are &#034;WHY&#034; and &#034;HOW&#034; has the liberal media in America come to be controlled? And &#034;WHO&#034; is behind their acquisitions? </p>
<p>The Bush administration got elected on its conservative platform, by convincing the public that the Republican Party is feeding on conservative roots. As conservative parties go, the current administration doesn&#039;t resemble its party&#039;s past, confirmed by their budgets submitted to Congress they appear to be left of the most liberal of former Democratic distractions. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that ALL of our Presidents are errand boys (liberal or conservative), no more than compromise figureheads with the unenviable job of simultaneously trying in some way to accommodate the brays of the &#034;Business-Merchant-Manufacturing&#034; class who generally tend to be nationalist and provincial, while kowtowing on pain of media death to the imperatives of the much more powerful, vastly more wealthy, and far more sophisticated â€œAnglo-American Aristocracy,â€? who of course are the &#034;internationalists.&#034; Anyone who blames them for their policies doesn&#039;t understand the job description. </p>
<p>To add to the politicians&#039; problems, the American people are obviously divided into a majority of red-statersâ€™ whose &#034;common sense&#034; tells them that their interests are better represented by &#034;Main Street&#034; than by &#034;Wall Street&#034;, and a minority of blue-statersâ€™ who are well-educated, which all too often means that they blindly follow the dictates of their pre-programmed political correctness &#8212; a mind-set tightly orchestrated by the best of the best (but sadly bought and paid for) media manipulators and Ivy League opinion makers. Hence, anyone who for whatever twisted reasons wants to be elected President, must appear to tow the red state party line to keep the grass roots from going to seed, while in fact &#034;secretly&#034; following the &#034;offer you can&#039;t refuse&#034; dictates of the aristocrats who own the media and who can destroy them on a whim. Does it seem odd that the power structures who put these poor fools into office also on occasion orchestrate their destruction? Not at all, as ONLY the master can wield the whip! </p>
<p>Indeed it is a very tough balancing act for any Republicrat, whether your name is Bush or Clinton. </p>
<p>Remember (if you will), that our country was founded by Whigs who represented the business classes; and, who were nationalist and protectionist. The elite Republican class interests are more in alignment with the people who earned their money through free enterprise than for those whose far huger fortunes come with a name and title. But money doesn&#039;t talk it swears, and so the &#034;Tories&#034; really never went away, but rather took the names of, and imbedded themselves in, the &#034;loyal&#034; parties. Clearly they&#039;ve gradually won the day, starting with Watergate, and are now consolidating their control over America. So let&#039;s not in any way confuse a free-trading, free-spending Tory from the Eastern Establishment like ANY Bush with the &#034;conservative&#034; movement of the nationalists, let alone with the mind-set of our Whig founding fathers. </p>
<p>America&#039;s media has been bought and paid for by the elite, and over time has been converted to propagandize the advance of an agenda that was secretly founded in 1891, and further their quest for power and influence to be extended across the globe in fulfillment of their cause.</p>
<p>Enufâ€™ said. . . feel free to e-mail me at your convenience.</p>
<p>Curt B.<br />
<a href="mailto:BallyZACA@msn.com">BallyZACA@msn.com</a><br />
An American ex-Patriot, living in Sweden</p>
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		<title>By: Not as smart guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not as smart guy</dc:creator>
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		<description>I agree with &quot;Not as smart guy&quot;...oh wait that&#039;s me. I keep forgetting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with &#034;Not as smart guy&#034;&#8230;oh wait that&#039;s me. I keep forgetting.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Not as smart guy</dc:creator>
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		<description>OK, Rev, I don&#039;t question your high intelligence and sanity, but can you explain why &quot;Star Wars&#039; is the right way to go? It seems to me it could easily be fooled by decoys even if it were 100% accurate--and a colossal waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Rev, I don&#039;t question your high intelligence and sanity, but can you explain why &#034;Star Wars&#039; is the right way to go? It seems to me it could easily be fooled by decoys even if it were 100% accurate&#8211;and a colossal waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, having already put my .02 cents worth into this discussion... and was content not to continue participation... but, have decided to raise my ante to .03 cents because sociology has been added to the politics of the issue.  

