Comments on: A Possible Answer to Flyby Anomalies

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:05:57 +0000

Anyone know where I can find spacecraft info including flyby data, altitude, apogee, speed, lattitude entrance, exit info on all suspect craft ?

By: robbb

robbb — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:35:18 +0000

jesus likes to ramp up the speed when he rides our hardware.

By: Tissa Perera

Tissa Perera — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:41:39 +0000

Let's first agree on my solution of the Pioneer
anomaly at cosmicdarkmatter.com

By: bdouds

bdouds — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:16:42 +0000

Any chance that the fact that the earth is not a perfect sphere and that its gravitational field isn't perfectly uniform would have enough of an effect?

By: OyÃ©ah

OyÃ©ah — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:59:14 +0000

Maybe the melting poles and glaciers, have succeeded in making the Earth incrementally more massive over the last 30 years, and this increase in mass, influences the energy that satellites can amass.

By: WeeWeeJumbo

WeeWeeJumbo — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:05:14 +0000

"January 21st, 2008 at 12:47 pm

bobi Says:
My goodness !! With all these experts above, its a wonder that we are still earth bound. With the 'expert opinions' expressed above, we should be travelling to the stars on our weekends."

I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm actually embarrassed reading these comments. "It's all so simple, why can't these egghead researchers, with their advanced degrees and long lists of accomplishments and discoveries, figure it out? I've got the answer pegged." Unbelievable!

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The Pioneer Effect | MetaFilter — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:44:08 +0000

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By: Zygos Community Links

Zygos Community Links — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:47:32 +0000

The Pioneer Effect…

NASA is baffled by unexplained discrepancies in the velocities of some of its spacecraft. Dubbed the Pioneer Effect, it has been observed before but has now been discovered in more probes. Many theories have been put forward, many disproved, and some a…

By: Janos Berta

Janos Berta — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:08:59 +0000

Do you know any details when the satellites gain this extra speed? During the approach to the planet or at the phase when the satellite go away from the planet?

By: Mike Millington

Mike Millington — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:02:01 +0000

I think it's a ripple in space/time where God's finger sliced through our dimension on an earlier date.

By: Ingrid Eckhoff

Ingrid Eckhoff — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:32:40 +0000

Logically, if you remove every possibility that isn't causing the effect, the remaining possibility(ies) however unlikely must be the answer. Is there something else orbiting around Earth that alters the gravitation just that much, perhaps operating at some unfamiliar wavelength, that we can't see and don't know is there?

Just a possibility.

By: BillG

BillG — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:48:39 +0000

I have a gut feeling that the "Pioneer anomaly" is a relativistic/time-dilation effect.

I have the same gut feeling with regard to galaxy movement and rotation. Scientists have invented mysterious"dark matter" and "dark energy" because they've had it beaten into their heads that relativistic effects are not important or detectable until an object reaches a speed approaching the speed of light. Not true.

Case in point: the atomic clocks aboard GPS satellites will run 38 microseconds faster in earth orbit than if they were sitting on earth, which is entirely measurable. In fact, your GPS unit in your car wouldn't work if relativity were not taken into account!! This relativistic effect must be taken into account for satellites moving at 17,000 MPH relative to us, so why would it NOT be important for space probes moving at 80,000 MPH (Pioneer 10) and 110,000 MPH (Pioneer 11) relative to us?!?!

Forget silly theories about dark matter, dark energy, and radiation that has a wavelength greater than the size of the universe, all of which have never been quantified and there's not a shred of evidence that they even exist. Albert Einstein had the answer 100 years ago, the scientists looking at the "Pioneer anomaly" just won't look at what's right in front of their face.

By: Paul

Paul — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:11:42 +0000

Frame-dragging might explain this anomaly – look up T-machines. T for Tipler

By: Straight Outta Star Trek « In Other Words

Straight Outta Star Trek « In Other Words — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:59:28 +0000

[...] Universe Today has a good layman's explanation. The Unruh effect, put simply, suggests that accelerating bodies experience a type of electromagnetic radiation. At very low acceleration, the wavelength emitted will be so large that a whole wavelength will be longer than the dimensions of the Universe (otherwise known as the Hubble Distance). Low acceleration would therefore generate waves that have no effect on the body. However, should the accelerating body (i.e. Galileo getting accelerated by Earth's gravity during the 1990 flyby) slowly exceed an acceleration threshold, the Unruh radiation will decrease in wavelength (smaller than the Hubble Distance), causing a tiny, but measurable "boost" to its increasing velocity. [...]

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By: Luke

Luke — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:06:22 +0000

Nobody like a smart arse, so I get along with most people but here goes.

Galileo had accelerated 3.9 mm/s.

Ten year mission error 1213.056 Km

Cassini 13 mm/s Ten year mission error 4043.52 Km

Huygens 0.11 mm/s Ten year mission error 34.2144 Km

Rosetta 2 mm/s Ten year mission error 622.08

I'm not keen on numbers.

Don't you just love me?

Luke

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:22:12 +0000

A Possible Answer to Flyby Anomalies…

Strange things are happening to our robotic space explorers. Also known as the "Pioneer effect" (the unexpected and sudden alterations to Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 trajectories measured as they continue their journey into the outer solar system), sim…

By: Dregnaw

Dregnaw — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:16:17 +0000

As the crafts flyby, are there frictional forces that could act like or produce a form of static electricity causing a minor form of repulsion? If so, then what would the friction be caused from? Atmospheric, probably not. Grafivity, or the electromagnetic field?

By: Radtech

Radtech — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:09:25 +0000

Perhaps the acceleration is due to gravitational attraction from otherwise undetectable massive objects__otherwise undetectable because the objects reside in a "neighboring" universe. Being as gravity is the only force that can pass between universes, such an explanation seems more reasonable than invoking less likely causes.

By: Jodeo

Jodeo — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:51:58 +0000

Look, space… it's a vacuum, so I'm sticking with the Oreck derivative of the Hoover principal.

IT'S A VACUUM. NOT SOME BLASTED 'DYSON SPHERE!!!'

By: Maytag

Maytag — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:43:35 +0000

Man, you people tossing out theories, like you know what you're talking about, are ridiculous. There are some pretty dumb one- sentence ideas, but you people writing paragraphs are even more off base. Stop spouting like you have a clue.

By: N Stone

N Stone — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:22:42 +0000

"Well if this is true then could it account for the acceleration seen in the expansion of the universe instead of or perhaps in addition to "dark matter"?" -Larry Webb

the expansion of space might affect acceleration/decceleration but since the whole universe is being affected then universal time would slow down/speed up
everything would slow down
same if the universe was collapsing.
I think dark matter is more of a type of gas or energy that is pushing on the edges of the universe; like helium filling up a balloon