So, here goes... pay attention. . .

I would put forward a LAW of social and political relationships, namely, that three factors cannot coexist: (1) a marked disparity of power; (2) private access to the instruments of power; and (3) equality of groups or nations.  Where one group is strong enough to push another around and stand to gain by it, it will do so.  Even if the state would abstain from aggression, companies and individuals will not wait for permission.  Rather, they will act in their own interests, dragging others along, including the state.

Therefore, consider (if you will) the USA isn&#039;t the &quot;big push&quot; behind deployment of &quot;Star Wars,&quot; but instead the corporate and military industrial complexes of both Europe and the USA who stand to benefit financially.  And the real benefits of a shield isn&#039;t going to be the North American continent (distance and time - launch to strike), but instead Western Europe; and, providing the added security for those newly accepted EU member states of Eastern Europe, who would look favorably on a shield to protect them from what they fear most (and with good reason) -- RUSSIA.

Finally, everyone seems to misunderstand the structure of the USAâ€™s foreign policy, including most Americans, so you Europeans are not faulted, but, perhaps I can shed some light on the subject to help tone down the â€œeasy to hate America rhetoricâ€? that is finally being toned-down (thankfully) to a change in French-German political leadership.  Having said that, please consider â€œwhoâ€? creates and structures the foreign policy of the USA?  Your right â€œifâ€? you answered the â€œCommittee on Foreign Relations!â€?  But, did you know the CFRâ€™s membership is made up by 80% Anglophiles?  So, consider â€œwhoâ€? is really behind driving a policy, such as, Star Warsâ€¦ and you might find the answer rests in London not in Washington, D.C. (â€œjolly goodâ€?). 

There, I&#039;m now done... will not raise the ante to .04 cents.  Promise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, having already put my .02 cents worth into this discussion&#8230; and was content not to continue participation&#8230; but, have decided to raise my ante to .03 cents because sociology has been added to the politics of the issue.  </p>
<p>So, here goes&#8230; pay attention. . .</p>
<p>I would put forward a LAW of social and political relationships, namely, that three factors cannot coexist: (1) a marked disparity of power; (2) private access to the instruments of power; and (3) equality of groups or nations.  Where one group is strong enough to push another around and stand to gain by it, it will do so.  Even if the state would abstain from aggression, companies and individuals will not wait for permission.  Rather, they will act in their own interests, dragging others along, including the state.</p>
<p>Therefore, consider (if you will) the USA isn&#039;t the &#034;big push&#034; behind deployment of &#034;Star Wars,&#034; but instead the corporate and military industrial complexes of both Europe and the USA who stand to benefit financially.  And the real benefits of a shield isn&#039;t going to be the North American continent (distance and time &#8211; launch to strike), but instead Western Europe; and, providing the added security for those newly accepted EU member states of Eastern Europe, who would look favorably on a shield to protect them from what they fear most (and with good reason) &#8212; RUSSIA.</p>
<p>Finally, everyone seems to misunderstand the structure of the USAâ€™s foreign policy, including most Americans, so you Europeans are not faulted, but, perhaps I can shed some light on the subject to help tone down the â€œeasy to hate America rhetoricâ€? that is finally being toned-down (thankfully) to a change in French-German political leadership.  Having said that, please consider â€œwhoâ€? creates and structures the foreign policy of the USA?  Your right â€œifâ€? you answered the â€œCommittee on Foreign Relations!â€?  But, did you know the CFRâ€™s membership is made up by 80% Anglophiles?  So, consider â€œwhoâ€? is really behind driving a policy, such as, Star Warsâ€¦ and you might find the answer rests in London not in Washington, D.C. (â€œjolly goodâ€?). </p>
<p>There, I&#039;m now done&#8230; will not raise the ante to .04 cents.  Promise!</p>
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		<title>By: pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are definitely right about a lack of skills (I would say inadequate behavior of individuals and groups, or perhaps even better term - attitude) required for democracy. 
The tendency to go back to absolute rule is a fear of new, rationalized as a  &quot;need for someone to put things back in order&quot;, very understandable reaction and very much &quot;wired&quot; into human psyche . The emotional recovery from upheavals and ability to look at the new situation as an opportunity for the better are always taking a long time...   and this process is usually hampered by the presence of rogue elements of the society ( mafia, corruption, general uncertainty etc). Putin (as many others everywhere else)  is just (successfully for now)  using this for his own benefit.  Humans are very complicated animals.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are definitely right about a lack of skills (I would say inadequate behavior of individuals and groups, or perhaps even better term &#8211; attitude) required for democracy.<br />
The tendency to go back to absolute rule is a fear of new, rationalized as a  &#034;need for someone to put things back in order&#034;, very understandable reaction and very much &#034;wired&#034; into human psyche . The emotional recovery from upheavals and ability to look at the new situation as an opportunity for the better are always taking a long time&#8230;   and this process is usually hampered by the presence of rogue elements of the society ( mafia, corruption, general uncertainty etc). Putin (as many others everywhere else)  is just (successfully for now)  using this for his own benefit.  Humans are very complicated animals&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Clavius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clavius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro,

Granted my example was simple.

My point was totalitarian government does not breed the skills that lead to a democracy.  It makes it more difficult as there is a tendency to return to absolute rule.  Look at Putin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro,</p>
<p>Granted my example was simple.</p>
<p>My point was totalitarian government does not breed the skills that lead to a democracy.  It makes it more difficult as there is a tendency to return to absolute rule.  Look at Putin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clavius, 
Hmmm in case of Former Yu, you are grossly simplifying things.... 
The problem there really started long after Tito&#039;s death, with &quot;Reaganomics&quot; - interest rates rise, which brought economy of the country to its knees... then someone has to be blamed for this and it turned out that multi-national society is a good and fertile ground for the blame game... so many &quot;them others&quot; there.... the rest is a history.... but this does not include democracy, they are still very far from that ideal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clavius,<br />
Hmmm in case of Former Yu, you are grossly simplifying things&#8230;.<br />
The problem there really started long after Tito&#039;s death, with &#034;Reaganomics&#034; &#8211; interest rates rise, which brought economy of the country to its knees&#8230; then someone has to be blamed for this and it turned out that multi-national society is a good and fertile ground for the blame game&#8230; so many &#034;them others&#034; there&#8230;. the rest is a history&#8230;. but this does not include democracy, they are still very far from that ideal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello people...these are conventional missles not nukes that are used to intercept nuclear missiles. This is nothing like the Cuban missile crisis. In that case nuclear weapons were being set up in Cuba and aimed at the US. This is not the case in Poland or The Czech republic. The missles that would be intalled there are not nuclear, but I am sure the Russians are worried that they could be.

I wouldn&#039;t put it the past the US to try it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello people&#8230;these are conventional missles not nukes that are used to intercept nuclear missiles. This is nothing like the Cuban missile crisis. In that case nuclear weapons were being set up in Cuba and aimed at the US. This is not the case in Poland or The Czech republic. The missles that would be intalled there are not nuclear, but I am sure the Russians are worried that they could be.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#039;t put it the past the US to try it either.</p>
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		<title>By: Radic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radic</dc:creator>
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		<description>@Skylark
Don&#039;t try the straw man argument, please. Both Nazis and Soviets were bad guys. Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was in effect for like 2 years during which both armies brought genocide and destruction. Communist regime full of crime for decades after.
Not along with - from opposite directions. Doesn&#039;t change anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Skylark<br />
Don&#039;t try the straw man argument, please. Both Nazis and Soviets were bad guys. Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was in effect for like 2 years during which both armies brought genocide and destruction. Communist regime full of crime for decades after.<br />
Not along with &#8211; from opposite directions. Doesn&#039;t change anything.</p>
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		<title>By: skylark</title>
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		<dc:creator>skylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radic:
        Not so fast.  Germany invaded Poland first.  Russia did not invade &quot;along with Germany,&quot; as you state.  Even big bad Stalin knew (from his pre-1939 speeches) that the Nazis were coming.   In any case.  Poland was left hanging.  
Your &quot;Soviets were the bad guys&quot; is disturbing insofar as it  infers that the Nazis were the good guys....  Wow!  Those must be fancy (revisionist) history books you&#039;re reading....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radic:<br />
        Not so fast.  Germany invaded Poland first.  Russia did not invade &#034;along with Germany,&#034; as you state.  Even big bad Stalin knew (from his pre-1939 speeches) that the Nazis were coming.   In any case.  Poland was left hanging.<br />
Your &#034;Soviets were the bad guys&#034; is disturbing insofar as it  infers that the Nazis were the good guys&#8230;.  Wow!  Those must be fancy (revisionist) history books you&#039;re reading&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Radic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radic</dc:creator>
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		<description>@Skylark
Soviets invaded Poland along with Germany, only like 2 years later Germany betrayed Russia and invaded their territory. Soviets were bad guys in that war so I don&#039;t really feel too much for them.

As for the analogy, it&#039;s not exactly accurate since we border mainly Belarus and Ukraine to the east. No, I wouldn&#039;t mind - we&#039;re both in NATO after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Skylark<br />
Soviets invaded Poland along with Germany, only like 2 years later Germany betrayed Russia and invaded their territory. Soviets were bad guys in that war so I don&#039;t really feel too much for them.</p>
<p>As for the analogy, it&#039;s not exactly accurate since we border mainly Belarus and Ukraine to the east. No, I wouldn&#039;t mind &#8211; we&#039;re both in NATO after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
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		<description>This just in....

TEHRAN, Iran - &quot;Iran launched a research rocket Monday and unveiled its first major space center, which will be used to launch research satellites, state-run television reported.&quot;

&quot;Some Western experts also have raised the possibility that Iran&#039;s space program may be a cover to more fully develop its military ballistic missiles, a prospect many find troubling at a time when the U.S. and others worry Tehran is trying to develop nuclear weapons.&quot;

 tick tick tick.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in&#8230;.</p>
<p>TEHRAN, Iran &#8211; &#034;Iran launched a research rocket Monday and unveiled its first major space center, which will be used to launch research satellites, state-run television reported.&#034;</p>
<p>&#034;Some Western experts also have raised the possibility that Iran&#039;s space program may be a cover to more fully develop its military ballistic missiles, a prospect many find troubling at a time when the U.S. and others worry Tehran is trying to develop nuclear weapons.&#034;</p>
<p> tick tick tick&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Not as smart as y'all</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not as smart as y'all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if the &quot;Star Wars&quot; were 100% accurate (which it is not), any nation that wanted to launch a nuclear missile would only need to use less expensive decoy missiles first. The Defense missiles would naturally be launched to intercept. When the aggressor knew the &quot;Star Wars&quot; arsenal was depleted, they would launch their Nuclear missile. Aren&#039;t the nuclear missiles we have a better deterrent? Why shouldn&#039;t they be more inclined to &quot;think twice&quot; about something they know works than something that can be easily fooled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the &#034;Star Wars&#034; were 100% accurate (which it is not), any nation that wanted to launch a nuclear missile would only need to use less expensive decoy missiles first. The Defense missiles would naturally be launched to intercept. When the aggressor knew the &#034;Star Wars&#034; arsenal was depleted, they would launch their Nuclear missile. Aren&#039;t the nuclear missiles we have a better deterrent? Why shouldn&#039;t they be more inclined to &#034;think twice&#034; about something they know works than something that can be easily fooled?</p>
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		<title>By: skylark</title>
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		<dc:creator>skylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radic:
     Maybe Russia is &quot;pissed&quot; because they lost around 35 million souls during WWII, when armies swept through Poland in a few weeks and into Russia.  Would you mind if Germany placed a missile defense system on the Polish border?  To protect itself from rogue Middle East states, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radic:<br />
     Maybe Russia is &#034;pissed&#034; because they lost around 35 million souls during WWII, when armies swept through Poland in a few weeks and into Russia.  Would you mind if Germany placed a missile defense system on the Polish border?  To protect itself from rogue Middle East states, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: X man</title>
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		<dc:creator>X man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sooner or later every country in the world will have nuclear capability.....whether you like it or not.

Recent addition includes india, pakistan, iran, n. korea.Nothing can revert the trend. Everyone wants to be in control.

A defend shield can at least deter some of this power mongrel to think twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sooner or later every country in the world will have nuclear capability&#8230;..whether you like it or not.</p>
<p>Recent addition includes india, pakistan, iran, n. korea.Nothing can revert the trend. Everyone wants to be in control.</p>
<p>A defend shield can at least deter some of this power mongrel to think twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Clavius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clavius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alastair,

&quot;I must admit that when I wrote my original comment I spoke inaccurately; I had in mind the period from the late 70s to the mid 80s. Nevertheless, that does not change the fact that there is some historical support for the Soviet claims that they were reacting to American aggression *throughout* the Cold War. Indeed, if it had not been for the American policy of &quot;containment&quot; of communism, which began under Truman in 1946, things might have been very different.&quot;

I apologize if I overreacted.  The association of the Cold War and Neocons set me off, since it is absurd. 

I would say if there wasn&#039;t a policy of containment, things would be very different.  The murdering communist regime of the Soviet Union might have survived, and continued to repress and kill those who would oppose its rule.  And Poland would not be free as it is today.

The Soviets pushed for hegemony as far as they could.  And it was only the resistance of the West that prevented it.  They were not reacting to challenges against them.  They were bent on world domination.  The combined will of the West prevented that (capital letter intended).

Note that few of the countries that were part of the Soviet Union are now effective democracies.  Association as a country does not flourish under totalitarian rule.  Look at Yugoslavia.  As soon as the power structure that Tito built fell apart, so did the country, violently.  Those countries fortunate to be part of the West after WWII had a chance to build democratic institutions.  Those in the Soviet Block only had totalitarian rule.  Poland stands apart because they never lost their national identity.  A counter example is Belarus that now struggles to have a valid election.

Reagan was right to call the Soviet Union an &quot;Evil Empire.&quot;  The defeat of communism in the Cold War was a great triumph for the entire world, as it freed millions and destroyed a totalitarian regime.

Based on your comments on Putin, I think we might agree in the end.  But the actions of the Soviet Union in the Cold War were theirs alone.  It is wrong to assign any blame to the West for making them feel paranoid.  As individuals and states, we are responsible for our own actions.</description>
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<p>&#034;I must admit that when I wrote my original comment I spoke inaccurately; I had in mind the period from the late 70s to the mid 80s. Nevertheless, that does not change the fact that there is some historical support for the Soviet claims that they were reacting to American aggression *throughout* the Cold War. Indeed, if it had not been for the American policy of &#034;containment&#034; of communism, which began under Truman in 1946, things might have been very different.&#034;</p>
<p>I apologize if I overreacted.  The association of the Cold War and Neocons set me off, since it is absurd. </p>
<p>I would say if there wasn&#039;t a policy of containment, things would be very different.  The murdering communist regime of the Soviet Union might have survived, and continued to repress and kill those who would oppose its rule.  And Poland would not be free as it is today.</p>
<p>The Soviets pushed for hegemony as far as they could.  And it was only the resistance of the West that prevented it.  They were not reacting to challenges against them.  They were bent on world domination.  The combined will of the West prevented that (capital letter intended).</p>
<p>Note that few of the countries that were part of the Soviet Union are now effective democracies.  Association as a country does not flourish under totalitarian rule.  Look at Yugoslavia.  As soon as the power structure that Tito built fell apart, so did the country, violently.  Those countries fortunate to be part of the West after WWII had a chance to build democratic institutions.  Those in the Soviet Block only had totalitarian rule.  Poland stands apart because they never lost their national identity.  A counter example is Belarus that now struggles to have a valid election.</p>
<p>Reagan was right to call the Soviet Union an &#034;Evil Empire.&#034;  The defeat of communism in the Cold War was a great triumph for the entire world, as it freed millions and destroyed a totalitarian regime.</p>
<p>Based on your comments on Putin, I think we might agree in the end.  But the actions of the Soviet Union in the Cold War were theirs alone.  It is wrong to assign any blame to the West for making them feel paranoid.  As individuals and states, we are responsible for our own actions.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Not as smart as y'all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Wars ain&#039;t a good deterrent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Wars ain&#039;t a good deterrent.</p>
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